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E.F. Hokie

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Dec 4, 2009, 3:39:35 AM12/4/09
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Just re-read this piece by Tim Kurkjian... it's good:

http://espn.go.com/classic/obit/williams_ted_kurkjian.html


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E.F. Hokie

"To those who have fought for it,
freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."

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Lew Pitcher

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Dec 4, 2009, 1:01:52 PM12/4/09
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E.F. Hokie <efh...@nah.nope> trolled:

> Just re-read this piece by Tim Kurkjian... it's good:
>
> http://espn.go.com/classic/obit/williams_ted_kurkjian.html

What self-serving rubbish. Hitting a baseball is the hardest task
in sport?

AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who originally said that? Why, Ted Williams, of course, the LF who
played in the bandbox in Boston. Williams was the last guy to hit
.400 and he lost the MVP that year to Joe Dimaggio.

We quote:

"Slugging and on-base average are the truest markers of offensive
excellence;"

Absolutely hilarious. Since nobody in Williams time gave a flying
fuck about neither, including Williams, nobody in Williams' time,
including Williams, ever tried to maximize their SA or OBP.
Comparing players by standards that neither was conscious of is like
comparing two world class marathon runners by timing them walking to
the score while they are unaware they are being timed.

Absolutely hilarious!

What does SA tell you about Williams that you need to know if you
are trying to decide whether he will fit into your lineup?

How does OBP help you decide who you want in your lineup?

These numbers don't tell you a damned thing and the only reason they
became popular is that computer geeks who don't know a damned thing
about the game use computers to try and tell them something their
own eyes cannot - which player is the so-called "best." (We already
know which player was the greatest.)

when we were kids we all knew who the best players were because we
played against them. And yet nobody kept any statistics. People
who understand the game understand ability and they also understand
that artificial ranking systems like OBP, SA and the laughable OPS,
tell you nothing useful about a player. Nothing.

Which player do you want? The player with an OPS of 1.000? Or a
player of .900?

Well, that depends, says the cagey statfan. Well, if it depends on
something else, then lets just get to the something else the
decision depends on and forget about OPS, ok, folks?

cordially, even to the intellectually challenged,

rm

E.F. Hokie

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Dec 4, 2009, 3:55:31 PM12/4/09
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On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:01:52 +0000, Lew Pitcher wrote...

> What self-serving rubbish. Hitting a baseball is the hardest task
> in sport?

It's the hardest single action in sport, as identified by scientists who
studied the ergonomics of about 20 or so different sports.

weheardthenews

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Dec 4, 2009, 4:36:40 PM12/4/09
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On Dec 4, 1:23�am, Chic <chic_mur...@running.nowhere.com> wrote:
> I suspect that Ialdabaoth created Imperfection so that on this day Fri, 4 Dec
> 2009 03:39:35 -0500, one purporting to be E.F. Hokie <efho...@nah.nope> could
> write :

>
> >Just re-read this piece by Tim Kurkjian... it's good:
>
> >http://espn.go.com/classic/obit/williams_ted_kurkjian.html
>
> What were Ted Williams last words?
>
> Chic

"Hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do in sports. Anyone who
can get 4,256 hits is without a doubt, the greatest hitter and player
in the history of baseball. I had a vision the other night that a man
named Pete Rose will accomplish the feat. Pete Rose belongs in the
Hall of Fame."

Will in New Haven

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Dec 4, 2009, 4:49:25 PM12/4/09
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On Dec 4, 3:55 pm, E.F. Hokie <efho...@nah.nope> wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:01:52 +0000, Lew Pitcher wrote...
> > What self-serving rubbish.  Hitting a baseball is the hardest task
> > in sport?
>
> It's the hardest single action in sport, as identified by scientists who
> studied the ergonomics of about 20 or so different sports.

That is fairly controversial, although Michael Jordan would probably
agree with it. "Hardest" is so subjective and the definition is not
set in stone. It would be much harder for me to run one hundred yards
in eleven seconds than to hit a baseball. That was true when I was
young and fairly athletic. I could hit a baseball but I could never
run one hundred yards in eleven seconds.

Hitting a baseball is very hard to _learn_ and there is a restricted
time in which it is neurologically possible to learn to do it well.
However, whether it is harder to _do_ than stopping a puck flying at
one hundred-plus miles an hour while also worrying about skaters
bearing down on you is certainly debatable.

--
Will in New Haven

Lew Pitcher

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Dec 4, 2009, 5:00:55 PM12/4/09
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E.F. Hokie <efh...@nah.nope> trolled:

> On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:01:52 +0000, Lew Pitcher wrote...
>
>> What self-serving rubbish. Hitting a baseball is the hardest task
>> in sport?
>
> It's the hardest single action in sport, as identified by scientists who
> studied the ergonomics of about 20 or so different sports.

I wonder how many of these "scientists" faced a left hook from Joe
Frazier? Or even an Al McInnis slapshot? Not to mention bouncing
off a wall and back into the thick of an Indy Car race?

How about shooting the Grand Canyon on a rocket-assisted motorcycle?

Ah, but hitting a baseball - well... If Ted Williams says it is the
hardest thing to do in sport then it must be so since Teddy Ballgame
would never be biased.

Would these be the same "scientists" on the honey oat cereal
commercials? The so-called "Fruit Scientists?"

cordially, as always,

rm

E.F. Hokie

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Dec 4, 2009, 5:15:47 PM12/4/09
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On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 13:49:25 -0800 (PST), Will in New Haven wrote...

> > It's the hardest single action in sport, as identified by scientists who
> > studied the ergonomics of about 20 or so different sports.
>
> That is fairly controversial, although Michael Jordan would probably
> agree with it. "Hardest" is so subjective and the definition is not
> set in stone. It would be much harder for me to run one hundred yards
> in eleven seconds than to hit a baseball. That was true when I was
> young and fairly athletic. I could hit a baseball but I could never
> run one hundred yards in eleven seconds.

The physical action involved in running is moving your legs in such a
way as to propel you forward; doing it well or fast isn't.

Clifford Blau

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Dec 4, 2009, 8:26:09 PM12/4/09
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On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:01:52 +0000, Lew Pitcher
<LPit...@techsavvy.ca> wrote:

>E.F. Hokie <efh...@nah.nope> trolled:
>> Just re-read this piece by Tim Kurkjian... it's good:
>>
>> http://espn.go.com/classic/obit/williams_ted_kurkjian.html
>
>What self-serving rubbish. Hitting a baseball is the hardest task
>in sport?
>
>AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Welcome back, Roger. Still an ignoramus after all these years!

"Curse you, Don Tickles, Notary Public!"

weheardthenews

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Dec 4, 2009, 9:25:24 PM12/4/09
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On Dec 4, 2:00�pm, Lew Pitcher <LPitc...@techsavvy.ca> wrote:
> E.F. Hokie <efho...@nah.nope> trolled:

>
> > On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:01:52 +0000, Lew Pitcher wrote...
>
> >> What self-serving rubbish. �Hitting a baseball is the hardest task
> >> in sport?
>
> > It's the hardest single action in sport, as identified by scientists who
> > studied the ergonomics of about 20 or so different sports.
>
> I wonder how many of these "scientists" faced a left hook from Joe
> Frazier?

Were you aware that Joe would offer his chin to you, hoping you would
throw an uppercut, in which Joe would weave just a bit to avoid your
punch and then land his left hook on you? Intriguing, isn't it?

�Or even an Al McInnis slapshot?

Remember when the Flyers would send in Dave Schultz to pick a fight
with the opposing team's best players in an attempt to get them off
the ice and into the penalty box? Pretty good strategy.

�Not to mention bouncing


> off a wall and back into the thick of an Indy Car race?

Oh no, please, no Sarah Fisher threads.


>
> How about shooting the Grand Canyon on a rocket-assisted motorcycle?

Did Evel Knievel really blame the Arabs for not allowing him to top
off the tank because of the gasoline shortage?

>
> Ah, but hitting a baseball - well... If Ted Williams says it is the
> hardest thing to do in sport then it must be so since Teddy Ballgame
> would never be biased.

The Rose Committee would like to thank the Ted Williams Foundation for
supporting the fact that Pete Rose is the greatest hitter and
therefore the greatest player in the history of baseball. We thank
you 4,256 times.

>
> Would these be the same "scientists" on the honey oat cereal
> commercials? �The so-called "Fruit Scientists?"
>
> cordially, as always,
>
> rm

Hey realto, how's it going these days?

Walcott

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Dec 5, 2009, 5:18:55 AM12/5/09
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not bad

Lew Pitcher

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Dec 6, 2009, 5:46:29 PM12/6/09
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weheardthenews <weheard...@aol.com> trolled:


> Hey realto, how's it going these days?

We see that you keep the dream alive. Good for you!

Hard work, though, dealing with mutton-heads.

cordially, as always,

rm

Eric Ramon

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Dec 6, 2009, 11:34:53 PM12/6/09
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On Dec 4, 10:01 am, Lew Pitcher <LPitc...@techsavvy.ca> wrote:

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> cordially, even to the intellectually challenged,
>
> rm

I thought you were dead!

Will in New Haven

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Dec 7, 2009, 9:17:51 AM12/7/09
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The plan feel through. We are seeing about getting a refund.:-)

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