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Steve Ellis

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Apr 10, 2004, 3:32:29 PM4/10/04
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My son Mike's MFA thesis art show (he's a painter) is being presented at Northwestern's
Block Museum. His paintings are being presented combined with those of the other 4 people
in his program getting their MFA this year. The presentation runs from April 16th to June
20th.
The opening reception is Thursday April 15th from 5-7:30 during which there will be a
panel discussion with the exhibiting artists, including of course my son Mike.
If a father doesn't promote his son who will. ;-)
BTW, Mike looks just like the picture of Corey Duell on the cover of the Accu-stats
catalog a couple of issues ago and IMHO he paints as well as Corey shoots pool.
Steve.

Description here: http://www.blockmuseum.northwestern.edu/exhibitions/future.html
Directions here: http://www.blockmuseum.northwestern.edu/welcome/directions.html

Patrick Johnson

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Apr 10, 2004, 4:19:33 PM4/10/04
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I'll take a look, Steve. I often walk right by the entrance to Block
Museum on my way to Norris Center to play pool.

Pat Johnson
Chicago

JAM

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Apr 10, 2004, 8:14:40 PM4/10/04
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Steve E. posts:
>My son Mike's MFA thesis art show (he's a painter) is being presented....

Is there a link to a website with any of his paintings?

JAM

Steve Ellis

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Apr 10, 2004, 9:15:42 PM4/10/04
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No unfortunately there isn't. I sent you an email with a couple of pictures I've scanned,
but that's all I have. I asked his brother (who is also an artist) to put some on his
website, but he was afraid of somebody stealing his ideas before they were ready for
release. I guess unscrupulous things go on in all fields of endeavor not just pool.
Of course, you can always buy one of his paintings and have it forever. ;-)
BTW, if you're curious of his brothers graphic design work before carpal tunnel syndrome
put him in the cab driving business, you can get an idea at www.developindustrial.com. It
is very artsy and you might have trouble with a dial up connection. There is also a little
piece about Mike there, if you can find it.
Thanks for asking.
Steve.

Jennifer

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Apr 10, 2004, 11:36:31 PM4/10/04
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Very nice work. Pass on my compliments.... Flash is amazing work and I
know how difficult a medium in can be. He really did some quality stuff.
Very stylish.
--
Jennifer
http://hardtimesbellflower.com

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Steve Ellis

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Apr 17, 2004, 11:37:14 PM4/17/04
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For anyone caring to see some of my son's artwork that is in the thesis show you can do so
at http://www.developindustrial.com/mike/mike.html. There are several full paintings
there, closeups of portions of those paintings, and some regular photos. Incidentally, if
anyone cares the house with the blue shutters in the painting is my house.
Steve Ellis.

Dan White

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Apr 18, 2004, 1:32:12 AM4/18/04
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"Steve Ellis" <rsp...@RemoveThiss-c-ellis.com> wrote in message
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> For anyone caring to see some of my son's artwork that is in the thesis
show you can do so
> at http://www.developindustrial.com/mike/mike.html. There are several full
paintings
> there, closeups of portions of those paintings, and some regular photos.
Incidentally, if
> anyone cares the house with the blue shutters in the painting is my house.
> Steve Ellis.
>

Those are really interesting! What did you say the media or technique was?

dwhite


Patrick Johnson

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Apr 18, 2004, 2:01:04 AM4/18/04
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Dan White wrote:

> Those are really interesting!

Yes, they are. I like the different degrees of realism. I'll make a
point to see his show. Is that a self portrait of him?

Pat Johnson
Chicago

Steve Ellis

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Apr 18, 2004, 8:39:31 AM4/18/04
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I don't enough about art to be sure I'm answering your question properly, but some of it
is oil on canvas and some is oil on birch plywood.
Steve.


>dwhite
>

Steve Ellis

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Apr 18, 2004, 8:42:00 AM4/18/04
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Yes it is. The thing I've noticed about self-portraits is that they're always so serious.
I assume because the self they see in the mirror is concentrating on painting, never
smiling.
Steve.

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>Pat Johnson
>Chicago

Steve Ellis

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Apr 18, 2004, 8:43:39 AM4/18/04
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Pat,
Just out of curiousity, did you recognize Howard Street?
Steve.


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Mark0

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Apr 18, 2004, 10:13:09 AM4/18/04
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Great stuff Steve. Thanks for sharing.

Mark0

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David Malone

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Apr 19, 2004, 10:14:17 AM4/19/04
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 03:37:14 GMT, Steve Ellis
<rsp...@RemoveThiss-c-ellis.com> wrote:

>For anyone caring to see some of my son's artwork that is in the thesis show you can do so
>at http://www.developindustrial.com/mike/mike.html.

He's a very talented lad, Steve. I particularly like the 2 pieces with
the railways (els) in them. Urban landscapes... excellent composition
and good draughtsmanship.

I have a feeling he'll have no trouble supporting you in your old
age...

David "The Hamster" Malone

Patrick Johnson

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Apr 19, 2004, 11:00:11 AM4/19/04
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Steve:

> Just out of curiousity, did you recognize Howard Street?

Immediately. And I went to the show yesterday. His is the best work
among the four or five artists on display there now. He's extremely
technically talented and conceptually intriguing.

I especially like the way he plays with perceptions of 3-dimensionality
and reality by mixing photo-realistic scenes with photo-realistic
representations of oil paint texture with actual oil paint texture.
Several levels of self-reference which encourage the viewer to reflect
on sight, perception and art.

Pat Johnson
Chicago

Dan White

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Apr 19, 2004, 4:36:49 PM4/19/04
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I feel like I'm back in Intro to Cubism class.

dwhite


Steve Ellis

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Apr 19, 2004, 5:04:32 PM4/19/04
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LOL, he just may have to.

He has a identical twin who is just as talented (but different). Unfortunately he
developed carpal tunnel syndrome as a graphic designer and has to paint at a much slower
pace and is afraid to pursue an advanced degree for fear his wrist and neck won't hold up
under the strain. I feel bad for him, he is ultra frustrated.
Steve.

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>David "The Hamster" Malone

Steve Ellis

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Apr 19, 2004, 5:06:19 PM4/19/04
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Pat,
Thank you for the kind words, you clearly know more about art than I do. I will pass your
comments on to my son, I'm sure he'll be pleased to receive them.
Steve.

Patrick Johnson

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Apr 19, 2004, 5:36:23 PM4/19/04
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Steve Ellis wrote:
> Thank you for the kind words, you clearly know more about art than I do.

Actually I don't know anything about it. Those were just my uneducated
impressions.

pj
chgo

GORDON MATHESON

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Apr 20, 2004, 9:30:38 AM4/20/04
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"Patrick Johnson" artspeaks:

> photo-realistic representations of oil paint texture with actual oil
paint texture.

That sounds cool. What does it mean?

G. -A rose by any other name is still a rose

David Malone

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Apr 20, 2004, 9:24:45 AM4/20/04
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 21:04:32 GMT, Steve Ellis
<rsp...@RemoveThiss-c-ellis.com> wrote:

>He has a identical twin who is just as talented (but different). Unfortunately he
>developed carpal tunnel syndrome as a graphic designer and has to paint at a much slower
>pace and is afraid to pursue an advanced degree for fear his wrist and neck won't hold up
>under the strain. I feel bad for him, he is ultra frustrated.

I can imagine... but if he's thinking of pursuing a fine art career
speed has very little to do with it and a degree isn't a requirement
either.

It all boils down as to whether people will buy your paintings while
you're still alive (poor Vincent).

David "The Hamster" Malone

Patrick Johnson

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Apr 20, 2004, 10:05:59 AM4/20/04
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Me:

>> photo-realistic representations of oil paint texture with actual oil
>> paint texture.

Gordo:


> That sounds cool. What does it mean?

After consulting my internal faux art terms glossary...

"Photo-realistic representations of oil paint texture" means painting a
realistic picture of a three-dimensional-looking blob of oil paint on
the (otherwise very flat) painting.

"Actual oil paint texture" means an actual three-dimensional blob of oil
paint on the painting.

You might ask "Why paint a picture of a blob of paint when you can just
add a blob of paint?" Probably to raise such questions.

Pat Johnson
Chicago

Frank Glenn

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Apr 20, 2004, 10:38:29 AM4/20/04
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In article <108abm3...@news.supernews.com>,
patrick.jo...@THIScomcast.net says...
:|:You might ask "Why paint a picture of a blob of paint when you can just
:|:add a blob of paint?" Probably to raise such questions.
:|:
It demonstrates talent, which this young man seems to have a bunch
of. You should be proud, Steve (and I'm sure you are).
Frank

GORDON MATHESON

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Apr 20, 2004, 2:07:52 PM4/20/04
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This could open up a whole new area of artspeak. If a NY Gallery owner tells
me that my work isn't contemporary enough for his gallery, I'll tell him my
work isn't really painterly, but is a very contemporary photo-realistic
representation of a painterly landscape. I'll probably be able to double my
prices.

Thanks Pat, it just shows that the art world can occasionally reap enormous
benefit from the input of intelligent art newbies. I may give you a 10 %
commission if it enables me to double my prices.

You have the advantage having seen Mike's work up close but I only see paint
blobs in 3 paintings. Are there more? I really do love the sophisticated way
he uses color. It seems like a great number of contemporary artists are
color blind or perhaps their art professors were. Mike must have had good
ones and they obviously had a talented student to mold.


David Malone

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Apr 20, 2004, 2:50:40 PM4/20/04
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>This could open up a whole new area of artspeak. If a NY Gallery owner tells
>me that my work isn't contemporary enough for his gallery, I'll tell him my
>work isn't really painterly, but is a very contemporary photo-realistic
>representation of a painterly landscape.

Are these yours, Gordon?

http://www.hamptonroadgallery.com/page/page/508635.htm

David "The Hamster" Malone

GORDON MATHESON

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Apr 20, 2004, 8:05:54 PM4/20/04
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"David Malone" goggled Gordon and asked:

> Are these yours, Gordon?
>
> http://www.hamptonroadgallery.com/page/page/508635.htm
>
> David "The Hamster" Malone

Yes, I originally did plein aire paintings 2 -3 years ago that looked very
much like these. These are actually contemporary photo-realistic
representations of the original plein aire works. The originals were priced
from $1500 to $5000. This group is priced from $3000 to $10,000.
Photo-realistic work is much more pricey. My latest originals are more
pricey but the gallery owner is web challenged and can't put them up.
Unfortunately, I have been so busy making photo-realistic copies, I haven't
had time to do my own website.

G. - larger copy of the original G.


Steve Ellis

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Apr 20, 2004, 9:16:33 PM4/20/04
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Very nice Gordon. By coincidence my other son Dan was sitting beside me as I was reading
this post and when I went to the link. FWIW, he liked your work particularly the last one
in the bottom row.
http://www.hamptonroadgallery.com/albums/album_image/508635/85085.htm
BTW, he is also an artist.

Roger Orsulak

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Apr 21, 2004, 6:33:29 AM4/21/04
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Nah Steve, Pat probably stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Great work. You have reason to be extremely proud.

Roger

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Roger Orsulak

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Apr 21, 2004, 6:39:36 AM4/21/04
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Man! I feel so inadequate!


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David Malone

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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 00:05:54 GMT, "GORDON MATHESON"
<go...@optonline.net> wrote:

>Yes, I originally did plein aire paintings 2 -3 years ago that looked very
>much like these. These are actually contemporary photo-realistic
>representations of the original plein aire works. The originals were priced
>from $1500 to $5000. This group is priced from $3000 to $10,000.

Money aside (and it can be important), which do you prefer doing - the
original al fresco paintings or the studio reproductions? It would be
nice to be able to see them side-by-side. It's probably just me, but I
have a habit of preferring the more spontaneous field sketches to any
studio copy.

>G. - larger copy of the original G.

Me too. Ain't that the truth...

David "The Hamster" Malone

GORDON MATHESON

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Apr 22, 2004, 12:14:59 AM4/22/04
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"David Malone" asked:


> >Yes, I originally did plein aire paintings 2 -3 years ago that looked
very
> >much like these. These are actually contemporary photo-realistic

> >representations of the original plein aire works.---

> which do you prefer doing - the
> original al fresco paintings or the studio reproductions? It would be
> nice to be able to see them side-by-side. It's probably just me, but I
> have a habit of preferring the more spontaneous field sketches to any
> studio copy.
>

I was just kidding about making many exact photo-realist copies for more
money. When I do a painting again it is usually in a larger size as a
commission. I don't worry too much about making it exact but in a slide they
look pretty exact. The last one I could only tell the two slides apart by
the placement of a few white wildflowers in a large field. If I'm doing it
for myself I'll intentionally make it different.

As for your question, I prefer being outdoors whether it's painting, fishing
, golfing or hanging at the beach. I find it much more enjoyable and
creative painting outdoors in a beautiful spot. However, painting in my
studio is more efficient, usually more comfortable and I'm never far away
from my studio pool table. A original painting done in the studio from a
photograph is usually simpler which often makes it better. Paintings done
outside have a lot more texture and color which also often makes them
better. Also two of my three paint buddies just happen to be two gorgeous
women which makes my time spent painting outside more enjoyable.
Unfortunately the ladies are lousy pool players. :-)

As for seeing them side by side. E-mail me if you like and I could send you
two picture files, one done en plein aire and the other copied in the
studio. (I mean paintings not ladies you sickos)

G. - the larger copy


GORDON MATHESON

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Apr 22, 2004, 1:59:19 AM4/22/04
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> Man! I feel so inadequate!
>

Don't be silly. I don't know about Dan, but I'm pretty sure you can kick my
butt at 9-ball. That's important here, not painting.

FWIW, there are a few painting usenet groups and the flamewars there make
MM, Smorg and Jimbo etc look like rank amateurs. The Brit contemporary
painters and the critic wannabees think they are really hot mensa shit and
every other painter should lick their boots. (And that's just the women,
those Brits are really kinky)

G.- not a bootlicker yet but retaining his options

Steve.

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> ... contemporary painters and the critic wannabees think they are really hot > mensa shit and every other painter should lick their boots. (And that's just > the women, those Brits are really kinky)
>

That's interesting. My son Mike went from UMass Amherst (state school)
to Northwestern for his MFA, whereas his classmates came from high
powered private programs. One of the first things he felt was
inadequate because all the "mensa types" could "talk the talk" so much
better than he could. I just told him to "walk the walk", that's what
really matters. Pat's comment about Mike's work vis-a-vis that of his
classmates in the show therefore really hit home with me. He probably
"talks the talk" a lot better now, but I still think what matters most
is "walking the walk".
Steve.

David Malone

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Apr 22, 2004, 9:29:44 AM4/22/04
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On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 04:14:59 GMT, "GORDON MATHESON"
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>Also two of my three paint buddies just happen to be two gorgeous
>women which makes my time spent painting outside more enjoyable.

Ah... the well known Group (grope?) of Four...

>Unfortunately the ladies are lousy pool players. :-)

Lol... And the problem with that is?

> As for seeing them side by side. E-mail me if you like and I could send you
>two picture files, one done en plein aire and the other copied in the
>studio.

I'd really love to see them, Gord. My e-mail is mal...@ca.ibm.com...

David "The Hamster" Malone

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