One thing that you are doing now that has helped your game.
JoeyA
was curious as to what was the most important thing that has effected your
game in a positive way.
This year I am far more relaxed at the table than I have ever been and this
relaxation helps me to get into the zone faster and stay there longer. I
learned to relax from Dr. Gary Beale who is a sports psychologist that helps
athletes in many different sports.
I would like to hear from some of you and what you are doing differently
this year.
JoeyA
Bob Johnson
I don't mean slowing down my play overall, but rather the actual mechanics
of a shot. I get down on the shot slower, stay over it longer, and stay
down at least until the cue ball has made contact with the object ball, and
usually until the object ball has completed it's journey, hopefully to the
pocket.
For some reason, I've always had a problem coming up with and sticking with
a pre-shot routine. I still haven't found anything I'm truly comfortable
with. I do try to always stand behind the shot, however, before I move into
my stance. I guess that in itself is a pre-shot routine.
--
Bob Johnson, Denver/Thornton, Co.
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michael
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One big thing I have worked on this year is standing up when I realize I am
off line. I use to have the bad habit of trying to make adjustments after
I am down on a shot. This would seem to be an easy habit to break, but I
have had to keep reminding myself of this. The habit is not completely
broken, I still do it but not nearly as often.
michael
Ed Chauvin IV
Positive Mental Attitude.
I'm not sure if it's a result of recently realizing that I'm capable
of beating people who's skill level I would have considered godlike in
comparison to mine only a few years ago, or just having convinced
myself that I /should/ be capable of beating them. Nonetheless, I've
started winning more lately, and I think it's primarily do to PMA.
Ed Chauvin IV
--
DISCLAIMER : WARNING: RULE # 196 is X-rated in that to calculate L,
use X = [(C2/10)^2], and RULE # 193 which is NOT meant to be read by
kids, since RULE # 187 EXPLAINS homosexuality mathematically, using
modifier G @ 11.
"I always feel left out when someone *else* gets killfiled."
--Terry Austin
Billy Bob
And that is the "learn all you can" thing.
I learned how shots work from the Dr. Dave DVD and this made me understand
how to get the cue ball to go where I want. So I have had the knowledge of
what I needed to do and have been slowly trying to do these things. This
added knowledge has been blossoming lately. I am now starting to be able to
leave the cue ball exactly where I want many times and can avoid scratches
usually.
So learn all you can, then work on what you have learned for a couple of
years. Of course it helps to learn the *right* things.
Billy
JoeyA wrote:
> While there are many things that have helped our game over this past year, I
> was curious as to what was the most important thing that has effected your
> game in a positive way.
>
>
systems. Once you really get them down pat and ingrained to where
they're second nature and almost automatic...the miss percentage goes
waaaaaay down.
Great to see you posting again and a good guestion. I might not have
reflected back on the year if you hadn't.
....................................................Billy
Roger Orsulak
Funny that this popped up at this time. I just got an email from Dan White
where he said that improving his speed control has helped his game. My
reply to him was that I didn't play much in the last year, probably less
than 25 hours (25 is a stretch). I played more with Pat Hall in Wisconsin
this past year than anyone else, anywhere. As to the positive effects, when
I'm thinking about playing, I don't miss - ever. It's a pretty good
feeling.
But Joey, HOW on earth have you been able to RELAX!
Roger - wishing you health and happiness in the new year.
Jack Stein
Bob Johnson wrote:
> For some reason, I've always had a problem coming up with and sticking with
> a pre-shot routine. I still haven't found anything I'm truly comfortable
> with. I do try to always stand behind the shot, however, before I move into
> my stance. I guess that in itself is a pre-shot routine.
I think that is the most important part of the PSR.
--
Jack
http://jbstein.com
Smorgass Bored
or did you get a new computer setup? Happy Holidays to you and the
family.
What I'm doing to improve my game is taking a sabbatical.I haven't held
a cue or hit a ball in 10 months (since the drumming that Lou Fig gave
me at one-pocket).Perhaps,on March 1st I will start back with a renewed
interest in pool.In the meantime,good luck at the DCC.
Jack Stein
Ed Chauvin IV wrote:
> I'm not sure if it's a result of recently realizing that I'm capable
> of beating people who's skill level I would have considered godlike in
> comparison to mine only a few years ago, or just having convinced
> myself that I /should/ be capable of beating them. Nonetheless, I've
> started winning more lately, and I think it's primarily do to PMA.
I bet the PMA is due to the "shooting better" rather than the other way
around. A false PMA should not last too long unless you're dumb as a
rock.
Recognizing your skill level and accepting it is very difficult I think
until you start performing at a skill level acceptable to you, then a
PMA becomes natural. A PMA is something that should be acquired as your
game skills mature, not something you make up that magically improves
your skills.
--
Jack
http://jbstein.com
JoeyA
Hal ever makes it to Louisiana or I see him in a pool hall somewhere else in
the country or if I see him in the big pool hall in the sky, I will ask him
to show me the aiming system that Ralph Greenleaf used. Hope it is not the
latter. :-)
JoeyA
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JoeyA
Derby City Classic, I just thought I needed to "refresh" myself before
tackling the job of putting the multiple properties back together.
If you decide to want to make your life easier reading newsgroups, let me
know if you need some help with setting it up. The only piece of
information you/I need is the news server name from your Internet Service
Provider. Looking at the multiple newsgroups through Microsoft Outlook
newsreader is far superior to looking at the newsgroup through google.
Warm Regards,
JoeyA
JoeyA
"Smorgass Bored" <Smorga...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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JoeyA
own, I have just decided to compartmentalize the many tasks that need to be
done and leave them alone for the moment. I hope like the prophets of the
bible going into the desert to rejuvenate their lives, that I can leave this
jumbled world and enter the world of pool, immerse myself thoroughly and
then come back refreshed and be able to give the tasks of rebuilding the
effort it and my family deserves.
Warm Regards,
JoeyA
"Roger Orsulak" <normo...@cox.net> wrote in message
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JoeyA
regularly practice getting up from the shot to re-align yourself you will
start to pay more attention to your alignment before you get down on the
first try you will position your feet more correctly and you will find
yourself pocketing more balls and getting up less often.
Warm Regards,
JoeyA
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Smorgass Bored
getting on their tour (while moving to Florida and playing in local
tournaments,TK's tournaments and the Seminole Tour Tournaments). I'll
call you Joey "On Again" Aguzin,the Professional poolplayer.....
Smorgass Bored
Internet Explorer and Verizon DSL.I'm using google to access the ngs
and it's working out just fine.. imo My posts and other's replies
show up instantly,though I haven't really figured out how to trim,edit
or show the post that I'm replying to.I click on REPLY and the post
shows up,but when I type my reply and hit SEND,only my reply shows up.I
could probably learn more about using a/this computer if I devoted some
time to it,but I'm spending all my time playing poker and doing things
that I enjoy.
I hope that you DO get the opportunity to spend time with Hal Houle.I
enjoyed my time with Hal and what he was able to show me in a couple of
hours.He's a wealth of knowledge and will be be sorely missed....
someday
tdodge
One that hasn't come up yet..
watch the player instead of the balls.
much to be learned that way, from the pros on TV,
on down. Sometimes, I pick up on what not to do.
Ed McCune
1. I started really stroking the cue, especially in practice strokes.
This loosened my arm up and relaxed me in pressure situations. An A
player friend nagged me until I did what he said. I had thought I was
stroking but he assured me I was poking.
2. On the same friends advice I stopped whole ball aiming. That is I
used to use the eclipse method. I aimed the whole cue ball at the whole
object ball. He got me aiming a particular part of the cue(edge or
center) at a particular spot on the object ball. As he says if you pick
out the right spot and stroke straight through it you can't miss. Did
wonders for my confidence and pressure shooting too, especially when
combined with #1.
3. Now I know this one is going to ruffle a few feathers, but I took
bits and pieces from many posters and developed my own aiming system
that allows me to consistently find and visualize the above #2 aiming
point. It's a bit of Hal Houle and a little Fred Agnir and a lot of my
own. I suspect (I tried to teach it to a friend and it didn't work) that
it only works for me and my peculiar way of visualizing the table so I
won't try to describe it.
Ed
Ed Chauvin IV
That makes sense, and is actually encouraging. I feel like the last
year or so I've been struggling to perform to my skill level. I just
know I'd been capable of doing better, and lately I actually have been
doing better.
It does seem that I'm rounding a corner in the last month or so. I
can't really say what aspect of my game has improved, there isn't
really a particular type of shot that I've been having trouble with,
I'm just making more balls and getting out more.
I will say this, if there were one aspect of my game I could improve
(and I am going to start working on it RSN), it would definitely be
developing my key ball. I mostly play 8-ball (3 leagues this past
year) on bar tables, and I've noticed that lately I can almost always
get down to the last ball of my set, but I don't always have a shot at
it and the 8.
Example:
Thursday night was the first round of our local APA playoffs. We won
the first 2, lost the next 2 and I had to play the final match to win
the night. My opponent was a strong 3 and I'm a solid 4.
Our match came down hill-hill with me breaking, I made a stripe and
saw the runout. It was just laying there, waiting for me to shoot it.
So I focused up, and got started. Everything was going according to
plan until I had 3 balls left and I was ever so slightly out of line.
The table looked something like this:
START(
%AN0Q5%BJ4G3%Cr0V1%D]5D8%En5Q1%Fh0S2%Gm0J3%HM8O3%Jd4X9%MK0M7
%OS6W9%PL6G1
)END
I don't recall the exact position of his balls, but they're not that
important, except for the 1, which I bumped directly into line with
the 15 when I made the 13 to leave this:
START(
%AO2X4%BJ4G3%Cr0V1%D]5D8%En5Q1%Fh0S2%Gm0J3%HM9P7%Jd4X9%OS6W9
%PQ9J1
)END
From there, the only thing I could come up with (didn't want to blow
my only timeout when I wasn't in any real trouble) was to hang the 10
in the top corner and wait for my next shot. I figured he'd clear
most of his balls out of my way and I'd be able to get out.
Unfortunately I made the 10 and had to bump the 15 around the one to
block the bottom corner pocket. Which was successful.
Eight or ten innings of putting the 15 around later, I finally get a
clear shot and have a weird bank on the 8 that I missed without
selling out. While this is going on, their entire team and all their
fans are 2 feet behind me at the bar screaming at the top of their
lungs "HOLD HANDS!" while I'm shooting. Unfortunately for them, this
only made me tighten up my already acute mental focus that much more
and after the first time I had to shoot with that going on I almost
didn't even hear them.
When he finally left me straight in on the 8 and they're pulling those
shenanigans again, I so desperately wanted to stand up and point out
that he'd broken his stick down and thereby forfeited, but it was a
great deal more satisfying to win the game outright and prove that we
were the better team in more than just mere shooting ability.
Now, if I'd been able to develop that key ball a bit better, none of
that would have happened. It would merely have been an easy break and
run.
Bob Johnson
regular MS Outlook. If you need, I can send you instructions on setting up
RSB in OE Express. It may not be the best newsreader on the market, but
it's free, and really does work quite well. Much better than using Google
in Internet Explorer. The filters work pretty good also, which
unfortunately has become a necessary feature with any Usenet newsgroup, not
just RSB.
--
Bob Johnson, Denver/Thornton, Co.
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Smorgass Bored
simply SKIP/IGNORE unwanted posts while reading all about pool 'stuff'
to improve my game for my impending 'comeback'....
Right now,I'm mastering the art of opening and closing the 'top' on my
laptop (btw, does anyone actually PUT a laptop on their lap?)..... I
may still take you (and others) up on their offer of computer help in
the future....thanks to ALL
Patrick Johnson
> While there are many things that have helped our game over this past year, I
> was curious as to what was the most important thing that has effected your
> game in a positive way.
Using my shaft more effectively as an aiming tool. I've always been a
'point-to-point' aimer (aligning the CB and OB contact points), and have
always been aware of aligning my shaft and stoke with that shot line.
Over time I've refined that alignment so that I visualize my shaft
extending all the way to the object ball and my tip aimed purposely at a
specific point on the 'ghost ball' (although I don't actually visualize
a ghost ball, just the OB contact point and the tip's alignment in
relation to it).
I think having specific reference points in each 'shot picture' (the tip
and the OB contact point) helps to build a 'library' of mental shot
pictures that are more accurate and more easily recalled. This helps
with aiming accuracy and consistency, but also with stroke accuracy
(keeping the tip on a specific target during followthrough). The 'easy
recall' feature has been a big help lately as I've been playing only
about once a month. It takes far less time to get up to speed than it
used to.
By the way, I think this is just another variation on what everybody
does when they aim - there are no actual physical things we can align by
sight accurately enough to make all shots, so we find our own ways of
developing 'shot alignment pictures' that we can recall to tell us when
we've got things right for each cut angle. Some of us do this 'picture
memorization and recall' entirely unconsciously - I suppose they're what
we think of as 'by feel' aimers. Others, like me, try to learn what's
going on and refine that process to make it more effective and reliable.
My method of using the tip and OB contact point as alignment reference
points is similar in principle to other 'shaft aiming' systems and even
to the 'ball fractions' system touted by Hal Houle (and other systems
too, like 'double overlap', etc.). In other words, all of these systems
are ways to memorize aiming alignments using visual alignments of actual
physical features on the stick, CB and/or OB as references. In fact, I
believe the same thing goes on unconsciously for 'by feel' players,
although they may use the whole picture rather than particular physical
features.
Is it better to do these things more consciously? It is for me, but not
necessarily for everybody. For many, all this 'picture memory and
recall' stuff is best done on total autopilot. For others, a system
like 'ball fractions' is a good compromise - identifying multiple
reference points but relying on the player's subconscious ability to use
them for most shots. I think players who try to be as conscious of the
details of this stuff as I am are probably in the minority - it can be
more of a distraction than a help to many.
Pat Johnson
Chicago
Pat Hall
have softened my stroke a bunch. Right now it is working for me but I
imagine I'll be back to the 19 oz down the road
PatH
JoeyA
Moving to Florida would be like jumping from the frying pan into the fire.
On the other hand I could be close to too nice guys, Bill and Doug. I guess
that would definitely be the fire. Seriously, I haven't given much thought
to anything these last four months. I just kind of wake up each morning and
it is like I am in stroke with the day to do the necessities of life and
that's all I can do. I go through the motions without much thinking or
planning and accomplish very little. I know that will change after I have a
chance to immerse myself in pooldom for a week. A new roof on the house and
apartment will get me going too but I will wait until I am rejuvenated
before beginning the task or renovating.
JoeyA
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Bob Johnson
tsunamis, our tornadoes are more quantity than quality, (i.e.., glorified
dust devils), the earthquakes are very infrequent and barely register even
though they measure them in Boulder, the snow storms are actually few and
far between down here on the prairie, (Denver is semi-arid), we have great
scenery, I don't recall our last shark attack, (unless you count the last
year the Camel Tour stopped here), and hell, I'm here!
--
Bob Johnson, Denver/Thornton, Co.
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Bob Johnson
says it's 60 degrees. I've ridden the bikes every day since about mid
December, and I'm getting ready to go again!
"Get your motor runnin',
Head out on the highway,
Lookin' for adventure, and ...."
Oh, Whatever
--
Bob Johnson, Denver/Thornton, Co.
bo...@cris.com
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Ratchet
> While there are many who discount Hal Houle's aiming systems, I do not. If
> Hal ever makes it to Louisiana or I see him in a pool hall somewhere else in
> the country or if I see him in the big pool hall in the sky, I will ask him
> to show me the aiming system that Ralph Greenleaf used. Hope it is not the
> latter. :-)
> JoeyA
>
Hal is a real decent guy IMO ,He just wants to disseminate what he knows
before his time is up , I always benefit from my conversations with him
over the phone. I know that my chances of meeting up with him in Ohio
are practically nil but I continue to hope to one day meet up w/ him IRL
and have him teach me in person....
Ratchet-
Bob Johnson
he's wonderful company to spend an evening in a pool room with! I had the
pleasure of sharing a couple of evenings with he and John Barton. Both fun
and educational.
--
Bob Johnson, Denver/Thornton, Co.
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Ratchet
> Smorg, I think Joey meant to tell you to try Outlook Express rather than
> regular MS Outlook. If you need, I can send you instructions on setting up
> RSB in OE Express. It may not be the best newsreader on the market, but
> it's free, and really does work quite well. Much better than using Google
> in Internet Explorer. The filters work pretty good also, which
> unfortunately has become a necessary feature with any Usenet newsgroup, not
> just RSB.
>
Download Netscape 7.2 it has an excellent News reader as well as an
awesomely easy filtering program... You can download it here
Ratchet = there are a few others here besides myself that use this and
highly recommend it
JoeyA
not moving back.
JoeyA
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Bob Johnson
to the cooler, drier air, but it really is very nice out here. Even though
the Springs is only around 75 miles South of us, they seem to get a little
more rain. It's a nice town, with a lot of military and government people
and a very pretty setting. They have a pretty active pool scene down there
also, probably more active than the Denver metro. Some pretty decent
players hang around down there.
--
Bob Johnson, Denver/Thornton, Co.
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John Black
> While there are many things that have helped our game over this past year, I
> was curious as to what was the most important thing that has effected your
> game in a positive way.
>
> This year I am far more relaxed at the table than I have ever been and this
> relaxation helps me to get into the zone faster and stay there longer. I
> learned to relax from Dr. Gary Beale who is a sports psychologist that helps
> athletes in many different sports.
>
> I would like to hear from some of you and what you are doing differently
> this year.
> JoeyA
I switched to an aiming method where I "visualize" the back of the
cueball hitting the contact point on the object ball. Now, of course I
can't see the back of the ball but in my mind's eye, I can visualize the
circle that makes up the equator of the ball all the way around and I
line up the contact point on the OB with the point on the back of the
cue ball where the CB will strike that contact point. I picture a line
from point to point that is the aim line. This is a big difference from
how I have aimed in the past which typically used points on the front of
the cueball.
A friend noticed I have been shooting better and asked me if I was doing
anything different and I explained about visualizing a point on the back
of the ball. I don't think he thought the idea had merit...
John Black
John Black
patrick.jo...@THIScomcast.net says...
> Using my shaft more effectively as an aiming tool. I've always been a
> 'point-to-point' aimer (aligning the CB and OB contact points), and have
> always been aware of aligning my shaft and stoke with that shot line.
I used to aim with the edges of the stick. Everyone knows that you
can't aim the center of the cueball at the OB contact point (except for
sraight in shots) because the roundness of the cueball will cause the
shot to undercut. But its amazing how much you can compensate for this
flaw by aiming the inner side of the stick at the contact point on the
OB instead of aiming the center of the stick at the contact point. Its
pretty accurate but only works for cuts between about 15 and 45 degrees.
For almost straight shots you can use the center to contact point line.
For cuts thinner than 45 degrees you just have to use another method.
John Black
hatorih...@yahoo.com
Billy
Patrick Johnson wrote:
> JoeyA wrote:
> > While there are many things that have helped our game over this past year, I
> > was curious as to what was the most important thing that has effected your
> > game in a positive way.
Pat Johnson then sez:
> Using my shaft more effectively as an aiming tool.
> Over time I've refined that alignment so that I visualize my shaft
> extending all the way to the object ball and my tip aimed purposely at a
> specific point on the 'ghost ball' (although I don't actually visualize
> a ghost ball, just the OB contact point and the tip's alignment in
> relation to it).
Billy sez:
This post eluded me over the last few days and I about spilled coffee
all over reading it.
Let me get this straight...1. You've been playing this game for over a
decade now...2. You were teaching pool to some University students on a
regular basis 3. You've pawned yourself off as the RSB head guru on
pool for almost 10 years.... 4. You've discredited and humiliated
anybody and everybody if it didn't coincide with the physics and
geometry out of some book or yours and Ron Shepard's head that's tried
posting things about pool on this forum that actually knows how to
play..... 5. And the entire time you've been a nit when it comes to
gambling and a total hack at playing....And you've JUST FIGURED OUT
that you can use your CUE to aim all the way to the OB??? WTF....THAT
is soooo rudimentary that it's ridiculous!!! But on top of that you
STILL have it wrong and you'll remain a damn hack by aiming your cue
into outer space somewhere!! I sure as hell hope that NO ONE listens
to this bullshit and tries it!!
>
> I think having specific reference points in each 'shot picture' (the tip
> and the OB contact point) helps to build a 'library' of mental shot
> pictures that are more accurate and more easily recalled. This helps
> with aiming accuracy and consistency, but also with stroke accuracy
> (keeping the tip on a specific target during followthrough).
Now there's a lot of validity and decent information in the above
statement.
> By the way, I think this is just another variation on what everybody
> does when they aim - there are no actual physical things we can align by
> sight accurately enough to make all shots, so we find our own ways of
> developing 'shot alignment pictures' that we can recall to tell us when
> we've got things right for each cut angle.
Well, in YOUR mind it has to be YOUR OWN WAY or there's NO WAY. If YOU
can't figure it out on your own...it's invalid and doesn't work.
However, there are a whole bunch of people that have thoroughly and
succinctly discussed aiming to the nth degree that have it down pat for
different situations and all you had to do is open your ears and shut
your goddamn mouth for a change instead of being a know-it-all final
word on how the game can or should be played. Hal Houle is one of them
who you have CONSTANTLY degraded and YOU aren't even in the same league
of knowledge or ability.
Some of us do this 'picture
> memorization and recall' entirely unconsciously - I suppose they're what
> we think of as 'by feel' aimers. Others, like me, try to learn what's
> going on and refine that process to make it more effective and reliable.
>
>
> My method of using the tip and OB contact point as alignment reference
> points is similar in principle to other 'shaft aiming' systems and even
> to the 'ball fractions' system touted by Hal Houle (and other systems
> too, like 'double overlap', etc.). In other words, all of these systems
> are ways to memorize aiming alignments using visual alignments of actual
> physical features on the stick, CB and/or OB as references.
That's a valid statement.
In fact, I
> believe the same thing goes on unconsciously for 'by feel' players,
> although they may use the whole picture rather than particular physical
> features.
>
>
I would have to say they're using the whole picture initially as part
of their setup routine and it IS very important...but they then get a
lot more finite in their visual alignment and really home in during the
stroking process before pulling the trigger. It either happens in a
millisecond or they aren't aware of what they're doing any longer
because it's so ingrained.
You can use Hal Houle's methods and still be totally unaware of what
you're doing after a while because it just becomes second nature.
> Is it better to do these things more consciously?
I'd have to say "yes" or "no" depending on how good you're shooting on
any given day. If you warm up and everything is going in without
thought and then you start playing that way, you don't change a damn
thing. If you're hitting the balls sloppy and missing...then you
consciously need a focal point to get you back on track or at least
through the day.
Patrick...you'd be a hell of a lot better off in your OWN game if YOU
learn to be a better student. Shut the fuck up and open your ears
instead! You'll become a better player and a better teacher with
understanding of how a "player" works his way around the table instead
of a damn know-it-all "geek".
.......................................Billy
Patrick Johnson
I think it does. It's the way I've always visualized shots - what I
call "point-to-point" aiming.
Pat Johnson
Chicago
Patrick Johnson
I don't use the sides of the shaft, but I think that's similar in
principle. The side of the shaft doesn't actually line up with the OB
contact point very often, but it is a precise physical reference that
you can see (even subconsciously) is a certain distance from the contact
point, which makes it easier to remember and recall accurately (again,
maybe even subconsciously).
I think many common aiming techniques are built on the same principle,
including Hal Houle's "three angles" stuff. I've discounted these
techniques in the past because players who use them didn't usually know
how they work and claimed to actually point their shaft edge (or
whatever) directly at the target, which I know isn't logically possible
escept for a small fraction of all shots. Since then I've come to
realize that it's a part of virtually any aiming technique whether the
player knows he's using it or not, and that being conscious of it isn't
required or even necessarily good for all players.
Pat Johnson
Chicago
Ed McCune
clearly a number of things that I believe and have been unable to
articulate. I don't aquire my aiming point in the way you do (i do on
some shots) but the way you describe the aiming process describes what I
do. With your permission I'd like to sent that post to a couple of
freinds who don't do groups.
Ed
hairreeha...@yahoo.com
8 hrs, only $300, I now play great.
www.fastlarrypool.com
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pj
chgo
Patrick Johnson
In case some don't yet know, this dishonest 'endorsement' is from FL
himself (better known around here as The Disease). He's one of RSB's
resident trolls. He and the other trolls live 'under the bridge',
meaning most of us have them filtered so their posts don't even show up
on our screens, and hardly anybody ever responds to them (so those who
have them filtered don't have to see their junk). Even talking about
them like this will probably cause a flurry of new identities to pop up.
Sorry about that - just filter them as they appear.
As they create new throwaway identities to get around our filters, we
just filter them again as they pop up. It only takes a second for each
new troll identity, and they're easy to recognize within a few words or
lines (or by the name alone). RSB is a peaceful and informative place
if you ignore/filter the trolls.
For example, in the last few days FL has posted under several alias
identities, including:
hairreeha...@yahoo.com
yoshiyor...@yahoo.com
sookeysek...@yahoo.com
bonzaibla...@yahoo.com
tommytam...@yahoo.com
arthurscho...@yahoo.com
hatorih...@yahoo.com
anthonyg...@yahoo.com
You can pretty much bet that any post endorsing FL's website is FL
himself. He often responds to one of his identities with another,
sometimes several in a row. If you're thinking "Man, what a nutcase!",
then you understand the situation.
Pat Johnson
Chicago
Ratchet
<PLONK>
talk about people responding to trolls ,Of all people ! lololol
Ratchet - tsk tsk tsk !lol ...j/k Pat
bonzaibla...@yahoo.com
REE PLONK YOU BACK, AH SO.
Superseal
"Ed McCune" <mcc...@telusplanetnospam.net> wrote in message
news:20Auf.29212$AP5.2572@edtnps84...
> I'd like to say Pat that I really enjoyed your previous post, You stated
> clearly a number of things that I believe and have been unable to
> articulate. I don't aquire my aiming point in the way you do (i do on some
> shots) but the way you describe the aiming process describes what I do.
> With your permission I'd like to sent that post to a couple of freinds
> who don't do groups.
>
> Ed
>
SWUCCK...the sound of Ed's lips being pried from the Pool Robot, Pat.
Johnson's ass.
Christ this makes me sick...go back to AzB.
And what the fuck is a *freind*? If you meant fiend(s) then I agree.
SS
kirikam...@yahoo.com
Superseal
<kirikam...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1136334730....@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> FL SAY ONLY BOTTOM FEEDING BOZOS AIM, PROS, DO NOT.
*THAT* (O wise-one) is because pool/billiards is a feel sport. Do you ever
think that you will Pat Johnson's smiley face on a Wheaties box or in a
Mueller ad? If we're lucky..maybe on the side of a milk carton.
SS :-(
Billy
And this is one time when FL is giving out bad information or YOU'RE
misinterpreting FL's message and somebody needs to rethink what
they're saying. Pro's ALWAYS AIM! Bottom feeding Bozos don't know
what they're doing when they aim or tell others properly. That's where
the big difference lies.
................................Billy
kirikam...@yahoo.com
so have no system, only bozo have and use system, ah so.
Billy
kirikam...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Fl say, pros use no aiming system, just see, imulate shot like golfer,
> so have no system, only bozo have and use system, ah so.
Jap need to go take English classes...he no understand what FL say or
what golf about.
Jap need to study Jack Nicklaus or Tiger Woods...not little Jap golfer
with small dick.
Jack and Tiger get behind ball...AIM down target line from ball to
hole...see line crystal clear in eye and mind. Pick out nudder AIMING
spot 15' from ball and 3' from ball on line to hole. (maybe leaf,
broken tee, goose shit, bird shit...Jack and Tiger like shit)
Jack and Tiger now take grip and stance alongside ball and AIM/ALIGN
feet-body-clubface to bird shit....look down line furder to goose
shit....look down line furder to flag.
Now waggle club back and forth (like stroking cue)...wiggle feet and
ass to stay on target line from aiming....cut silent fart so nobody
hear...look back and forth from clubface to bird shit to goose shit to
flag few more times to check AIM. MUST CHECK AIM!
Pull back club and smack living shit out of ball on AIM line. Ball hit
near hole and stop...make putt...walk to next tee and do again...same
way.
Same as Hari Kari pilot. See target....AIM nose of plane to
target...Gun mudderfucker as fast as it go....crash plane-self-and
target to blow up and everybody die. No can do dat if plane not AIMED
right.
Jap dumb ass like little dumb ass girl that run around here shooting
off mouth all time.
Jap get the fuck outta here...bring in FL. FL know golf...Jap don't
know shit. Jap go get chopsticks and eat sushi...drink saki...get
geisha...get rocks off. Jap stay out of aiming.
....................................Billy
SteveE
>...
> I'm thinking about playing, I don't miss - ever. It's a pretty good
> feeling.
>
LOL. Something Bill Incardona is always saying in his commentary on
Accu-stats tapes is that he has never missed a shot from the booth.
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Ed McCune
Superseal wrote:
Some stuff.
I read and appreciate posts from any source if they are good. I don't
read who posted what and then decide who is good. I'd even read your
posts in future if you ever have anything useful to say. Your elitist
attitude would go over better at AZ yourself. However, you are only
hurting yourself if you refuse to read a good post based on who posts it.
Ed
Alex Kanapilly
JoeyA wrote:
> While there are many things that have helped our game over this past year, I
> was curious as to what was the most important thing that has effected your
> game in a positive way.
>
> This year I am far more relaxed at the table than I have ever been and this
> relaxation helps me to get into the zone faster and stay there longer. I
> learned to relax from Dr. Gary Beale who is a sports psychologist that helps
> athletes in many different sports.
>
> I would like to hear from some of you and what you are doing differently
> this year.
> JoeyA
Sorry for getting to this so late but I've noticed that in the past
year or so I'm more comfortable with my own personal reality as a pool
player. Let me try to explain that, for most of the 17-18 years I've
played pool, I wanted to be the best I could possibly be and I was
dissapointed when my peers would seem to get ahead of me or people I
used to beat would somehow surpass me in ability. Now, I think I'm
finally over that. I'm OK with the fact that I play competitively 1 or
2 times a week and because of that my level of play varies greatly from
day to day. I'm not happy about it when I can't perform at my best but
I don't worry so much about it anymore. And I relish the times when the
real me shows up and I whoop up on someone that I have no business
beating most of the time. I'm actually proud of how well I play on
average for the amount of time I am able to play. I'm a part time pool
player trying to beat guys that play all the time (like I used to).
I'm also much more wise at the table than I used to be. It used to be
that when I'd get into a shoot out with some young hot shot, I'd try to
match him or out shoot him, even if I didn't quite have it that day.
I'm sure that cost me a lot of matchs. Now I can slow down and try to
move my way around him if I'm not "on". It doesn't always work but I
think I win more now that I ever did, even when I was able to play as
much as I wanted (over 10 years ago now).
When I'm in the bigger local tournaments, I'm by no means a favorite
but I know for a fact that the guys who are favorites don't necessarily
want to play me in the early rounds. They know that if the right Alex
shows up, they will have their hands full. I'm proud of that and just
knowing that helps my confidence which helps my game.
Alex
Alex Kanapilly
she's
not moving back.
JoeyA
I moved here 11 years ago from Chicago and won't move back... but I
would consider SanDiego. But Bob's right, the weather has been in the
60's for the past 2 weeks ore more (not counting today).
Alex
Ratchet
I have been playing since I was around 7 ,I was raised to give "honest
effort" in every game and played that way well into my early 30's ,In my
late 20's I was introduced to the APA and played my butt off and soon
reached a 5 skill level ,during that time I was introduced to "safeties"
as a way to stay in the game but hardly ever attempted them because I
sucked at them ,I may as well of gave up BIH right then.
I was forced to give the game up until I was in my mid 40's when I
rediscovered my love for the game and I picked up where I had left off
or so I thought ! I found that certain areas of my game were not there
like they used to be but I had become stronger in others I am a smarter
player than back then I now know that executing the perfect "safe" can
and will win you the game more often than going "balls to the wall"
In the old days a safety would cost you a tooth or two ,now they are
widely accepted as an integral part of the game . I cannot pull off a
bank shot like I used to,I used to be spot on deadly with a bank but
thats history nowadays . My friends say that the reason I banked so well
back in the day was because I was a sh!tty position player .But today I
am a better position player than I am a banker and I consider that a
fairly decent trade.
I also know that now that I am getting my own barbox/pooltable in the
very near future ( 2 months or less) and will be able to practise at
home that my banking abilities will return as well as some of the other
stuff I now lack.....
Ratchet - but my eyes are getting pretty old now too :-( !
Bob Johnson
Whoopeee!
--
Bob Johnson, Denver/Thornton, Co.
bo...@cris.com
"Alex Kanapilly" <al...@redrobin.com> wrote in message
Michael Page
<bo...@cris.com> wrote:
> Tomorrow, we're supposed to get close to 70! We're doing a lunch ride!
> Whoopeee!
It's 70 here right now.
...
mike page <-- unfortunately he needs to go outside later
fargo