World Series
Eric Berger
So, who do ya think is going to win the world series. Leave me a
note, I'd be delighted to hear everyones opinion!
Eric
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Ken Winkler
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> So, who do ya think is going to win the world series. Leave me a
> note, I'd be delighted to hear everyones opinion!
> Eric
>
The Baltimore Orioles.
P.S. Please dismiss the above as the aimless ramblings of a hometown fan.
HOWEVER, if perhaps the impossible does occur, remember that you heard it here
first.
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Christopher Anthony Bulleri
The Baltimore Orioles are the team to beat this year in the AL East.
Just thought you might like to know.
Josh Hartmann
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|> The Baltimore Orioles are the team to beat this year in the AL East.
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|> Just thought you might like to know.
Where are the smiley faces, Chris? :-)
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Valentine
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>If Devereaux and Anderson do what they have been known to do at various
>periods in their career (get on base, steal bases) they could be very potent
>1-2 hitters.
Look again. Neither of them has ever managed to achieve a .340 OBP.
(Though last year Anderson's OBP was a monster .336!) And while
Devereaux's SLG has occasionally approached .400, Anderson will have
to be content with sub-.325 numbers! Offensively, Devereaux is weak
and Anderson is a total zero! I can understand playing Devereaux for
defensive reasons, but Anderson? Give me a break! He has yet to show
*any* MLB potential.
Orsulak at least is a quality player. I see *no* reason why the
Orioles would want to play Brady "Shit-on-wheels" Anderson over him.
> Look for Cal to have an OUTSTANDING year, as he finally has
>someone decent hitting behind him.
Yeah, right. Not until he learns to take a day off now and then.
Look for the August slump out of the most stubborn SS in baseball.
Except it's been moving earlier every year. Don't be surprised if it
comes in July this year.
> Davis average 30+ HR's in the cavernous
>Astrodome, and now he's got only about 290ft.(?) down each line. You do the
>math.
Actually, he averaged 27, not 30+. And as somebody else posted, he
did better in the Astrodome than on the road.
>Billy Rip sucked in '89, but led the team in batting last year.
He had an ok BA (.285), a poor OBP (.333), and a worse
SLG (.378). That he managed to lead the team in BA with
such a pitiful season is a sign of how weak the Orioles
really are. (And don't expect any of the new guys to
hit .300 either.)
>For
>a lineup that lacked any semblance of power as recently as last year, they
>suddenly have five hitters in the middle of their order capable of hitting
>30 homeruns. Three of them have done so before.
They didn't lack HR last year! They were slightly above league
average. They got the expected number of HR from Ripken and Milligan,
and missed only slightly on Tettleton (who will never repeat his '89
HR numbers, especially now that he won't get a chance to DH). Evans
may have once hit 30 HR, but these days I wouldn't look for more than
20 (even if he is fully healthy). The Orioles have *one* hitter
capable of hitting 30 HR. And none capable of hitting .300!
>Relief pitching is solid, with proven setup man and closer.
Yeah? And beyond them, who do you have? Joe Price? :-)
>The Blue Jays lost Bell and McGriff. They will not be as good as last year.
And of course they didn't gain anything at all. Like more young
players ready to enter the majors? Or better pitching? Or a healthy
Jimmy Key? Or a *vastly* superior defense? Or Joe Carter? So they
won't score 767 runs again. Baltimore has to improve significantly to
score 700! (Which will be difficult to achieve if they bat Deveraux
and Anderson 1-2.)
>The BoSox lost Boddicker and Evans. While they picked up Jack Clark,
>they also will not be as good as last year.
And they picked up Young and Darwin, hope for a return from Dopson,
hope for better seasons from Boggs and Murphy, have three or four
rookies who might be ready to become impact players, have a potential
1991 MVP in Burks, and a ROY candidate in Mo Vaughn?
>Given the division the O's play in, I gotta think they will be competitive.
>But keep your eye on Detroit.
Bah hah hah ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can *almost* accept
the Orioles being a competitive team (in the best case scenario for
them, and if *nothing* goes right for Boston or Toronto). But
Detroit? Detroit has *no* starters and a weak bullpen. And their
offense is unlikely to repeat last year's unusually strong season.
Is this a joke? The only team in the division which has *absolutely*
no chance of contending is Detroit. Even New York has a miniscule
chance of being good this year!
-Valentine
Jonathan King
> for first base, so they have quite a choice at first.
But with Davis and Milligan there, it should be really, really easy
not to choose Dwight Evans to play first. Since I am dubious that
Evans will be the starting right fielder, that means that the
congestion problem may be more at DH than at first.
But the Orioles could rid themselves of this perplexing difficulty by
simply trading Milligan back to the Pirates for Steve Carter and Bob
Patterson. (Silly trade rumor I'm trying to start.)
jking
Valentine
>
>With the addition of Evans over the winter the O's have one more player
>for first base, so they have quite a choice at first.
Oh! I forgot about this! (I knew they were stocking up on DH types.)
Evans won't play first. If he plays at all, it will be in his usual
RF position. However, I don't know how well his back will do out
there. If he is healthy, he could be quite an asset to the club,
as Brady Anderson (the fourth OF) just isn't a quality starter. With
Milligan, Tettleton, Horn, and Kittle he won't see any AB as DH.
(And none of the others can play OF.)
Cheers,
-Valentine
Dave Kirsch
>rotation is the big ?. McDonald is a given (I hop), and maybe, just maybe,
>we can squeeze three consistent starters out of a pool of Ballard, Mesa,
>Johnson, Milacki, Telford, and Hickey. The Blue Jays lost Bell and McGriff.
>They will not be as good as last year. The BoSox lost Boddicker and Evans.
>While they picked up Jack Clark, they also will not be as good as last year.
Are you crazy? Both Toronto and Boston will at least be as good as, if not
better than, last year. That doesn't necessarily mean one of them will win
the division, it just means the AL East is once again becoming (somewhat)
competitive.
Sure, the Blue Jays lost Bell and (ouch!) McGriff. But, they're gaining
a full year out of Olerud at first (still not McGriff) and a full year out
of David Wells starting. Jimmy Key's arm should hold up much better this
year. They have gained Joe Carter, Devon White and Roberto Alomar (also lost
Junior Felix - ouch again). While I am not particularly fond of Carter and
think he is overrated, I don't mind having him on my team. Devon White is
*eons* better than Mookie, even with his offensive shortcomings. Alomar is
a stud, through and through. Eddie Zosky will replace Manny 'I hit like I'm
swinging a toothpick' Lee either at the start of the season or early in the
season. There are weaknesses in this team, to be sure, but I have much more
confidence in them than I had in last year's Jays. Mark Whiten and Denis
Boucher are solid young players; they will make an impact at some point.
And, sure, the Bosox lost Boddicker and Evans. Evans didn't do a whole lot
for them last year, so I think that's not that big a deal. Boddicker's solid
pitching and large inning load will be hard to replace, but Danny Darwin and
Matt Young should go a long way towards alleviating that. Jack Clark will be
one *hell* of a force if he stays healthy, and the Bosox have a few players
on the farm who may help out. The Bosox, like the Jays, are fairly solid
at most positions.
>Given the division the O's play in, I gotta think they will be competitive.
I think they'll be competitive, but they'll really have to overachieve to
beat out both the Bosox and Blue Jays. I like some of their young
pitchers, but there's a lot of question marks in the bunch. I forgot about
Evans! They're already gonna have a problem with Davis, Milligan and Segui
backed up at 1B and fighting for a DH spot .. with Evans, things are going
to get worse! If Evans is healthy, I could see things working out nicely for
the O's .. Orsulak in LF, Devereaux in CF and Evans/Anderson in RF (sorry,
I'm no big fan of Brady Anderson).
>But keep your eye on Detroit.
.. and keep your eyes on all those balls sailing out of Tiger Stadium.
Seriously, even if the Tigers score 800 runs, what good is it going to do?
They'll probably give up 900 with that whiplash-infected group they call a
pitching staff. I'm mostly interested in seeing what Rob 'Bomba' Deer will
do in the friendly confines of Tiger Stadium and under the tutelage of
Sparky. Bill Gullickson should give us a good example of what the difference
is between the Astrodome and Tiger Stadium.
Dave Kirsch
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Dennis Doubleday
>someone decent hitting behind him. Davis average 30+ HR's in the cavernous
>Astrodome, and now he's got only about 290ft.(?) down each line. You do the
>math.
Isn't Davis one of those weird exceptions who actually hit more HR
(and better overall) in the Astrodome than he did on the road? I seem
to recall reading something to that effect a year ago, but I don't
have his splits.
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Dave Kirsch
>
>The Baltimore Orioles are the team to beat this year in the AL East.
>
>Just thought you might like to know.
Up until today, I would have asked, "Where are the smileys?" However, I just
heard that the O's traded Pete Harnisch, Curt Schilling and Steve Finley for
Glenn Davis. I still expect Toronto and Boston to be the main contenders in
the AL East, but Baltimore is now looking tough.
God, Houston is *really* gonna suck this year. I guess they're doing the
right thing by 'backing up the truck' to unload Davis, since they know they
aren't gonna win this year. Harnisch could flourish in the Astrodome, and
Schilling and Finley are decent players. I still think they could have gotten
more for Davis if they traded him last year or earlier in the offseason. The
only catch is that Baltimore needs to sign Davis to a long-term contract or
risk losing him through free-agency next year.
I think this was a great move on Baltimore's part, but .. if Milligan's
healthy they'll have Davis, Milligan and David Segui bottlenecked at 1B.
Segui is (IMHO) the best defensive player of the lot, but may not be ready
yet with the bat. Any O's fans know who's gonna play where, and whether or
not Milligan or Segui might get traded? Who's gonna play first, Davis or
Milligan? I assume for the time being, one will play first and the other
will DH full time.
Christopher Anthony Bulleri
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Ken Winkler
> In article <1991Jan11.0...@wam.umd.edu> bul...@wam.umd.edu (Christopher Anthony Bulleri) writes:
>>
>>With the addition of Evans over the winter the O's have one more player
>>for first base, so they have quite a choice at first.
>
> Oh! I forgot about this! (I knew they were stocking up on DH types.)
> Evans won't play first. If he plays at all, it will be in his usual
> RF position. However, I don't know how well his back will do out
quite understand why the club still doesn't recognize the numbers Orsulak
consistently puts up, but I will bet that he will be odd-man out, platooning
with Dewey in right, with his playing time determined by how well Dewey does.
Mike Devereaux has a chance to be an everyday player--I guess they all do, if
they perform consistently, which has been their problem.
> there. If he is healthy, he could be quite an asset to the club,
> as Brady Anderson (the fourth OF) just isn't a quality starter. With
> Milligan, Tettleton, Horn, and Kittle he won't see any AB as DH.
> (And none of the others can play OF.)
I don't think the O's are going to keep Kittle. Horn I don't see as more than
occaisional left-handed DH/PH. This is my lineup, were I Frank Robinson:
1 Deveraux, CF
2 Anderson, LF
3 Ripken, SS
4 Davis, 1B
5 Milligan, DH
6 Evans, RF
7 Tettleton, C
8 Worthington, or maybe J.Bell 3B
9 The other Ripken, 2B
If Devereaux and Anderson do what they have been known to do at various
periods in their career (get on base, steal bases) they could be very potent
1-2 hitters. Look for Cal to have an OUTSTANDING year, as he finally has
someone decent hitting behind him. Davis average 30+ HR's in the cavernous
Astrodome, and now he's got only about 290ft.(?) down each line. You do the
math. Milligan was a bonafide #5 hitter last year before he got hurt. You
gotta like the guy--I'd have to keep him in my lineup. Evans is no doubt a
question mark, but HE says he's fine, and I have no reason to doubt him.
Worthington put up Rookie of the Year numbers in '89, but slacked off last
year. Which one will show up? Billy Rip sucked in '89, but led the team
in batting last year. Again, which one will show up? If Anderson or Devereaux
slack off, look for him or Orsulak to fill in at the top of the order. For
a lineup that lacked any semblance of power as recently as last year, they
suddenly have five hitters in the middle of their order capable of hitting
30 homeruns. Three of them have done so before.
Relief pitching is solid, with proven setup man and closer. The starting
rotation is the big ?. McDonald is a given (I hop), and maybe, just maybe,
we can squeeze three consistent starters out of a pool of Ballard, Mesa,
Johnson, Milacki, Telford, and Hickey. The Blue Jays lost Bell and McGriff.
They will not be as good as last year. The BoSox lost Boddicker and Evans.
While they picked up Jack Clark, they also will not be as good as last year.
Given the division the O's play in, I gotta think they will be competitive.
But keep your eye on Detroit.
Sydney R. Polk
> kwin...@pbs.org (Ken Winkler) writes:
>
>>someone decent hitting behind him. Davis average 30+ HR's in the cavernous
>>Astrodome, and now he's got only about 290ft.(?) down each line. You do the
>>math.
>
> Isn't Davis one of those weird exceptions who actually hit more HR
> (and better overall) in the Astrodome than he did on the road? I seem
> to recall reading something to that effect a year ago, but I don't
> have his splits.
This only happened one year; career-wise he is a much better hitter on
the road. The weird thing is he hits righties better than lefties.
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Charles Robert Claydon
>A's are still the best bet, combining the best players with the
>knowledge they've got something to prove. Check out the records of
>other great teams who repeated as league champions the year after (a.)
>losing the world series unexpectedly or (b.) not blowing away a team
>thought to be much weaker. Some examples: '70 Orioles, '76 Reds, '89
>A's.
Uh, do you mean the '75 Reds (vs Red Sox)? The '76 Reds 1) swept the
Yankees in 4 and 2) finished 2nd to the Dodgers......
Rob
David Henry Willis
knowledge they've got something to prove. Check out the records of
other great teams who repeated as league champions the year after (a.)
losing the world series unexpectedly or (b.) not blowing away a team
thought to be much weaker. Some examples: '70 Orioles, '76 Reds, '89
A's.
Dave Willis
Carnegie Mellon University
Baltimore is NOT the team to beat in the AL East.