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Jeffrey James Price

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Apr 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/19/96
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So a day after NC State signs the lowest paid basketball coach in
the ACC the N&O runs a Sports cover story how basketball coaches are
paid too much, with Herb Sendek as the top story.

Come on guys this is ridiculous. Oh and then they mention how Deano
gives the money off his Nike contract to the school....like Dean doesn't
have enought income from other sources.

<sigh> NC State will never get fair treatment from the N&O until we
start our own school of journalism.
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Scott B. Riddle

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Apr 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/19/96
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On 19 Apr 1996 12:42:12 GMT, jjp...@unity.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey James
Price) wrote:


>So a day after NC State signs the lowest paid basketball coach in
>the ACC the N&O runs a Sports cover story how basketball coaches are
>paid too much, with Herb Sendek as the top story.

Maybe the message was that if the youngest and lowest paid ACC coach
makes as much as he does, the others must be grossly overpaid?

As for the merits, a big name coach many times means bit time
recruits, television and, most importantly, booster dollars. But, I'm
also for hrowing a hundred or so to the players. Share the wealth a
little.

>Come on guys this is ridiculous. Oh and then they mention how Deano
>gives the money off his Nike contract to the school....like Dean doesn't
>have enought income from other sources.

So, the point is now how unfair it is that Dean can make as much as he
does, and give part of it to the school?


><sigh> NC State will never get fair treatment from the N&O until we
>start our own school of journalism.

I didn't see the article (is it at Nando?), but how is it unfair? You
didn't comment on the merits of the story, just some unfair treatment
to NCSU. But, who are they supposed to use as examples if not the
local coach with his new deal, or the other area coaches? Was it
somehow unfair to Sendek, but not other coaches?

. . . .

Scott

Atlanta Tar Heel Home Page
Local UNC Alumni Activities

http://www.mindspring.com/~oneatl

Jeffrey James Price

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Apr 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/20/96
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In article <3177c654...@news.atl.mindspring.com>, one...@atl.mindspring.com (Scott B. Riddle) writes:
|>Maybe the message was that if the youngest and lowest paid ACC coach
|>makes as much as he does, the others must be grossly overpaid?
|>
Of course they never mention that.

|>As for the merits, a big name coach many times means bit time
|>recruits, television and, most importantly, booster dollars. But, I'm
|>also for hrowing a hundred or so to the players. Share the wealth a
|>little.

They don't mention this as well.

|>>Come on guys this is ridiculous. Oh and then they mention how Deano
|>>gives the money off his Nike contract to the school....like Dean doesn't
|>>have enought income from other sources.
|>
|>So, the point is now how unfair it is that Dean can make as much as he
|>does, and give part of it to the school?

Nope..they painted this in a good light..saying Deano was great for giving
the money back..they didn't disclose how much he made off of other deals.
Just the Nike money he gave back.

|>I didn't see the article (is it at Nando?), but how is it unfair? You
|>didn't comment on the merits of the story, just some unfair treatment
|>to NCSU. But, who are they supposed to use as examples if not the
|>local coach with his new deal, or the other area coaches? Was it
|>somehow unfair to Sendek, but not other coaches?

Because the didn't talk about the other coaches...just Sendek and State.
Heck today on the 5th page they mention Kennedy's $500,000+ salary which
is almost TWICE Sendeks (if Kennedy's figure included endorsments). Now
you tell me what is unfair?

Christopher Chapman

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Apr 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/20/96
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In article <4lb9qp$i...@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>,

Jeffrey James Price <jjp...@eos.ncsu.edu> wrote:
>
>In article <3177c654...@news.atl.mindspring.com>, one...@atl.mindspring.com (Scott B. Riddle) writes:
>|>Maybe the message was that if the youngest and lowest paid ACC coach
>|>makes as much as he does, the others must be grossly overpaid?
>|>
>Of course they never mention that.
>

Jeff,

I can understand Wolfpack paranoia from the Valvano era about the
News and Observer, but I read this article, and I though is was
a reach to construe it as an attack on Sendek or NCSU. Basically
the headline asked if Sendek was overpaid? They then dwelt on
two facts

a) Sendek makes a lot of money compared to the "average" working
stiff - $300K vs. $30K for teachers, electricians, etc.

b) Sendek is, and the article mentioned this explicitly, paid less
than many other coaches, who are admittely older at well-established. The
N&O specifically noted that Pitino and Calipari are paid close to
$1 million a year, and that Dean Smith gets $137,000 from UNC, plus
radio and Tv, which admittely they didn't quantify and $300,000 from
Nike. They noted that Coach K's contract, with Duke is private, but
that Nike gives him $375K a year, plus stock options, plus a $1 million
initial signing bonus. During the whole coaching search, the N&O
was very upfront about coaches' pay, noting that Kelvin Sampson gets
about $400K a year at Oklahoma, and that Les had a package of about
$350K.

I really think it is a reach to construe this article as an attack
on NCSU and Sendek, particularly when in the same sports section they
had articles about Sendek's impressive work habits on his first day
on the job (in the office at 4:30 am) and about how he accompanied
Marco Harrison to the hospital and stayed for several hours until
he was sure there was no danger to Harrison from his fainting spell.
I just don't see what all the fuss is about.

>Because the didn't talk about the other coaches...just Sendek and State.

The article specifically mentioned several other coaches, including
Pitino, Calipari, K and Smith, and explicitlyh mentioned that Sendek
is paid much less than many Div. 1 men's coaches

ho...@mail.utexas.edu

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Apr 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/22/96
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In article <4lbggi$2...@newz.oit.unc.edu>, ccha...@email.unc.edu (Christopher Chapman) says:


>N&O specifically noted that Pitino and Calipari are paid close to
>$1 million a year, and that Dean Smith gets $137,000 from UNC, plus
>radio and Tv, which admittely they didn't quantify and $300,000 from
>Nike. They noted that Coach K's contract, with Duke is private, but
>that Nike gives him $375K a year, plus stock options, plus a $1 million
>initial signing bonus.

Did they break down Pitino's, Calipari's, or any other coaches' salaries by
source, like they did for Dean, or did they leave the implication that
these guys are paid one million from their academic institutions? That
would be a little (ahem) misleading. They get much of their salaries from
endorsements, too. Did the paper make that clear? And there are several
other coaches that may not reach the one million mark that also get the
bulk of their salaries from shoe contracts and endorsements.

Scott H.

<ho...@mail.utexas.edu>

Curt Phillips

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Apr 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/23/96
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In article <4lf6f6$g...@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, ho...@mail.utexas.edu wrote:
>In article <4lbggi$2...@newz.oit.unc.edu>, ccha...@email.unc.edu (Christopher Chapman) says:

>>N&O specifically noted that Pitino and Calipari are paid close to
>>$1 million a year, and that Dean Smith gets $137,000 from UNC, plus
>>radio and Tv, which admittely they didn't quantify and $300,000 from
>>Nike. They noted that Coach K's contract, with Duke is private, but
>>that Nike gives him $375K a year, plus stock options, plus a $1 million
>>initial signing bonus.

>Did they break down Pitino's, Calipari's, or any other coaches' salaries by
>source, like they did for Dean, or did they leave the implication that

The News and Observer always makes it sound like, while all other
coaches (the mere mortals) are mired in mud, the Deanster hovers
above it all, white robe spotless and halo intact, while being so kind
as to allow the privileged few to bask in his glow.

>these guys are paid one million from their academic institutions? That
>would be a little (ahem) misleading. They get much of their salaries from
>endorsements, too. Did the paper make that clear? And there are several

No.

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William Taylor

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Apr 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/23/96
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I agree entirely: anyone who has ever read the N&O (most Tar Heel fans
of mine included) can tell you that they are pretty biased towards UNC.
Of course the press is free and may print whatever they please, but really,
imagine the gaul of running a story on how overpaid coaches are, the day after
NCState hires the lowest paid coach in the ACC. I noticed that Herb's
300,000 unofficial salary was used in that comparison chart, while Dean Smith's
millions after shoe contracts and coach K's totals were absent from the same
chart (though admittedly mentioned in the story).

I would like to add that the N&O is a pathetic rag altogether, not just
in its mistreatment of the Wolfpack. Sprorts scores are often misprinted, box
scores are unreliable, and the editorial page is entirely one sided. Good
papers accused of a liberal slant (ie the washington post) make sure that the
editorial page includes a wide range of ideas and philosophies. The N&O
doesn't even make
an effort to remain nonpartisan. In fact, they don't make an effort to provide
a quality paper. And it shows.

-BT3 NCState'94
Clemson'96


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