One of my Rambow Cues- Ebay Ad
Deno J. Andrews
I decided to start divesting part of my collection and have placed a very
special item on Ebay. Check it out. I bet most, if not all of you have
never seen a Rambow this old. This was supposedly one of Rambow's very
first cues when he started to make cues on his own. I purchased it from the
original owner's student, who was left the cue when Ernie Presto, the
original owner, died.
Deno
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3645772933
Bradley E Robertson
GO10, or is/was Deno a charter member?
Brad . . . from another era
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pltrgyst
> I decided to start divesting part of my collection and have placed a very
> special item on Ebay.
Damned nice cue, Deno. It must be really tough to part with an item
with a personal provenance like that. Wish I was in a position to buy
it. But the art addiction I understand, since we ran out of wall space
years ago.
Of course, you could always mount the cues horizontally in shadow
boxes hung on the walls -- I suppose some collectors must do that.
On that theme, I've never seen any sort of cue collection on permanent
display. Are there any? Do any serious collectors ever open up their
collections to public view, free or for a fee, at their homes, or at
billiard expos, etc? Is there anything than to rival just pawing your
Blue Book to death in lust?
-- Larry
Deno J. Andrews
Shepard, I can't think of anyone who is still current that was here any
longer than I, as I think my first post was in 1995 or so. But in the end,
it's not like I am trying to sell a 1995 McDermott with some cheesy vinyl
case. And if any of the RSB police have a problem, they know what they can
do with it as far as I'm concerned ;)
Deno
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There's a gentleman from Japan who me he has an ultra secure condominium
just to house his cue collection! I know I could build a couple of dream
homes for what his collection is worth!
--
just more hot air! 8^)
Sherm
aka "cuesmith" in yahoo
Sherm Custom Billiard Cues by,
Sherman Adamson
3352 Nine Mile Rd., Cincinnati Ohio 45255
Shop (513)553-2172, Cell (513)509-9152
http://www.shermcue.com Over 20 years experience
almost a decade in "The American Cuemakers Association"
Play4aBuck
Deno J. Andrews wrote in message ...
I'm really surprised that your first and only bid so far, was for $750!!
WOW, that guy must really want it, for the first bid I think I'd start out a
little lower.
And that $750 did not even meet your "very very low reserve for such an
item". How much do you think this is worth?
Cheers,
Jim
Deno J. Andrews
be hung vertically. When I hang them, I wrap a small strip of wax paper
around the shaft near the tip. I then wrap a rubber band several times
around it. The rubber bands are almost the same color as the shafts, so you
can barely see them. Then I tap in a picture hanger with a small hook at
the bottom. I take a part of the rubber band and loop it over the hook.
That way the cue can hang straight. When the cue settles, I place a very
small nail in the wall just below the bumper so the cue rests a little on
the nail, to relieve some of the pressure on the rubber band.
As far as the shadow boxes are concerned, I really believe that cues are the
sort of things that need to be able to be handled. Putting them in a box
just doesn't seem appropriate. This is part of the reason I have sold and
am selling this component of my collection. I have too many cues that I
only yank out once or twice a year to show people. And since I really don't
hang out with pool or billiard players here in town, most of the people who
see them couldn't give a rat's butt about them anyway. I am going to keep
only my three most prized Rambow cues...and you can imagine what those must
be like if this one isn't one of them! One of the cues was my grandfathers.
He was also close with Rambow. And the other two belonged to Hoppe and
Schaeffer. Hoppe gave my grandfather a Rambow cue that Hoppe had played
with in the 40s as a thank you gift for helping organize a bunch of
Midwestern exhibitions in the late 40s and early 50s. Hoppe was a guest
several times at the house I grew up in, so he and my grandfather were
somewhat close. I have some really cool non-promotional pictures of Hoppe
which are pretty rare. The other cue was a cue that Schaeffer gave to my
grandfather in the late 60s. Schaeffer had used this cue in many 3 cushion
tournaments, and was the cue that Schaeffer would leave here in Chicago for
his month long visits as a guest of my grandfather. Schaeffer and my
grandfather would play billiards in their pyjamas every day for a month when
he would come to town. Although I don't remember, Schaeffer used to play
with me as a baby and subsequently bust my mom's balls for not improving her
position play in straight rail.
Besides those three cues, I have purchased over the last twelve or so years
over twenty Rambow cues. As you can imagine, I picked up most of them
somewhat cheap, before the Rambow became well known. This one is one of
those, so I am not so attached to it as the ones that belonged to my
grandfather. However, I doubt that it will sell for what it is worth...but
it is one of the last ones to go, as I sold many of them to a single
collector last month. If it doesn't sell, I don't really mind as it is a
really early Rambow and worth a great deal of money in the end. But thanks
for looking at it. It really is a nice cue.
Deno
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inexpensive at that. While I wont disclose the reserve, it is much much
lower than what the cue is "worth." And if you have seen what other real
Rambow's sell for, you can expect this will be even more because of the
hostorical value and provenance. It probably wont sell though, despite the
low reserve. To give you some measure, I wouldn't sell the shaft for $750.
Deno
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One of my Rambow Cues- Ebay Ad
(Deno J. Andrews)
Howdy,
<pinched from e-bay>
I decided to start divesting part of my collection and have placed a
Deno
(*<~ ART ? What do you know about Vaughn Shoemaker ?
Shoemaker was a student and teacher at the Chicago Art Institute. He
won two Pultizer Prizes for his political cartoons. He also worked in
watercolors (in his early work) and oils (later in his career). He was
in the habit of doing landscapes and still life's in Illinois and other
areas he visited. His paintings are much sought after and I've never
found a record of his work at ANY auction in the world. He was born in
1902 and I have a rare early Shoemaker watercolor (dated 1922)
depicting a 'covered bridge' and titled "Limestone Creek, Lemont,
Illinois" framed by M. O'Brien & Sons, Inc. Art Galleries. 673 North
Michigan Ave.
I will trade you for your Rambow, plus $10,000 (or a nice boat & some
bait)
This painting may be worth $50,000 - $1,000,000.00
or, maybe NOT....
Doug
~>*(((>< Big fish eat Little fish ><)))*<~
Deno J. Andrews
I know he won two Pulitzers, one in '38 and one in '47. Also, there are a
number of books that you should be checking out. There is a link below with
a quick list of some of his publications. While I wish that your painting
was worth as much as you think it might be, I seriously doubt that you would
get anywhere near that amount. Watercolor was not what he was known for,
and in terms of paintings, it would have to be a really superior painting to
bring anything serious. That is not to say that it is not a great painting.
And if you want to email me a picture of it, I would love to see it.
O'brien & Sons gallery I think closed in the 70s but were around since the
late 1800s in Chicago. Lemont, Il, where the subject of the painting is, is
a suburb of the city. How did you end up with a Shoemaker watercolor? What
is the provenance? You don't have any of his cartoons do you?
Deno
Shoemaker Books:
http://www.bibliodirect.com/search_results.php?start=1
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Smorgass Bored
Hey Smorg,
I know he won two Pulitzers, one in '38 and one in '47. Also, there are
a number of books that you should be checking out. There is a link below
with a quick list of some of his publications. While I wish that your
painting was worth as much as you think it might be, I seriously doubt
that you would get anywhere near that amount. Watercolor was not what he
was known for, and in terms of paintings, it would have to be a really
superior painting to bring anything serious. That is not to say that it
is not a great painting. And if you want to email me a picture of it, I
would love to see it. O'brien & Sons gallery I think closed in the 70s
but were around since the late 1800s in Chicago. Lemont, Il, where the
subject of the painting is, is a suburb of the city. How did you end up
with a Shoemaker watercolor? What is the provenance? You don't have any
of his cartoons do you? Deno
Shoemaker Books:
http://www.bibliodirect.com/search_results.php?start=1
(*<~ A female lawyer (I don't have her name at hand at the moment)
died about a decade ago and they were auctioning off the contents of her
office (I believe she was from Chicago originally). I bid on her law
library and shelves, but was outbid (by some young lawyers). I ended up
high bidder on an antique oscillating fan w/brass blades,an antique area
rug, an antique coat/umbrella stand, some SPY prints and the Shoemaker
painting. I soldeverything else, but kept the Shoemaker (it hangs in my
livingroom). I believe that the Shoemaker watercolor will bring
$10,000-$15,000 at auction (with the 'right' buyers in attendance)..
I put this reply on 'hold' and went to look up the lawyers name. She
was Dolores L. Jendrynski (I'd be curious if she was listed in any old
Chicago area phonebooks).
I also have a very nice old oil on board by the "Witch of Kodakery",
Myra Albert Wiggins... (and a hand drawn & colored "Steve Canyon" by the
late Milton Caniff)
(oh, and a charcoal potrait by James Montgomery Flagg... of the war
poster "Uncle Sam Wants You").
pool is not my only game... imo
Sorackem
Sounds like a trip to Disneyland for me Deno.
I've been consumed by this game for a good while, and so far have yet but
one (1) unique picture hanging up in my room, a $140 Mali (wifes'), a late
model Joss (father-in-law) and '83' Joss (MINE).
It all comes back to the same thing, I'd love to have your cue, but I just
can't afford all those things. I've got the table however, but it was akin
to selling my soul, the pleading and prostrating was humiliating and
yes -sniffle- a bit scarring..
Sorackem
-Brian
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any drug. Same goes for fine old cues and the such.
Deno
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the painting and the paper it's on. Let me know when you want to sell
it...watercolor's not my thing usually, but if it is really nice, I can find
a place for it. I didn't know you were so cultured Smorg! You should be
playing 3 cushion, not pool.
Deno
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Steve.
>> Deno said on ebay:
>> So I decided it was time to divest most of my collection as I am
collecting >>art these days
You can take that hard earned money from the sale of the cue and
stroll up to Northwestern and buy one of my son's paintings. ;-)
Steve.
Donald Tees
> Deno wrote:
> painting. I soldeverything else, but kept the Shoemaker (it hangs in my
> livingroom). I believe that the Shoemaker watercolor will bring
> $10,000-$15,000 at auction (with the 'right' buyers in attendance)..
> I put this reply on 'hold' and went to look up the lawyers name. She
> was Dolores L. Jendrynski (I'd be curious if she was listed in any old
> Chicago area phonebooks).
>
The "right buyers" is a toughy. Back when they were a bit cheaper, I
use to collect old maps. I have a 1604 Ortelius of the holy lands that
probably doubled in value over the last two days. It will also probably
drop back down in the next three. It can be as much *when* you decide to
sell as what.
Donald
Donald Tees
It is kinda nice when it progresses beyond fridge art, is it not? My son
seems to be doing mostly computer work these days, but his love is oils.
Donald
Deno J. Andrews
something like that. However, I made a couple of somewhat serious purchases
already...so maybe after the next cue!
Deno
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Steve.
The funny thing is the son who I referred to in my post to Deno has a
identical twin brother. He went to school to do computer graphics (you
know something practical) and was working in the field for a couple of
years in NYC. Then he came down with debilitating (sp?) carpal-tunnel
syndrome and had to leave the field. So now he drives a cab on
Nantucket and paints the rest of the time he's awake (to the extend
the carpal-tunnel lets him). He is just as good as his brother, but
different because he learned oils on his own not through a formal
program. Maybe your son will get carpal-tunnel and be forced to do
what he loves. ;-) Now if my son can only meet a rich girl down there,
hmmmmm.
For somebody who loves art like me and can barely draw a stick figure,
it is really is nice to see.
Steve. <- Hopes nobody yells at him for posting non-pool.
pltrgyst
<denoa...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>I think I was originally part of the G10. Well, besides Bob Jewett and Ron
>Shepard, I can't think of anyone who is still current that was here any
>longer than I, as I think my first post was in 1995 or so.
September 1994 here for RSB, December 1993 for ASP. 8;)
-- Larry
David Malone
wrote:
>For somebody who loves art like me and can barely draw a stick figure,
>it is really is nice to see.
I'm not Art but I'm sure he loves you too...
(Went to the London College of Arts on a scholorship but hasn't
painted anything except ceilings and walls for decades. Maybe I'll get
CTS and retire and paint one of these days... I think I'm having a
twinge right now...)
David "The Hamster" Malone
Steve.
> Believe me, when I saw pics of his work, it is never out of my mind to do
> something like that. However, I made a couple of somewhat serious purchases
> already...so maybe after the next cue!
> Deno
>
I'll let you know when his thesis show comes around in the spring.
Steve.
Donald Tees
> hmmmmm.
> For somebody who loves art like me and can barely draw a stick figure,
> it is really is nice to see.
> Steve. <- Hopes nobody yells at him for posting non-pool.
Me too, on both counts.
Donald
Steve Ellis
I am really beginning to think you are the epitome of a Renaissance man.
Of course, you could be like a bookie once described Chris Ford (former baskeball player)
to me when he came to the Celtics. "A good all around player missing a little bit all
around." ;-)
Steve.
Deno J. Andrews
him soon.
Deno
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pltrgyst
<rsp...@RemoveThiss-c-ellis.com> wrote:
>Of course, you could be like a bookie once described Chris Ford (former baskeball player)
>to me when he came to the Celtics. "A good all around player missing a little bit all
>around." ;-)
Nice quote, but are you sure he wasn't speaking of Havlicek?
-- Larry
Rich Conboy
Do you still still have the Cognoscenti billiard cue?
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David Malone
<rsp...@RemoveThiss-c-ellis.com> wrote:
>Of course, you could be like a bookie once described Chris Ford (former baskeball player)
>to me when he came to the Celtics. "A good all around player missing a little bit all
>around." ;-)
Lol... I think you've nailed it. I can do almost* anything but not
well enough to make a living doing it.
* (except play pool - but my excuse is I only started three years ago.
My only pool goal is to one day be able to play with the likes of
Jimbo, Roger, Mike P., Thierry, and Fred without feeling totally
outclassed.)
David "The Hamster" Malone
Steve.
Havlicek was missing nothing, besides he didn't come to the Celtics;
he was born a Celtic, but it wasn't realized until he got older. To
quote Johnny Most the former radio voice of the Celtics "Havlicek
STOLE the ball!!!! Havlicek STOLE the ball!!!!". What a game that was.
Once I saw Chris Ford play a lot, I knew it was a perfect description
of him.
>
> -- Larry
pltrgyst
wrote:
>Havlicek was missing nothing, besides he didn't come to the Celtics;
>he was born a Celtic, but it wasn't realized until he got older.
You Boston guys are so easy... 8;)
-- Larry
Steve Ellis
Women tell me that all the time.
>
>-- Larry
Roger Orsulak
You have more class in your pinky finger than I could ever muster.
Roger
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Steve Ellis
>David:
>You have more class in your pinky finger than I could ever muster.
>Roger
I think everyone who has met David would tend to agree on that one. However, he was
talking particularly about his pool game . ;-)
Unfortunately I didn't get to experience his pool game at the NE RSB thingy, but I did
spend enough time talking with him to concur with you on the first point.
Steve. <- Class? He don't need no stinkin' class.
David Malone
<noma...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>You have more class in your pinky finger than I could ever muster.
Thanks, Roger. You're a class act as a person as well as my new role
model when it comes to playing pool. I've always loved the way Thierry
rolls the ball around the table (his style is perfect for 9-ball) but
I saw something when I was playing you that just clicked and I made a
mental note that that's the way I want to be able to play pool one
day. Minimal ball movement and absolute cue-ball control.
David "The Hamster" Malone
David Malone
<rsp...@RemoveThiss-c-ellis.com> wrote:
>However, he was
>talking particularly about his pool game . ;-)
Steve, thanks... my pool game unfortunately has no class. Lol...
>Unfortunately I didn't get to experience his pool game at the NE RSB thingy, but I did
>spend enough time talking with him to concur with you on the first point.
And that goes double for you and Roger. It's a pity more ASP/RSB
people can't get together and meet each other - I have yet to meet any
of you that I didn't like. I think Donald Tees said it best on ASP
when he noted that the newsgroup participants tend to be of above
average intelligence and enjoy communicating via the written word.
David "The Hamster" Malone
ratchet
David Malone wrote:
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Ratchet---- trying to come up with a cool name like "The Hamster" best thing I can think of
relating to my game is (talk about these amongst yourselves )
" The Hanger " due to my constant ability to "hang" the 8 ball in the pocket w/o
dropping it in 9 ball & 8 ball
Or maybe even "The Buckler" -------- hehehehe
Tom
David Malone
wrote:
>Ratchet---- trying to come up with a cool name like "The Hamster"
Hey, Tom, I think Rat Shit is already pretty cool... lol.
>best thing I can think of
>relating to my game is (talk about these amongst yourselves )
>" The Hanger " due to my constant ability to "hang" the 8 ball in the pocket w/o
>dropping it in 9 ball & 8 ball
In that case my nick name should be Choker... or maybe Flubber.
David "The Hamster" Malone
Patrick Johnson
> ... I think Donald Tees said it best on ASP
> when he noted that the newsgroup participants tend to be of above
> average intelligence
There's a sobering thought...
Pat Johnson
Chicago
ratchet
David Malone
wrote:
>LOL !!!
I can remember thinking it was pretty funny when my Dad told me to get
him the 'rat shit' screwdriver (ok... I was 6 years old). I was
equally shocked to find out he had 'bastard' files and thought it was
just his own private name for them until I worked in a factory one
summer...
David "The Hamster" Malone
Billy
> David Malone wrote:
>
> > ... I think Donald Tees said it best on ASP
> > when he noted that the newsgroup participants tend to be of above
> > average intelligence
Pat thunk:
> There's a sobering thought...
Can you expand on that? Is it because Donald said it...or, because
you think it could be true...or, because you think it could be
untrue...or, because you've never heard Donald with a sober thought
before?
...............Billy
Sorackem
"Minimal ball movement and absolute cue-ball control".
-Interesting David.
After watching, a couple months ago, "Pool Hall Junkies" and watching all
the 'trick' shots, and fancy ball movement, I then caught a 7ball semi-final
on TV with Ralf Souquet and Francisco.
I noticed that Ralph seemed to play with, as you say, 'minimal ball
movement', and I also felt something 'click' in my mind. Not that I
haven't thought this before, but it seemed to be driven home more so this
time, especially after seeing the circus shots on the 'PHJ' movie. Kinda the
right place at the right time, with the right mindset. I'm often learning
things over again - I guess as one's skill improve, they may at times,
process old information from a new perspective.
As far as absolute cue-ball control, let me work on it for a couple more
weeks...
Appreciatively;
Brian
Steve Ellis
I think he meant if we're of above average intellegence, God help the rest of the
population, they must be pretty low on the food chain. It was a funny, but like many
"intelligent" people, Pat's jokes have to been explained. I know I'm always explaining my
jokes so I figure that must mean I'm more intelligent and the masses just don't get.
(That's a joke in case you didn't get it (That's a joke in case you didn't get it (That's
a ... ).
Steve.
Donald Tees
You really think god has a stack architecture?
Donald
John W. Pierce
>
> You really think god has a stack architecture?
Yeah, and it overflowed one hell of a long time ago.
-- jwp
Steve Ellis
>
>You really think god has a stack architecture?
>
>Donald
IMHO, if God has an architecture at all it is clearly beyond the comprehension of even we
lofty thinkers on ASP / RSB.
Ever listen to the song "Sun, oh Sun" by Eric Burton's group "War". Is the lyric they are
singing "There must be a reason why I don't know" or is it "There must be a reason why, I
don't know".
Steve. <- I stink, therefore I am.
BTW, I have heard from reliable sources that many, many members of Mensa were turned away
when they applied for membership in ASP/RSB.
John W. Pierce
>
> BTW, I have heard from reliable sources that many, many members of Mensa
were turned away
> when they applied for membership in ASP/RSB.
Thankfully. We have enough ill-behaved people here as things are.
-- jwp
Steve Ellis
>Ever listen to the song "Sun, oh Sun" by Eric Burton's group "War". Is the lyric they are
>singing "There must be a reason why I don't know" or is it "There must be a reason why, I
>don't know".
Wrong song, same lyric, same thought.
Ron Hudson
wrote:
>BTW, I have heard from reliable sources that many, many members of Mensa were turned away
>when they applied for membership in ASP/RSB.
Or was it the other way around?
Ron
Smorgass Bored
Steve Ellis wrote:
BTW, I have heard from reliable sources that many, many members of
Mensa were turned away when they applied for membership in ASP/RSB.
Or was it the other way around?
Ron Hudson
(*<~ Well, I have an IQ of 133 and if it would drop 50 points, I'd
start going to the Bucs games IN PERSON.
if it would drop 100 points, I'd move back to NEW ORLEANS... imo
Doug
hell, if it would drop 132 points, I'd go play 9-ball with DumboCT,
(and, enjoy his wit)
Doug
~>*(((>< Big fish eat Little fish ><)))*<~
pltrgyst
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>Ever listen to the song "Sun, oh Sun" by Eric Burton's group "War".
That must be a counterpoint to Burdon's "Sky Pilot", which was the
theme song for some of us in 'nam. 8;)
BTW, War was never Burdon's group -- he just recorded an album with
them. Their biggest hit was "Cisco Kid"; and they're still active,
coming to Blues Alley here in DC once a year or so. They have a
harmonica player named Felix who's the best I've ever seen, and put on
a great, high-energy show. When they do "Cisco Kid", everybody joins
in and the place really rocks.
-- Larry
Steve Ellis
>On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:51:43 GMT, Steve Ellis
><rsp...@RemoveThiss-c-ellis.com> wrote:
>
>>Ever listen to the song "Sun, oh Sun" by Eric Burton's group "War".
>
>That must be a counterpoint to Burdon's "Sky Pilot", which was the
>theme song for some of us in 'nam. 8;)
>
>BTW, War was never Burdon's group -- he just recorded an album with
>them. Their biggest hit was "Cisco Kid"; and they're still active,
Like many groups their best known work is not their best work. I love their version of
"Tobacco Road", "Mother Earth", "All Day Music", etc. Actually I like every thing they did
back in their heyday including "Cisco Kid". It may have been all pot induced (how did my
mind survive those days?), but it seemed to me they had a lot more to say philosophically
than most Rock bands. Of course, they will still have to come in second to Robie Robinson
and "The Band".
I know they're still active, but I find their work has strayed too far from Rock 'n Roll
towards pure ethnic Spanish for my taste. Still good stuff I suppose, but not what I like.
I may have been mistaken about their being Eric Burton's group, I'll take your world for
it.
Steve.