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Deno J. Andrews

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Dec 14, 2004, 2:41:39 AM12/14/04
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3860644038

It has adorned my closet long enough.
Deno


JL

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Dec 14, 2004, 4:29:04 AM12/14/04
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I'm not a rich enough man to buy it, but that looks like one sweet poster.

JL

petemoss

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Dec 14, 2004, 4:41:15 AM12/14/04
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You must be kidding! It's a nice poster, but $4000???
Maybe the guy who bought the virgin mary grilled cheeze sandwich
would be interested....

lfigueroa

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Dec 14, 2004, 7:40:23 AM12/14/04
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Where do you come up with these prices?

Lou Figueroa
subtract a zero from the BIN price
and you'd be closer to what it's worth, IMO

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pltrgyst

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Dec 14, 2004, 10:04:58 AM12/14/04
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On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 07:41:39 GMT, "Deno J. Andrews" <denoa...@sbcglobal.net>
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Must be one hell of a big closet, Deno!

-- Larry (the slow one)

Deno J. Andrews

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Dec 14, 2004, 10:49:48 AM12/14/04
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It's stored there, in a very large tube.
Deno

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Deno J. Andrews

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Dec 14, 2004, 10:49:15 AM12/14/04
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The reserve is only a little more than the opening price. I don't know
where you have been (well I do know where you have been :), but you can't
buy a rare, nice quality original art poster of note for less than $1000
these days. This isn't the sort of thing that is printed cheaply on bad
paper, but rather a high quality piece of fine art. If you knew the poster
you would know what I mean. This poster was selling for $700-$900 in the
early 90s. Subtracting the zero from the BIN price would just cover the
cost to have a serious poster prepared and backed with some change left over
for lunch. When was the last time you saw this poster sell for less than
$1000?
Deno
-betting Lou hasn't purchased fine art in a long time


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Deno J. Andrews

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Dec 14, 2004, 10:51:32 AM12/14/04
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Do you have his email? :)

It's higher than it is worth right now. But many don't care. The reserve
is well under $2k.
Deno

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lfigueroa

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Dec 14, 2004, 4:37:16 PM12/14/04
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Well actually, you would lose that bet about my buying original fine art
recently. Try two months ago for the most recent purchase.

And when was the last time I saw this poster for less than $1000...?

Give me a minute...

Well, just googling "The Hustler" and "original French" you'll see that
currently, a French 47x63, for the original release, can be had for $247.

http://www.hollywood-in-paris.com/items_liste/00451.htm

Lou Figueroa
has an original
linen-backed
American release
one sheet on display
in his loft

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Deno J. Andrews

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Dec 14, 2004, 6:23:58 PM12/14/04
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Are you really that dense?

Lou, that poster that you cite is:
a. not even close to the same poster in more ways than one.
b. a 1961 release when the movie was a first run in many theaters, so there
were tens of thousands more posters produced
c. a mass produced printing on cheaper paper, rather than a fine art poster
like mine for the limited re-release of the movie in France.
d. not linnen backed
e. not nearly the same condition

And all that stuff is a negative and it will still cost you $250! Take into
consideration rarity; mine is a much rarer art poster...and condition (mine
is like new, and condition is a huge variable in art), and quality (mine is
a quality art poster, not a mass produced printing like the one you cite)...
and maybe you will start to get it.

If you can't differentiate between the two...well, I bet your art dealer is
a happy camper.

Deno
- thinks Lou probably bought a Kinkade, the painter of light ;-}


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lfigueroa

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Dec 14, 2004, 7:08:40 PM12/14/04
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More desirable to who? It's a Frog re-release!!

There might only be one, and it could be printed on anything you like and
beautifully linen backed all you want, but collectors interested in pool
have been passing on this crap since the ink on it was dry.

Just because you've been convincing yourself that your one-of-a-kind
paintings of Elvis on black velvet are rare, doesn't mean anyone is stupid
enough to buy the schlock your hawking.

Lou Figueroa

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Deno J. Andrews

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> More desirable to who? It's a Frog re-release!!

I don't know...maybe people who aren't dense.

> There might only be one, and it could be printed on anything you like and
> beautifully linen backed all you want, but collectors interested in pool
> have been passing on this crap since the ink on it was dry.

I didn't know that you were the spokesperson for billiard collectors. This
may appeal to someone who is into rare movie posters and couldn't care less
about pool. Or maybe you just don't know what you are talking about and it
will appeal to a collector of things billiards. That's the point of an
auction, anyone can win.

> Just because you've been convincing yourself that your one-of-a-kind
> paintings of Elvis on black velvet are rare, doesn't mean anyone is stupid
> enough to buy the schlock your hawking.

I don't collect Elvis, you must be thinking of someone else. I did see him
the other day at Chris's though.

Deno
-doesn't collect Kinkade


lfigueroa

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Dec 15, 2004, 9:34:10 AM12/15/04
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You've been hanging out with too many rug merchants.

No one is going to buy your Frog re-release -- or your other dreck -- at
the prices you put on them. Like a typical billiard player, all you want
to do is steal. And it looks to me that it was you that bought all baloney
about how special this poster is, getting stuck owning this white elephant
in the first place. You should put it back in your closet, only this time,
get your self some glue, because all it's worth is about the price of a good
wall paper.

Anyway, thanks for the auction alert. Reading your "Buy It Now" price was
worth a good laugh.

Lou Figueroa
doesn't collect "rare"
Elvis paintings on black velvet

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JAM

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Dec 15, 2004, 3:24:43 PM12/15/04
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Deno posts: "...This isn't the sort of thing that is printed cheaply on bad
paper, but rather a high quality piece of fine art...."

I really like the poster, Deno. I recently got a chance to view the DVD of
"The Hustler" which had trailers explaining the making of the movie. Mike
Massey displayed how some of the shots in the movie were done.

I looked around for that poster and found this. "Description: (1961) An
up-and-coming pool player plays a long-time champion in a single high-stakes
match. Paul Newman, Jackie Gleason, Piper Laurie, George C. Scott, Myron
McCormick. Dir. Robert Rossen. Great film from the 60's. (French) Folded 1982
Re-release."

I don't know what "Folded 1982 Re-release" means.

Have you had a chance to check out the DVD yet? It shows a minute or two of
the French version with the music and credits, which was kind of cool!

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I hope you get what you're looking for.
"L'Arnaqueur" is is definitely a collectible (IMO). Wish I had some extra
jellybeans laying around because I'd buy it. I know EXACTLY where I'd hang it
in my house, too! :>)

BTW, I got the ORIGINAL of TCOM poster when the movie first came out from a
good friend. Oddly, mine has the words "NEWMAN" and "CRUISE" in gray. Most of
the other posters I have seen show these words in red. Odd, huh?

JAM

Fast Larry

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Dec 15, 2004, 8:15:01 AM12/15/04
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Lou said:More desirable to who? It's a Frog re-release!!

There might only be one, and it could be printed on anything you like
and
beautifully linen backed all you want, but collectors interested in
pool
have been passing on this crap since the ink on it was dry.

Just because you've been convincing yourself that your one-of-a-kind
paintings of Elvis on black velvet are rare, doesn't mean anyone is
stupid
enough to buy the schlock your hawking.

Lou Figueroa

FL RESPONDS:
Not true Lou, there is a sucker born, every minute. People have bought
the Brooklyn Bridge and the Efile tower. In order to be a successful
fisher man you have to put bait in the water and hope a fish comes
along. There is always an asking price and a taking price. FL

Fast Larry

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Dec 15, 2004, 9:04:40 AM12/15/04
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Elvis lives in Atlanta, I run into him at Winn Dixie now and then.
What is he doing in Chicago. FL.

Deno

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Dec 15, 2004, 5:26:38 PM12/15/04
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You are one of the lucky ones to have the names be in Grey. Those are
the most rare and the originals. Everyone under the sun has the poster
with the names in red. I hope you have it linnen backed and out of any
direct sunlight.

The French re-release of The Hustler was in 1982. It was not a
blockbuster event and there weren't many posters made. Posters from
the 1960s original release are ubiquitous and can be had in good shape
between $200-$1000. The fact that Lou cited a poster that was mass
produced, and a different poster, to claim that mine has no value is so
funny I still chuckle about it. But then again, I can see where he is
coming from given that his Ginacue is worth $65 because it's a cue, and
there are other cues that sell for that much. I get it now.

Large movie posters were folded, not rolled. Getting the fold marks
out requires linnen backing, or some sort of mounting (not recommended.
However, doing so can be risky and they may not come out.

Deno

lfigueroa

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Dec 15, 2004, 8:28:05 PM12/15/04
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A turd on eBay, from Gigi the poodle herself, though linen-backed and
admittedly of limited availability, is still a turd, nonetheless.

Lou Figueroa
Deno must also collect
Jesse Barnes

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> You are one of the lucky ones to have the names be in Grey. Those are
> the most rare and the originals. Everyone under the sun has the poster

> with the names in red. I hope you have it linen backed and out of any

Deno J. Andrews

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Dec 15, 2004, 11:53:34 PM12/15/04
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It really doesn't surprise me that you are such the expert on doggie poo.
Deno


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lfigueroa

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Dec 16, 2004, 8:45:37 AM12/16/04
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No expert... I just know crap when I see it.

Lou Figueroa
but Deno the rug merchant
will still try and sell it to you

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JoeBLow

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Dec 16, 2004, 4:07:59 PM12/16/04
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yeah, they are so rare that they can be had for about 65-75 bucks on ebay.

delusional.


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Deno J. Andrews

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Yes they are rare...it doesn't mean they can't be found. Do you think that
ebay is for the non-rare only? And the poster you saw is folded and has not
been preserved. Chances are those folds won't come out now.

Deno

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lfigueroa

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listen to the rug merchant, chanting in the bazar...

Lou Figueroa

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Deno J. Andrews

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Dec 16, 2004, 11:13:47 PM12/16/04
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If you have evidence to the contrary I'll take a look at it. Otherwise,
drop your bait in another pond.
Deno

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Donald Tees

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Dec 17, 2004, 8:21:14 AM12/17/04
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Aha! Is this the baited breath that everyone keeps talking about?

Donald
;<)

lfigueroa

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Dec 17, 2004, 10:03:07 AM12/17/04
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Your current auction, for one... the price you wanted for the signed
Byrne's... having your shill put up your Jansco poster while you played dumb
about it... give me a minute or two and I'm sure I could come up with some
other recent examples :-)

Lou Figueroa
well, he asked

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Deno J. Andrews

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Dec 17, 2004, 10:44:02 AM12/17/04
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Since when are you the resident expert on billiard collectibles and their
respective prices? You are the guy who complained to me about the price of
a Chas Clements case! If you don't like the prices, don't bid. You are
just mad about the Jansco poster because you wanted it, but I wasn't willing
to give it away to your for your St. Louis hustle price. If you want
anything of mine lou you are going to have to pay for it. If you can't deal
with that, find it elsewhere.
Deno
-can't wait for his Clements case


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lfigueroa

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Dec 17, 2004, 4:27:14 PM12/17/04
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I was mad about the Jansco poster? So here we go again, Deno making shit up
out of thin air.

You once told me you had a "Johnston City" poster in your collection and I
said., "If you ever get tired of it, let me know -- I might be
interested." THAT was the total extent of our discussion. A couple of
years later, your shill puts it up for auction (while you act as though you
know nothing about the poster), and it turns out not to be a Johnson City
poster at all, but something else entirely, which I wasn't even marginally
interested in, other than to later note your deception.

Same for the Chas case -- I told you I thought his asking price was high,
but we were still able to come to a deal. It was certainly not a complaint,
since the guy worked with me on the price and I ended up with a beautiful
case. But of course, as is becoming more and more frequent here, you just
make shit up when you end up cornered on your bs.

deno, I don't want anything of yours and certainly would never deal with a
lying, unscrupulous, pompous fool like you in the first place. Your items
are crap, your prices ridiculous, and the reality of it is that you're not
much better than a bazaar rug merchant, peddling your crappy throw-offs,
hoping to land a sucker.

Have a nice day :-)

Lou Figueroa

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Deno J. Andrews

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> You once told me you had a "Johnston City" poster in your collection and I
> said., "If you ever get tired of it, let me know -- I might be
> interested."

Whatever you need to tell yourself...

> It was certainly not a complaint...

Sure it was.

> deno, I don't want anything of yours

You sure spend enough time obsessing about it all. I'm sorry I don't give
stuff away lou. When I sell stuff, I sell it at a premium because it is
good stuff. Nobody has ever complained about it. I'm not interested in $5
1pocket lou.

> and certainly would never deal with a lying, unscrupulous, pompous fool
like you in the first place.

I know, because you are always hanging out in the pool room waiting for a
sucker. I know what I have and will sell it for what it is worth. And you
have lied about plenty- guess it takes one to know one...

> Your items are crap, your prices ridiculous, and the reality of it is that
you're not much better than a bazaar rug merchant, peddling your crappy
throw-offs,
> hoping to land a sucker.

I happen to know some rug merchants who are pretty nice people. I'll take
that as a compliment, thank you. And you should talk about waiting to land
a sucker- it's your entire pool room existence.

Deno
-having a nice day


lfigueroa

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Deno, you are a liar.

You lied about having a Johnston City poster.
You lied when you acted uninvolved while your shill put the poster up for
sale.
And you lied about my interest in it.

You lied about the Chas case and are too stupid to realize that I've
probably shown it to over three dozen people on the group and you a lone are
claiming I complained about it.

You lied about having heart and proved it when you wouldn't give me a 50%
spot at your game, while I offered the same percentage at mine.

When desperate, you lie even more, making up unnamed sources, and lying
about me and also Joe.

And probably the only reason you're pissed right now is because -- besides
being a compulsive liar caught with your pants down -- you can't sell your
junk at the stupid prices you're asking and everyone can see the little
emperor has no cloths on.

And yet, for all your claims about being sooo smart, you get sucked into
buying a rusted out breadbox of a death trap to drive your wife and baby
girl around in because you're too cheap to put them in a safe vehicle,
preferring at their cost, peril and comfort to perpetuate your image as an
eccentric. What did the salesman tell you, Deno? That it was a "rare"
vehicle? That it was one of the "most sought" after VW microbuses? That it
was "highly collectable"?

I feel sorry for you, but especially for your family :-( and I only hope
your over inflated ego and pathological lying doesn't end up harming them.

Lou Figueroa

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Deno J. Andrews

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Dec 17, 2004, 9:44:20 PM12/17/04
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Wow lou, get a grip man, you are losing it. You are supposed to take two a
day, not one. When you showed me the Chas case you complained about Chas's
prices. You can think whatever you want, but I remember thinking to myself
"what a nit." As far our almost game man, if you didn't make such as ass of
yourself claiming to play close to me, then you would have had your spot.
However, once a nit always a nit. You have got 10 on 50 anytime you get the
beer nuts again to think you play close to me. As far as a 50% game at one
pocket, you never offered. I told you that I will take 10-5 for whatever
amount you want to come up here with. You are the one without the heart,
even though you play close to me. My family rides around in a Mercedes
Benz, not the old VW which was my toy. If people don't buy the stuff I have
for sale at the price I want to get, I don't care. I know what I would sell
it for and I wouldn't take a penny less. If you don't like it, too bad, go
elsewhere. Don't feel sorry for me or my family lou, feel sorry for your
wife.
Deno
- wonders why lou cares so much about me and my ego?


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Mark0

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Dec 17, 2004, 10:05:03 PM12/17/04
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Now now Lou. If you keep this up you're going to run him off (again).

Mark0 <--more popcorn please


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Fast Larry

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Dec 17, 2004, 11:52:00 PM12/17/04
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No she yit, pass the pop corn, this is better than the afternoon soap
operas.

lfigueroa

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Dec 18, 2004, 10:55:48 AM12/18/04
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Mark0, he's too much of an attention whore to ever leave for good and I know
for a fact that he has lots of other overpriced crap he wants to "alert" us
to :-)

Lou Figueroa

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lfigueroa

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Dec 18, 2004, 10:54:57 AM12/18/04
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Well, like I said, you are a liar and there's ample evidence to prove it.
Like here:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.sport.billiard/browse_thread/thread/5711d00606d053c/0d7f66f378bb03ce?q=tommy+bahama&_done=%2Fgroup%2Frec.sport.billiard%2Fsearch%3Fgroup%3Drec.sport.billiard%26q%3Dtommy+bahama%26qt_g%3D1%26searchnow%3DSearch+this+group%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#0d7f66f378bb03ce

where I repeatedly told you I never claimed to play "close" to your speed.

And here:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.sport.billiard/browse_frm/thread/ba2a4af75ff8604f/6995930145b09ae8?tvc=1&q=10-5+deno&scrollSave=&&d#6995930145b09ae8

where I clearly offered you 10-5, here or in Chicago, and you even
acknowledged the offer, promising to play for "jars of jellybeans..."

If you peruse these you can also get a good laugh when Deno offers a signed
copy of McGoorty for $1200 -- another rip off offer from Deno the rug
merchant.

Lou Figueroa

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lfigueroa

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Dec 18, 2004, 10:59:35 AM12/18/04
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And why would you be sorry for my wife? I'm intelligent, charming, good
looking, a great cook, have plenty of money, I love her to death
...and I'm 5' 9" ;-)

Lou Figueroa

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Fast Larry

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Dec 18, 2004, 3:01:12 PM12/18/04
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BOYS, YOU HAVE NOW BOTH EQUALLY INSULTED EACH OTHER. May I now suggest
you call it a draw and move on to something constructive.

Never let the sun go down on your anger.-mid 17th century. "In your
anger do not sin; Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry,
and do not give the devil a foothold." (Ephesians 4:26 "A gentle answer
turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger." (Proverbs 29:11

Hatred does not cease by hatred but only by love, this is the eternal
rule. Budda. 600 years later Jesus Christ would say virtually the same
thing.
It takes two to make a quarrel. -early 18th century

Fast Larry

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Dec 18, 2004, 3:17:20 PM12/18/04
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At this time of Christmans, any man, who does not have love in his
heart for all his fellow men, even the evil yap wolf, is a man with a
dead soul. FL.

Deno J. Andrews

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Dec 18, 2004, 5:51:59 PM12/18/04
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I know you are a liar. Because right there in the silly thread I said I
would take the spot here in Chicago. In fact, it was June 26th @ 1:24pm and
it was post 58 in the thread. You never offered it here like you just wrote
you did. What does the nit have to say for himself now? You offered the
spot in St. Louis. You are a liar. As far as what I ask for anything on
ebay, it is not your concern. The fact that you obsess over it makes me
laugh my butt off. Get a life lou and quit obsessing about mine.
Deno


lfigueroa

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Dec 19, 2004, 11:01:51 AM12/19/04
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You really are that stupid, aren't you.

You asked for 10-5, I said you got it:.
#57 "Come to St. Louis and you got 10-5."

Then you specified that it had to be in Chicago (I also suppose it'll have
to be at your room, on your table, huh?) saying:
#58 "Come to Chicago and I'll take it, and make it worth your trip."

So I told you that I had just been in Chicago, but would let you know the
next time I would be there:
#59 "I was just there a couple of weeks ago. I'll let you know."

So what's your malfunction? What part of that did you not understand?

You've got 10-5, in Chicago, and I take it you want to bet high, because you
said:
#61 " I don't mind losing a few jars of jellybeans..."

And as far as eBay is concerned, once you make a post here to alert the
group about what you've got up for auction, it does become my business --
and everyone else's here -- you dolt. You don't want anyone's comments on
your ignorant prices, don't post it here. Or do you just want the fawning
comments like, "I really like the poster, Deno. I hope you get what you're
looking for. 'L'Arnaqueur' is definitely a collectible (IMO). Wish I had
some extra jellybeans laying around because I'd buy it." I would expect
that you will also be telling this person that your auction is none of their
concern, right?

And believe me, your life is no obsession of mine. Your posts here just
make it a passing amusement, imaging the Chicago rug merchant riding around
like a clown in a magenta jacket behind the wheel of his VW microbus. I'm
sure Ringling Brothers could use you in one of their acts the next time they
come to your city :-)

Lou Figueroa

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JAM

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LFigueroa posts to Deno: "You don't want anyone's comments on your ignorant

prices, don't post it here. Or do you just want the fawning comments like, 'I
really like the poster, Deno. I hope you get what you're looking for.
'L'Arnaqueur' is definitely a collectible (IMO). Wish I had some extra
jellybeans laying around because I'd buy it.'...Your posts here just make it a

passing amusement, imaging the Chicago rug merchant riding around like a clown
in a magenta jacket behind the wheel of his VW microbus. I'm sure Ringling
Brothers could use you in one of their acts the next time they come to your
city."

RSB, Republic of Sucker-punchers and Bullies!

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I've got a wooden chest in my living
room, hand-carved under water (?) pre-WW II, worth $10,000. If I could get the
dough, I'd sell it in a heartbeat. Finding the right market or buyer willing
to pay that for it is difficult, if not impossible. But I ain't going to let
it go for under its value, so I hang onto it. However, I'd rather have the
dough because it doesn't do me much good as a TV stand.

Deno has a piece of art form in pristine condition, a treasure keepsake to a
pool collector. He attempts to seek this market, but is condemned by Lou F.

Before you respond, please do so under your own name, rather than trolling it
out to a nine-ball-dot-com type of vehicle. That seems to be the norm in this
NG. Sucker-punchers afraid to post under their own name, the dregs and cancer
of this NG.

I wish Deno luck in finding a buyer for his poster. If I had an extra 4 dimes
laying around, I'd sure like to have it. I happen to have the perfect spot for
it. If you don't sell it, Deno, and decide to hang onto it, I may be coming
into a chunk of disposable change in the next year or two and would be willing
to pay the asking price.

JAM

lfigueroa

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JAM says, "If I had an extra 4 dimes laying around, I'd sure like to have
it... I may be coming into a chunk of disposable change in the next year or

two and would be willing to pay the asking price."

This is why bazaar rug merchants will never go out of business.

Lou Figueroa
what is a nine-ball-dot-com?

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Jim

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Oh Lou, what is your real name since JAM sez you aren't using it?

Jim

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JAM

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>Lou Figueroa
>what is a nine-ball-dot-com?

One thing about YOU, LOU, which separates you from all the rest of the clowns,
jokers, and trolls.

I'd rather be a "bazaar rug merchant" than a man who only sees the worst in
things, which seems to be Lou's specialty. I'd hate to live in such a
gloom-and-doom world.

Money don't mean squat if you ain't happy, Pal. You make your own heaven and
hell right here on earth. Sometimes the grass is greener on the other side,
unless you allow yourself to piss on it.

JAM

Deno J. Andrews

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"lfigueroa" <lfig...@att.net> wrote some back peddling about his game
offer-

Well Lou, I never heard from you the next time you were in Chicago...You
even came up for the RSB thing and avoided the issue like the plague.

> And as far as eBay is concerned, once you make a post here to alert the
> group about what you've got up for auction, it does become my business --

You mean your obsession. I don't care what you think Lou, the rest of the
world isn't cheap pool hall stock...

> You don't want anyone's comments on your ignorant prices, don't post it
here.

I'll post what I want, and I don't care what you have to say about it.

> And believe me, your life is no obsession of mine.

Of course it is, and nobody would ever believe otherwise.

> make it a passing amusement, imaging the Chicago rug merchant riding
around
> like a clown in a magenta jacket behind the wheel of his VW microbus.

You sure do know a lot about me for someone who's not obsessed. I think you
need some real help.

> I'm sure Ringling Brothers could use you in one of their acts the next
time they come to your city :-)

Hahaha, that was hilarious lol, you are a funny guy lou...

Deno


Deno J. Andrews

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JAM, you are wasting your time. lou knows everything. The poster is a nice
piece. He thinks that I am asking $4000 at auction for it because he is an
idiot of the highest order. That is the BIN price...retail if you will.
The reserve is just a little more than the opening price for the auction,
which is slightly less than it is worth. lou can't comprehend this sort of
difference because he spends too much time obsessing over me rather than
thinking. I know deep down inside he wishes he had and could wear a purple
jacket, but it's just not in his pre-shot routine I guess :). I guess he
will just have to live vicariously through me as he has secretly done for so
long now :(
Deno
-doesn't want to be lou


Fred Agnir

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"JAM" <jama...@aol.comnojunk> wrote

> Before you respond, please do so under your own name, rather than trolling
it
> out to a nine-ball-dot-com type of vehicle. That seems to be the norm in
this
> NG. Sucker-punchers afraid to post under their own name, the dregs and
cancer
> of this NG.
>

Lou Figueroa isn't his real name???

Fred <~~~ thought I knew him...


JAM

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>Lou Figueroa isn't his real name???
>
>Fred <~~~ thought I knew him...
>

In the words of The Washington Post, Fred, if you don't get it, you don't get
it. ;>)

JAM

Jtiche

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I've got a condom dispensing machine that I recovered from the back of a
bathroom door at an old Esso station, the old three for a quarter deal. This
is a real piece of Americana, I'll trade you even. There might even be some
left in the machine but I can't guarantee you they are still dependable being
as they are so old.

JAM

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I still call Exxon "Esso" from time to time.
I've got a life-size Dino the Dinosaur from Sinclair Gasoline! I wonder if
that's worth anything these days!

I sold an autographed bat of Cal Ripkin, Jr., for $500 on eBay along with
pictures taken at the game where he broke the record at Camden Yards.

I also sold a used Schon cue stick for 600 bucks to a pool room owner near
Chicago who bought it for exhibition purposes to be placed in a case. It
wasn't worth a nickel to me because the "hit" wasn't right, but I enjoyed
receiving $600 for it.

Anything and everything goes on eBay, and hopefully for the asking price.

A friend of mine is currently selling a collection of assorted older cue sticks
on eBay. Recently, several regulars on the PP 9-Ball Tour paid 6- to $700 each
for older Timmy Scruggs and Joss cues, and each one was worth in the
neighborhood of $2,000 because of the craftsmanship on these highly decorated
cues.

He's got an old Rambow that was altered by Helmstetter with hand-carved ivory
on the butt end, currently for sale on eBay.

Some may think they're only a piece of old wood, worthy of fireplace material,
and to others, they are masterpieces.

One man's treasure is another man's junk, as they say! ;>)

JAM

Jtiche

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>One man's treasure is another man's junk, as they say! ;>)

>JAM

How true. I'm in the market for a female companion discarded by some young
stud, one that would like to try an older guy for a change. 8-)


lfigueroa

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er, I dunno. I guess I'll just write this one off as another nonsensical
rant from JAM... it's the only explanation that makes sense :-)

Lou Figueroa
the last time I checked

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lfigueroa

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I think you've been reading too many fortune cookies.

Lou Figueroa
a pretty happy fellow

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lfigueroa

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You really are stupider than a door knob:

1. I haven't been to Chicago, since THIS summer, when I made you the offer,
and

2. I did come up for the RSB thing, in OCT of 2003, almost a year before,
you schmuck.

So the bottom line, as much as you'd like to sweep in under one of your
over-priced carpets is: Deno is a liar... a bad liar... but a liar,
nonetheless.

You claim not to care what I have to say about your auctions, but yesterday
your panties were all in a bunch, ranting that it was none of my business.

And all know about you is what everybody else here knows about you: that
you are a blow hard no-heart magenta wearing lying 3C player who loves to
perpetuate his self-image as an eccentric and rip people off with overpriced
second rate billiard junk.

Lou Figueroa
did I miss anything?

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> "lfigueroa" <lfig...@att.net> wrote some back peddling about his game
> offer-
>
> Well Lou, I never heard from you the next time you were in Chicago...You
> even came up for the RSB thing and avoided the issue like the plague.
>
> > And as far as eBay is concerned, once you make a post here to alert the
> > group about what you've got up for auction, it does become my

lfigueroa

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It's me.

Lou Figueroa
just checked
his driver's license
to be sure

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JohnA(Kent,WA)

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"JAM" <jama...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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What happened here???

Lou asks "what is a nine-ball-dot-com?" plus some other comments.

Jam responds by removing all of his comments but leaving the one question
"what is a nine-ball-dot-com?" She responds with three paragraphs that don't
seem to answer his question???


--
JohnA(Kent,WA)


lfigueroa

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Dec 20, 2004, 4:17:45 PM12/20/04
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JohnA, this is SOP for JAM: a nonsensical rant out of the blue.

Now IF I had to hazard a guess about what this is all about, I'm going guess
that there is a site called something like "nineball.com" with a discussion
board or chat room where she's taken umbrage at something someone has posted
and she believes it is me operating under an alias.

But that that's just a guess. Otherwise, she's just being her same old
whacko self.

FTR, I don't use aliases and have never used a site called anything like
nineball.com. But then 99.9% of the regulars probably already knew that :-)

Lou Figueroa
but there's always one out there...

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JAM

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Lou F. posts to JohnA: "...this is SOP for JAM: a nonsensical rant out of the
blue."

After hearing about your act from the homeboys in St. Louis, "rant" seems a
more fitting trait for you, Sweet Pea! How many pool rooms are you barred from
now due to your sparkling personality?

Lou F. continues: "Now IF I had to hazard a guess...there is a site called
something like 'nineball.com' ...where she's taken umbrage at something someone
has posted and she believes it is me operating under an alias...."

Keep guessing, Pal. Never said it was you. I was giving a heads-up for the
trolls who seek to hide their identity by acquiring an e-mail account from a
nine-ball-dot-com-type website, as is customary on RSB.

AND as I posted previously, in the words of The Washington Post, if you don't
get it, then you don't get it!

Lou F. continues: "But that that's just a guess. Otherwise, she's just being


her same old whacko self."

Oh, the sticks and stones, will they ever cease!

JAM

lfigueroa

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Only been barred from one and it had become a dump. Had nothing to do with
a rant, though. But it does make one wonder about your boy's history of
being barred from various pool halls across the country, for some very
colorful deeds.

Anywhos, I continued to play there out of loyalty to the owner, who passed
away several years ago. The wife and kids took it over and about a year
ago, and when I finally complained about how bad their tables were playing
(to say nothing of the fact that I had to buy my own set of balls because
theirs were never cleaned and filthy; that if I wanted a table cleaned I had
to brush it myself: and that there would be debris and food all over their
carpet for weeks at a time) they asked me to leave.

Now if you want to hear about a rant, I can tell you all about the owner's
son stomping out of the pool hall, after crying to mommy about how mean Lou
was to him ;-)

In any case, that was almost a year ago, and it was the best thing that ever
happen to my pool game. But it is good to see you, like you "buddy in art"
Deno, are still in the anonymous sources business.

Oh, and thanks for the explanation, though what you did still makes no
sense.

Lou Figueroa

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Mark0

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"JohnA(Kent,WA)" <joh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
snip

> What happened here???
>
> Lou asks "what is a nine-ball-dot-com?" plus some other comments.
>
> Jam responds by removing all of his comments but leaving the one question
> "what is a nine-ball-dot-com?" She responds with three paragraphs that
don't
> seem to answer his question???
>
>
> --
> JohnA(Kent,WA)
>
>

And this surprises you for some reason???

Mark0


===


Fast Larry

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Lou, anybody who aint never been thrown out of, and or bared from a
pool hall, aint no real pool player. He aint go no papers, he's a
pussy yuppie. She yit, dey toss you out, dey cool as long as you did
not kill or shoot nobody or steal from them, you walk back in 3 months
later and its business as usual. All they want is the money.When I
came up as a kid in a caddy shack, I got fired and ran off the course
once a month. When It rained I came back. I have been tossed out of
and bared from a couple of pool halls and it was not my fault, she yit
happens.
Twice I have been picked up by security guards in the Golden Nuggett in
Vegas and deposited on the the Freemont curb. After you get over the
first one, it aint no big deal. It's like getting kicked off of an
internet board, big friggen deal, life goes on. You give em da Italian
Salute and walk away with yo head held high. FL

Deno J. Andrews

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Wow, got barred from a dump! That's not easy...
Deno


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Deno J. Andrews

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"lfigueroa" <lfig...@att.net> wrote in message
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> You claim not to care what I have to say about your auctions, but
yesterday
> your panties were all in a bunch, ranting that it was none of my business.

Yours are in the bunch lou. I haven't seen someone this obsessed over me in
a long time. Get a life lou.

> And all know about you is what everybody else here knows about you: that
> you are a blow hard no-heart magenta wearing lying 3C player who loves to
> perpetuate his self-image as an eccentric and rip people off with
overpriced
> second rate billiard junk.

lou, we all know you want to be me so badly that you just can't handle it
anymore. Get a life.

PLONK


JAM

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LouFigueroa posts: "Only been barred from one, and it had become a dump...But
it does make one wonder about your boy's history...."

When getting beat upon, Lou, rather than taking your lumps like a man, you have
a tendency to attack your enemy's loved ones, instead of going right for the
source, reflecting your sucker-punching tendencies, a trait of a yellow-bellied
coward.

LouF continues: "Now if you want to hear about a rant, I can tell you all


about the owner's son stomping out of the pool hall, after crying to mommy

about how mean Lou was to him...."

Another one of your trademark embellishments, Lou? The way you come down on
people in this NG with your negative and pessimistic responses, I wouldn't want
the likes of you hanging out in any pool room I owned. Good riddance, I say!
You're a miserable crabcake.

L.F. throws a sucker-punch: "In any case...it is good to see you, like your
'buddy in art' Deno, are still in the anonymous sources business."

Talk about cryptic posts. I'm about as anonymous as you are in this NG. I'm
not in the mood this morning, Doll Face, to engage in a pissing contest.

LFigueroa concludes: "Oh, and thanks for the explanation, though what you did
still makes no sense."

Again, for the third time, the one distinguishing quality about you, to your
credit. Since you don't get it, you don't get it, but there may be a few
ORANGutangs who do.

JAM

lfigueroa

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You're right... took me a long time, but it was worth it ;-)

Lou Figueroa

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lfigueroa

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"PLONK" ?

But, but, but... Deno, how will you find out about my next trip to Chicago
and get a chance to bet all them jars of jelly beans?

Lou Figueroa
another one bites the dust

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lfigueroa

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My reference to anonymous sources was where you said, "After hearing about
your act from the homeboys in St. Louis..." Is that not anonymous? Or
would you care to name names? Because if you'd rather not name names, then
I'd be happy to tell you what my anonymous sources have to say on a whole
range of topics I think you'd find highly interesting and the group very
entertaining. Your call.

Lou Figueroa
thinks it's time
to trot out
his own
anonymous sources

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JAM

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LFigueroa posts: "...Or would you care to name names? Because if you'd rather

not name names, then I'd be happy to tell you what my anonymous sources have to
say on a whole range of topics I think you'd find highly interesting and the
group very entertaining. Your call....thinks it's time to trot out his own
anonymous sources."

Take your best shot, Pal. This is what makes RSB NG unique, thanks to its --
how did you put it again, Lou? -- VETERAN posters.

Personally, I'd rather spend my time today enjoying the Christmas spirit.
We're off to a local nursing home to trim a Christmas tree in Chevy Chase. A
couple of the old-timer residents there enjoy playing pool on the in-house
Gandy. The "pool player with a history," as you labeled him, is going to spend
the day there hanging out and spreading the Christmas cheer to a few kindred
souls.

'Tis the season to be jolly, unless you're Lou F., the VETERAN poster from the
Repository of Sucker-punchers and Bullies.

Fa-la-la-la-la, la la la la!

JAM

HopsNBarley

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lfigueroa

> you are a blow hard no-heart magenta wearing lying 3C player who loves to
> perpetuate his self-image as an eccentric and rip people off with
overpriced
> second rate billiard junk.

Stop holding back Lou, tell us how you really feel....

Glenn


lfigueroa

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I prefer to keep it polite :-)

Lou Figueroa

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John O'Malley

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Deno J. Andrews wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3860644038
>
> It has adorned my closet long enough.
> Deno

"The poster is approximately 47"x65", or four feet by five-and-a-half
feet."

how many inches are in a foot in your world? seems like you're tryin to
squeeze an inch in here & there.... kinda like when you were tryin to
sneak on the rides at six flags?


"The poster is quite dark and morbid, and did I mention GIANT."

how small of a midget do you have to be to consider 5'5" to be
"GIANT"??????

lfigueroa

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JOM says: ".... kinda like when you were tryin to sneak on the rides at six
flags?"

This probably would have been much more recently than Deno might care to
admit.

Lou Figueroa
glad he's plonked me
and won't see THAT one :-o

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pltrgyst

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On 22 Dec 2004 12:03:16 -0800, "John O'Malley" <muz...@nineball.com> wrote:

>"The poster is approximately 47"x65", or four feet by five-and-a-half
>feet."
>
>how many inches are in a foot in your world? seems like you're tryin to
>squeeze an inch in here & there...

Four feet is 48 inches, and five and a half feet is 66 inches. Maybe you should
consult a dictionary for the meaning of the word "approximately."

>"The poster is quite dark and morbid, and did I mention GIANT."
>
>how small of a midget do you have to be to consider 5'5" to be
>"GIANT"??????

47" x 65" could reasonably be termed "giant" for a poster. The average poster is
approximately (there's that word again) 27" x 40".

How substandard does your English have to be to use a construct such as "how
small of a midget"? Oh, wait -- I didn't notice your last name. Sorry.

-- Larry (the slow [Welsh] one)

John O'Malley

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In my dictionary approximately means almost exact. I'd like to see your
face if you ordered a $4,000 cue that was supposed to be 19 oz 13mm 58"
& it came back 18oz 12mm & 57", I'm sure you would understand & say
that's ok it's "approximately" what i ordered.


"How substandard does your English have to be to use a construct such
as "how
small of a midget"? Oh, wait -- I didn't notice your last name. Sorry.
-- Larry (the slow [Welsh] one)"


How sad that you automatically have to resort to racist remarks when
this had nothing to do with you. Clearly shows what kind of WT you are.
"White Trash"

Deno J. Andrews

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"John O'Malley" <muz...@nineball.com> wrote in message
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> "The poster is approximately 47"x65", or four feet by five-and-a-half
> feet."

That's why I listed the inches first. The extra inch on each side is made
up by the linnen backing, which is larger than the poster.

> how many inches are in a foot in your world? seems like you're tryin to
> squeeze an inch in here & there.... kinda like when you were tryin to
> sneak on the rides at six flags?

I am still doing that.

> how small of a midget do you have to be to consider 5'5" to be
"GIANT"??????

I guess a pretty small midget.

Deno


pltrgyst

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Dec 22, 2004, 11:50:05 PM12/22/04
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On 22 Dec 2004 15:45:07 -0800, "John O'Malley" <muz...@nineball.com> wrote:

>In my dictionary approximately means almost exact.

"Almost" is a relative term; as such, without context, it is essentially
meaningless. By most ordinary standards, 47/48 or 65/66 are plenty close enough
to be termed approximately equal, especially when the issue is continuous,
rather than discrete, data.

>"How substandard does your English have to be to use a construct such
>as "how small of a midget"? Oh, wait -- I didn't notice your last name. Sorry.
>

>How sad that you automatically have to resort to racist remarks....

Racist? Hardly, since I suspect we're predominantly the same race. I chalk it up
to having been coerced into spending today's lunch hour in the local
IRA-supporting Irish pub, which always leaves a bad taste in my mouth (despite
the Guinness or Murphy's).

-- Larry (the slow one, who'll be in Ireland next week)

lfigueroa

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Dec 24, 2004, 12:59:59 PM12/24/04
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3860644038

Auction over... not a single solitary nibble. Not even a one at
"wholesale."

Lou Figueroa
just maybe it's not "worth"
what he thinks it's worth

"Deno J. Andrews" <denoa...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

news:UDkxd.870$F67...@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
> JAM, you are wasting your time. lou knows everything. The poster is a
nice
> piece. He thinks that I am asking $4000 at auction for it because he is
an
> idiot of the highest order. That is the BIN price...retail if you will.
> The reserve is just a little more than the opening price for the auction,
> which is slightly less than it is worth. lou can't comprehend this sort
of
> difference because he spends too much time obsessing over me rather than
> thinking. I know deep down inside he wishes he had and could wear a
purple
> jacket, but it's just not in his pre-shot routine I guess :). I guess he
> will just have to live vicariously through me as he has secretly done for
so
> long now :(
> Deno
> -doesn't want to be lou
>
>

Vader93490

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Dec 26, 2004, 7:27:20 PM12/26/04
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>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3860644038
>
>Auction over... not a single solitary nibble. Not even a one at
>"wholesale."
>
>Lou Figueroa
>just maybe it's not "worth"
>what he thinks it's worth

No bids, but it did have quite a number of views according to the counter so
there was at least some interest in the item. If the poster is as valuable as
he claims it is then perhaps the timing of his auction may have hurt him
somewhat as it is currently the Christmas season and lots of folks are broke.

Perhaps Deno should try to run the auction again in a few weeks... mid- to late
January possibly... and see if he gets a "nibble" then, quoting you.

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