Hi all, newbie archery student checking in.
Elder
Warrington. A gift for my 40th as I've always enjoyed it on holiday when
abroad.
Almost getting to the point where I'm thinking of joining the club and
getting my own bow/set instead of using the club practice kit.
The club trainer has had me using a 26lb draw, with 29" easton practice
arrows, and I think the bow was Polaris take down (they have several
makes of mixed kit for beginners). Shooting 30 metres at the moment, but
next weekend we get to mix with the club members, shooting different
distances.
What are good makes of full bow sets to look at, and should I consider
second hand kit? Will probably be looking at shooting once a week, or
possibly once fortnight, but occasionally a midweek session. Going to
seek club advice on kit too, but nothing wrong with more advice.
Nice to see some familiar names on here from the various car groups I
frequent.
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Frank
> I'm week 4 into a 6 week beginners course at my local club Bowmen of
> Warrington. A gift for my 40th as I've always enjoyed it on holiday when
> abroad.
>
> Almost getting to the point where I'm thinking of joining the club and
> getting my own bow/set instead of using the club practice kit.
>
> The club trainer has had me using a 26lb draw, with 29" easton practice
> arrows, and I think the bow was Polaris take down (they have several
> makes of mixed kit for beginners). Shooting 30 metres at the moment, but
> next weekend we get to mix with the club members, shooting different
> distances.
>
> What are good makes of full bow sets to look at, and should I consider
> second hand kit? Will probably be looking at shooting once a week, or
> possibly once fortnight, but occasionally a midweek session. Going to
> seek club advice on kit too, but nothing wrong with more advice.
>
> Nice to see some familiar names on here from the various car groups I
> frequent.
I only hunt with a bow but it is nice to see a new bow post. My first
hunting bow was a second hand Bear recurve. Was good for getting started.
Dave
news:h28nu2$nul$4...@news.eternal-september.org...
The O.P. is clearly from the U.K where hunting with a bow is illegal. I
would suggest he seeks advice from Warrington Club members as to bow type
and length as well as arrows. I find that browsing the catalogues and
checking on-line with:-
Quicks (http://www.quicksarchery.co.uk/superbasket/index.php)
Alternative
(http://www.alternativess.com/cgi-bin/start.cgi/shop/dev/main.htm?)
Bowsports (http://www.bowsports.com/)
The look of a bow is important, as is your budget. You can sometimes get a
bargain on eBay but ask advice from the club before you bid. Good luck.
--
Dave Hall. Chairman & Record's Officer
Pembroke Company of Archers.
Frank
that do tend towards heavier draw weights and compound bows that we hunt
with. I still have my Bear recurve that I bought used about 40 years
ago hanging on my recreation room wall. It's too pretty to sell.
Elder
says...
>
> The O.P. is clearly from the U.K where hunting with a bow is illegal. I
> would suggest he seeks advice from Warrington Club members as to bow type
> and length as well as arrows. I find that browsing the catalogues and
> checking on-line with:-
> Quicks (http://www.quicksarchery.co.uk/superbasket/index.php)
> Alternative
> (http://www.alternativess.com/cgi-bin/start.cgi/shop/dev/main.htm?)
> Bowsports (http://www.bowsports.com/)
>
> The look of a bow is important, as is your budget. You can sometimes get a
> bargain on eBay but ask advice from the club before you bid. Good luck.
>
I'm resisting the urge well to avoid splurging too much money on the
wrong type of kit at over the odds prices because it is carbon.
I've been looking at KAP stuff which seems reasonable price and the most
frequently available.
Elder
frankperi...@comcast.net says...
> I only hunt with a bow but it is nice to see a new bow post. My first
> hunting bow was a second hand Bear recurve. Was good for getting started.
>
compound to give a decent chance of a clean kill and less suffering.
Shame as been said it is illegal in the UK, but there are some field
archey types things going on.
Frank
> In article <h28nu2$nul$4...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> frankperi...@comcast.net says...
>> I only hunt with a bow but it is nice to see a new bow post. My first
>> hunting bow was a second hand Bear recurve. Was good for getting started.
>>
> Bow hunting seems interesting, especially when using a nice powerful
> compound to give a decent chance of a clean kill and less suffering.
> Shame as been said it is illegal in the UK, but there are some field
> archey types things going on.
The challenge of bow hunting deer is to get the deer in close and have a
good estimate of distance. Getting older with infirmities, I now have a
crossbow permit but the challenge is the same. Since arrows kill by
bloodletting, tracking is always in order. A well placed double lung
shot can bring a deer down in less than 10 seconds but long enough for
the deer to run over 100 yards.
I have a colleague in the UK who is anxious to go to my shooting range
next time he gets to come here. Last time I neglected to tell him how
to hold a semiautomatic pistol versus a revolver and the slide raked his
hand badly enough to draw blood. He was having so much fun it was hard
to slow him down so I could bandage the wound.
Wylie
> In article <HAZ1m.5726$cV.3...@newsfe09.ams2>, dave@no_spam_daviv.com
My family and I have been in an archery club for about a year now. We
are all use KAP set ups. They are the "intro" brand of Win & Win.
Very serviceable - the kids use them in competitions. For a good set
up you will probably purchase the limbs and riser separately rather
than as a pre-made kit. But I would be very surprised if the coaches
at the club don't have good advice on what to get and will probably be
able to get you a discount. They should at least be able to advise
you on the draw weight of the limbs - you really don't want to overbow
(get too heavy a pull) with target shooting.
-wylie
Elder
@o36g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>, wyl...@gmail.com says...
> They should at least be able to advise
> you on the draw weight of the limbs - you really don't want to overbow
> (get too heavy a pull) with target shooting.
>
They had a range of weights from 16lb (couple of young kids on the
course with their parents) upto 32lb.
We basically got told to draw and hold the bow to see if there was any
tremble or if it felt too heavy. I'm 6' 3" and 16stone, but the 28lb
felt a bit heavy to hold, so they recommended a 26lb which I have been
using for the last 4 weeks. With a 29" shaft that probably works out as
about 27-28lb if my working out is correct.
But yes, when I join the club proper I will be looking at Ian the club
chairman and John the trainer for their advice on kit.
--
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Kjetil Kilhavn
> In article <23999d06-c868-4d64-9450-82c41c794448
> @o36g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>, wyl...@gmail.com says...
>> They should at least be able to advise
>> you on the draw weight of the limbs - you really don't want to overbow
>> (get too heavy a pull) with target shooting.
>>
> We've been doing that as part of the course.
> They had a range of weights from 16lb (couple of young kids on the
> course with their parents) upto 32lb.
>
> We basically got told to draw and hold the bow to see if there was any
> tremble or if it felt too heavy. I'm 6' 3" and 16stone, but the 28lb
> felt a bit heavy to hold, so they recommended a 26lb which I have been
> using for the last 4 weeks. With a 29" shaft that probably works out as
> about 27-28lb if my working out is correct.
>
> But yes, when I join the club proper I will be looking at Ian the club
> chairman and John the trainer for their advice on kit.
It's always a bit difficult with adults, because you want them to be able to
shoot the required distance, but you don't want them to have a bow that's
too strong since that makes it difficult (read: impossible) to get proper
technique.
I would recommend going with a quite weak bow first (no more than 26 pounds,
preferrably less). A good solution is to buy a handle in the price range you
want to end up (or even a complete bow) and a cheap set of weak limbs with
which you can start. Then, when your technique becomes better it won't be a
problem to get a stronger pair of limbs.
Good luck anyway. It's been a while since I read new articles, so for all I
know you've already purchased a bow.
--
Kjetil Kilhavn
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Elder
kje...@kilhavn.no says...
> I would recommend going with a quite weak bow first (no more than 26 pounds,
> preferrably less). A good solution is to buy a handle in the price range you
> want to end up (or even a complete bow) and a cheap set of weak limbs with
> which you can start. Then, when your technique becomes better it won't be a
> problem to get a stronger pair of limbs.
>
> Good luck anyway. It's been a while since I read new articles, so for all I
> know you've already purchased a bow.
>
Based on the club coach, team captain, and chairnman's advice, and that
of the shop I bought from, I bought a Winstar 2 Riser, with long limbs
30lb @28". With my length of draw I'm drawing 35lb, and after about 30
arrows I can feel the difference between between the first and last in
any 6. After 42, I couldn't shoot a full 6, my riser arm wasn't able to
hold the bow steady. So I stopped for the evening. This was only the
second time I had shot this bow after using the club 26lb trainer bow
for 6 weeks, so I will certainly develop into it.
Form wise, as the session went on, you could see how and when I was
tiring. I was getting good grouping (Within 8 inches at 25 metres) until
about halfway through, where slowly it would be 5 grouped, and one wild
(still on the boss), then 4 grouped and 2 wild, then 3 grouped, 2 wild
and I couldn't even safely draw the 6th.
Just need to do some drawing excersises to build up my strength and
improve my technique. Next shooting session is Sunday morning so I'm
going to work on my endurance.
Still enjoying it though and going to keep it up, as I started for the
fun and excersise.
Elder
> Form wise, as the session went on, you could see how and when I was
> tiring. I was getting good grouping (Within 8 inches at 25 metres) until
> about halfway through, where slowly it would be 5 grouped, and one wild
> (still on the boss), then 4 grouped and 2 wild, then 3 grouped, 2 wild
> and I couldn't even safely draw the 6th.
Just a little follow up to this.
After about another month of shooting I'm pretty used to the weight.
When tiredness creeps in, my draw hand creeps forward a bit so I'm
having to be extra careful with that.
Biggest breakthrough so far has been this weekend. After we finished
scoring and I was just shooting a few extra ends for fun, I changed my
grip. It is more of a non-grip now, with all fingers tucked in along
the side of the riser. The bow is much more solid to hold but not
being torqued.
Tried shooting 60m last week, got 5 out of 6 on the boss for the first
time, which the club chairman thought was pretty impressive for a 35lb
draw weight shooting aluminium arrows which kind of resemble scaffold
poles.
This Sunday there is an interclub comp (a return match for the 4th
July weekend) shooting an American round (7.5 dozen arrows at 60yds,
50yds, 40yds 2.5 dozen at each distance), so I have club honour to
uphold.
As 3 of us from the last beginners course are at the same level of
experience and going up to play with the big boys for the first time,
we are going to shoot the round on our Wednesday and Friday practice
and get some rough sight marks in.
Should be fun, as the other club are throwing a BBQ afterwards, and
they being a proper sports club have bar facilities.