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Hank
Dec 23, 2011, 11:26:01 AM12/23/11
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Since it winter and not much to do outside, I thought I'd try to stir
up some interest in this News Group.
I see a few of the older names, but not many new ones. Maybe if us
older folk tell a few of our stories, the new people will join in.
I am sure we all have many. I'll go first with a short one.
At a scotch doubles tournament, typical valley rules except each team
could only use 2 timeouts per game and no talking, race to 2 (best out
of 3). Score was 1 to 1. My wife and I had used both our timeouts. I
had missed making the 8 ball because the shot was very difficult, so I
played safe and hid the cue ball behind the 8. Our opponents had 2
balls left but were unable to hit either. My wife gets Ball-in-hand.
She picks up the cue ball and walks around the table looking at the
opponents ball. She is acting like she wants to shoot their ball! I
can't say anything and people are looking at me wondering what I was
goingto do, as if I could say something, which I couldn't. All my wife
had to do was shoot the 8 ball in. But noooooo! She places the cue
ball down and shoots one of their balls in. Damn! The other team calls
a foul, gets BIH and shoots their only ball left and then the 8 to
win.
I just got up quietly, held my head low, shook my head from side to
side as I walked out.
This is one game I'll never forget.
Hank <~~~ hope others have stories too
up some interest in this News Group.
I see a few of the older names, but not many new ones. Maybe if us
older folk tell a few of our stories, the new people will join in.
I am sure we all have many. I'll go first with a short one.
At a scotch doubles tournament, typical valley rules except each team
could only use 2 timeouts per game and no talking, race to 2 (best out
of 3). Score was 1 to 1. My wife and I had used both our timeouts. I
had missed making the 8 ball because the shot was very difficult, so I
played safe and hid the cue ball behind the 8. Our opponents had 2
balls left but were unable to hit either. My wife gets Ball-in-hand.
She picks up the cue ball and walks around the table looking at the
opponents ball. She is acting like she wants to shoot their ball! I
can't say anything and people are looking at me wondering what I was
goingto do, as if I could say something, which I couldn't. All my wife
had to do was shoot the 8 ball in. But noooooo! She places the cue
ball down and shoots one of their balls in. Damn! The other team calls
a foul, gets BIH and shoots their only ball left and then the 8 to
win.
I just got up quietly, held my head low, shook my head from side to
side as I walked out.
This is one game I'll never forget.
Hank <~~~ hope others have stories too
PatH
Dec 23, 2011, 12:18:09 PM12/23/11
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I think sometimes Scottish Doubles offers some of the best stories. I
played with a woman a number of years ago in an annual tournament that
we had won the year before. In our first game of the first match the
opposing girl broke and the rack was still all clustered up. My
partner was first to shoot and called for a coach right away. She
said " I want to shoot the 7 ball" and I said "If you shoot the 7
ball the eight is going right in the corner." She disagreed and after
about ten minutes of discussion she shot the 7 ball anyway. 8 Ball
went right in the corner. She then turned and looked at me in tears
and said "WHY DID YOU LET ME SHOOT THAT BALL" I was laughing so hard
I couldn't even answer her. We were 2 and out. Go figure. I still
give her a hard time about that shot.
PatH...nobody ever listens to me
played with a woman a number of years ago in an annual tournament that
we had won the year before. In our first game of the first match the
opposing girl broke and the rack was still all clustered up. My
partner was first to shoot and called for a coach right away. She
said " I want to shoot the 7 ball" and I said "If you shoot the 7
ball the eight is going right in the corner." She disagreed and after
about ten minutes of discussion she shot the 7 ball anyway. 8 Ball
went right in the corner. She then turned and looked at me in tears
and said "WHY DID YOU LET ME SHOOT THAT BALL" I was laughing so hard
I couldn't even answer her. We were 2 and out. Go figure. I still
give her a hard time about that shot.
PatH...nobody ever listens to me
Jack
Dec 24, 2011, 8:52:02 AM12/24/11
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On 12/23/2011 12:18 PM, PatH wrote:
> I think sometimes Scottish Doubles offers some of the best stories. I
> played with a woman a number of years ago in an annual tournament that
> we had won the year before. In our first game of the first match the
> opposing girl broke and the rack was still all clustered up. My
> partner was first to shoot and called for a coach right away. She
> said " I want to shoot the 7 ball" and I said "If you shoot the 7
> ball the eight is going right in the corner." She disagreed and after
> about ten minutes of discussion she shot the 7 ball anyway. 8 Ball
> went right in the corner. She then turned and looked at me in tears
> and said "WHY DID YOU LET ME SHOOT THAT BALL" I was laughing so hard
> I couldn't even answer her. We were 2 and out. Go figure. I still
> give her a hard time about that shot.
>
> PatH...nobody ever listens to me
My experience with coaching wimmin is if they listen, they make a half
> I think sometimes Scottish Doubles offers some of the best stories. I
> played with a woman a number of years ago in an annual tournament that
> we had won the year before. In our first game of the first match the
> opposing girl broke and the rack was still all clustered up. My
> partner was first to shoot and called for a coach right away. She
> said " I want to shoot the 7 ball" and I said "If you shoot the 7
> ball the eight is going right in the corner." She disagreed and after
> about ten minutes of discussion she shot the 7 ball anyway. 8 Ball
> went right in the corner. She then turned and looked at me in tears
> and said "WHY DID YOU LET ME SHOOT THAT BALL" I was laughing so hard
> I couldn't even answer her. We were 2 and out. Go figure. I still
> give her a hard time about that shot.
>
> PatH...nobody ever listens to me
baked attempt and fail anyway. Sometimes they don't listen and then
yell at you interfearing (correct spelling) with their game. If you
don't coach them they complain that you should have coached them. You
lose regardless, and APA sucks. My wife's an APA 3, I'ma APA 7. She
knows far more than me, and is impossible to coach, so I refuse to coach
her. On the extremely rare occasion she asks for a coach, everyone on
the team pretends to not hear her, but they know I won't do it, so
someone has to get in the water, and the water is deep. I try to stay
high and dry...
--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com
John Black
Dec 24, 2011, 5:15:42 PM12/24/11
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In article <343911bf-56e4-43e5-b519-266e75a7d906
@f33g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, nineb...@aol.com says...
What is with this "no talking" stuff? Even the pros talk to each other
in doubles. Stupid. I love how rank amateurs always want to make the
game more difficult than even the pros want it. One example is the "call
everything" rules vs. the call pocket rules that pros are perfectly
satisfied to play by. Another example is the stigma that the bridge has.
"Ha ha, you're going to use the crutch, the lady's aide? How lame." Yet
a professional pool player a million times better than the guy making fun
of me feels no shame or inadequacy using a bridge when called for. Its
funny to me.
All this said, talking should be VERY brief except in rare circumstances.
More on that in a reply to Pat.
John Black
@f33g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, nineb...@aol.com says...
in doubles. Stupid. I love how rank amateurs always want to make the
game more difficult than even the pros want it. One example is the "call
everything" rules vs. the call pocket rules that pros are perfectly
satisfied to play by. Another example is the stigma that the bridge has.
"Ha ha, you're going to use the crutch, the lady's aide? How lame." Yet
a professional pool player a million times better than the guy making fun
of me feels no shame or inadequacy using a bridge when called for. Its
funny to me.
All this said, talking should be VERY brief except in rare circumstances.
More on that in a reply to Pat.
John Black
John Black
Dec 24, 2011, 5:23:53 PM12/24/11
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In article <7432851a-c0f0-4c31-b962-c06c63e383f4
@l29g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, ph...@certcoinc.com says...
my biggest peeves about league was long coachings. Drove me nuts. I
think APA has a 2 minute limit, or maybe one minute. It should be no
more than a minute, especially if there can be 2 coachings per game.
Anyway, it never got enforced. I complained to the TD or whatever the
guy who is supposed to arbitrate rule questions is called in APA but he
did nothing as his team was one of the worst offenders. I have not
played league in about 6 years and I don't miss it (yet).
John Black
@l29g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, ph...@certcoinc.com says...
> I think sometimes Scottish Doubles offers some of the best stories. I
> played with a woman a number of years ago in an annual tournament that
> we had won the year before. In our first game of the first match the
> opposing girl broke and the rack was still all clustered up. My
> partner was first to shoot and called for a coach right away. She
> said " I want to shoot the 7 ball" and I said "If you shoot the 7
> ball the eight is going right in the corner." She disagreed and after
> about ten minutes of discussion she shot the 7 ball anyway.
TEN MINUTES of discussion? I hope that is a huge exaggeration. One of
> played with a woman a number of years ago in an annual tournament that
> we had won the year before. In our first game of the first match the
> opposing girl broke and the rack was still all clustered up. My
> partner was first to shoot and called for a coach right away. She
> said " I want to shoot the 7 ball" and I said "If you shoot the 7
> ball the eight is going right in the corner." She disagreed and after
> about ten minutes of discussion she shot the 7 ball anyway.
my biggest peeves about league was long coachings. Drove me nuts. I
think APA has a 2 minute limit, or maybe one minute. It should be no
more than a minute, especially if there can be 2 coachings per game.
Anyway, it never got enforced. I complained to the TD or whatever the
guy who is supposed to arbitrate rule questions is called in APA but he
did nothing as his team was one of the worst offenders. I have not
played league in about 6 years and I don't miss it (yet).
John Black
John Black
Dec 24, 2011, 11:57:38 PM12/24/11
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In article <jd4le4$i8p$1...@dont-email.me>, jbst...@comcast.net says...
> My wife's an APA 3, I'ma APA 7. She
> knows far more than me, and is impossible to coach, so I refuse to coach
> her. On the extremely rare occasion she asks for a coach, everyone on
> the team pretends to not hear her, but they know I won't do it, so
> someone has to get in the water, and the water is deep. I try to stay
> high and dry...
Hilarious. Yeah no one should be coaching their SO.
John Black
>
> On 12/23/2011 12:18 PM, PatH wrote:
> > I think sometimes Scottish Doubles offers some of the best stories. I
> > played with a woman a number of years ago in an annual tournament that
> > we had won the year before. In our first game of the first match the
> > opposing girl broke and the rack was still all clustered up. My
> > partner was first to shoot and called for a coach right away. She
> > said " I want to shoot the 7 ball" and I said "If you shoot the 7
> > ball the eight is going right in the corner." She disagreed and after
> > about ten minutes of discussion she shot the 7 ball anyway. 8 Ball
> > went right in the corner. She then turned and looked at me in tears
> > and said "WHY DID YOU LET ME SHOOT THAT BALL" I was laughing so hard
> > I couldn't even answer her. We were 2 and out. Go figure. I still
> > give her a hard time about that shot.
> >
> > PatH...nobody ever listens to me
>
> My experience with coaching wimmin is if they listen, they make a half
> baked attempt and fail anyway. Sometimes they don't listen and then
> yell at you interfearing (correct spelling) with their game. If you
> don't coach them they complain that you should have coached them. You
> lose regardless, and APA sucks.
Sounds about right.
> On 12/23/2011 12:18 PM, PatH wrote:
> > I think sometimes Scottish Doubles offers some of the best stories. I
> > played with a woman a number of years ago in an annual tournament that
> > we had won the year before. In our first game of the first match the
> > opposing girl broke and the rack was still all clustered up. My
> > partner was first to shoot and called for a coach right away. She
> > said " I want to shoot the 7 ball" and I said "If you shoot the 7
> > ball the eight is going right in the corner." She disagreed and after
> > about ten minutes of discussion she shot the 7 ball anyway. 8 Ball
> > went right in the corner. She then turned and looked at me in tears
> > and said "WHY DID YOU LET ME SHOOT THAT BALL" I was laughing so hard
> > I couldn't even answer her. We were 2 and out. Go figure. I still
> > give her a hard time about that shot.
> >
> > PatH...nobody ever listens to me
>
> My experience with coaching wimmin is if they listen, they make a half
> baked attempt and fail anyway. Sometimes they don't listen and then
> yell at you interfearing (correct spelling) with their game. If you
> don't coach them they complain that you should have coached them. You
> lose regardless, and APA sucks.
> My wife's an APA 3, I'ma APA 7. She
> knows far more than me, and is impossible to coach, so I refuse to coach
> her. On the extremely rare occasion she asks for a coach, everyone on
> the team pretends to not hear her, but they know I won't do it, so
> someone has to get in the water, and the water is deep. I try to stay
> high and dry...
John Black
Hank
Dec 25, 2011, 5:50:40 AM12/25/11
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On Dec 24, 5:15 pm, John Black <jbl...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> What is with this "no talking" stuff? Even the pros talk to each other
> in doubles. Stupid. I love how rank amateurs always want to make the
> game more difficult than even the pros want it. One example is the "call
> everything" rules vs. the call pocket rules that pros are perfectly
> satisfied to play by. Another example is the stigma that the bridge has.
> "Ha ha, you're going to use the crutch, the lady's aide? How lame." Yet
> a professional pool player a million times better than the guy making fun
> of me feels no shame or inadequacy using a bridge when called for. Its
> funny to me.
>
> All this said, talking should be VERY brief except in rare circumstances.
> More on that in a reply to Pat.
>
> John Black
Maybe I worded that wrong. What I should've said was... If anybody
>
> What is with this "no talking" stuff? Even the pros talk to each other
> in doubles. Stupid. I love how rank amateurs always want to make the
> game more difficult than even the pros want it. One example is the "call
> everything" rules vs. the call pocket rules that pros are perfectly
> satisfied to play by. Another example is the stigma that the bridge has.
> "Ha ha, you're going to use the crutch, the lady's aide? How lame." Yet
> a professional pool player a million times better than the guy making fun
> of me feels no shame or inadequacy using a bridge when called for. Its
> funny to me.
>
> All this said, talking should be VERY brief except in rare circumstances.
> More on that in a reply to Pat.
>
> John Black
would've said anything to her, it would've been considered coaching
and we already use our coaching timeouts.
Hank
John Black
Dec 26, 2011, 12:32:25 AM12/26/11
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In article <6e32007a-ba18-4ce4-9f17-585b265a0209
@p41g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, nineb...@aol.com says...
No, I think I got it. What I was saying is when pros play doubles they
talk to each other between most shots. Sometimes its just to point to
where they would like the cueball to be left. But they don't use rules
where they are allowed to talk to each other some limited number of
times. So if they don't, why do we??
John Black
@p41g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, nineb...@aol.com says...
talk to each other between most shots. Sometimes its just to point to
where they would like the cueball to be left. But they don't use rules
where they are allowed to talk to each other some limited number of
times. So if they don't, why do we??
John Black
Hank
Dec 26, 2011, 3:28:52 PM12/26/11
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On Dec 26, 12:32 am, John Black <jbl...@nospam.com> wrote:
> In article <6e32007a-ba18-4ce4-9f17-585b265a0209
> @p41g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, ninebal...@aol.com says...
> In article <6e32007a-ba18-4ce4-9f17-585b265a0209
Are they allowed to talk to the shooter while the shooter is at the
table?
Hank
pltr...@xhost.org
Dec 26, 2011, 3:54:11 PM12/26/11
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 08:26:01 -0800 (PST), Hank <nineb...@aol.com> wrote:
>I just got up quietly, held my head low, shook my head from side to
>side as I walked out.
You mean right after you went over and put your arm around here and told her how
>I just got up quietly, held my head low, shook my head from side to
>side as I walked out.
much you loved her?
Or was this two weeks before the divorce?
-- Larry
John Black
Dec 26, 2011, 5:23:15 PM12/26/11
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In article <5203250f-39a4-4233-9e52-
5d8f88...@u32g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, nineb...@aol.com says...
play a ton of it but the ones I've seen, they alternate each shot which
is I think "scotch". And yes, the one who just shot would indicate to
the incoming guy where approximately he would like the cue ball left for
him and they would discuss tough situations longer. I don't know if the
non-shooter could then intererupt the shooter if he saw something
developing that he didn't like but like you said, that would not be
needed.
John Black
5d8f88...@u32g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, nineb...@aol.com says...
> I think I understand your point. But they don't need coaching. :-)
>
> Are they allowed to talk to the shooter while the shooter is at the
> table?
Well I haven't watched a ton of pro doubles because I don't think they
>
> Are they allowed to talk to the shooter while the shooter is at the
> table?
play a ton of it but the ones I've seen, they alternate each shot which
is I think "scotch". And yes, the one who just shot would indicate to
the incoming guy where approximately he would like the cue ball left for
him and they would discuss tough situations longer. I don't know if the
non-shooter could then intererupt the shooter if he saw something
developing that he didn't like but like you said, that would not be
needed.
John Black
Hank
Dec 27, 2011, 6:45:15 AM12/27/11
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On Dec 26, 3:54 pm, pltrg...@xhost.org wrote:
putting the sleeper hold on her. :-)
Hank
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 08:26:01 -0800 (PST), Hank <ninebal...@aol.com> wrote:
> >I just got up quietly, held my head low, shook my head from side to
> >side as I walked out.
>
> You mean right after you went over and put your arm around here and told her how
> much you loved her?
>
> Or was this two weeks before the divorce?
>
> -- Larry
I put my arm around her and it was all I could do to keep from
> >I just got up quietly, held my head low, shook my head from side to
> >side as I walked out.
>
> You mean right after you went over and put your arm around here and told her how
> much you loved her?
>
> Or was this two weeks before the divorce?
>
> -- Larry
putting the sleeper hold on her. :-)
Hank
Hank
Dec 27, 2011, 6:46:52 AM12/27/11
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On Dec 26, 5:23 pm, John Black <jbl...@nospam.com> wrote:
> In article <5203250f-39a4-4233-9e52-
> 5d8f88217...@u32g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, ninebal...@aol.com says...
"doubles" or "scotch doubles". I don't know the difference.
Hank
> In article <5203250f-39a4-4233-9e52-
> 5d8f88217...@u32g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, ninebal...@aol.com says...
>
> > I think I understand your point. But they don't need coaching. :-)
>
> > Are they allowed to talk to the shooter while the shooter is at the
> > table?
>
> Well I haven't watched a ton of pro doubles because I don't think they
> play a ton of it but the ones I've seen, they alternate each shot which
> is I think "scotch". And yes, the one who just shot would indicate to
> the incoming guy where approximately he would like the cue ball left for
> him and they would discuss tough situations longer. I don't know if the
> non-shooter could then intererupt the shooter if he saw something
> developing that he didn't like but like you said, that would not be
> needed.
>
> John Black
In this tournament, each shooter shot until they missed. Is that just
> > I think I understand your point. But they don't need coaching. :-)
>
> > Are they allowed to talk to the shooter while the shooter is at the
> > table?
>
> Well I haven't watched a ton of pro doubles because I don't think they
> play a ton of it but the ones I've seen, they alternate each shot which
> is I think "scotch". And yes, the one who just shot would indicate to
> the incoming guy where approximately he would like the cue ball left for
> him and they would discuss tough situations longer. I don't know if the
> non-shooter could then intererupt the shooter if he saw something
> developing that he didn't like but like you said, that would not be
> needed.
>
> John Black
"doubles" or "scotch doubles". I don't know the difference.
Hank
Hank
Dec 27, 2011, 6:50:45 AM12/27/11
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Hank
bvinco
Jan 13, 2012, 5:03:45 PM1/13/12
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Married people shouldn't coach, or hang wallpaper together.
Becky
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