1000 runs a season chase
AR
They have scored 823 runs in 134 games (6.14 per game). They need to score
177 in 28 games (6.32 per game) to reach 1000.
Steve Grant
>
> Yankees could become the first team ever to score 1000 runs in a season.
No.
Year Team Runs Games
1894 Boston (N) 1220 133
1894 Baltimore (N) 1170 129
1931 New York (A) 1067 155
1936 New York (A) 1065 155
1930 St. Louis (N) 1004 154
1950 Boston (A) 1027 154
Steve
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Bob Timmermann
AR wrote:
> Yankees could become the first team ever to score 1000 runs in a season.
> They have scored 823 runs in 134 games (6.14 per game). They need to score
> 177 in 28 games (6.32 per game) to reach 1000.
This would be news to members of the 1930 St. Louis Cardinals (1004 runs),
The 1930 Yankees (1062 runs), the 1931 Yankees (1067 runs), and the 1932
Yankees (1002 runs).
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Bob Timmermann
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Steve Grant
>
> The Philadelphia (NL) teams of 1893-94-95 and the Yankees of 1930-31-32 are
> the only teams to score 1000 runs three straight years ... a record that will
> be impossible to beat under the modern conditions of free agency.
Impossible? I expect to see the Rockies do this within a decade.
James Tuttle
>
> AR wrote:
> >
> > Yankees could become the first team ever to score 1000 runs in a season.
>
>
> Year Team Runs Games
> 1894 Boston (N) 1220 133
> 1894 Baltimore (N) 1170 129
> 1931 New York (A) 1067 155
> 1936 New York (A) 1065 155
> 1930 St. Louis (N) 1004 154
> 1950 Boston (A) 1027 154
I think he means first ever to score 1000 runs in a 162-game schedule.
JMcMar1
>Yankees could become the first team ever to score 1000 runs in a >season.They
have scored 823 runs in 134 games (6.14 per game). >They need to score 177 in
28 games (6.32 per game) to reach 1000.
Not quite. Here is a complete (I hope!) list of teams that have scored 1000
runs in a season.
Year Team Runs R/G Finish
"Dead ball era"
1887 St Louis (AA) 1131 8.20 First
1890 NY (Players) 1018 7.71 Third
1891 Boston (AA) 1028 7.40 First
1893 Philly (NL) 1011 7.60 Fourth
1894 Baltimore 1171 9.08 First
1894 Boston 1220 *9.17* Third
1894 Philly 1143 8.86 Fourth
1894 Brooklyn 1021 7.62 Fifth
1894 Chicago 1041 7.71 Eighth (!)
1895 Baltimore 1009 7.64 First
1895 Philly 1068 8.03 Third
1897 Boston 1025 7.59 First
"Modern era"
1930 Cardinals 1004 6.52 First
1930 Yankees 1062 6.90 Third
1931 Yankees 1067 6.88 Second
1932 Yankees 1002 6.42 First
1936 Yankees 1065 6.87 First
1950 Red Sox 1027 6.67 Third
Closest any team has come to scoring 1000 in a season since 1950 is the
Mariners in 1996 with 993 (6.17 per game).
The Philadelphia (NL) teams of 1893-94-95 and the Yankees of 1930-31-32 are
the only teams to score 1000 runs three straight years ... a record that will
be impossible to beat under the modern conditions of free agency.
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Jim McMartin
JMcMar1
>JMcMar1 wrote:
>
> The Philadelphia (NL) teams of 1893-94-95 and the Yankees of
1930-31-32 are
> the only teams to score 1000 runs three straight years ... a record that will
> be impossible to beat under the modern conditions of free agency.
:Impossible? I expect to see the Rockies do this within a decade.
Expect all you want, Steve. They haven't done it even *once* yet.
Jim McMartin
Steve Grant
Jim, your account of history is of course 100% correct: no, they
haven't done it even once yet. But as they say in the mutual fund
business, past performance is no guarantee of future results.
My expectation rests on two assumptions:
1) Offense will increase in the next few years. The owners have
worked out that offense sells. They'll make sure that lots of runs
get scored.
2) The Rox will eventually work out that if they're to win anything,
they'll need to upgrade their offense. When that happens, look out.
I could be wrong on both counts: 1) the owners may have more of a
purist attitude than I think they do, and 2) the Rockies ownership
may not read this ng. In which case you'll be absolutely right.
Still, that "impossible" in your original post sounds very sweeping
to me.
Steve Grant
>
> Steve Grant wrote:
> >
> > AR wrote:
> > >
> > > Yankees could become the first team ever to score 1000 runs in a season.
> >
> > No.
> >
> > Year Team Runs Games
> > 1894 Boston (N) 1220 133
> > 1894 Baltimore (N) 1170 129
> > 1931 New York (A) 1067 155
> > 1936 New York (A) 1065 155
> > 1930 St. Louis (N) 1004 154
> > 1950 Boston (A) 1027 154
>
Possible, I suppose, but:
a) what he wrote was "season," not "162-game schedule"
b) the extra games would hardly be a handicap
c) if a 162-game record is *higher* than its 154-game counterpart
(e.g., home runs, player, season), I can see some slight justification
for including both in the record book. But not if it's lower. And
AR clearly *is* talking about a record: "first team ever to score
1000 runs in a season" means, among other things, "scoring more runs
in a season than any other team ever has."
JMcMar1
Steve, your assumptions seem quite plausible to me and your expectation that
the Rox will score 1000 runs/season for 4 consecutive seasons sometime within
the next decade could turn out to be one terrific prediction. I wonder what
sort of odds you could get in Vegas? Very long ones, I suspect.
I agree that my *impossible* assertion is very sweeping, purposely so. My
assumption is that free agency is here to stay and thus dynasties are things of
the past. Should the Rox garner sufficient fire-power to score 1000 runs in two
consecutive seasons, what are the odds that they will be able to field an
equally effective, injury-free lineup the third and fourth years? (since we are
talking about a high quality hitters, replacement levels won't fill the bill,
unless they get lucky with a rookie or two).
Since not all players have the same length contracts, there will be, I assume,
defections a la Galarraga from time to time (but perhaps less so as other GMs
take a closer look at home/road stats). Moreover, I expect the Rox ownership to
realize (as they do now) that they can't win with hitting alone and to focus
more on obtaining quality pitching.
Obviously, it is not *impossible* for them to do as you expect ... I just
think it is *extremely* unlikely.
Jim McMartin