Did anybody else think the Saturday Night Live skit about women's basketball was ridiculously misinformed? Comments like "an overtime thriller - 14-12" etc, indicated to me that none of the show's writers have seen a women's game for the last 10 years or so.
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In article <D5q26y....@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, cm...@darwin.clas.Virginia.EDU (Mayzie the Lazy Bird) writes: |> |> Did anybody else think the Saturday Night Live skit |> about women's basketball was ridiculously misinformed? |> Comments like "an overtime thriller - 14-12" etc, indicated to |> me that none of the show's writers have seen a women's game for |> the last 10 years or so. |> |> -- |> Carrie Pruett - cm...@darwin.clas.virginia.edu |> "I meant what I said and I said what I meant: |> An elephant's faithful, one hundred percent" |>
Sarcasm dear, sarcasm.
Not that I'm saying that the skit was prticularly funny or anything.
Mack
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Mayzie the Lazy Bird (cm...@darwin.clas.Virginia.EDU) wrote:
: Did anybody else think the Saturday Night Live skit : about women's basketball was ridiculously misinformed? : Comments like "an overtime thriller - 14-12" etc, indicated to : me that none of the show's writers have seen a women's game for : the last 10 years or so.
I wonder if Tridelt ever sued NBC... --
What do you think sirs?
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> Did anybody else think the Saturday Night Live skit > about women's basketball was ridiculously misinformed? > Comments like "an overtime thriller - 14-12" etc, indicated to > me that none of the show's writers have seen a women's game for > the last 10 years or so.
> -- > Carrie Pruett - cm...@darwin.clas.virginia.edu > "I meant what I said and I said what I meant: > An elephant's faithful, one hundred percent"
I was truely dissappointed in the skit! I think Women's basketball is exciting. It was degrading to women and the women college sports programs. I think we need to write NBC and tell them that they were wrong and sexist in showing that skit!!
Matthew Love mens basketball, but women's basketball is awesome
Mayzie the Lazy Bird <cm...@darwin.clas.Virginia.EDU> wrote:
> Did anybody else think the Saturday Night Live skit >about women's basketball was ridiculously misinformed?
I didn't see it, but let me guess: clever, innovative language, given that Chris Farley's nine year-old brother wrote it (oh, he didn't? adults were *paid* for that?); a few incredibly obvious jokes, repeated over and over and over in front of a restive live audience desperate for places to at least clap; and an insight into women and female characters that almost rivals that found in the Power Rangers ("Hi, I'm Jan Hooks. I used to be The Pink One on SNL").
Ken B.
"'Billy Madison' stars (Adam) Sandler of 'Saturday Night Live,' an actor so lacking in charm that he can make you feel guilty for every bad thing you ever thought about Pauley Shore." --Mick LaSalle, SF Chronicle
In <D5q26y....@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> cm...@darwin.clas.Virginia.EDU (Mayzie the Lazy Bird) writes:
> Did anybody else think the Saturday Night Live skit >about women's basketball was ridiculously misinformed? >Comments like "an overtime thriller - 14-12" etc, indicated to >me that none of the show's writers have seen a women's game for >the last 10 years or so.
>-- >Carrie Pruett - cm...@darwin.clas.virginia.edu >"I meant what I said and I said what I meant: >An elephant's faithful, one hundred percent"
I didn't much appreciate the newsitem on SNL the prior week... something like: "UConn women's basketball team led by Rebecca Lobo... Oh who cares, its only Women!"
What a thrill to hear the names of players on national TV, how sad it was ignorant, and well, a dissing.
: > : > Did anybody else think the Saturday Night Live skit : >about women's basketball was ridiculously misinformed? : >Comments like "an overtime thriller - 14-12" etc, indicated to : >me that none of the show's writers have seen a women's game for : >the last 10 years or so. : > : I didn't much appreciate the newsitem on SNL the prior week... something : like: "UConn women's basketball team led by Rebecca Lobo... Oh who : cares, its only Women!"
: What a thrill to hear the names of players on national TV, how sad it : was ignorant, and well, a dissing.
I agree that it is insulting, and I have learned to enjoy women's basketball this year, as the GW women are not only one of the best teams in the country (Sweet 16), but also 12 extrememly nice people. I must say, though, that the SNL skit was a JOKE. It was meant to be funny, which I thought it was. Think of how many SNL jokes do not make fun of someone or something like this. Not many, but they make people laugh, and that is what they are trying to do. I guess I'm trying to say, don't take it so seriously.
: I didn't much appreciate the newsitem on SNL the prior week... something : like: "UConn women's basketball team led by Rebecca Lobo... Oh who : cares, its only Women!"
: What a thrill to hear the names of players on national TV, how sad it : was ignorant, and well, a dissing.
Well, first off, I would like to say that I agree that it was rude, but I would like to add that all of there skits are rude, so you should not be offended by it. The other thing I would take the time to point out, is that while it is a great game and I am glad to know that women are interested in basketball too, I hate it when people try to force women's basketball on me. I don't like it. I don't appreciate being called sexist either, because I prefer to watch women over men in a neutral setting. On the basketball court, I want to see the best game I can watch. If there is a big south game on the tv, or ann ACC game on the tv, there is no doubt that I would watch the ACC game, because the play is much better.
So in conclusion, don't complain about the skit if you want people to respect women's basketball. If you aren't confident in women's basketball enough to take some abuse, why would people who don't watch it want to start watching it?
Amen guys! I wish some people who bash the women's game will sit down and watch the Women's final four this weekend... what they;ll see is GREAT fundamental basketball - real fast breaks, good defense, precision passing...
In article <3lfrg0$...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, oinour...@aol.com (OINOURNVS) writes... >fundamental basketball - real fast breaks, good defense, precision >passing...
>IMHO, the women's game has surpassed the men's...
Teehee! Hahaha!
Here at my school all the home games were women/men doubleheaders. My desire to get a good parking spot and a good seat forced me to endure watching the women's games.
CLANG! CLANG! CLANG!!
They had to replace the rims between games because they were dented by all the bricks. I swear more than half of the goals scored were lay-ups. They couldn't hit a jump shot if their lives depended on it.
Don't talk to me about women's basketball. I've seen it.
--- Patrick Ferrel --> v120q...@ubvms.cc.buffalo * GO BILLS! "My team win or lose" "Withdrawing in disgust is not the same as apathy." - _Slacker_
eil...@midget.towson.edu (Michael Eilman) writes: >Nathan Karnes (karne...@ix.netcom.com) wrote: >: I didn't much appreciate the newsitem on SNL the prior week... something >: like: "UConn women's basketball team led by Rebecca Lobo... Oh who >: cares, its only Women!" >: What a thrill to hear the names of players on national TV, how sad it >: was ignorant, and well, a dissing. >Well, first off, I would like to say that I agree that it was rude, but I >would like to add that all of there skits are rude, so you should not be >offended by it. The other thing I would take the time to point out, is >that while it is a great game and I am glad to know that women are >interested in basketball too, I hate it when people try to force women's >basketball on me. I don't like it. I don't appreciate being called >sexist either, because I prefer to watch women over men in a neutral >setting. On the basketball court, I want to see the best game I can >watch. If there is a big south game on the tv, or ann ACC game on the >tv, there is no doubt that I would watch the ACC game, because the play >is much better.
Why would you ever watch an ACC game, when you can watch the NBA? After all, the play is much better.
: >: I didn't much appreciate the newsitem on SNL the prior week... something : >: like: "UConn women's basketball team led by Rebecca Lobo... Oh who : >: cares, its only Women!"
: >: What a thrill to hear the names of players on national TV, how sad it : >: was ignorant, and well, a dissing.
: >Well, first off, I would like to say that I agree that it was rude, but I : >would like to add that all of there skits are rude, so you should not be : >offended by it. The other thing I would take the time to point out, is : >that while it is a great game and I am glad to know that women are : >interested in basketball too, I hate it when people try to force women's : >basketball on me. I don't like it. I don't appreciate being called : >sexist either, because I prefer to watch women over men in a neutral : >setting. On the basketball court, I want to see the best game I can : >watch. If there is a big south game on the tv, or ann ACC game on the : >tv, there is no doubt that I would watch the ACC game, because the play : >is much better.
: Why would you ever watch an ACC game, when you can watch the NBA? After : all, the play is much better.
Depends what NBA team is playing. Also, I find the college game much more exciting. Each game means more when you only play 20-30 games in a season. Also, the rivalaries are great, and there are more exciting upsets in college basketball. When NC State beat UNC earlier this year it was much better than say if the Bullets beat the Magic. It just can't compare.
>In article <3lfrg0$...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, oinour...@aol.com (OINOURNVS) writes... >>fundamental basketball - real fast breaks, good defense, precision >>passing...
>>IMHO, the women's game has surpassed the men's...
>Teehee! Hahaha!
>Here at my school all the home games were women/men doubleheaders. My desire >to get a good parking spot and a good seat forced me to endure watching the >women's games.
>CLANG! CLANG! CLANG!!
>They had to replace the rims between games because they were dented by all the >bricks. I swear more than half of the goals scored were lay-ups. They couldn't >hit a jump shot if their lives depended on it.
>Don't talk to me about women's basketball. I've seen it.
>--- >Patrick Ferrel --> v120q...@ubvms.cc.buffalo * GO BILLS! "My team win or lose" >"Withdrawing in disgust is not the same as apathy." - _Slacker_
So you have seen poor Women's Ball at your school, wherever that is. Too bad it's lame there. A lot of people enjoyed two good (although blowout) semifinals today. If you want to see Women's basketball far superior to what you have seen at your school, watch the Huskies fend off the Volunteers attempt at revenge Sunday. Then, tell us women have no talent, and are boring! The only thing boring about UConn ball this year is the lack of competition!
In article <3lkm8r$...@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>, karne...@ix.netcom.com (Nathan Karnes) writes... >at your school, watch the Huskies fend off the Volunteers attempt at >revenge Sunday. Then, tell us women have no talent, and are boring!
Actually...My school's team was 20-8, finished third in the conference and lost in the conference tourney semi-final. They definately weren't the worst although you would think they were if you watched them.
I'll be watching the hockey game on Fox, thankyouverymuch. If I get too hyped up and need to calm down, then I'll watch the basketball game. I just hope I don't lapse into a coma when I do.
--- Patrick Ferrel --> v120q...@ubvms.cc.buffalo * GO BILLS! "My team win or lose" "Withdrawing in disgust is not the same as apathy." - _Slacker_
>Kevin Martin Leuthold (leuth...@symcom.math.uiuc.edu) wrote: >: eil...@midget.towson.edu (Michael Eilman) writes: >: >Nathan Karnes (karne...@ix.netcom.com) wrote: >: >: I didn't much appreciate the newsitem on SNL the prior week... something >: >: like: "UConn women's basketball team led by Rebecca Lobo... Oh who >: >: cares, its only Women!" >: >: What a thrill to hear the names of players on national TV, how sad it >: >: was ignorant, and well, a dissing. >: >Well, first off, I would like to say that I agree that it was rude, but I >: >would like to add that all of there skits are rude, so you should not be >: >offended by it. The other thing I would take the time to point out, is >: >that while it is a great game and I am glad to know that women are >: >interested in basketball too, I hate it when people try to force women's >: >basketball on me. I don't like it. I don't appreciate being called >: >sexist either, because I prefer to watch women over men in a neutral >: >setting. On the basketball court, I want to see the best game I can >: >watch. If there is a big south game on the tv, or ann ACC game on the >: >tv, there is no doubt that I would watch the ACC game, because the play >: >is much better. >: Why would you ever watch an ACC game, when you can watch the NBA? After >: all, the play is much better. >Depends what NBA team is playing. Also, I find the college game much >more exciting. Each game means more when you only play 20-30 games in a >season. Also, the rivalaries are great, and there are more exciting >upsets in college basketball. When NC State beat UNC earlier this year >it was much better than say if the Bullets beat the Magic. It just can't >compare. >Mike
I agree. College basketball is exciting and worth watching. My point was that the previous reason for not watching women's bball doesn't make sense, unless that person only watches the NBA. If you only choose to watch games where the play is better, then you would watch the Bullets-Magic rather than UNC-NC State. The Bullets and Magic are simply better teams.
>: >: I didn't much appreciate the newsitem on SNL the prior week... something >: >: like: "UConn women's basketball team led by Rebecca Lobo... Oh who >: >: cares, its only Women!"
>: >: What a thrill to hear the names of players on national TV, how sad it >: >: was ignorant, and well, a dissing.
>: >Well, first off, I would like to say that I agree that it was rude, but I >: >would like to add that all of there skits are rude, so you should not be >: >offended by it. The other thing I would take the time to point out, is >: >that while it is a great game and I am glad to know that women are >: >interested in basketball too, I hate it when people try to force women's >: >basketball on me. I don't like it. I don't appreciate being called >: >sexist either, because I prefer to watch women over men in a neutral >: >setting. On the basketball court, I want to see the best game I can >: >watch. If there is a big south game on the tv, or ann ACC game on the >: >tv, there is no doubt that I would watch the ACC game, because the play >: >is much better.
>: Why would you ever watch an ACC game, when you can watch the NBA? After >: all, the play is much better.
>Depends what NBA team is playing. Also, I find the college game much >more exciting. Each game means more when you only play 20-30 games in a >season. Also, the rivalaries are great, and there are more exciting >upsets in college basketball. When NC State beat UNC earlier this year >it was much better than say if the Bullets beat the Magic. It just can't >compare.
The NBA nad the NCAA Division 1 men's programs have one thing in common, they fill gyms. On the other hand, the women's programs live on the largesse of the profits from the men's Final Four and kindly judges.
Excerpts from netnews.rec.sport.basketball.college: 2-Apr-95 Re: SNL skit on Women's ball by Kevin M. Leuthold@symcom
> I agree. College basketball is exciting and worth watching. > My point was that the previous reason for not watching women's > bball doesn't make sense, unless that person only watches the NBA. > If you only choose to watch games where the play is better, then > you would watch the Bullets-Magic rather than UNC-NC State. The > Bullets and Magic are simply better teams.
I hope you're not implying that the difference in quality of play between the NBA and NCAA men is comparable to the difference between NCAA men and NCAA women. Though fans of women's b-ball are out there, a vast majority of basketball fans hate to watch women's basketball for simple reasons: lack of jumping ability, lack of grace among big women (which are often only 6'0), and very few plays you could call "highlights". As a former successful H.S. basketball player, I see NCAA DI men's basketball players do things I could only dream about. When watching a women's game, I see things I could do better. I have nothing against women's basketball... if there is a market for it, the games should be broadcast. However, don't try to group women's and men's basketball in the same "Not as good as the NBA" category. Many future men's college basketball players will play in the pros... but no women will.
Defending the vast majority, Doug
-- Doug Jones Carnegie Mellon University dj...@andrew.cmu.edu
A COMPLETE KNEEBITER (v120q...@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu) wrote: : Teehee! Hahaha!
: Here at my school all the home games were women/men doubleheaders. My desire : to get a good parking spot and a good seat forced me to endure watching the : women's games.
: CLANG! CLANG! CLANG!!
: They had to replace the rims between games because they were dented by all the : bricks. I swear more than half of the goals scored were lay-ups. They couldn't : hit a jump shot if their lives depended on it.
: Don't talk to me about women's basketball. I've seen it.
I can't beleive I am suporting women's basketball, but here goes. I didn't see what school you went to, but it probably isn't a very good women's school. The problem women's basketball faces it that there just isn't as much talent to go around, since not every woman that WOULD be a good basketball player actually plays. Consequently, you get women who are on the floor only because they are agressive and work hard.
Still, this does make these games sorta boring, but given time, I am sure they will learn to shoot better, all of them. With a ball that small, they have to!!
Kevin Martin Leuthold (leuth...@symcom.math.uiuc.edu) wrote: : >setting. On the basketball court, I want to see the best game I can : >watch. If there is a big south game on the tv, or ann ACC game on the : >tv, there is no doubt that I would watch the ACC game, because the play : >is much better.
: Why would you ever watch an ACC game, when you can watch the NBA? After : all, the play is much better.
The NBA is not basketball, it is profesional entertainers!! College ball is a team game.
<<The NBA nad the NCAA Division 1 men's programs have one thing in common, they fill gyms. On the other hand, the women's programs live on the largesse of the profits from the men's Final Four and kindly judges.>>
Boy, the stupid people who continue to post on this board continues to grow....
Let's see, I know of several teams in the Big Ten alone that make a HUGE profit of women's basketball - Purdue and Iowa even sellout their respective arenas (so does Penn St, although their fieldhouse only seats 6,000 or so) on occasion. And the same exists in the Pac-10 and SEC (sorry, don't know about the Big East and ACC). In addition, Minnesota was sold out last Auguest for this year's Final 4, meaning people want to see the product regardless of who shows up.
Please, idiots, if you're gonna make a comment on women's hoops, at least take the time to learn about it.
Excerpts from netnews.rec.sport.basketball.college: 2-Apr-95 Re: SNL skit on Women's ball by OINOUR...@aol.com
> Let's see, I know of several teams in the Big Ten alone that make a HUGE > profit of women's basketball - Purdue and Iowa even sellout their > respective arenas (so does Penn St, although their fieldhouse only seats > 6,000 or so) on occasion. And the same exists in the Pac-10 and SEC > (sorry, don't know about the Big East and ACC). In addition, Minnesota > was sold out last Auguest for this year's Final 4, meaning people want to > see the product regardless of who shows up.
> Please, idiots, if you're gonna make a comment on women's hoops, at least > take the time to learn about it.
Granted, they may sell out every now and then, especially during tournament time, but how often does it actually happen? My sister's friend played for Purdue 4 years ago and both games I saw had 2 or 3000 people in attendance at most. And Purdue is supposedly one of the best women's teams. Moreover, even if they do sell out occasionally, that doesn't mean profits are being made. Rent for arenas is quite expensive I hear. My main point is, you need the numbers to determine whether or not a program is making money. Don't go calling people idiots without presenting any hard monetary facts yourself.
Later, Doug
-- Doug Jones Carnegie Mellon University dj...@andrew.cmu.edu
><<The NBA nad the NCAA Division 1 men's programs have one thing in common, >they fill gyms. On the other hand, the women's programs live on the >largesse of the profits from the men's Final Four and kindly judges.>>
>Boy, the stupid people who continue to post on this board continues to >grow....
>Let's see, I know of several teams in the Big Ten alone that make a HUGE >profit of women's basketball - Purdue and Iowa even sellout their >respective arenas (so does Penn St, although their fieldhouse only seats >6,000 or so) on occasion. And the same exists in the Pac-10 and SEC >(sorry, don't know about the Big East and ACC). In addition, Minnesota >was sold out last Auguest for this year's Final 4, meaning people want to >see the product regardless of who shows up.
>Please, idiots, if you're gonna make a comment on women's hoops, at least >take the time to learn about it.
AMEN !!
... Lord, thanks for preventing the Foul Whistle Demon from bringing defeat to the Chosen Ones (Rebecca et. al.) today. Amen.
>Granted, they may sell out every now and then, especially during >tournament time, but how often does it actually happen? My sister's >friend played for Purdue 4 years ago and both games I saw had 2 or 3000 >people in attendance at most. And Purdue is supposedly one of the best >women's teams. Moreover, even if they do sell out occasionally, that >doesn't mean profits are being made. Rent for arenas is quite expensive >I hear. My main point is, you need the numbers to determine whether or >not a program is making money. Don't go calling people idiots without >presenting any hard monetary facts yourself.
>Later, >Doug
>-- >Doug Jones >Carnegie Mellon University >dj...@andrew.cmu.edu
But Dougie, your information is four years old! What did Purdue average this year? This is a growing sport, and many of the fans are very young. UConn had approx four sellouts going into this year. They probably had four this year BEFORE reaching number one in the polls in January (not sure).
By the way, a sellout in Gampel is 8,241. There has been a debate for months now, as to whether the Lady Huskies should play some games in the Hartford Civic Center (approx 12,500). The question of accomodating high attendance would be there even if they had gone 33 and 1, it is not rising only now, after the Championship.
As I have said before, this team does not just bring talented ball to the community (57 and 1 in its last 58 games). They are scholars. They reach out to and work with the kids. They have been embraced by people of all types in southern new england. More than anything else, they are our terrific Role Models. Before they decided to stay in Minn. tonight, word was they would be in class tomorrow. That's a lot to ask, but if Coach said do it, they would have.
