Remember Jerry Dink
Capt. hook
~you must do good unto evil~
Take an example from Hoffa
but
give up your'e slot
or
WATCH YOUR BACK
ohm ohm ohm
"Fit Via Vi"
Vedfolnir
> ~you must do good unto evil~
I know this confuses you, so I'll break it down, amoungst your faimly, friends
and union brothers, go ahead and beat the hell
out of management and their luxury cars
~for the team~
~make the competition~
~cream their jeans~
its about family ooooorah?
the old Philosopher sez
Go to the dz & pay to learn correct skydiving this is not the place
Jerry K.
>If you wish to be a truely great skydiver
> ~you must do good unto evil~
Airtime doesn't hurt either. Keeping an open mind doesn't hurt
either, for that matter.
> Take an example from Hoffa
> but
> give up your'e slot
> or
> WATCH YOUR BACK
True - jury tampering and fund fraud could cut into the airtime, I
suppose.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
>>If you wish to be a truely great skydiver
>> ~you must do good unto evil~
>
>I know this confuses you, so I'll break it down, amoungst your faimly, friends
>and union brothers, go ahead and beat the hell
>out of management and their luxury cars
> ~for the team~
> ~make the competition~
> ~cream their jeans~
> its about family
Oh yeah - willfull destruction of private property (plus a little
fraud and jury tampering) makes for great skydiving, yeah.
...bsrp
...jlk
Vedfolnir
>~you must do good unto evil~
>Airtime doesn't hurt either.
Nope and if yer gonna git a lotta airtime
you may have to forgive perceived wrongs and jump with a few people ya really
don't care for, such is life son ;-*
Vedfolnir
>~you must do good unto evil~
>I know this confuses you, so I'll break it down, amoungst your faimly, friends
>and union brothers, go ahead and beat >the hell out of management and their
>luxury cars
> ~for the team~
> ~make the competition~
>> ~cream their jeans~
>> ~its about family~
>Oh yeah - willfull destruction of private >property
Yawl gitting drunk & trashing out the dz again?
That wud come under Management like you know "Being a DZO and forgiving."
;-)
Jerry K.
>>If you wish to be a truely great skydiver
>>~you must do good unto evil~
>
>>I know this confuses you, so I'll break it down, amoungst your faimly, friends
>>and union brothers, go ahead and beat >the hell out of management and their
>>luxury cars
>> ~for the team~
>> ~make the competition~
>>> ~cream their jeans~
>>> ~its about family~
>
>>Oh yeah - willfull destruction of private >property
>
>Yawl gitting drunk & trashing out the dz again?
It happens but usually under the heading of "good fun run amok" as
opposed to "holding the line," and doing "good unto evil."
>
>That wud come under Management like you know "Being a DZO and forgiving."
I think to be a DZO you have to be very forgiving - certainly of the
the raucous skydivers who by day keep the plane going and without even
thinking about it will do what it takes to keep everything cool while
jump operations are active but who by night, after sunset when jump
operations have ceased, sometimes turn into noisy, drunken louts with
poor vomit control.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
>>If you wish to be a truely great skydiver
>>~you must do good unto evil~
>
>>Airtime doesn't hurt either.
>
>Nope and if yer gonna git a lotta airtime
>you may have to forgive perceived wrongs and jump with a few people ya really
>don't care for, such is life son
You see - there's another difference - I actually like the people I
jump with and if I don't, it's only because I probably just don't know
them.
...bsrp
...jlk
Vedfolnir
> ~you must do good unto evil~
>Airtime doesn't hurt either.
>>
>>Nope and if yer gonna git a lotta airtime
>>you may have to forgive perceived wrongs and jump with a few people ya
>really
>>don't care for, such is life son
>
>You see - there's another difference - I actually like the people I
>jump with and if I don't, it's only because I probably just don't know
>them.
>
>...bsrp
>...jlk
>
>
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA its your'e lie kid,
tell it as big as you want to. ;-*
Vedfolnir
>
>It happens
>That wud come under Management like >you know "Being a DZO and forgiving."
>
>I think to be a DZO you have to be very >forgiving - certainly of the
>the raucous skydivers who by day keep >the plane
oops won't wash, I remember the dz party jumpers and worst trashers as being
the ones setting out last loads to get at the student beer when the otter left
the ground and the beer light went on, generally making fewer jumps maybe 2 or
3 a weekend to keep up appearances ;)P
Jerry K.
>>If you wish to be a truely great skydiver
>> ~you must do good unto evil~
>
>>Airtime doesn't hurt either.
>>>
>
>>>Nope and if yer gonna git a lotta airtime
>>>you may have to forgive perceived wrongs and jump with a few people ya
>>really
>>>don't care for, such is life son
>>
>>You see - there's another difference - I actually like the people I
>>jump with and if I don't, it's only because I probably just don't know
>>them.
>>
>>...bsrp
>>...jlk
>>
>>
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHA its your'e lie kid,
>tell it as big as you want to.
Spin it anyway you like, Jimmy - you're not a skydiver and you don't
go to dropzones so you don't have a clue.
...bsrp
...jlk
Vedfolnir
>>>jump with and if I don't, it's only because I probably just don't know
>>>them.
>>>
>>>...bsrp
>>>...jlk
>
all?>HAHAHAHAHAHAHA its your'e lie kid,
>>tell it as big as you want to.
>
>Spin it anyway you like, Jimmy - you're not a skydiver and you don't
>go to dropzones so you don't have a clue.
>
>...bsrp
>...jlk
>
I was a skydiver, been around the world understand other cultures in general
human nature in particular and how slowly it changes...I don't go to DZ's
because I cain't jump anymore.........thats the only reason I went in the first
place as far as having a clue...thats why I'm a philosopher
;-)
Jerry K.
>>Yawl gitting drunk & trashing out the dz >again?
>>
>>It happens
>
>>That wud come under Management like >you know "Being a DZO and forgiving."
>>
>
>>I think to be a DZO you have to be very >forgiving - certainly of the
>>the raucous skydivers who by day keep >the plane
>
>oops won't wash, I remember the dz party jumpers and worst trashers as being
>the ones setting out last loads to get at the student beer when the otter left
>the ground and the beer light went on,
But, it does. You see - the plane was still flying despite their
sitting on the ground and the worst trashers were simply those who
started early, thus building a rep of being drunken while others were
still sobet enough to be aware of it.
>generally making fewer jumps maybe 2 or
>3 a weekend to keep up appearances
The plane was still flying, they were still at the dz keeping things
going - on the ground and in the air - not all wrapped up in
jumpjumpjump but possibly spending time giving back, dirt-diving,
answering questions, and explaing things. You're just spinning a
caste - these same people were probably the same who were giving you
your ration of shit while you were struggling to bag your main.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
>> I actually like the people I
>>>>jump with and if I don't, it's only because I probably just don't know
>>>>them.
>>>>
>>>>...bsrp
>>>>...jlk
>>
>
>all?>HAHAHAHAHAHAHA its your'e lie kid,
>>>tell it as big as you want to.
>>
>>Spin it anyway you like, Jimmy - you're not a skydiver and you don't
>>go to dropzones so you don't have a clue.
>>
>>...bsrp
>>...jlk
>>
>I was a skydiver,
Woopty shit. I *am* a skydiver. (also woopty shit) The difference
is when you suggest that it's a lie that I suggest that I like the
people I jump with is that I'm the guy who's there while you're not.
I know what's going on while you can only imagine.
>been around the world understand other cultures in general
Yeah, yeah - me too. Woopty shit (again).
>human nature in particular and how slowly it changes...
Big, fat, hairy deal. The difference here is that I have more time in
the sport and my time in the sport is, unlike yours, still current.
My take on reality is based on fact and empirical experience over a
greater period than you experienced whereas yours, you yourself
engineered its stunting some time ago.
>I don't go to DZ's
>because I cain't jump anymore....
Yeah, reasons aside because they have nothing to do with the argument
at hand, you still don't go to dz's and don't have a clue about
anything skydiving, much less knowing what is truth and what is not
when it comes to my suggestion that I like the people I jump with.
>.....thats the only reason I went in the first
>place as far as having a clue...
Like I said, your reasons are your reasons but they have no bearing on
what is reality and what you imagine reality to be.
>thats why I'm a philosopher
Which, of course, was pegged by Mel Brooks years ago as a "Bullshit
Artist," by any other name.
...bsrp
...jlk
Vedfolnir
>Which, of course, was pegged by Mel >Brooks years ago as a "Bullshit
>Artist," by any other name.
>
Anything worth doing is worth doing well...
REMEMBER THAT
snuffy told ya
Vedfolnir
>jump with and if I don't, it's only because I >probably just don't know them.
>...bsrp
And I actually like skydivers or I wuddn't
waste so much time talking to them on wreck trying to improve their
inelligence! ;-*
Vedfolnir
the >worst trashers
> Yeah, generally making fewer jumps maybe 2 or 3 a weekend to keep up
appearances then drinking up all the beer
in sight
>The plane was still flying, they were still >at the dz keeping things
>going - on the ground and in the air - not >all wrapped up in
>jumpjumpjump
The planes still flying cause the up jumpers and student base is supporting
the operation.
>these same people were probably the >same who were giving you
>your ration of shit while you were >struggling to bag your main.
>
Nope it was deguello types, RW Queens with vinegar for blood, a few ragged out
old guys from the days of rounds and
Mike Smiths who was a younger guy than I on going training programs past
student status and sure a lotta ground time doing grunge work that taught me
the most plus airtime, airtime, airtime
polishs everything up...Shit so many un named people quite a few dead by now
helped me along the way even though I took every chance along the way to be
annoying. I couldn't fail to buy into the old give back system hook line and
sinker ;-*
Jerry K.
>>You see - the plane was still flying >despite their sitting on the ground and
>the >worst trashers
>
>> Yeah, generally making fewer jumps maybe 2 or 3 a weekend to keep up
>appearances then drinking up all the beer
>in sight
>
>>The plane was still flying, they were still >at the dz keeping things
>>going - on the ground and in the air - not >all wrapped up in
>>jumpjumpjump
>
>The planes still flying cause the up jumpers and student base is supporting
>the operation.
As are the others - even those making 2-3 jumps a weekend.
>
>>these same people were probably the >same who were giving you
>>your ration of shit while you were >struggling to bag your main.
>>
>
>Nope it was deguello types, RW Queens with vinegar for blood, a few ragged out
>old guys from the days of rounds and
>Mike Smiths who was a younger guy than I on going training programs past
>student status and sure a lotta ground time doing grunge work that taught me
>the most plus airtime, airtime, airtime
Hmmm...a lot of groudn time teaches...a lot of airtime teaches...you
think that *both* are relevant? This is an admission!
>polishs everything up...Shit so many un named people quite a few dead by now
>helped me along the way even though I took every chance along the way to be
>annoying. I couldn't fail to buy into the old give back system hook line and
>sinker
Which doesn't explain the utter LACK of a SL rating nor does it
explain that when you did try to give back (organizing, if you want to
call it that - more like clusterfucking) you were told to get a clue
and change your ways.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
>> I'm a philosopher
>
>>Which, of course, was pegged by Mel >Brooks years ago as a "Bullshit
>>Artist," by any other name.
>>
>
>Anything worth doing is worth doing well...
> REMEMBER THAT
That goes for landings too.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
>>I actually like the people I
>>jump with and if I don't, it's only because I >probably just don't know them.
>
>>...bsrp
>
>And I actually like skydivers or I wuddn't
>waste so much time talking to them on wreck trying to improve their
>inelligence!
Given, but it's also given that the fact that skydivers still skydive
despite your absence and it chafes you to no end.
...bsrp
...jlk
Vedfolnir
>waste so much time talking to them on >wreck trying to improve their
>inelligence!
>
>Given, but it's also given that the fact that skydivers still skydive
>despite your absence and it chafes you to no end.
>
>...bsrp
>...jlk
Nope...what I do here was a big part of the sport at the time...plus I'm saving
a lotta money staying at home and disbursing
excellent wisdom over the internet
I do miss the funnels though but the resulting discomfort & whinning is
avaliable here on wreck <g>
Vedfolnir
from >the days of rounds
>Hmmm...a lot of groudn time teaches...a lot of airtime teaches...you
>think that *both* are relevant?
Yup ya gotta have both....but yer confusing yer little little beer mooching
party jumping buddies as teachers...They mostly stumbled around drunk trashing
stuff out and keepin their elders awake at night or hung over the next day
walking around looking for advil & sympathy tripping over lines while up
jumpers were trying to flake.
>quite a few people helped me along the >way even even though as you see I
have some annoying opinions on the sport ;)
>Which doesn't explain the utter LACK of >a SL rating
I made the decision never to take a nickle from the sport, to remain a pure fun
jumper. SL/JM's were gitting 5 dollars
a student...not much by todays standards or even AFF payscales of the time
but still, take it and your'e a bought man...
The GM owns your soul...so I did it another way.
>organizing, if you want to
>call it that - more like clusterfucking) you >were told to get a clue
>and change your ways
yuh Novice megga ways were out...I just cuddn't say no to the kids....the rule
layed on me was a D for each 3 novices in the formation still I wudda got away
with it till the coaching rule came along if I hadn't
suffered a CVA stroke and retired....had a lotta people who liked me although
they bitched a lot, I cud get enuff D's to go along to get a otterload of
novices off on at
least a 20 way zoo! ;) The worst ones I made do line abreast fly arounds to
gain altitude & docking disipline before I let them back on the zoo...We made
more noise in the dirt dives than points turned in the air...nobody ever got an
Eagle or Falcon due to my efforts but what the hell
somebody seemed to care about them and I got to tell some tall tales... had a
lotta fun
messing with them kids so their was some payback
>give back?
yuh I cuddn't teach them much cause they were all over the sky chasing each
other..
But its about fun and they were having fun
and learning a few survival skills ~if they survived that is~ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
SkydiverRick
> I do miss the funnels though
> Go to the dz & pay to learn correct skydiving this is >not the place
That's because it was your best talent.
Vedfolnir
>The planes still flying cause the up >jumpers and student base is supporting
>the operation.
>As are the others - even those making >2-3 jumps a weekend.
yeah as long as their not just there for the beer...DZ's need skydivers who
contribute to stay afloat...not just a student base and a few up jumpers, the
best DZ's have a balance of students, true fun jumpers and serious ass
competiton types...When it gets overloaded with bums just showing up
trying to get something for nothing or just party or for the beer its gonna go
downhill
The main reason for going to the DZ should be to jump...OK I'm a purist, a
lotta people
calling theirselves skydivers need to check
their motives I'm thinking...Might improve the USPA and the sport. Not fair to
them really I know the sport takes over peoples lifes and they end up junkies
with no place else to go....Are they contributing IS THE QUESTION ON THE TABLE
ooooorah
Jerry K.
>>I actually like skydivers or I wuddn't
>>waste so much time talking to them on >wreck trying to improve their
>>inelligence!
>>
>
>>Given, but it's also given that the fact that skydivers still skydive
>>despite your absence and it chafes you to no end.
>>
>>...bsrp
>>...jlk
>
>Nope...what I do here was a big part of the sport at the time...
What, inane drivel? Well, okay - granted, but the difference is that
if you tried the 'holier than thou' crap back then, (and now) the
outcome usually revolved around the lines of your own due ration of
shit right back atcha with hardcore instructions go out and start
buying your beer because you've been promising more than you could
deliver and going low on the 'formations' for a good, long time now.
I ain't seen no beer yet.
>plus I'm saving
>a lotta money staying at home and disbursing
>excellent wisdom over the internet
Replacing friend computers soaked in Zima notwithstanding. Still, all
about the bottom line, eh? Which business operators and what national
organization for some amateur sport does that sound suspiciously like,
hmm?
>I do miss the funnels though but the resulting discomfort & whinning is
>avaliable here on wreck
What, you're whining about funnels now? You've got funnels galore.
Every time you open your mouth in here it's pretty much you diving out
the door, inside center, early on the count, legs stretched almost as
far as your toes, and a death-grip on the what might have been a clean
launch. I'm the guy rolling the video while explaining what doomed
the launch while you're that guy (and every dropzone has one) who
doesn't listen, thinks he knows it all, and could never imagine that
his actions and attitudes would ultimately eject him from the sport
sooner or later.
...bsrp
...jlk
Vedfolnir
>I do miss the funnels though ;)
>That's because it was your best talent.
>"Skydiver Rick"
True even though I mostly jumped front float and all they hadda do was form up
on me I was involved in every funnel, gives one a certain sense of power
knowing;
~hey if I go you all go~
kinda like being an atom in a chain reaction ROFL
Vedfolnir
>
>What, inane drivel?
No......annoying self important people ;)P
Jerry K.
>>deguello types, RW Queens with vinegar >for blood, a few ragged out old guys
>from >the days of rounds
>
>>Hmmm...a lot of groudn time teaches...a lot of airtime teaches...you
>>think that *both* are relevant?
>
>Yup ya gotta have both....but yer confusing yer little little beer mooching
>party jumping buddies as teachers...They mostly stumbled around drunk trashing
>stuff out and keepin their elders awake at night or hung over the next day
>walking around looking for advil & sympathy tripping over lines while up
>jumpers were trying to flake.
You forget the wisdom dispensed around the bonfire while having a beer
or six and everyone has something to teach - be it informational or
anecdotal.
>
>
>>quite a few people helped me along the >way even even though as you see I
>have some annoying opinions on the sport ;)
Annoying - hell, a low cileing is annoying. Ridiculous is more like
it and in that respect, ridiculous is pretty damn amusing.
>
>>Which doesn't explain the utter LACK of >a SL rating
>
>I made the decision never to take a nickle from the sport, to remain a pure fun
>jumper. SL/JM's were gitting 5 dollars
>a student...
Money? No one was holding a gun to your head. You coulda done it and
given the money back or donated it to charity or whatever. No, the
real reason is you didn't have what it took. Barely 200 jumps, a
still wet D, demonstrated inability to learn to take the advice from
people who had been there before you, a remarkable propensity to try
to lay blame anywhere but yourself when you screwed the pooch - sure,
I guess it would be tough to find an instructor to help you along.
Probably have to get some poor unsuspecting bastard from out of state.
>not much by todays standards or even AFF payscales of the time
>but still, take it and your'e a bought man...
No paycheck comes with a gun demanding it be taken. Shoulda refused
it or given it back to the student or to charity. You need a better
excuse than, "they woulda paid me!"
>The GM owns your soul...so I did it another way.
Hogwash.
>
>>organizing, if you want to
>>call it that - more like clusterfucking) you >were told to get a clue
>>and change your ways
>
>yuh Novice megga ways were out...I just cuddn't say no to the kids....the rule
>layed on me was a D for each 3 novices in the formation still I wudda got away
>with it till the coaching rule came along if I hadn't
>suffered a CVA stroke and retired....
Coulda woulda shoulda...but I'm thinking that over time more woulda
got around about how your dives tended towards the cluster fucked and
not just people who jumped with you who moved on and jumped with
others, would come a day when only the naive and the tourist would be
fooled into going up with you on a jump.
>had a lotta people who liked me although
>they bitched a lot, I cud get enuff D's to go along to get a otterload of
>novices off on at
>least a 20 way zoo! ;)
Ever stop to think that the other D's might be motivated by jumping
with the novices as opposed to being "got to go along" by you?
>The worst ones I made do line abreast fly arounds to
>gain altitude & docking disipline before I let them back on the zoo...We made
>more noise in the dirt dives than points turned in the air...nobody ever got an
>Eagle or Falcon due to my efforts but what the hell
>somebody seemed to care about them and I got to tell some tall tales... had a
>lotta fun
>messing with them kids so their was some payback
Nothing wrong with fun or even payback. Everything wrong in
pretending to a bunch of naive beginners (or anyone else fooled by
that routine) that you knew how to organize when you clearly did not.
>
>>give back?
>
>yuh I cuddn't teach them much cause they were all over the sky chasing each
>other..
What - how to go low? Seems to me that them all over the sky chasing
each other was a learning process unto themselves despite your
attentions unless you're saying the fact that they were all over the
sky was due in no small part to your pretense of being an organizer?
>But its about fun and they were having fun
>and learning a few survival skills ~if they survived that is~
Nothing wrong with that either and agreed - it is all about fun but
what about those that got injured? Fun for all, eh?
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
>>The plane was still flying,
>
>>The planes still flying cause the up >jumpers and student base is supporting
>>the operation.
>
>>As are the others - even those making >2-3 jumps a weekend.
>
>yeah as long as their not just there for the beer...
Well, I think if they make a jump it could be said that they're there
for something other than specifically the beer.
>DZ's need skydivers who
>contribute to stay afloat...not just a student base and a few up jumpers,
There's this lovely dz out in Vegas...
>the
>best DZ's have a balance of students, true fun jumpers and serious ass
>competiton types...
The best dz's are the dz's where people are happy to be jumping at -
everything esle is more representitive of what maybe you had going obn
around you when you were jumping and while there is nothing wrong with
that, it is not the only be all to end all.
>When it gets overloaded with bums just showing up
>trying to get something for nothing or just party or for the beer its gonna go
>downhill
What's overloaded?
>The main reason for going to the DZ should be to jump...
Nevermind going there to fuck with people, oh no, nevermind that.
>OK I'm a purist, a
>lotta people
>calling theirselves skydivers need to check
>their motives I'm thinking...
Motives, schmotives - who gives a rat's ass as long as they're there
jumping.
>Might improve the USPA and the sport.
Might improve (to an extent) in a broadening sense people's experience
at a dz but improving uspa comes from within and improving the sport
depends, like uspa, upon the jumper. Motives are beside the point.
>Not fair to
>them really I know the sport takes over peoples lifes and they end up junkies
>with no place else to go....
Fairness is also beside the point and becoing a junkie has much more
to do with the person than the sport.
>Are they contributing IS THE QUESTION ON THE TABLE
If they're at the dz, if they're jumping, they're contributing. Where
you been? When was your last jump?
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
>>Nope...what I do here was a big part of >the sport at the time...
>>
>
>>What, inane drivel?
>
>No......annoying self important people ;
What a coincidence! That's exactly what I'm doing! Who woulda thunk
it?
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
>>Vedfolnir wrote:
>>I do miss the funnels though ;)
>
>>That's because it was your best talent.
>>"Skydiver Rick"
>
>True even though I mostly jumped front float and all they hadda do was form up
>on me I was involved in every funnel, gives one a certain sense of power
>knowing;
Such is the role cast to those with inability.
>
>~hey if I go you all go~
"And if I funnel under, I'm taking you with me because I'll be damned
you all pull off a nice formation without me there to fuck it up."
>
>kinda like being an atom in a chain reaction
Atomic chain reaction, atom splitting off and splitting other atoms,
massive amounts of energy released, no concept of controlling the
reaction and utilizing the energy, reaction multiplies unchecked,
carnage. Yeah, I'd say that's kinda close.
...bsrp
...jlk
Vedfolnir
>it and in that respect, ridiculous is pretty >damn amusing.
>The GM owns your soul...so I did it >another way.
>
>Hogwash.
DZO kiss up
>Nothing wrong with fun or even payback. Everything wrong in
>pretending to a bunch of naive beginners (or anyone else fooled by
>that routine) that you knew how to organize when you clearly did not.
>
Just eat up with envie ain't ya kid.......
Care for some cheeze with that whine?
Vedfolnir
>What, inane drivel?
>No......annoying self important people ;
>
>What a coincidence! That's exactly what I'm doing! Who woulda thunk
>it?
>
>...bsrp
>...jlk
>
I think yer beginning to annoy the rest of
wreck cause I'm enjoying it also... keeping me talking so long I mean, ya ain't
a slick as you think you are sonnyboy...Prolly on a lotta shit lists this
minute...Most of them are USPA and they don't have long attention spans you
know...Make one think and ya made an enemy, they live mostly 60 sec. lives
o~;->
Vedfolnir
>Such is the role cast to those with >inability.
you know
>~hey if I go you all go~
>"And if I funnel under, I'm taking you with >me because I'll be damned
>you all pull off a nice formation without >me there to fuck it up.
there it is, but I was big and had a fast fall rate...somma the deguello wud
funnel before I got to them when they saw me coming in if I happened to be dive
out...
Power of Suggestion ((POWER)) heh :)
Jerry K.
>>Annoying - hell, a low cileing is >annoying. Ridiculous is more like
>>it and in that respect, ridiculous is pretty >damn amusing.
>
>>The GM owns your soul...so I did it >another way.
>>
>>Hogwash.
>
>DZO kiss up
Whiny bitch.
>
>
>>Nothing wrong with fun or even payback. Everything wrong in
>>pretending to a bunch of naive beginners (or anyone else fooled by
>>that routine) that you knew how to organize when you clearly did not.
>>
>
>Just eat up with envie ain't ya kid.......
>Care for some cheeze with that whine?
No, I've organized from time to time, at boogies even - not
regularlike because there are usually others around with a lot more
experience and ability than myself. Still, it happens every now and
then but I never took a bunch of lowtimers up together on a bigway.
Biggest thing I've organized is 20way and I think the lowest jump
number on it was 75 thereabouts - but I had organized 8way earlier
with that person on board and knew there'd be no problem. You're just
envious that I got away with jumping at uspa drozpones without being a
member for just shy of a year - and I woulda got away with it longer
because no one was the wiser until I reupped last month,
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
>>I was involved in every funnel, gives one a >certain sense of power
>
>>Such is the role cast to those with >inability.
>
> you know
>>~hey if I go you all go~
>
>>"And if I funnel under, I'm taking you with >me because I'll be damned
>>you all pull off a nice formation without >me there to fuck it up.
>
>there it is, but I was big and had a fast fall rate...somma the deguello wud
>funnel before I got to them when they saw me coming in if I happened to be dive
>out...
>Power of Suggestion
Naw, I think that was the smart folk turning and burning when they
noticed you were getting near.
...bsrp
...jlk
JimBo
>From: Jerry K. sky...@pdq.net
> You're just
>envious that I got away with jumping at uspa drozpones without being a
>member for just shy of a year - and I woulda got away with it longer
>because no one was the wiser until I reupped last month,
and......you re-upped to do a jump the loudmouth could only fantasize about.
Jim D-10154
Man small... why fall ? Skies call... thats all.
Jerry K.
>>what I do here was a big part of >the >sport at the time.
>
>>What, inane drivel?
>
>>No......annoying self important people ;
>>
>
>>What a coincidence! That's exactly what I'm doing! Who woulda thunk
>>it?
>>
>>...bsrp
>>...jlk
>>
>
>I think yer beginning to annoy the rest of
>wreck cause I'm enjoying it also...
Well, if you're getting something out of it - so much the better. As
for the rest, that's their own lookout. Killfile - probably, nasty
email - none of that yet, threaten to come down to Waller and rip my
head off and shit down my neck - hell, only one jackass threatened
that and he was too much of a lamo to even make the pretense of an
attempt to follow through. The excuses just made it worse.
>keeping me talking so long I mean,
That's not me doing, it's you. I ain't holding a gun to your head.
>ya ain't
>a slick as you think you are sonnyboy...
Slick enough to counter your lameass line of rhetoric, posturing, and
pretense. True, not saying much but I never claimed it was difficult
or that doing such was indicative of slick.
>Prolly on a lotta shit lists this
>minute...
Fine, fine. When I see the list (and who I might have for company on
the list) I'll give it another thought. Shit lists are for people who
need something tangible to remind them who to be annoyed with.
>Most of them are USPA and they don't have long attention spans you
>know...
Hell, as long as they aren't teamsters I'm not overly worried. "Oh
no! I pissed off members of a association which I happen to be a
member of!" They'll get over it.
>Make one think and ya made an enemy, they live mostly 60 sec. lives
Yeah, whatever. I don't make anyone do anything. No one does
anything unless they feel that thing is the thing to do.
...bsrp
...jlk
SkydiverRick
>....the rule layed on me was a D for each 3 novices in >the
> formation
>
> Go to the dz & pay to learn correct skydiving this is >not the place
Since the D's knew you, it probably limited you to 4 ways.
Jerry K.
>>Subject: Re: Remember this Jerry Dink party jumpers arn't up or fun jumpers
>>From: Jerry K. sky...@pdq.net
>
>> You're just
>>envious that I got away with jumping at uspa drozpones without being a
>>member for just shy of a year - and I woulda got away with it longer
>>because no one was the wiser until I reupped last month,
>
>and......you re-upped to do a jump the loudmouth could only fantasize about.
>
That's true but truth be told - I envy myself. I was pretty fucking
lucky to get invited on that one. Friends in low places.
BTW (fuel to the fire) I got pics from the event over at:
http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/skycamjlk/my_photos
The North Carolina stuff is for sale and the DVD of the event is
complete - available on video too and also for sale. Includes the
three training jumps, the jump into the event, ground footage at
Carolina SkySports and of course at the event too. BTW - the shots on
the site are low res and have not been cleaned up. The cleaned up
printed ones are really nice - the colors worked out.
Proceeds go towards my airplane ticket. I ain't gonna pretend
something high and mighty.
Let the party begin!
...bsrp
...jlk
Vedfolnir
>~hey if I go you all go~
>I'm taking you with me because I'll be >damned you all pull off a nice
formation >without me there to fuck it up.
>there it is, but its not often planned..shit
>just happens somma the deguello wud
>funnel before I got to them when they saw >me coming in smartly Power of
Suggestion I rukun ;)
>Naw, I think that was the smart folk >turning and burning when they
>noticed you were getting near.
>jlk
the skinny little pouges shudda lifted weights or ate more ice cream sundays..
anybody that kin't stand a minor bump in the air artta take up kniting or
something. Anyway it was nice to be over rather than under for a change heh heh
Might be why I always drew front front float and rarely got a diveout position
yew rukun? ;)P
Vedfolnir
>formation
>Since the D's knew you, it probably >limited you to 4 ways.
if their were some interesting big ways the other D's wanted in on yeah but 4
D's each
with 3 N's in tow add's up to 20 if their trying to dock nes pah? You really
have a problem with concept don't cha kid? ;)P
Vedfolnir
>Hogwash.
>DZO kiss up
>Whiny bitch.
>Nothing wrong with fun or even payback. >Everything wrong in
>pretending to a bunch of naive >beginners >(or anyone else fooled by that you
knew how to orginize routine)
They were, thats what makes it sweet...I'm just a old rascal I guess, take my
number away if you don't like it...Oh I forgot YOU CAIN'T ya ain't licenced
yerself half the time bitch o~;-*
SkydiverRick
> if their were some interesting big ways the other D's wanted in on
> yeah but 4 D's each
> with 3 N's in tow add's up to 20 if their trying to dock nes pah? You
> really have a problem with concept don't cha kid? ;)P
> the old Philosopher sez
> Go to the dz & pay to learn correct skydiving this is not the place
If you mean the concept of you in a 20 way, yes I do have a problem.
Vedfolnir
You
>really have a problem with concept don't >cha kid?
>If you mean the concept of you in a 20 >way, yes I do have a problem.
20 way was about as big as I went, got a double eagle on a 20 way...not a zoo
but the all D kind. Wanted to get the 2 point
36 way done before I retired for the golden
award....those were considered big ways back then and all that was avaliable in
the area. Waller wud do a 48 way weed wacker every year or so...but the mega
way haddn't been invented before I retired.
Wuddn't have got on one anyway...contrarty to poular belief I was
concerned about peoples safety...After Sandy got killed up at SDC, I knew my
instincts were right...Ya gotta draw the line on skydiver ego somewhere...those
century ways and above are to big, some good people have been killed on them ;(