When did rec become wreck?
Dave Littlewood
Move The Hook Turns OUT!! (long)".
This thread contained 46 post's. The content (nearly?) of all the
post's was on topic with very few insults. There was no mention of
sheep in the thread. There was no use of nearly indecipherable slang.
No discussion of how many fingers fit in which orifice. No one was
going to smell of anything for 3 days, but not more than 7.
When did this all change to become the soap opera that rec.skydiving
is today?
Dave
Cloud buster
>When did this all change to become the soap opera that rec.skydiving
>is today?
<laughing> One clean thread does not a clean, sensible, informative news group
make.
Duke
david rickerby
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Ramon
the people that post, bitch, flame and whine the most, jump the least.
ha
ramon
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travis...@mail.boisestate.edu
May we all NOT be remembered for that thread.
-shane
O Cuinn Mac an Ghabbann
> is today?
>>
>> Dave
Always has been....It just has a conductor
now....take that whining shit yer praticing
right now....go eat sum cheeze...I'll point my baton at ya when I need a high C
;)P
~All living holds suffering
Misery stops when greed stops~
Ramon
news:20021209183850...@mb-mq.aol.com...
> Always has been....It just has a conductor
> now....take that whining shit yer praticing
> right now....go eat sum cheeze...I'll point my baton at ya when I need a
high C
> ;)P
>
> ~All living holds suffering
> Misery stops when greed stops~
yuk yuk yuk yuk
ramon
Mick Ronson
Dave Littlewood wrote:
Anything of real value was covered by 1996 or sooner. How many times can
you talk about the same thing? Except for the Professor getting the very
prestigious Godfrog award last year, nothing much has happened.
The last good post I read was from Nippleboy. Anyone remember him?
Mick Ronson
Ramon wrote:
> Weird..
> the people that post, bitch, flame and whine the most, jump the least.
> ha
> ramon
Like over at DZ.COM. The last time I looked, which was months ago, Aggie
Dave had about 1000 posts and 90 jumps. He was explaining, incorrectly, all
about hook turns. He apparently had a D license in posting and an A license
in jumping (2 of his postings must have been done at night).
JimBo
>From: Mick Ronson
>Like over at DZ.COM. The last time I looked, which was months ago, Aggie
>Dave had about 1000 posts and 90 jumps.
So youre ragging us and DZ.com ?
How many jumps you got Mick ?
How many you made this year ?
jim
D-10154
All around nice guy.
Man small... why fall ? Skies call... thats all.
Mick Ronson
experience (and offer advice). Guess I never really got into the social
aspect of this board. I'd rather talk to friends around the fire.
To answer your question, I've got 4300 jumps total and about 400 this year. I
post about 20 times a year.
Mr. Anonymous
>> How many you made this year ?
>>
>> jim
>> D-10154
>To answer your question, I've got 4300 jumps total and about 400 this year.
>400 this year.
The mark of a whore....huh Jimho?
unfokkingbelievable ;> don coyote
JimBo
>I'm ragging people in general that post compulsively but have little or no
>experience (and offer advice).
But your recent statements...in general... affect everyone here.
When you make a comment like your most recent you , discount the people who do
contribute and have the experience.
At the campfire would you walk up and make a blanket statement about them
because one guy was being a goof?
>Guess I never really got into the social
>aspect of this board.
You should......I have met some pretty fine people from this board...and
believe it or not.....skydived with them too.
Separate the wheat from the chaff...it aint that hard.
Ramon
differnet kind of wreck over there.
same story though just lower grade level.
wait what am I thinking...just younger.. and more tits...
hahaha
"Mick Ronson" <Ronso...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Tom B
JimBo wrote in message <20021209201921...@mb-cj.aol.com>...
>
>>I'm ragging people in general that post compulsively but have little or no
>>experience (and offer advice).
>
>But your recent statements...in general... affect everyone here.
>When you make a comment like your most recent you , discount the people who
do
>contribute and have the experience.
>At the campfire would you walk up and make a blanket statement about them
>because one guy was being a goof?
Were it one guy, he probably would not. If on the other hand, he walked up
to the fire, and 90% of the conversation was blabbing bullshit, he might.
Note I said 90% of the conversation, not 90% of the people near the fire. I
freely admit that have been some of the problem the past couple of weeks. I
finally opened a kill file to thin out the junk, and to reduce my temptation
to be part of the problem. In the past 5 days, it has cut 172 messages.
Tom B
Mr. Anonymous
>Mick Ronson
>Guess I never really got into the social
>>aspect of this board.
>
>You should......I have met some pretty >fine people from this board...and
>believe it or not.....skydived with them >too. Separate the wheat from the
chaff...it >aint that hard.
>
> jim
>D-10154
...yew will find this place ain't like DZ.Com at all we git a bit more salty
cuz nun of us are goody goody two shoes....the older guys being mostly whores
and/or outlaws plus the sheepgods have a few more jumps & are ugly over
heer...Are yew gonna give them advice or join them and just whine?BTW care for
sum cheese to go with that whine yew've had so far?
unfokkingbelievable ;> don coyote
O Cuinn Mac an Ghabbann
> I freely admit that have been some of the >problem the past couple of weeks.
I
>finally opened a kill file to thin out the >junk, and to reduce my temptation
>to be part of the problem. In the past 5 >days, it has cut 172 messages.
>
no guts....no glory mutt ;-*
Cloud buster
>believe it or not.....skydived with them too.
Gee, thanks JimBo! What a swell thing to say! lol
Duck o death
ynotssor
[...]
> Anything of real value was covered by 1996 or sooner. How many times can
> you talk about the same thing? Except for the Professor getting the very
> prestigious Godfrog award last year, nothing much has happened.
>
> The last good post I read was from Nippleboy. Anyone remember him?
The mis-spelling of NippLboy is usually made by people who weren't there and
have only heard about the genius. Anyone who was there would remember the
distinction and why.
You're right about the time-frame, though. When Windows 95 came out in
August of that year, it was the first time in history MICROS~1 had made any
effort into any kind of networking, since the whole company product line was
never designed to communicate with other machines. That legacy still shows
every day.
People though were just enraptured that now they could get AOL as an ISP and
*even* do email! Golly gee, so the McDonald's of the computing world made
inexpensive TCP/IP available to the masses. Didja read read recently about
fat kid's lawyers suing the world's largest distributor of fatty foods for
making them the way they are? Same thing here. The fattest kids are whining
about good it used to be.
It wasn't just wreck daught that experienced exponential signal-to-noise
ratio declines with the incredibly increased increased amount of USENET
usage that happened as a result. We started seeing spam email in ungodly
proportions, network intrusions up the ass, and virii on a weekly basis.
We also saw, amongst all that increasing noise, even more evidence of
"intelligent life out there", sometimes even not life as we knew it. More
people were able to communicate there ideas in more free, uncensored forums
and USENET newsgroups than ever before, and the amount of diamonds just
laying around for the picking up also had exponential increase, only this
with positive exponents far greater than 1 and increasing continuously.
With all those increasing jewels of knowledge came an exponential increase
in the amount of sand and bird dung in which they are buried though, and
through which one has to sift.
That's why I like to order the deep-fried chicken gizzards with dry mustard
whipped up with a little tap beer, and a bunch more tap beer to wash 'em
down with. (Look at me end my sentence in a preposition!) I know those
chickens peck at all the shiny stuff, and I hope to one day find a diamond
or other carbon-based stone in them gizzards I'm eating.
Might have to buy a new tooth crown, but what the hell.
tony
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testicle terry
>>sirens going off in my ear. BECAUSE of my audible I was SAFELY under
canopy by
>>NO LESS than 600 feet. Plenty of time to hook it into the wind and
gently lan
WOW...thank God for the Dytter...A Dytter or a Cypress going off might
be a real good indicator of "LOSS OF ALTITUDE AWARNESS". (And your
freeflying!) Oh I forgot you caught up admiring the scenes after
breakoff..you didn't visually pick up you were low?
might wanna buy 2 dytters next time ...case the batteries are
bad...better yet set your alarm clock to remember to turn them
on...wait...better tie a piece of string around your finger to
remember to set your alarm clock...
i'm outta here...
terry
drive fast...take chances...
"Ramon" <ramon...@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:<at3bb0$4ie$1...@slb6.atl.mindspring.net>...
me
One of the awful parts of getting old is that you see patterns forming,
even amongst random data.
If there has been one constant in my life, it has been to watch
good things form, and be overwhelmed by folks that have no understanding
what makes them good, no interest in learning, and will take more than
they give until there isn't anything left to take. Then they'll bitch
that they didn't get their share.
An awful part of my life has been the awareness that at times I
may have been one of the takers. These days, when I find something
I think I can "make better", I tend to leave. Probably it means
I don't understand what is already there, and if I don't want to take
the time to learn, better I leave things as I found them.
It's like a pot luck. I've been part of groups that had potlucks.
Often they are started by folks who like to cook. They are really good,
good food and usually lots of it. Good food will attract people, even
people who don't like to cook. Then there will be more folks than food.
Some folks who come will bring stuff they bought at the deli counter,
which isn't bad but is sorta besides the point. Pretty soon the cooks
drop out for a variety of reasons, and the only folks left are the ones
that drop by the deli counter. That doesn't attract alot of new folks,
'cause they can just go by the deli counter themselves and take it
home. Ultimately, one day more folks show up than food and someone
ends up ordering a pizza or two. Pretty soon no one is coming.
I don't always like the direction that things have gone. But I do
have to ask myself if I've been actually bringing something to the
potluck lately or if I've just been dropping by the deli counter, or
worse yet, ordering the pizza. I used to write little stories, but
it's been awhile. I, and a half dozen others were the AAD attack squad
for a long time. But I haven't harrassed Buzz in a long time. I'm
more likely to be in some OT political discussion as of late, sorta
like ordering pizza when ya think about it.
Probably the best way to change things is to contribute. Overwhelm
the sheep herders with content. Somebody writes a "rant and rave"
column on their web page. Nothing prevents any of you riggers from
doing a weekly/monthly/daily posting about your current pet peeve.
How 'bout the rigging horror story of the week? All you AFF/JM's
can tell more than one NSTIWSH yarn I'm sure. Surely all you lawn
darts could scare up at least one decent jump from the weekend to share.
Parachutist comes out once a month and usually has at least one really
moronic letter in it. We could easily have a "moronic nomination" every
month just for giggles.
Kevin O'Connell
Jldorman5486
moronic letter in it. We could easily have a "moronic nomination" every
month just for giggles. >>
My vote for the "moronic nomination" letter in the Dec. Parachutist magazine is
The Third Degree. This guy expects for others to research and make sure that
he gets the rig that is right for his experience level and needs. (The guy
sounds like he would blame others if he "forgot" to pull, too!) He needs to
put some effort into researching and making his own educated decisions using
his own good judgment. Manufactures have information that describe and even
lay out in charts the weight and experience level that their canopies are best
suited for. He shouldn't be jumping if he isn't mentally capable of taking
responsibilities for himself.
Loved the freeflying photos in this edition and the feature on Stefania
Martinengo!
Curious as to weather I have met Mike Zban who is shown in one of the photos.
Anyone know him? I think I've met him (nice guy) at Skydive San Marcos.
Lana
(deli counter contributor)
Mr. Anonymous
>(deli counter contributor)
>
and Jezabell
unfokkingbelievable ;> don coyote
David Ferree
>The mis-spelling of NippLboy is usually made by people who weren't there and
>have only heard about the genius. Anyone who was there would remember the
>distinction and why.
Ah. Tony is Nippleboy.
ynotssor
>
>> The mis-spelling of NippLboy is usually made by people who weren't there and
>> have only heard about the genius. Anyone who was there would remember the
>> distinction and why.
>
> Ah. Tony is Nippleboy.
I'm certainly a fan of nipples ...
Mr. MOM
>good things form, and be overwhelmed by folks that have no understanding
>what makes them good, no interest in learning, and will take more than
>they give until there isn't anything left to take. Then they'll bitch
>that they didn't get their share.
<<Snip the rest of a fairly profound post>>
WOW.......very nice Kevin. I haven't seen the current state of our sport,
explained with such analogous accuracy in quite some time.
USPA SUCKS ----- Because some pigs are more equal than other pigs
Mr. MOM
Still waiting for USPA to toss my sorry ass out.
The only guarantee in Skydiving is ... you WILL land !
RIPOLLAK
>is
>The Third Degree. This guy expects for others to research and make sure that
>he gets the rig that is right for his experience level and needs. (The guy
>sounds like he would blame others if he "forgot" to pull, too!) He needs to
>put some effort into researching and making his own educated decisions using
>his own good judgment. Manufactures have information that describe and even
>lay out in charts the weight and experience level that their canopies are
>best
>suited for. He shouldn't be jumping if he isn't mentally capable of taking
>responsibilities for himself.
>
One of the few downsides of not belonging to USPA can't read them silly
letters.
But now we got cyber space! So we get to read the silly stuff and even see a
picture of the folks writing it.
R.I.P.
BTW my guess is the Canopy size guy already made his decision just want's to
see his name in the mag.
Tom Hansen
!! In the begining there was a lot of good 'n sensible articles to learn
from.
Now'a'days it's more or less filling out the space in between.
Gets me a bit bored
Se ya in another half year - cause if it's like the soaps, i haven't missed
out on anything !! ;-)
Blue Skies
&
More Stacks
Tom DK C-850
"Dave Littlewood" <dmlitt...@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:48c31dc3.02120...@posting.google.com...
> I have just read a thread from January 1999, the subject was "Time To
> Move The Hook Turns OUT!! (long)".
> This thread contained 46 post's. The content (nearly?) of all the
> post's was on topic with very few insults. There was no mention of
> sheep in the thread. There was no use of nearly indecipherable slang.
> No discussion of how many fingers fit in which orifice. No one was
> going to smell of anything for 3 days, but not more than 7.
>
> When did this all change to become the soap opera that rec.skydiving
> is today?
>
> Dave
ynotssor
> Maybe what you write about, is the reason i hardly ever more
> read this group !!
Ya gotta really enjoy these people who say they never "read this group"
anymore, but as soon as a thread like this pops up they're right
onto it without delay.
tony
bigjim
accurate is a little bit goofy. Anyone who makes a, or part of a decision,
that can very easily effect the length of their life on information obtained
here on the wreck is totally out of their fucking mind. It's all about
entertainment, boys and girls.
LORD OF THE SKY
<ynotssor> wrote in message news:3df67...@corp.newsgroups.com...
>
> Ya gotta really enjoy these people who say they never "read this group"
> anymore, but as soon as a thread like this pops up they're right
> onto it without delay.
The new in vogue statement.."I never read the rec." has replaced :"I
never watch T.V.".
Hey,... did I mention that I've killfiled all who post here
excepting myself?
That way I get straight to the good stuff and avoid all that crap!
"Treetop" a.k.a. LORD OF THE SKY
Joe Walther
"LORD OF THE SKY" <lord...@ellijay.com> wrote in message
news:at5vd...@enews3.newsguy.com...
>
> <ynotssor> wrote in message news:3df67...@corp.newsgroups.com...
> >
> > Ya gotta really enjoy these people who say they never "read this group"
> > anymore, but as soon as a thread like this pops up they're right
> > onto it without delay.
>
> The new in vogue statement.."I never read the rec." has replaced :"I
> never watch T.V.".
Walther responds...
Is this sort of like what was said of Playboy Magazine 25-years ago? "I only
read Playboy for the great editorial pieces."
Regards
Walther
LORD OF THE SKY
Jldorman5486 <jldorm...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20021210084128...@mb-fd.aol.com...
>
>
> My vote for the "moronic nomination" letter in the Dec. Parachutist
magazine is
> The Third Degree. This guy expects for others to research and make sure
that
> he gets the rig that is right for his experience level and needs.
Uhhm... Lana,
His letter was about his concern that untrained people may easily
obtain skydiving gear.
It may be fun if we also nominate a monthly "Most Excellent Moronic
Post" !
Tom B
>
>Is this sort of like what was said of Playboy Magazine 25-years ago? "I
only
>read Playboy for the great editorial pieces."
>
Well Duh Joe, of course we read it for more than the editorials. The
cartoons and jokes were first rate! For pictures we bought Penthouse. :)
Tom B
Michael Peat
Joe Walther wrote in message ...
LORD OF THE SKY
Joe Walther <jlwal...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ikOdnSpZv7j...@comcast.com...
>
> Walther responds...
>
> Is this sort of like what was said of Playboy Magazine 25-years ago? "I
only
> read Playboy for the great editorial pieces."
I don't subscribe to Playboy.
To much "fluff".
Kinda like Parachutist compared to skydiving.
I subscribe to "Jugs".
Jldorman5486
It may be fun as well to nominate the "Most Moronic National Director" if, by
some ungodly misfortune, you are actually elected! :P Oh, people are actually
going to nominate you just for the entertainment value of watching a "Most
Moronic National Director" make a decent organization run amuck. With you as a
National Director it will certainly be bedlam.
I hope that you get your butt kicked and your teeth knocked out on fight night!
Lana
LORD OF THE SKY
> << Uhhm... >> Condescending imbecile!
>
> It may be fun as well to nominate the "Most Moronic National Director" if,
by
> some ungodly misfortune, you are actually elected! :P Oh, people are
actually
> going to nominate you just for the entertainment value of watching a "Most
> Moronic National Director" make a decent organization run amuck. With you
as a
> National Director it will certainly be bedlam.
>
> I hope that you get your butt kicked and your teeth knocked out on fight
night!
Now We're Talkin'!
I love pushing your buttons and watching you writhe like that. It's
so Hot!!Don't stop Lana... I'm almost there!
Martin Evans
jldorm...@aol.com (Jldorman5486) wrote:
> << Parachutist comes out once a month and usually has at least one really
> moronic letter in it. We could easily have a "moronic nomination" every
> month just for giggles. >>
>
>
> My vote for the "moronic nomination" letter in the Dec. Parachutist magazine
> is
> The Third Degree. This guy expects for others to research and make sure that
> he gets the rig that is right for his experience level and needs. (The guy
> sounds like he would blame others if he "forgot" to pull, too!) He needs to
> put some effort into researching and making his own educated decisions using
> his own good judgment. Manufactures have information that describe and even
> lay out in charts the weight and experience level that their canopies are
> best
> suited for. He shouldn't be jumping if he isn't mentally capable of taking
> responsibilities for himself.
You might want to go back and read that letter again!
BO
SS
Martin
Dave Littlewood
Just some people can't use it. Like students or people that cannot think for
themselves.
Dave
"bigjim" <big...@the-beach.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:uvcvc3c...@corp.supernews.com...
Mr. Anonymous
>Anyone????
>Just some people can't use it. Like >students or people that cannot think for
>themselves.
we do it on purpose to weed peope with
attention deflict orders out...theirs always a nugget here and there.....they
gotta dig
for them, I like to hide mine in long mindless threads....perhaps the anals
shud ask their doctor for a Riddlen script
so they can hang with the hooligans and learn how not to do shit
unfokkingbelievable ;> don coyote
AirAnn
> Ramon wrote:
>
> > Weird..
> > the people that post, bitch, flame and whine the most, jump the least.
> > ha
> > ramon
>
> Like over at DZ.COM. The last time I looked, which was months ago, Aggie
> Dave had about 1000 posts and 90 jumps. He was explaining, incorrectly, all
> about hook turns. He apparently had a D license in posting and an A license
> in jumping (2 of his postings must have been done at night).
I know AggieDave to be a relatively decent guy. I currently dont know
what his current rankings are (jump #s or license status). But I do
know that not everything you read here on Wreck Dot or on dropzone.com
is totally accurate for all circumstances and persons. If a low # guy
is explaining anything about anything consider the source and move on.
He will learn. He has more than 90 jumps tho. And he reguarly
receives coaching.
However, I feel your pain on inaccurate or inflated info, in general.
Its a real burr under my saddle. I feel for me it must be an exercise
in Anger Management, Self Control, and patience. (patience for me
means they know the proceedure 'give em enough rope...' learn by
mistakes, if you dont want to listen)
I currently have issues with a dz person who walks on water. If I did
what this one does, I would be seriously 'talked to' in a
unmistakeable stern manner. Certianly nobody would jump with me.
Reason, I am guessing: I know better than to do that crap and I am
cute, BUT- This one is just overwhelmingly cute, therefore this one's
indangering all and self is all just seen as very, very funny. (over
and over on video) Look how cute I am corking into ___. Look how cute
I am when I ran into ___'s rig and flipped him into ___. Et. Ad
Nauseum
My problem for sure. I guess I just serious about my skydiving.
Skratch Garrison
> Probably the best way to change things is to contribute.
Kevin I don't think it's possible, or at least likely.
Most of the people who used to say stuff and listen and
learn have left.
The last really clean effort to figure something out that
I can remember was the airspeed / ground speed / exit order
discussions that ended around 1995.
The automatic opener discussions were good, I still have
a lot of yours and other's posts, but they were also filled
with a lot of rant and anger and agenda.
It's gone down hill since then.
I sometimes see someone try to say something now, but it's
immediately followed by 35 posts full of giggle snort fart
sheep anger at roger anger at uspa ..
About a year ago I gave up and tried kill files. Those worked
with the trn that I started reading news with in the 80's,
but I was using Netscape and it would crash when I tried to
create a kill file, so I gave up.
I still come by here a couple times a week because it's hard
to let go of something that once had real meaning, but it's
mostly to mark threads read, and there's no longer any
enthusiasm or anticipation.
I've been hanging out over at dropzone.com the last few weeks.
It reminds me somewhat of how rec.skydiving used to be,
although the volume is huge, too much to keep up with, and the
people seem to have gotten really young :-) :-)
I guess I'll keep stopping by here until I just let go and
fade away.
Thanks for all you posts and insights and stories.
Skr
travis...@mail.boisestate.edu
> [...] just for the entertainment value of watching a "Most
> Moronic National Director" make a decent organization run amuck.
I think the general consensus was that he would be one of the
least moronic directors, truly representing the interrests of
skydivers, but his style scares a lot of people.
-shane