Anyone here from the Ranch in Gardiner?
Danielle
the unknown flailer
Danielle wrote:
> just wondering if anyone here was from my "homeland"
Oh, yer a yankee....thought ya was one of the GU beginners
Jerry K.
wrote:
>just wondering if anyone here was from my "homeland"
I've jumped there - great people, great dz. Ran into Sonic at
Nationals.
...bsrp
...jlk
Danielle
voila!
Danielle wrote:
> just wondering if anyone here was from my "homeland"
Jerry K.
wrote:
>yeah. hes ok. runs a good gear store
Good to hear. If you run into him tell him Jerry from Texas says hi.
Thanks!
-Jerry
Danielle
running around in diapers. It depends how long you've been there.
me
> Its danielle, lindas daughter. you may remember me teaching you, or
> running around in diapers. It depends how long you've been there.
Post the recent naked jpegs please
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Danielle
the dropzone, helping my mom teach. and mowing the feilds grass with my
dad.
voila!
hi Danielle, I thought it was you. There aren't any other Danielles
there.
me
Most people would've used a lawnmower, but ya never know what those
wheelbarrow races will degrade into.
Danielle
Danielle
> Most people would've used a lawnmower, but ya never know what those
> wheelbarrow races will degrade into.
assumed y'all would be able to understand that.
me
What can't be understood is your lack of humor, given that you've grown up
amongst skydivers.
It's obvious that you haven't yet grown up, so maybe you should go back
and sit on mommy and daddy's lap for a few more years, pretend that
you've done their work, then skydive for a few years and try visiting an
unmoderated newsgroup after you've seasoned a bit.
voila!
Mike Spurgeon
> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:51:48 -0800, Danielle wrote:
>
>
>>>Most people would've used a lawnmower, but ya never know what those
>>>wheelbarrow races will degrade into.
>>
>>not funny, or appreciated. I would ride on the tractor with him. i
>>assumed y'all would be able to understand that.
>
>
> What can't be understood is your lack of humor, given that you've grown up
> amongst skydivers.
What can be understood is, having grown up around skydivers, she
recognizes assholes when they show up...
the unknown flailer
Hummmmmm pretty astute observation even for a Wizard, you notice she
ain't talking to nobody west or south of there and that be where all
the old fart commentators are Mike...you being the furthest West and
most experienced at what you mentioned can fly the big kahuna slot.
I'll just lurk and laugh
btw tell them your a yankee, that might help 0~;-*
me
> What can be understood is, having grown up around skydivers, she
> recognizes assholes when they show up...
Congratulations for the SRPOTW, pardner.
Danielle
young i was, the most recent jpeg of me naked would have been when i
was little. My father is not a cow, and does not eat grass.... his
nickname was lawnmower man before the movie came out... at the ranch,
everybody watched me and my dog grow up together. I shared two small
memories of mine that took place on my home DZ and you turned both of
them into offensive material.... sorry i enjoyed my childhood... guess
you just can't stand seeing people happy.
the unknown flailer
OK Mike I'm starting the count ~one~
Tom B
news:1111778501.4...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>"me" <m.est...@library.conm> wrote in message
>news:pan.2005.03.25....@library.conm...
>> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:16:44 -0800, Danielle wrote:
>>
>>> Its danielle, lindas daughter. you may remember me teaching you, or
>>> running around in diapers. It depends how long you've been there.
>>
>> Post the recent naked jpegs please
>
> diapers meaning when i was 10 months old... im only 15.
Hang around the web long enough Danielle, and a pedophile is guaranteed to
show up. :)
Shame he does not live in Cincinnati. That was almost enough to get Sheriff
Simon Leis off his ass. Just ask Larry Flint. :)
Tom B
the unknown flailer
Mike Spurgeon wrote:
> What can be understood is, having grown up around skydivers, she
> recognizes assholes when they show up...
~two~
the unknown flailer
Mike Spurgeon wrote:
>
> What can be understood is, having grown up around skydivers, she
> recognizes assholes when they show up...
~three one thousand~
Danielle
me
> May i ask why you are counting seconds until impact?
Because the number keeps increasing, in case you hadn't yet noticed.
the unknown flailer
me wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:12:43 -0800, Danielle wrote:
>
> > May i ask why you are counting seconds until impact?
>
> Because the number keeps increasing, in case you hadn't yet noticed.
Everybody on wreck under retirement age thinks I'm a mean old back
woods horses ass so I'm trying to be extremely fair with the Lodi
Wiz......In respect for his advanced age and contribution to the sport
over a lifetime, Mike gets A FIVE COUNT before receiving the punchline
and wedgie! 0~;) Snuffy the patron Saint of all flailers
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
>me wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:12:43 -0800, Danielle wrote:
>>
>> > May i ask why you are counting seconds until impact?
>>
>> Because the number keeps increasing, in case you hadn't yet noticed.
>
>Everybody on wreck under retirement age thinks I'm a mean old back
>woods horses ass
> so I'm trying to be extremely fair with the Lodi
>Wiz......In respect for his advanced age and contribution to the sport
>over a lifetime,
While I don't doubt Mike's experience, you're doing some mighty fine
butt-smooching there.
>Mike gets A FIVE COUNT before receiving the punchline
>and wedgie! 0~;) Snuffy the patron Saint of all flailers
You're not mean old backwoods.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
horses > >ass so i'm bending over backwards to be fair
> >Mike gets A FIVE COUNT before receiving the punchline
> >and wedgie! 0~;) Snuffy the patron Saint of all flailers
>
> You're not mean old backwoods.
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
So you concede I'm Saintly huh? 0~;-*
Tom B
"Jerry K." <sky...@pdq.net> wrote in message
news:1u8h41dhv8jhntb3h...@4ax.com...
>>Everybody on wreck under retirement age thinks I'm a mean old back
>>woods horses ass
>> so I'm trying to be extremely fair with the Lodi
>>Wiz......In respect for his advanced age and contribution to the sport
>>over a lifetime,
>
> While I don't doubt Mike's experience, you're doing some mighty fine
> butt-smooching there.
Mike probably had a candy bar in his pocket.
Tom B
the unknown flailer
Nah Bosuns justwalked up and flat took pogey bait away from jarheads.
I've kept a eye on Mike for 10 or 11 years...got really interested when
he lost that S&TA job on the "Serve at the pleasure of the Regional
Director" technicality after a close vote by the skydivers around the
dz....
You gotta understand how my mind works so I'm going like "Wow, he must
have all his shit in one bag if he managed to piss off a Regional
Director and possibly the USPA!" gotta admire that. Anyway he's done
OK, Rolled with the punchs and drove on-----my kind of Marine.
Lodi was a non GM/DZ at the time and probably still is cuz Bill appears
to be rather hot headed and independent, just about every outlaw dz
I've examined, including the perennial ones follow the USPA
guidelines....Mike got his TM/JM thru the gear mfg as everybody else
does I suppose but he held some USPA rating also over the years...the
old peckerwood has endurance...walking the tightrope between his non
GM/DZO and the USPA
mussta been interesting over the years...That he hasn't flipped out or
had a nervous breakdown shows some depth of charater imho...Jerry
Pucker butt
and these other young skygods wonder why they kin't get no respect,"Gee
Snuffy I wear booties, have 2500 jumps in 5 or 6 years , how about some
respect?" Nottttt I look at the whole person not just the D# or number
of jumps. These little modern shits seem to make a lot of quick jumps
but lack depth of knowedge, I kinda wonder about Jerrys airskills
sometime also
9 years in the sport and probably around 3000 jumps by now but he holds
no JM rate? WHATS UP WITH THAT Afraid of the AFF/JCC? Not just Jerry
but a lotta these kids don't seem to be well rounded at all, all flashy
talk, no substance...Perhaps the USPA should designate them Speck 4's
or start issuing them training bra's or something. HAW HAW HAW dayum
;)P
the unknown flailer
Mike Spurgeon wrote:
>
> What can be understood is, having grown up around skydivers, she
> recognizes assholes when they show up...
~four one thousand~
Tom B
"the unknown flailer" <kam...@eastex.net> wrote in message
news:1112090353.6...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Get ready boys, since he only works on one side, that loud kerplunk you are
about to hear is the sound of his boondocker hitting the floor when he gets
to six... :)
Tom B
the unknown flailer
ROFL ;)P
the unknown flailer
Mike Spurgeon wrote:
>
> What can be understood is, having grown up around skydivers, she
> recognizes assholes when they show up...
Must be right Mike, she hasn't responded to your post since it showed
up
(((PULL)))
Danielle
parachute, throw it away, look grab locate, pull, pull, arch. phew, it
was a good one.
the unknown flailer
Ya got it off a mite squirt...you Look, Reach, Pull... I went S/L and
hung strut... Hanging strut the arch was important as were your hand
and arm placement coming off...bad body position produced line twists
from hell
You old enough to skydive yet? I reckon so if one or both yer parents
works at the DZ? The Mullins kids started pretty early, younger than 15
I'm thinking. Probably going to go AFF and be a fancy pants girl huh?
In that case your circle of awarness will be as important as the LOOK
REACH PULL...The JM's ain't gonna wanna let go if your head appears to
be up your butt
Arching hard
Circle of awarness, wave off (let go of my harness ya AFF twits)
look, R e a c h, PULL. Good luck, fair winds and be carefull on that
reach...I reached to hard on my 10 sec FF it flipped on my back, a hard
arch brought me back belly to earth but the JM/I was standing outside
the hanger watching through binoculars counting the delay ~16 sec~ Anf
the exit was from 4500 ft hahaha Damn was he up set. I'll leave you
with what he said when he got thru cussing. "THE PULL IS THE MOST
IMPORTANT PART OF THE STUDENTS SKYDIVE DAMMIT" "You pull at your
assigned altitude next time or I'll run your ass off, now go do 10 sec
delays till you can do it right Gramps!" Whoaaaaa what a rush 0;->
Snuffy
the unknown flailer
YA YA I nailed the California kid
~don't mess with Texas~ 0~;)
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> YA YA I nailed the California kid
> ~don't mess with Texas~
Nevermind that you lived in California and ain't from Texas. Ain't
your fault - you gotta be lucky to be from here.
100 pushups for posing. Get after it.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
suck up
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
>Jerry K. wrote:
>> On 31 Mar 2005 04:31:35 -0800, "the unknown flailer"
>> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > YA YA I nailed the California kid
>> > ~don't mess with Texas~
>>
>> Nevermind that you lived in California and ain't from Texas. Ain't
>> your fault - you gotta be lucky to be from here.
>>
>> 100 pushups for posing. Get after it.
>>
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk
>
>suck up
Less quipping, more pushups.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On 31 Mar 2005 09:46:32 -0800, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Jerry K. wrote:
> >> On 31 Mar 2005 04:31:35 -0800, "the unknown flailer"
> >> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > YA YA I nailed the California kid
> >> > ~don't mess with Texas~
> >>
> >> Nevermind that you lived in California and ain't from Texas.
Ain't
> >> your fault - you gotta be lucky to be from here.
> >>
> >> 100 pushups for posing. Get after it.
> >>
> >> ...bsrp
> >> ...jlk
> >
> >suck up
>
> Less quipping, more pushups.
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
Suki
bigjim
> Everybody on wreck under retirement age thinks I'm a mean old back
Not me, for one. I think you are a phony ass, never was old queen
the unknown flailer
Suki
JPO
Discounted PROZAC avaliable for U.S. Skydivers being unhappy
with self, up here! ;-* JPO
Jerry K.
Yeah but it's all more than countered by how much more they charge in
Canada for jumps and video - don't even have enough bucks left over to
buy their own prozac for alleviating their lift-ticket sticker-shock
up there.
-btw-
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Pure comedy.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
yup he & his wife are staying in a Artic Fox fith wheel in my camp
rather than going on down to the Valley area this year and there's only
one telephone line and ISP coming in.
See unlike you city people, us rural folks are still pretty
hospitable....Why they didn't go down to the Vally this year ia a
really funny story when he trys to tell it in English...A lotta over 55
social shit goes on down there and their seems to be a mucho muy horny
wider women....he danced a little to close a few times....etc ;) ROFL
the unknown flailer
Could be some validity to that thought Biggy, much like you &
Jerry girl I towas once a member of the USPA...Being exposed to such a
shallow group of Americans.....A good many of whom act like skygods
and seem to think angrily out of their tight young chapped ass's
could havehad some effect on my thinking. YO HO here we go
~oh yeah, no doubt~
0~;)p
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
I think you're "thinking" was suspect to begin with - then there's the
other side of the coin - it very well could be considered that those
who you believed were acting like "skygods" and were "thinking angrily
out of their tight young chapped asses," were only appearing to be
such in direct response to the various instances where you for
example: Pulled well below 2K (nevermind where you were actually
licensed to pull at the time), eschewed exit seperation thus finding
yourself falling near, past, and lower than the formation out ahead of
you, tracking vertically thus putting yourself lower than others but
with negligible horizontal seperation in a vertically dynamic
environment, breaking off high from the formation you were on
(ostensibly because you were "bored") and chasing down the formation
ahead of you without them having prior knowledge that you were going
to do this resulting in you opening near their already opened
canopies, purposefully trying to flip formations because you were
again "bored," purposefully spotting so that some on the load would
have trouble making it back, attempting to organize 20way formations
stocked with a majority of very low-time skydivers, cutting and
running from the dz when the various due lumps to be delivered were
inbound, and justifying it all in various degrees through
rationalizing, shifting responsibility, blaming others, and even
excusing yourself because you were "more extreme" and wanted to take
things "to the edge." Sure, they might have been "skygods" while they
were caring enough to tear you a new asshole so you'd hopefully get a
clue, straighten up, and fly right - not to mention hopefully avoiding
you taking someone else out - but nevertheless - "skygods" or not -
you were selfish, self-serving, inconsiderate, and just outright
dangerous. Just one giant dickweed with affirmation issues, is all.
Oh, yes - people do remember.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On 1 Apr 2005 19:28:55 -0800, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >bigjim wrote:
> >> > Everybody on wreck under retirement age thinks I'm a mean old
back
> >> > woods horses ass ...
> >>
> >> Not me, for one. I think you are a phony ass, never was old
queen
> >
> >
> >Could be some validity to that thought Biggy, much like you &
> >Jerry girl I towas once a member of the USPA...Being exposed to such
a
> >shallow group of Americans.....A good many of whom act like skygods
> >and seem to think angrily out of their tight young chapped ass's
> >could havehad some effect on my thinking.
>
> I think you're "thinking" was suspect to begin with
Yes, I am not a lock step thinker....always had to go see for myself
> > - then there's the other side of the coin - it very well could be
>considered that those
> who you believed were acting like "skygods" and were "thinking
angrily
> out of their tight young chapped asses," were only appearing to be
> such in direct response to the various instances where you for
> example:
Pulled well below 2K (nevermind where you were actually
> licensed to pull at the time),
Thats true below 1,000 AGL coming out of a track as a matter of fact
but it was the better of two choices and it worked out...could have
went the other way just as well if a outright malfunction or other
abnormality like a 800 ft. snivel had developed but it didn't so your
arguement is moot Mr. Gear Fear
>eschewed exit seperation
thats not rue, we gave them a honest 5 count before climbing out
>thus finding
> yourself falling near, past, and lower than the formation out ahead
of
> you,
Untrue also, I had to track like a bitch to catch them
>tracking vertically thus putting yourself lower than others
Not true, they were under canopy by the time I caught them
> with negligible horizontal seperation in a vertically dynamic
> environment,
How close? Cain't really say, I was off to their right and a little
high
when I threw out---close enough for them to hear the canopy crack open.
~thats for sure~ but not close enough to make out facial features
clearly
although I could see heads snapping around cuz I was looking over my
left shoulder <evil grin>
breaking off high from the formation you were on
> (ostensibly because you were "bored")
true
and chasing down the formation
> ahead of you without them having prior knowledge that you were going
> to do this
hell if I had of warned them, they wudda got off the otter...I hate to
see anybody miss a jump cuz their chicken <;>
resulting in you opening near their already opened
> canopies,
off to the right and a little higher actually, close only counts in
horseshoes and hand grenades
purposefully trying to flip formations because you were
> again "bored,"
not to mention the reaction it caused was funny ;)
>purposefully spotting so that some on the load would
> have trouble making it back
that could be considered a teaching tool.
(CHECK THE SPOT BEFORE CLIMBING OUT DUMMYS) yahoooooo
>attempting to organize 20way formations
> stocked with a majority of very low-time skydivers,
What do you mean attempting? ROFLMAO
> cutting and
> running from the dz when the various due lumps to be delivered were
> inbound,
Hey, I liked to travel around and see what other skydivers within 3 or
400 miles were up to, kinda nice it coincided with a USPA lynch party
forming up at my home dz, wouldn't you say? 0;]
> and justifying it all in various degrees through
> rationalizing, shifting responsibility, blaming others, and even
> excusing yourself because you were "more extreme" and wanted to take
> things "to the edge."
Yeah, perhaps if I weren't so damn large...I'd have made a wonderfull
base jumper...The CoVan war or some type of harsh training I had gone
thru years before had done something to the fear producing part of my
brain...it was fried or something...never has worked right since 1969
or 70
Sure, they might have been "skygods" while they
> were caring enough to tear you a new asshole
Nope the true Skygods rarelly did any screaming or shouting, the hyper
young skygod wannabe's were the ones freaking (note) notice the
difference between the capital S and small s in the two different
skygod types mentioned above
> so you'd hopefully get a
> clue, straighten up, and fly right - not to mention hopefully
avoiding
> you taking someone else out - but nevertheless - "skygods" or not -
the ~crybaby ones~ were skygods for sure, at least by my standards
(again notice the small s)
> you were selfish, self-serving, inconsiderate, and just outright
> dangerous.
Sounds like a self examination tweety, I keep this therapy up and you
will either be over yer pin fear or have a nervous breakdown before the
seasons up heh
> Just one giant dickweed with affirmation issues, is all.
> Oh, yes - people do remember.
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
Yes? Well like I told that South Beach wennier "Biggyjim" I was USPA,
could you expect any less than standard type A behavior? bada bing
0~;-*
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
>Jerry K. wrote:
>> On 1 Apr 2005 19:28:55 -0800, "the unknown flailer"
>> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >bigjim wrote:
>> >> > Everybody on wreck under retirement age thinks I'm a mean old
>back
>> >> > woods horses ass ...
>> >>
>> >> Not me, for one. I think you are a phony ass, never was old
>queen
>> >
>> >
>> >Could be some validity to that thought Biggy, much like you &
>> >Jerry girl I towas once a member of the USPA...Being exposed to such
>a
>> >shallow group of Americans.....A good many of whom act like skygods
>> >and seem to think angrily out of their tight young chapped ass's
>> >could havehad some effect on my thinking.
>>
>> I think you're "thinking" was suspect to begin with
>
>Yes, I am not a lock step thinker....always had to go see for myself
Which does nothing to suggest that some convienently labelled entity
"could have ad some effect on (your) thinking."
>
>> > - then there's the other side of the coin - it very well could be
>>considered that those
>> who you believed were acting like "skygods" and were "thinking
>angrily
>> out of their tight young chapped asses," were only appearing to be
>> such in direct response to the various instances where you for
>> example:
>
>Pulled well below 2K (nevermind where you were actually
>> licensed to pull at the time),
>
>Thats true below 1,000 AGL coming out of a track as a matter of fact
>but it was the better of two choices and it worked out...could have
>went the other way just as well if a outright malfunction or other
>abnormality like a 800 ft. snivel had developed but it didn't so your
>arguement is moot Mr. Gear Fear
The point is not so much how it all worked out but the resultant
talking to being written off as because of "skygods" with "tight young
chapped ass's."
>
>>eschewed exit seperation
>
>thats not rue, we gave them a honest 5 count before climbing out
No, it is true - maybe you on occasion were responsible enough to keep
seperation on exit but there were occasions where you did not - and
caught grief for it from the aforementioned, "skygods" with "tight
young chapped ass's."
>
>>thus finding
>> yourself falling near, past, and lower than the formation out ahead
>of
>> you,
>
>Untrue also, I had to track like a bitch to catch them
No, it is true - just as you on occasion weren't keeping after exit
seperation, you on occasion fell past, and lower than the formation
out ahead of you - and caught grief for it from the aforementioned,
"skygods" with "tight young chapped ass's."
>
>>tracking vertically thus putting yourself lower than others
>
>Not true, they were under canopy by the time I caught them
No, it is true - just as you on occasion , when breaking off from the
formation at the bottom end of a dive, tracked vertically - and caught
grief for it from the aforementioned, "skygods" with "tight young
chapped ass's."
>
>
>> with negligible horizontal seperation in a vertically dynamic
>> environment,
>
>
>How close? Cain't really say, I was off to their right and a little
>high
>when I threw out---close enough for them to hear the canopy crack open.
>~thats for sure~ but not close enough to make out facial features
>clearly
>although I could see heads snapping around cuz I was looking over my
>left shoulder <evil grin>
As for that circumstance, a seperate incident - you had indeed
followed that formation after breaking off high but failed to inform
the jumpers on that formation ahead of you that you intended to catch
them and open in their vicinity.
>
>breaking off high from the formation you were on
>> (ostensibly because you were "bored")
>
>true
And the "skygods" with "tight young chapped ass's" earned the label
for trying to explain to you why you shouldn't do that.
>
>
>and chasing down the formation
>> ahead of you without them having prior knowledge that you were going
>> to do this
>
>hell if I had of warned them, they wudda got off the otter...I hate to
>see anybody miss a jump cuz their chicken <;>
Whether they jump or not is no concern of anyone except themselves -
whether you, for all practical purposes, attempt to enter their
airspace was evidently your concern and it was rightfully their
concern - as they later would have expressed to you - if you hadn't
cut n' run as soon as you got down. What was the deal? Couldn't
handle dealing with a(nother) bout of "skygods" with "tight young
chapped ass's?"
>
>resulting in you opening near their already opened
>> canopies,
>
>off to the right and a little higher actually, close only counts in
>horseshoes and hand grenades
If that argument were valid in the sense that it was not legitimate
for you to catch some flack from the "skygods" with "tight young
chapped ass's," then why'd you bugger off so fast after you landed?
>
>
>purposefully trying to flip formations because you were
>> again "bored,"
>
>not to mention the reaction it caused was funny ;)
>
No doubt except when maybe you have people who are trying to build a
formation and maybe turn some points. So - if because it was "funny,"
is the rationalization, how'd this excuse fly with the soon to follow
bit of grief from the "skygods" with "tight young chapped ass's?"
>
>>purposefully spotting so that some on the load would
>> have trouble making it back
>
>that could be considered a teaching tool.
>(CHECK THE SPOT BEFORE CLIMBING OUT DUMMYS)
Sure, but who are you to arbitrarily decide when to inflict whatever
you feel like teaching, whenever, and however you wish? Do you think
that bad spots never happen on their own so you have to make it happen
so you can blindly teach? So, when you caught more hell from the
"skygods" with "tight young chapped ass's," I guess you're
rationalizing that you were "teaching" made them leave you alone on
the issue, eh?
>
>>attempting to organize 20way formations
>> stocked with a majority of very low-time skydivers,
>
>What do you mean attempting?
Exactly that - attempting. Accomplishing would be something else but
I think at the time the "skygods" with "tight young chapped ass's" who
had to read you the riot act about such poorly thought out ideas
weren't doing so because of whether it was attempted or accomplished
but because of the poor decision making going on and dumbass
priorities you were displaying - and they told you to stop it.
>
>
>> cutting and
>> running from the dz when the various due lumps to be delivered were
>> inbound,
>
>Hey, I liked to travel around and see what other skydivers within 3 or
>400 miles were up to, kinda nice it coincided with a USPA lynch party
>forming up at my home dz, wouldn't you say?
Oh, I get it - you land, throw all your shit in the car and book to go
jump with other skydivers - like you had planned before the jump to do
this the moment you landed - nothing to do with avoiding the "skygods"
with "tight young chapped ass's" who were going to see about setting
you right. Nevermind that when this particular circumstance occurred,
you were in the low jump numbers and had at that point never
sport-jumped anywhere else but that dz. It ain't flying, Jinnie.
>
>> and justifying it all in various degrees through
>> rationalizing, shifting responsibility, blaming others, and even
>> excusing yourself because you were "more extreme" and wanted to take
>> things "to the edge."
>
>Yeah, perhaps if I weren't so damn large...I'd have made a wonderfull
>base jumper...The CoVan war or some type of harsh training I had gone
>thru years before had done something to the fear producing part of my
>brain...it was fried or something...never has worked right since 1969
>or 70
There was fear enough apparently when you went about avoiding that
"USPA lynch party forming up at (your) home dz," it seems but war or
not - still only a convienent excuse. It explains why perhaps you
were often finding yourself confronted by "skygods" with "tight young
chapped ass's" (if you hadn't skittered off already) but it doesn't in
the slightest excuse the actions which brought down the
confrontations.
>
>
>Sure, they might have been "skygods" while they
>> were caring enough to tear you a new asshole
>
>Nope the true Skygods rarelly did any screaming or shouting, the hyper
>young skygod wannabe's were the ones freaking (note) notice the
>difference between the capital S and small s in the two different
>skygod types mentioned above
Does having "tight young chapped ass's" fall into both categories?
>
>> so you'd hopefully get a
>> clue, straighten up, and fly right - not to mention hopefully
>avoiding
>> you taking someone else out - but nevertheless - "skygods" or not -
>
> the ~crybaby ones~ were skygods for sure, at least by my standards
> (again notice the small s)
What about the ones who in a well modulated voice essentially
expressed the very same sentiment - that you were fucking up? Were
their "tight young chapped ass's" up to standard?
>
>
>> you were selfish, self-serving, inconsiderate, and just outright
>> dangerous.
>
>Sounds like a self examination tweety, I keep this therapy up and you
>will either be over yer pin fear or have a nervous breakdown before the
>seasons up heh
Feel free if you wanna rationalize it that way but I have no
misconcepetions or even preconcpetions regarding any sort of bogus
"therapy." You whine about "skygods" with "tight young chapped ass's"
without perhaps volunteering some of the possible reasons regarding
what you might have been doing to earn "their" attention and the
obvious comment is to suggest some of the possible reasons some people
were, as you put it, being "crybabies." Nevermind that you going on
about "skygods" with "tight young chapped ass's" is, in of itself,
quite crybabyish as well.
>
>
>
>> Just one giant dickweed with affirmation issues, is all.
>> Oh, yes - people do remember.
>>
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk
>
>Yes? Well like I told that South Beach wennier "Biggyjim" I was USPA,
>could you expect any less than standard type A behavior?
I have no expectations regarding you, one way or the other, beyond
your internal drive towards pretense and self-affirmation and I
certainly have no expectation that anyone's actions, good or bad, can
be simply written off as "standard type A behavior." That's just a
copout utilized to denigrate or elevate, depending on the
circumstances and, of course, the rhetoric.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On 1 Apr 2005 21:38:57 -0800, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Jerry K. wrote:
> >> On 1 Apr 2005 19:28:55 -0800, "the unknown flailer"
> >> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >bigjim wrote:
> >> >> > Everybody on wreck under retirement age thinks I'm a mean old
> >back
> >> >> > woods horses ass ...
> >> >>
> >> >> Not me, for one. I think you are a phony ass, never was old
> >queen
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Could be some validity to that thought Biggy, much like you &
> >> >Jerry girl I towas once a member of the USPA...Being exposed to
such
> >a
> >> >shallow group of Americans.....A good many of whom act like
skygods
> >> >and seem to think angrily out of their tight young chapped ass's
> >> >could havehad some effect on my thinking.
> >>
> >> I think you're "thinking" was suspect to begin with
It suffers abnormalities from time to time I'll grant you that
> >
I am not a lock step thinker....always had to try shit out for myself.
Mussta done a bazzillion pushups for that in the service not to mention
months of what the Navy called extra duty; "a form of minor XO &
Captains Mast punishment" I believe the Army calls them Article 215's
>
> Which does nothing to suggest that some convienently labelled entity
> "could have ad some effect on (your) thinking."
What? you think the devil made me do it. Thats rater Flip isn't it?
~you're probably to young to get that one~
> > - then there's the other side of the coin - it very well could be
> >>considered that those
> >> who you believed were acting like "skygods" and were "thinking
> >angrily out of their tight young chapped asses,"
**start snipping here for brevity**
> The point is not so much how it all worked out but the resultant
> talking to being written off as because of "skygods" with "tight
young
> chapped ass's."
bingo
> "skygods" with "tight
> young chapped ass's."
>
I think you're beginning to get it now
> the aforementioned,
> "skygods" with "tight young chapped ass's."
yes, their the ones that caused me to do it
> No, it is true - just as you on occasion caught
> grief for it from the aforementioned, "skygods" with "tight young
> chapped ass's."
I'd say it was more like Nagging crybabys.....Could just give certain
ones a crooked grin in the loading area and their whole dive fell apart
> >although I could see heads snapping around cuz I was looking over my
> >left shoulder <evil grin>
>
> As for that circumstance, a seperate incident
No it was part of a larger plan, they seemed to love being miserable.
~I provided a service actually~
>
> >
> >breaking off high from the formation you were on
> >> (ostensibly because you were "bored")
> >
more often than not
>
> And the "skygods" with "tight young chapped ass's" earned the label
> for trying to explain to you why you shouldn't do that.
not so much that, it was the standing 50 ft away and screaming at the
top of their lungs that annoyed me
> >>chasing down the formation
> >> ahead of you without them having prior knowledge that you were
going
> >> to do this
> >
hell if I had of warned them, they wudda got off the otter...that wudda
been "no fun"
>
> Whether they jump or not is no concern of anyone except themselves -
Yes, it never was clear to me why they bothered to show up if they
weren't into extreme sport.
> whether you, for all practical purposes, attempt to enter their
> airspace
They needed to much airspace if you ask me
. What was the deal? Couldn't
> handle dealing with a(nother) bout of "skygods" with "tight young
> chapped ass's?"
Nah it was the same ones doing the complaining over and over again.
I got used to it and the majority of cooler heads around the DZ learned
to ignore it.
>
> >
> >resulting in you opening near their already opened
> >> canopies,
They were in my airspace is the real story but actually I was
comfortable with it because close only counts in horseshoes and hand
grenades
>
> for you to catch some flack from the "skygods" with "tight young
> chapped ass's," then why'd you bugger off so fast after you landed?
>
yeah it was always funny as hell, like a buncha little 5 year olds
running to momma to tell
> >purposefully trying to flip formations because you were
> >> again "bored,"
Flipping a formation or part of it is not as easy as you think....I
see it as a art form not to mention the reaction it caused is funny as
hell ;)
> >
>
> No doubt except when maybe you have people who are trying to build a
> formation and maybe turn some points. So - if because it was
"funny,"
> is the rationalization, how'd this excuse fly with the soon to follow
> bit of grief from the "skygods" with "tight young chapped ass's?"
Hey I done them a favor by giving them a excuse to do it again, what,
you don't like jumping?
>
> >
> >>purposefully spotting so that some on the load would
> >> have trouble making it back
> >
> >that could be considered a teaching tool.
> >(CHECK THE SPOT BEFORE CLIMBING OUT DUMMYS)
>
> Sure, but who are you to arbitrarily decide when to inflict whatever
> you feel like teaching, whenever, and however you wish? Do you think
> that bad spots never happen on their own so you have to make it
happen
> so you can blindly teach?
more like breaking them from bad habits I think
So, when you caught more hell from the "skygods" with "tight young
chapped ass's," I guess you're rationalizing that you were "teaching"
made them
"Crazy?" I think thats the word youre looking for kid
> >>attempting to organize 20way formations
> >> stocked with a majority of very low-time skydivers,
> >
> >What do you mean attempting?
>
> I think at the time the "skygods" with "tight young chapped ass's"
who
> had to read you the riot act about such poorly thought out ideas
it wasn't poorly thought out...they just couldn't seem to build a
consensus
against me....to get them to shout wolf so many times that people
ignored them was the plan and it worked...it was like they finally
ended up using dz politics against theirselves...oh sure those few just
hated my guts but its a small price to pay to get the results I wanted.
Reminds me of a phrase the military came up with in the late 60's to
explain certain sitrep lines to the public;
Dead VC became "neutralized tax collectors." I was neutralizing skygods
who were into dz politics without killing them physically ~capeach?~
> >> cutting and
> >> running from the dz when the various due lumps to be delivered
were
> >> inbound,
Its called "living to fight another day" in some circles besides I
liked to travel around and see what other skydivers within 3 or 400
miles were up to, kinda nice it coincided with a USPA lynch party
forming up at my home dz, wouldn't you say?
>
> Oh, I get it - you land, throw all your shit in the car and book to
go
> jump with other skydivers - like you had planned before the jump to
do
> this the moment you landed
sometimes, yes I went that far....you see as a 9027 I had been trained
to plan the job ahead of time, have my outs ready if need be....I used
to set in class and think "damn are they teaching us to rob banks or
what?" In hind sight I see it was just to think in certain ways in
order to handle the River Advisor/Combat jobs more effeciently. Thank
your Government Jerry
> >> and justifying it all in various degrees through
> >> rationalizing, shifting responsibility, blaming others, and even
> >> excusing yourself because you were "more extreme" and wanted to
take
> >> things "to the edge."
Yeah if thats what it takes, it pays to be a winner jerry...whatever it
takes heh
>
> There was fear enough apparently when you went about avoiding that
> "USPA lynch party forming up at (your) home dz," it seems but war or
> not -
Battlefield or DZ, no matter....Any war should be fought smart, here's
a rule of thumb kid ~Find your enemys weakness and exploit it to
capture victory~
> >
> >
> >Sure, they might have been "skygods" while they
> >> were caring enough to tear you a new asshole
> >
> >Nope the true Skygods rarelly did any screaming or shouting, the
hyper
> >young skygod wannabe's were the ones freaking (note) notice the
> >difference between the capital S and small s in the two different
> >skygod types mentioned above
>
> Does having "tight young chapped ass's" fall into both categories?
No, just the cataglory you and biggy jim fall in. 0~;)
> Were
> their "tight young chapped ass's" up to standard?
>
No, but write that phrase on the blackboard 1000 times while I'm
thinking about this
> >
> >> you were selfish, self-serving, inconsiderate, and just outright
> >> dangerous.
> >> ...bsrp
> >> ...jlk
Damn kid are you related to any of my ex girlfriends by any chance?
ROFL
0~;)p
Danielle
all in utero. Mymom skydived when she was pregnant... so technically
all i need is recurrency training, even though I can teach the whole
course.
the unknown flailer
Ya been hanging around with skydivers to long sweety, if its been for
15 years thats longer than I did for sure....Doubt they would let
either one of us teach a FJC....I'm not current and you've drank to
much pop and inhaled a lotta finger nail polish or something....Oh well
no need to teach one unless you need it for the JM/I Quall
card....besides dunno about you but I can tighten plenty of butt cheeks
& blow enough skygod minds right here on wreck just by rattling the
fancy lads expectations (wicked grin)
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
No, basically because the debbil probably has bigger fish to fry than
goading one of his minor imps to perform stupid actions - I think the
responsibility for your various foulups, biffs, and blunders rest
squarely with yourself. As for the Flip, I thought the whole "Devil
made me do it!" routine was kinda lame and overdone but that's
probably only because I was a little kid when Wilson was on - though,
he did have a lot of funny material.
>
>
>> > - then there's the other side of the coin - it very well could be
>> >>considered that those
>> >> who you believed were acting like "skygods" and were "thinking
>> >angrily out of their tight young chapped asses,"
>
> **start snipping here for brevity**
>
>
>> The point is not so much how it all worked out but the resultant
>> talking to being written off as because of "skygods" with "tight
>young
>> chapped ass's."
>
> bingo
Yep, which is a failing in that you would rather judge the messengers
than the message being delivered.
>
>
>> "skygods" with "tight
>> young chapped ass's."
>>
> I think you're beginning to get it now
>
Oh, I've had you pegged and locked down for a good, long time now.
Once you go through your circular iterrations a few times, where it's
going to go next and in what form it's going to take has been and
remains entirely predictable.
>
>> the aforementioned,
>> "skygods" with "tight young chapped ass's."
>
>
> yes, their the ones that caused me to do it
Right - easier to blame your actions on the actions of someone or some
other entity than yourself. Got news for you - I think you're
affording such a rhetorical boogieman too much power and control. No
one "caused" you to do anything. You made all of your decisions
yourself and if you had half a clue you'd take responsibility. But no
- "their the ones that caused me to do it"
>
>
>> No, it is true - just as you on occasion caught
>> grief for it from the aforementioned, "skygods" with "tight young
>> chapped ass's."
>
>
>I'd say it was more like Nagging crybabys.....Could just give certain
>ones a crooked grin in the loading area and their whole dive fell apart
And if you weren't so wrapped up in the messenger, you mighta
considered the message.
>
>
>> >although I could see heads snapping around cuz I was looking over my
>> >left shoulder <evil grin>
>>
>> As for that circumstance, a seperate incident
>
>No it was part of a larger plan, they seemed to love being miserable.
> ~I provided a service actually~
Oh, I see - you purposefully on occasion: Broke high, pulled low,
lurked other formations without clueing them in first, stocked 20ways
with mostly very low time skydivers, opened in other people's
airspace, rationalized it all away unless you just blamed someone or
something else, and even split from the dz when the shit was hitting
the fan because there was some "larger plan" at work - you did all
that because there were people who "loved being miserable" and you
were doing them all a service by making them miserable. Nope - don't
buy it for a second. First off - no one was miserable but more than
likely on several occasions - quite pissed off. I think all your
screwups and resultant ass-chewings were entirely due to you being for
the most part out of control, not heads up, and unaware, as well as no
small amount seeking attention.
>>
>> >
>> >breaking off high from the formation you were on
>> >> (ostensibly because you were "bored")
>> >
> more often than not
>>
Which isn't cool when the people you are jumping with are trying to do
a skydive. You all dirt-dive it where the formation might go a few
points and then move on without you as you were planning to break off
high? Or maybe there were dirtdives that went as far as the exit with
everyone on the dive and with the conisideration that you would likely
be going low, they planned the dive with this in mind?
>> And the "skygods" with "tight young chapped ass's" earned the label
>> for trying to explain to you why you shouldn't do that.
>
>
>not so much that, it was the standing 50 ft away and screaming at the
>top of their lungs that annoyed me
Oh - so now it's the method of delivery which invalidates the message?
Nope - you just didn't like being told you were fucking up -
especially when you were fucking up.
>
>> >>chasing down the formation
>> >> ahead of you without them having prior knowledge that you were
>going
>> >> to do this
>> >
>hell if I had of warned them, they wudda got off the otter...that wudda
>been "no fun"
>>
>> Whether they jump or not is no concern of anyone except themselves -
>
>Yes, it never was clear to me why they bothered to show up if they
>weren't into extreme sport.
Hell, not sure why you bothered to show up if you were so bored since
you "more often than not" broke off from the very formation which you
had planned to do with other skydivers. Is that one of those women's
perogative things? You know - changed your mind somewhere along the
way?
>
>> whether you, for all practical purposes, attempt to enter their
>> airspace
>
>They needed to much airspace if you ask me
Not your call to make. They did have, afterall, right of way.
>
>. What was the deal? Couldn't
>> handle dealing with a(nother) bout of "skygods" with "tight young
>> chapped ass's?"
>
>Nah it was the same ones doing the complaining over and over again.
Well, you were screwing up regularely - with one comes the other - at
least they cared enough to clue you in (or tried to).
>I got used to it and the majority of cooler heads around the DZ learned
>to ignore it.
These were probably the people who weren't sharing airplanes or any
part of the sky with you. Cooler heads, right - guessing these were
just people who early on could tell that no correction was gonna make
it past your skull, decided not to waste their time, and - of course -
keep a watchfull eye out for if you ever might come near.
>>
>> >
>> >resulting in you opening near their already opened
>> >> canopies,
>
>They were in my airspace is the real story
Right - they were opening, they were lower than you, they were not
your formation, they were never told you would be coming closer, and
they had right of way. Your airspace, eh?
>but actually I was
>comfortable with it because close only counts in horseshoes and hand
>grenades
Right, but the end does not justify the means and while horseshoes and
hand genades is a convienent platitude to fall back upon, you don't
play horseshoes using other people as the post without telling them
first, nor do you lob grenades at the enemy while fellow solidiers are
presently engaging them hand to hand. You didn't have many jumps and
you fucked up - no big deal - except when the message that you had
fucked up came down, you wrote it off because of the supposed nature
of the people who had an issue, rather than the nature of the issue
itself.
>>
>
>> for you to catch some flack from the "skygods" with "tight young
>> chapped ass's," then why'd you bugger off so fast after you landed?
>>
> yeah it was always funny as hell, like a buncha little 5 year olds
>running to momma to tell
The way I heard it, hell - the way you've described it, it was more
like an irate parent pulling out the strap - that is until you
skittered off rather than taking your lumps and possibly learning not
to include others without their permission if you're gonna lurk
formations not your own and open in their airspace.
>
>> >purposefully trying to flip formations because you were
>> >> again "bored,"
>
>Flipping a formation or part of it is not as easy as you think....I
>see it as a art form not to mention the reaction it caused is funny as
>hell ;)
Oh, they can be fun at the time but for the people who forked over the
time, effort, and even money to go up and dive the plan they had
planned, it's kinda screwing them over and pretty selfish - especially
taking into account the "I was bored" excuse.
>> >
>>
>> No doubt except when maybe you have people who are trying to build a
>> formation and maybe turn some points. So - if because it was
>"funny,"
>> is the rationalization, how'd this excuse fly with the soon to follow
>> bit of grief from the "skygods" with "tight young chapped ass's?"
>
> Hey I done them a favor by giving them a excuse to do it again, what,
>you don't like jumping?
Just because a dive does go as planned does not in any way lessen or
change any excuse to go do it again - the reasons for making another
jump are far more varied than simply, it didn't work before.
>>
>> >
>> >>purposefully spotting so that some on the load would
>> >> have trouble making it back
>> >
>> >that could be considered a teaching tool.
>> >(CHECK THE SPOT BEFORE CLIMBING OUT DUMMYS)
>>
>> Sure, but who are you to arbitrarily decide when to inflict whatever
>> you feel like teaching, whenever, and however you wish? Do you think
>> that bad spots never happen on their own so you have to make it
>happen
>> so you can blindly teach?
>
>more like breaking them from bad habits I think
Perhaps but I think the reasons behind you fucking the spot have more
to do with you likely just spotting poorly and if you actually
premeditated a bad spot, then it was so you could enjoy other people
having to struggle to get back or not make it back. If you want to
break them from the bad habit of not spotting, then either tell 'em to
spot, let them spot for themselves, or even give 'em some shit when
they do spot themselves not so well - it's not for you or anyone to
purposefully hose a load because you arbitrarily decided to break
someone from "bad habits."
>
>
>
> So, when you caught more hell from the "skygods" with "tight young
>chapped ass's," I guess you're rationalizing that you were "teaching"
>made them
>
>
>"Crazy?" I think thats the word youre looking for kid
Naw, more likely just a simple pissed off at some dingleberry trying
to prove he can spot - and failing.
>
>
>
>> >>attempting to organize 20way formations
>> >> stocked with a majority of very low-time skydivers,
>> >
>> >What do you mean attempting?
>>
>> I think at the time the "skygods" with "tight young chapped ass's"
>who
>> had to read you the riot act about such poorly thought out ideas
>
>
>it wasn't poorly thought out...they just couldn't seem to build a
>consensus
>against me....
Right - you wanted to be on a 20way because by then you had certainly
burned enough bridges to where you weren't getting asked to be on 'em
anymore - so, what you do? Gather a bunch of other jumpers, most of
them with very low experience, and attempt to organize your own.
Nothing wrong with organizing a 20way - everything wrong with stocking
the majority of it with people who had never been in the sky with
10-20 other people before at the same time. Consensus? Hell - you
still got told to cut that shit out.
>to get them to shout wolf so many times that people
>ignored them was the plan and it worked...it was like they finally
>ended up using dz politics against theirselves...
Right - the dive goes off, it becomes a hornet's nest, people get
down, some bumped, burised, and even bloodied - nothing critical, mind
you - but certainly something which isn't going to escape notice and
what's the result? "DZ politics" used "against theirselves" shuts you
down. No - simply a matter of keeping after bad and hoping to stop it
from going worse. You got shut down.
>oh sure those few just
>hated my guts but its a small price to pay to get the results I wanted.
Try not to confuse hate with mere disrepsect. If there's one label
which sticks it is "fucking idiot." Your fucking idiot approach to
organizing resulted in a hornet's nest of a skydive (they happen) and
some dinged up skydivers (which also happens). The idiot part was
trying to organize a 20way with the majority of skydivers on the dive
with very little jump experience. Sure - can't argue the results - if
you were looking to get shutdown, well, you scored.
>Reminds me of a phrase the military came up with in the late 60's to
>explain certain sitrep lines to the public;
>
>Dead VC became "neutralized tax collectors." I was neutralizing skygods
>who were into dz politics without killing them physically ~capeach?~
Nevermind that these "skygods" (and their "politics") were hardly to
be considered "neutralized" as it was explained to you that there
needed to be a higher ratio of more experienced jumpers to low
experienced jumpers if you were going to go about attempting to
organize any more 20ways.
>
>> >> cutting and
>> >> running from the dz when the various due lumps to be delivered
>were
>> >> inbound,
>
>
>Its called "living to fight another day" in some circles
Call it what you will - you still buggered off.
>besides I
>liked to travel around and see what other skydivers within 3 or 400
>miles were up to,
>kinda nice it coincided with a USPA lynch party
>forming up at my home dz, wouldn't you say?
Nevermind that at the time you were with low jump numbers and had
never sport jumped anywhere else but at that very same dz where you
found it prudent to cut and run and "live another day."
>>
>> Oh, I get it - you land, throw all your shit in the car and book to
>go
>> jump with other skydivers - like you had planned before the jump to
>do
>> this the moment you landed
>
>sometimes, yes I went that far...
But at the time when you had very few jumps and chased that 4way after
breaking off high from the one you were on and ended up opening close
enough to bring about (rightly or wrongly) this "USPA lynch party,"
you speak of - that was the plan? Nope, it ain't flying - you beat
that hasty retreat because it was clearly expedient.
>you see as a 9027 I had been trained
>to plan the job ahead of time, have my outs ready if need be....I used
>to set in class and think "damn are they teaching us to rob banks or
>what?" In hind sight I see it was just to think in certain ways in
>order to handle the River Advisor/Combat jobs more effeciently. Thank
>your Government Jerry
Nope, not accepting the "it's the government's fault" excuse either.
You fucked up because you at the time didn't know any better and that
happens - but then, you knew it was bad enough to split before your
due lumps could be delivered so there is that. Still, the fact that
you blame it all on anyone (and everyone) other than your own
ignorance and lack of judgement is very telling but not particularely
respresentitive of taking responsibility for one's own actions. You
wanna fob your own personal shortcomings off on the military, well, go
right ahead but keep in mind just as you were once in the military and
are certianly a major league dinglberry, it's clear to me that such
dingleberries are rare and certainly not representitive of the
military (or their training) overall.
>
>
>> >> and justifying it all in various degrees through
>> >> rationalizing, shifting responsibility, blaming others, and even
>> >> excusing yourself because you were "more extreme" and wanted to
>take
>> >> things "to the edge."
>
>
>Yeah if thats what it takes, it pays to be a winner jerry...whatever it
>takes heh
I wouldn't call concluding the best option available as consisting of
having to pack up my shit and leave the dz because of stirring up some
shitstorm as being "a winner," and if you feel that having gone
through that makes you one and that it even "pays," well - have a
party - you're still a dingleberry.
>
>>
>> There was fear enough apparently when you went about avoiding that
>> "USPA lynch party forming up at (your) home dz," it seems but war or
>> not -
>
>Battlefield or DZ, no matter....Any war should be fought smart, here's
>a rule of thumb kid ~Find your enemys weakness and exploit it to
>capture victory~
Ya know - it very well could be possible that there might have been
some people on the dz who concluded that if they came after you
looking pissed off and like they were potentially going to tell you
that you were fucking up, that this might well exploit your weakness
of being poorly equipped to hear from others that you were fucking up,
that you might get it in your head to "live to fight another day," and
retreat the hell out of there. Pretty smart of the girls to invade
"your airspace," (especially from below) and in so doing - effectively
engineering you cutting and running to the parking lot and rolling on
out of there, eh?
>> >
>> >
>> >Sure, they might have been "skygods" while they
>> >> were caring enough to tear you a new asshole
>> >
>> >Nope the true Skygods rarelly did any screaming or shouting, the
>hyper
>> >young skygod wannabe's were the ones freaking (note) notice the
>> >difference between the capital S and small s in the two different
>> >skygod types mentioned above
>>
>> Does having "tight young chapped ass's" fall into both categories?
>
> No, just the cataglory you and biggy jim fall in.
Ah, current jumper with no bitter tarmac aftertaste going on. Hell,
it's been clear for a long time that just the idea of people still
jumping while you cannot annoys the fuck out of you. Don't blame us
you couldn't keep with it - that was your own lookout.
>
>
>> Were
>> their "tight young chapped ass's" up to standard?
>>
> No, but write that phrase on the blackboard 1000 times while I'm
>thinking about this
You start getting after those pushups for pretense and posing and I'll
think about it.
>> >
>> >> you were selfish, self-serving, inconsiderate, and just outright
>> >> dangerous.
>
>> >> ...bsrp
>> >> ...jlk
>
>Damn kid are you related to any of my ex girlfriends by any chance?
>ROFL
Probably not but I mighta had something to do with your momma, I'm
thinking.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On 2 Apr 2005 06:04:37 -0800, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >> The point is not so much how it all worked out
thats always the point if your into pushing the edge
> >> talking to being written off as because of "skygods" with "tight
> >young
> >> chapped ass's."
> >
> > bingo
>
> Yep, which is a failing in that you would rather judge the messengers
> than the message being delivered.
> >> the aforementioned,
> >> "skygods" with "tight young chapped ass's."
> >
> >
Presentation, its all about presentation. Seemed to me their message
was
actually a personal issue and to tell you the truth I never in my life
cared what a crybaby though about anything
> >
> >> No, it is true - just as you on occasion caught
> >> grief for it from the aforementioned, "skygods" with "tight young
> >> chapped ass's."
I saw it as projecting fear, perhaps it would be better if these sissy
types realized they were in the wrong place and go on home, set the bad
mitten net up and get on with a sport their really cut out for
> And if you weren't so wrapped up in the messenger, you mighta
> considered the message.
>
I find it hard to understand anyone who's blubbering besides
they seemed to love being miserable. ~I provided a service actually~
>
> Oh, I see - you purposefully :
Every thing I do has purpose, out here we call it culling the herd
Broke high, pulled low,
shit happens
> lurked other formations without clueing them in first,
I had 20/18 vision so if I could see them a long way off, thats lurking
huh? I hadda chase their ass down....by the tim I arrived they were
under canopy...thats not lurking, it chasing
>
> stocked 20ways
> with mostly very low time skydivers,
Hey, they hadda learn sometime and nobody else wanted to deal with them
because they were no longer cash cows. I saw a need and filled it
because any one jump was about fun to me, not vanity
> opened in other people's
> airspace
There's that skygod shit again, I was in my airspace...you sissy bitchs
don't get a as far as you can see and to the upper atmosphere airspace
clause
rationalized it all
I think thats the key, your fear makes you irrational
> >> >breaking off high from the formation you were on
> >> >> (ostensibly because you were "bored")
> >> >
> > more often than not
> Which isn't cool when the people you are jumping with are trying to
do
> a skydive. You all dirt-dive it where the formation might go a few
> points
Its clear youre either a dreamer or flat didn't know the other 3 people
I was with at the time...We could jump together all weekend and not
have a point to show for it....think I had 38 jumps when the incident
your so upset about took place and they were all 51 jump wonders. We
were still at the stage where your in it for the adrenalin----Not
points. I had no lic being between student status and my A. they were
A's & B's I'm thinking. Mad Dog who was S&TA at the time explained
thats why they got the ass chewing and I didn't later on....Boy oh boy
she ripped their ass's up one side and down the other all she said to
me is "don't pull that stunt again Snuffy "you've been warned!"
"Oh no Mam.....not gonna do it again.
and being a man of my word
"I didn't"
> >> And the "skygods" with "tight young chapped ass's" earned the
label
> >> for trying to explain to you why you shouldn't do that.
No, they went crying to the S&TA....I think most of the under 55 crowd
were afraid of me to tell you the truth...Christi never liked me thats
for sure ~ no biggy, she wasn't my type. I prefer widder women closer
to my own age who own Cadillac's and are willing to let me drive. There
is some question in my mind that she and 1 or 2 others in that little
skygod group might have had unresolved big Daddy issues though. 0~;)
> Hell, not sure why you bothered to show up if you were so bored since
> you "more often than not"
Are you kidding? I showed up because its where they kept the airplane,
that their were so many hysterical city people in the same place was
just icing on the cake. ;->
JPO
bigjim wrote:
> Not me, for one. I think you are a phony ass, never was old queen
~dans votre f'ee du cheeeeek mon fifi tan
;-* JPO - goot Canadian frin with snuffy
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
>Jerry K. wrote:
>> On 2 Apr 2005 06:04:37 -0800, "the unknown flailer"
>> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> The point is not so much how it all worked out
>
>
>thats always the point if your into pushing the edge
Nothing wrong with "pushing" some "edge." -Everything wrong with
including others along without their prior knowledge and without their
permission.
>
>
>
>> >> talking to being written off as because of "skygods" with "tight
>> >young
>> >> chapped ass's."
>> >
>> > bingo
>>
>> Yep, which is a failing in that you would rather judge the messengers
>> than the message being delivered.
>> >> the aforementioned,
>> >> "skygods" with "tight young chapped ass's."
>> >
>> >
>
>Presentation, its all about presentation.
Okay - if that's what you believe but I think most people, at least
the disciplined, if not realistic ones, would put more import in the
message itself, rather than its presentation but okay - whatever
floats your boat - just kind of a hairstylist/interior decorator
sensibility you got going on.
>Seemed to me their message
>was
>actually a personal issue
Well, you flail yourself into opening near other canopies which you
had no business putting yourself near in the first place, the people
under those canopies might very well take it personally. Ya think?
>and to tell you the truth I never in my life
>cared what a crybaby though about anything
Which is an interesting take in that what with your propensity to cry
about "skygods," or whatever rhetorical boogieman is serving the
personal affirmation pursuit at the time, you do a hell of a lot of
crybabying yourself. As for the people who took the time to try and
set you right when you were fucking up, again it's all about the
messenger or even the message's presentation which makes or breaks its
legitimacy, but as for the message? You were too full of yourself to
even consider what was being said.
>
>> >
>> >> No, it is true - just as you on occasion caught
>> >> grief for it from the aforementioned, "skygods" with "tight young
>> >> chapped ass's."
>
>I saw it as projecting fear, perhaps it would be better if these sissy
>types realized they were in the wrong place and go on home, set the bad
>mitten net up and get on with a sport their really cut out for
Whereas your common habit of breaking off high or trying to flip a
formation (ostensibly because you were bored but I think it was more
an issue of a decided lack of control) or even just pulling lower than
your licensing and jm's suggested appears to be a reflection of your
remarkable desire for attention and self-affirmation - or unawareness,
for that matter. Perhaps it would have been better if a severely
self-involved type such as yourself had found a better outlet, less
highspeed, and one with less potential for involving others
unwillingly along in your self-absorbed desires.
>
>> And if you weren't so wrapped up in the messenger, you mighta
>> considered the message.
>>
>
>I find it hard to understand anyone who's blubbering besides
>they seemed to love being miserable. ~I provided a service actually~
>>
>> Oh, I see - you purposefully :
>
>Every thing I do has purpose, out here we call it culling the herd
Ah, so that puntuating conclusion to a remarkably mediocre and
relatively short time in skydiving - where face met runway,
purposefully executed and you were quite simply, just even then
performing one final cull to the herd?
>
>Broke high, pulled low,
>
> shit happens
Ummm...what happened to "Every thing I do has purpose, out here we
call it culling the herd" ?
>
>
>> lurked other formations without clueing them in first,
>
>I had 20/18 vision so if I could see them a long way off, thats lurking
>huh?
Yeah, I suppose if you want to spin it that way but the truth is you
were not a long way off and ultimately were close enough for others to
take issue with it.
>I hadda chase their ass down....by the tim I arrived they were
>under canopy...thats not lurking, it chasing
Hell, you can call it stalking or skulking for all the difference it
makes - choice of verbs ain't winning the argument here, either -
still you arrived, nonetheless and later on the down the line you're
whining here now about skygods with chapped asses when the reality is,
the whole "skygod" thing is just more rhetorical bullshit utilizing
the crutch of some easily invoked boogieman and the "chapped asses"
which could also be very well described as simply other skydivers you
had no business putting into the position they found themselves in
were were quite legitimate in expressing their concerns.
>
>>
>
>> stocked 20ways
>> with mostly very low time skydivers,
>
>Hey, they hadda learn sometime and nobody else wanted to deal with them
>because they were no longer cash cows.
But this does not change in the slightest the poor decision making
process going on in stocking a 20way with a majority of such people
you describe - nor does it change the talking to that came to you
after which you characterize as "skygods" with "chapped asses."
>I saw a need and filled it
Right - your own need to establish some sort of pretense that you were
capable of being on a 20way and to a certain extent capable of
organizing a 20way. You weren't getting invited on them anymore and
there lay your need.
>because any one jump was about fun to me, not vanity
Which is a legitimate platitude certainly but there's having fun and
then there's having fun at the expense of others which resulted in you
getting told to cut that kind of stupid shit out and ultimately, in
you here and now whining about "skygods" with "chapped asses."
>
>> opened in other people's
>> airspace
>
>There's that skygod shit again, I was in my airspace...
Perhaps but it wasn't your airspace to begin with - it became yours at
that moment only because you had taken upon yourself to usurp the
airspace which at the time was inhabited by others.
>you sissy bitchs
>don't get a as far as you can see and to the upper atmosphere airspace
>clause
No, it comes down to low man and right of way as well as revolving
around the concept of if you purposefully put yourself into the
situation of opening near other canopies without them having any
foreknowledge of what you are intending, say - other jumpers belonging
to a formation out ahead of you which you were in the process of
chasing down, for instance - then you are fucking up bigtime and are
certainly fair game for any "skygod" who might get a "chapped ass"
about it.
>
>rationalized it all
>
>I think thats the key, your fear makes you irrational
Not at all - but it could very well be said that your irrational fear
of being "bored" on a skydive could certainly be respresented here as
well as your apparently irrational fear of "skygods" with "chapped
asses" - especially so as you are out of the sport, have been so for
years, and yet you still to this day feel the need to express your
conerns about such a rhetorically convienent monkey on your back.
>
>
>
>
>> >> >breaking off high from the formation you were on
>> >> >> (ostensibly because you were "bored")
>> >> >
>> > more often than not
>
>
>> Which isn't cool when the people you are jumping with are trying to
>do
>> a skydive. You all dirt-dive it where the formation might go a few
>> points
>
>Its clear youre either a dreamer or flat didn't know the other 3 people
>I was with at the time...We could jump together all weekend and not
>have a point to show for it....
Especially if you were going off chasing/lurking/and/or following the
formation out ahead of you instead of just being content for that
skydive to make an effort to skydive the skydive you had dirt-dived.
>think I had 38 jumps when the incident
>your so upset about took place and they were all 51 jump wonders.
Upset? Not at all - just a convienent example of what's gone down in
the past when you have in the present invoked your big fear of
"skygods" with "chapped asses." As for the 38 jumps you possessed at
the time - taking this into account with your previous statement
regarding why you split from the dz and *one* of the answers to this
question being you had planned on it and wanted to go out to different
dz's and see other skydivers - 38 jumps - you hadn't sport jumped
anywhere else. Yep - you buggered off. Skarpered. From "chapped
ass" "skygods," no less. Clear as day.
>We
>were still at the stage where your in it for the adrenalin----Not
>points. I had no lic being between student status and my A.
Right - not even licensed and here you were just a short time ago
saying that you really left the dz after the dive because you wanted
to visit some other dropzones. Just decided to go off and nothing to
do with "chapping asses." "skygods," and "UPSA lynch parties?"
>they were
>A's & B's I'm thinking. Mad Dog who was S&TA at the time explained
>thats why they got the ass chewing and I didn't later on....
Hell - you didn't get your ass chewed 'cause you had already gotten
your ass out of there, pronto.
>Boy oh boy
>she ripped their ass's up one side and down the other all she said to
>me is "don't pull that stunt again Snuffy "you've been warned!"
Right - typical "skygod" with a "chapped ass," eh?
>
>"Oh no Mam.....not gonna do it again.
> and being a man of my word
> "I didn't"
What, you didn't tell her everything you do has a purpose? That shit
happens? That she was just being a "skygod" with a "chapped ass," and
expressing her fears? That she would be better off playing badmitton?
Heh - you got in over your head, caught some flak, and the best you
can do is complain about the "skygods." Sounds to me like you got off
light with just a warning.
>
>> >> And the "skygods" with "tight young chapped ass's" earned the
>label
>> >> for trying to explain to you why you shouldn't do that.
>
>
>No, they went crying to the S&TA....
Maybe if what you did was so rightous and important to you, you should
have done it in such a way that no one would know about it and would
be unable to go "crying to the S&TA." You just didn't know any
better. But, keep in mind that this S&TA was the same S&TA who later
layed down the law and issued you that warning and the same law and
warning which you, at least in lip-service at the time, had to knuckle
under to. You just can't stand that you got caught. Nothing about
how you fucked up and that maybe these "skygods" with "chapped asses"
might just be also considered as perhaps fellow skydivers with
legitimate concerns. Ulitmately, you had to acknowledge you fucked up
but your ego couldn't accept this by itself unless it had a convienent
and comforting "bad-guy" to lay it all upon - "skygods" with "chapped
asses." Thank God for that comforting rhetoric.
>I think most of the under 55 crowd
>were afraid of me to tell you the truth...
Try not to confuse fear with well placed caution, healthy concern, and
justifiable apprehension. It's not like your capacity to do stupid
shit around others wasn't an unknown quantity.
>Christi never liked me thats
>for sure ~ no biggy, she wasn't my type. I prefer widder women closer
>to my own age who own Cadillac's and are willing to let me drive. There
>is some question in my mind that she and 1 or 2 others in that little
>skygod group might have had unresolved big Daddy issues though.
Keep in mind that it not without good and many reasons, one of them
perhaps being little to no sufferance of dangerous idiots, which just
might have contributed to her having been able to jump since the late
60's as well as having acquired over 7k in jumps in that time. I'd
say she's forgotten more jumps than you ever made.
>
>> Hell, not sure why you bothered to show up if you were so bored since
>> you "more often than not"
>
>Are you kidding? I showed up because its where they kept the airplane,
>that their were so many hysterical city people in the same place was
>just icing on the cake.
It's pretty clear given your history that if anyone was hysterical, it
may well have been due to what you managed to bring to the sport (as
well as your own ego-driven take on what was going on while everything
revolved around you) as opposed to any such emotion present before you
arrived or even after you left. I mean - true story - that time I was
at Beaumont and you were there? You were shrieking about something
over by the kingair trying to dirtdive with a half a dozen others who
were clearly rolling their eyes and I didn't know you from Adam. I
asked someone who the hell you were and two more eyes rolled, "Oh,
that's Snuffie - he's an idiot."
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On 31 Mar 2005 04:31:35 -0800, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > YA YA I nailed the California kid
> > ~don't mess with Texas~
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
The day I do even one pushup for any long haired draft dodging hippie
will be the day freedom is pushing up daisy's--------LOG IT-------
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
>Jerry K. wrote:
>> On 31 Mar 2005 04:31:35 -0800, "the unknown flailer"
>> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > YA YA I nailed the California kid
>> > ~don't mess with Texas~
>> 100 pushups for posing. Get after it.
>>
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk
>
>The day I do even one pushup for any long haired draft dodging hippie
>will be the day freedom is pushing up daisy's--------LOG IT-------
Heh - can't dodge the draft when it wasn't around to be dodged and ya
know - might be some short-haired "hippies" around, ya think? As for
your inability to do even one pushup - pusswad. And freedom? It
lives on with or without you doing your pushups for your posing.
Square away and get it right -----------> do your pushups.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On 3 Apr 2005 05:18:48 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Jerry K. wrote:
> >> On 2 Apr 2005 06:04:37 -0800, "the unknown flailer"
> >> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >> The point is not so much how it all worked out
> >
> >
> >thats always the point if your into pushing the edge
>
> Nothing wrong with "pushing" some "edge." -Everything wrong with
> including others along without their prior knowledge and without
their
> permission.
Hey you know what? I looked in the Bill of Rights and couldn't find
notifying candy ass's written into it anywhere I also looked in my
diddy bag and couldn't find any sympathy for them anywhere so their
just gonna have to SUCK IT UP ;)
> >>
> >> Yep, which is a failing in that you would rather judge the
messengers
> >> than the message being delivered.
> >> >> the aforementioned,
> >> >> "skygods" with "tight young chapped ass's."
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >Presentation, its all about presentation.
>
> Okay - if that's what you believe but I think most people, at least
> the disciplined, if not realistic ones, would put more import in the
> message itself, rather than its presentation but okay >
And you would be wrong....go to people in the know in the buisness
community and they will tell you if you want to get your message
across, the presentation needs to be correct or you could ask any
salesman and probably get the same answer.
> Well, you flail yourself into opening near other canopies which you
> had no business putting yourself near in the first place, the people
> under those canopies might very well take it personally. Ya think?
If they have never had the right training or been in harms way, they
may well panic and loose control of their emotions and blubber....yes.
;)
>
to tell you the truth I never in my life
cared what a crybaby though about anything
You were too full of yourself to
even consider what was being said.
yeah I don't even bother to listen to crybabys, normally I just write
them off as pussys and tune them out
> >> >. you on occasion caught
> >> >> grief for it from the aforementioned, "skygods" with "tight
young
> >> >> chapped ass's."
> >
> >I saw it as projecting fear, perhaps it would be better if these
sissy
> >types realized they were in the wrong place and go on home, set the
bad
> >mitten net up and get on with a sport their really cut out for
> >
> >> And if you weren't so wrapped up in the messenger, you mighta
> >> considered the message.
> >>
they had no message, they just wanted to discuss their feelings
Which would have been clear from the beginning if they had thought
about it "That I didn't give a damn about some candy ass's feelings heh
> >> stocked 20ways
> >> with mostly very low time skydivers,
> >
> >Hey, they hadda learn sometime and nobody else wanted to deal with
them
> >because they were no longer cash cows.
>
> But this does not change in the slightest the poor decision making
> process going on in stocking a 20way with a majority of such people
> you describe - nor does it change the talking to that came to you
> after which you characterize as "skygods" with "chapped asses."
No talking to went on the way you think it did, because you weren't
even a skydiver at the time. Mike Smith calmly asked me to include one
D for every 4 novices in my zoo's then showed me a film of the breakoff
of a 17 way I wasn't evenin on, the Novices put together their own zoo
when I failed to show up one weekend The video was taken from the
ground ((((ugly)))) After seeing it I agreed immediately
>
> >I saw a need and filled it
>
> Right - your own need to establish some sort of pretense that you
were
> capable of being on a 20way and to a certain extent capable of
> organizing a 20way. You weren't getting invited on them anymore and
> there lay your need.
Another plus was I backed up Jacks deguello loads....The whining almost
made me cum...so I tells this deguello kiss ass...you dickweeds aren't
any more important than any other skydiver with a jumpticket that
manifested ahead of you....Jeeze you wudda thought I spit on Jesus or
something the way the gods freaked out ROFL I lived for shit like that
;->
> ...bsrp
> ...jerry puckerbutt
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On 3 Apr 2005 20:09:32 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Jerry K. wrote:
> >> On 31 Mar 2005 04:31:35 -0800, "the unknown flailer"
> >> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > YA YA I nailed the California kid
> >> > ~don't mess with Texas~
> >> 100 pushups for posing. Get after it.
> >>
> >> ...bsrp
> >> ...jlk
> >
> >The day I do even one pushup for any long haired draft dodging
hippie
> >will be the day freedom is pushing up daisy's--------LOG IT-------
>
> Heh - can't dodge the draft when it wasn't around to be dodged
> ...jlk
Freedom is not free kid, you cudda volunteered to serve your country in
some capacityy... I'd respect any kind of National Service, America
corps, peace corps You choose to live off the fat of the land while
other young people sacrifice....You're a damn wimp kid snd btw thanks
for keeping the boning Mike header up on wreck...He was pissed at me
before I started it...with your help his ole white hair hair artta be
standing on end by now hahahaha damn I live for this shit ;)p
Mike Spurgeon
> Freedom is not free kid, you cudda volunteered to serve your country in
> some capacityy... I'd respect any kind of National Service, America
> corps, peace corps You choose to live off the fat of the land while
> other young people sacrifice....You're a damn wimp kid snd btw thanks
> for keeping the boning Mike header up on wreck...He was pissed at me
> before I started it...with your help his ole white hair hair artta be
> standing on end by now hahahaha damn I live for this shit ;)p
Still beating this one, huh?
I've got better things to do, like making a whole bunch of jumps the
past week.
And meeting Winsor. He finally made it to Lodi, at least the first time
since I've been here...
the unknown flailer
Mike Spurgeon wrote:
> the unknown flailer wrote:
....You're a damn wimp kid snd btw thanks
> > for keeping the boning Mike header up on wreck...He was pissed at
me
> > before I started it...with your help his ole white hair hair artta
be
> > standing on end by now hahahaha damn I live for this shit ;)p
>
> Still beating this one, huh?
Damn you mean your wading through all this shit were slinging? I
figgered I cud slip a little jab in on you and get away with it cuz you
would be busy deleting all the boning Mike threads ;) Shit I think I'm
getting a woody! ;]
>
> I've got better things to do, like making a whole bunch of jumps the
> past week.
>
> And meeting Winsor. He finally made it to Lodi, at least the first
time
> since I've been here...
Sounds Great, he seemed pretty cool for a pocket protector type back
when he posted a lot years ago....I reckon he's kinda getting kinda
long in the tooth also huh? Now about the continuation of this Boning
Mike thread, it's Jerrys fault....He won't let it die <bfg>
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On 3 Apr 2005 05:18:48 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >>
> >> >
> >> >> The point is not so much how it all worked out
> >
> >
like shooting video...you could probably give a monkey with his finger
up his ass a Video Helment, throw him out a Otter and I'm quite sure
the video would work out HAHAHAHAHAHA Now when it would get interesting
is the moment he takes his finger out of his ass and trys to fly a slot
& take a grip in the formation WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA woo woo picture
that you young peckerwood ;-*
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
>Jerry K. wrote:
>> On 3 Apr 2005 05:18:48 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
>> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Jerry K. wrote:
>> >> On 2 Apr 2005 06:04:37 -0800, "the unknown flailer"
>> >> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >> The point is not so much how it all worked out
>> >
>> >
>> >thats always the point if your into pushing the edge
>>
>> Nothing wrong with "pushing" some "edge." -Everything wrong with
>> including others along without their prior knowledge and without
>their
>> permission.
>
>Hey you know what? I looked in the Bill of Rights and couldn't find
>notifying candy ass's written into it anywhere
Heh - you try that angle with the S&TA?
>I also looked in my
>diddy bag and couldn't find any sympathy for them anywhere so their
>just gonna have to SUCK IT UP
Right - and ya know what? There's nothing in there either about
leaving dingleberries to their own purposes and not telling them if
they're fucking up - even if the people doing the telling belong to
some subjectively disdainfull collective which one might consider as
such for rhetoricaly comforting purposes. So, if you wanna work the
legal angle - what're the odds you think that there might be something
on the books? I mean, I' m no lawyer but hell, this shit is free and
available on the net - let's take a look:
Texas Penal Code -
Sec. 22.05. DEADLY CONDUCT. (a) A person commits an offense if he
recklessly engages in conduct that places another in imminent danger
of serious bodily injury.
Still, the legal aspects are all beside the point since the point here
is, as you moan and groan about "skygods" busting your chops, they
were still skydivers and you've yet to provide an explanation
regarding how when they expressed their concerns, that their concerns
were not legitimate.
>
>> >>
>> >> Yep, which is a failing in that you would rather judge the
>messengers
>> >> than the message being delivered.
>> >> >> the aforementioned,
>> >> >> "skygods" with "tight young chapped ass's."
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> >Presentation, its all about presentation.
>>
>> Okay - if that's what you believe but I think most people, at least
>> the disciplined, if not realistic ones, would put more import in the
>> message itself, rather than its presentation but okay >
>
>
>And you would be wrong....go to people in the know in the buisness
>community and they will tell you if you want to get your message
>across, the presentation needs to be correct or you could ask any
>salesman and probably get the same answer.
Yeah - except the "skygods' telling you that you were fucking up
weren't interested in "selling" you anything - only delivering to you
that which you had already earned, bought, and paid for.
>
>> Well, you flail yourself into opening near other canopies which you
>> had no business putting yourself near in the first place, the people
>> under those canopies might very well take it personally. Ya think?
>
>If they have never had the right training or been in harms way, they
>may well panic and loose control of their emotions and blubber....yes.
Which is amusing in that every one of the people on that formation out
ahead of you had gone through S/L.
>>
>to tell you the truth I never in my life
>cared what a crybaby though about anything
>
>You were too full of yourself to
>even consider what was being said.
>
>yeah I don't even bother to listen to crybabys, normally I just write
>them off as pussys and tune them out
And back we are to what is a very telling flaw, certainly indicative
of where you are today in realtion to participating in skydiving - you
could give a rat's ass about the message because you can't see past
the messenger. Fat lot of good such habits do for ya, eh?
>
>
>
>> >> >. you on occasion caught
>> >> >> grief for it from the aforementioned, "skygods" with "tight
>young
>> >> >> chapped ass's."
>> >
>> >I saw it as projecting fear, perhaps it would be better if these
>sissy
>> >types realized they were in the wrong place and go on home, set the
>bad
>> >mitten net up and get on with a sport their really cut out for
>> >
>> >> And if you weren't so wrapped up in the messenger, you mighta
>> >> considered the message.
>> >>
> they had no message, they just wanted to discuss their feelings
> Which would have been clear from the beginning if they had thought
>about it "That I didn't give a damn about some candy ass's feelings
Well then - I suppose all you were thinking about if you considered
that while coming out of freefall speed in relation to the nearest
canopy to you which would place you on one side, into, or the other
side of this skydiver (as well as above, at level, or below) with a
window of about a second, either way - the worst case scenario would
be merely bruising someone's feelings and of no account, eh? Track a
little further or less, wave-off a little more birskly or
deliberately, canopy opens a little quicker or slower - But then - how
reckless it actually was is also beside the point since thems that
told you to cut that shit out, also didn't apparently give a damn
about some dingleberry's pursuit of his own conception of what it is
to participate in a highspeed sport with other people.
>
>
>> >> stocked 20ways
>> >> with mostly very low time skydivers,
>> >
>> >Hey, they hadda learn sometime and nobody else wanted to deal with
>them
>> >because they were no longer cash cows.
>>
>> But this does not change in the slightest the poor decision making
>> process going on in stocking a 20way with a majority of such people
>> you describe - nor does it change the talking to that came to you
>> after which you characterize as "skygods" with "chapped asses."
>
>No talking to went on the way you think it did, because you weren't
>even a skydiver at the time. Mike Smith calmly asked me to include one
>D for every 4 novices in my zoo's then showed me a film of the breakoff
>of a 17 way I wasn't evenin on, the Novices put together their own zoo
>when I failed to show up one weekend The video was taken from the
>ground ((((ugly)))) After seeing it I agreed immediately
Yet, you still have often related on how what you were doing was
actually rightous and how you being shutdown from what you were doing
was all about "skygods" and "dz politics." And going back to your
little chase the formation stunt - "chapped ass skygods" and "USPA
lynch parties" with the result of (once you crept your ass back on the
dz an uncertain amount of time later) you getting warned and told not
to do it again and you affirmed you wouldn't do it again. Like I've
said, when you say there were "skygods with chapped asses," it's
pretty clear they were at very least, fellow skydivers with valid
enough concerns.
>>
>> >I saw a need and filled it
>>
>> Right - your own need to establish some sort of pretense that you
>were
>> capable of being on a 20way and to a certain extent capable of
>> organizing a 20way. You weren't getting invited on them anymore and
>> there lay your need.
>
>Another plus was I backed up Jacks deguello loads....The whining almost
>made me cum...so I tells this deguello kiss ass...you dickweeds aren't
>any more important than any other skydiver with a jumpticket that
>manifested ahead of you....
Ah, well - I suppose he was going around saying he was "more important
than any other skydiver with a jumpticket that manifested ahead of
him," eh? Or was this just merely some sort of skydive envy going on?
What he do to you beyond go up and make a skydive with some other
people? And define "deguello kiss ass." Do you mean anyone and
everyone who's ever had occasion to jump on one of their formations or
was there some other qualfication for the label?
>Jeeze you wudda thought I spit on Jesus or
>something the way the gods freaked out ROFL I lived for shit like that
Well, yeah - someone's minding their own business at the dz, doing the
skydiving thing with friends, dirt-diving, jumping, ect. - and someone
clearly with a chip on his shoulder comes up out of the blue and
starts sputtering some whiny tripe about, how he's not more important
than any other skydiver - as if he's going around pretending he was -
I think you just had some serious envy issues going on. So you never
got invited on any of their loads --------------> suck it up - it's
not like you weren't able to go out and skydive.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
>Jerry K. wrote:
>> On 3 Apr 2005 20:09:32 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
>> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Jerry K. wrote:
>> >> On 31 Mar 2005 04:31:35 -0800, "the unknown flailer"
>> >> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > YA YA I nailed the California kid
>> >> > ~don't mess with Texas~
>> >> 100 pushups for posing. Get after it.
>> >>
>> >> ...bsrp
>> >> ...jlk
>> >
>> >The day I do even one pushup for any long haired draft dodging
>hippie
>> >will be the day freedom is pushing up daisy's--------LOG IT-------
>>
>> Heh - can't dodge the draft when it wasn't around to be dodged
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk
>
>Freedom is not free kid, you cudda volunteered to serve your country in
>some capacityy...
Who says I never have? I mean - you have a very predictable habit of
falling back on this angle when you're getting your ass whipped during
the regular desconstructions of your lameass rhetoric yet, when all is
said and done, this angle of aspersion (certainly ain't an argument)
is only a guess on your part with an answer already predetermined
solely because you think it might seperate you and somehow make you
different or even unique and it makes you feel better about yourself.
Why not try considering, if you must express yourself here, limiting
yourself to areas where you actually have a clue and understand that
all the rhetorical claptrap you employ is just plain ineffective and
weak?
>I'd respect any kind of National Service, America
>corps, peace corps
Yeah, well - unlike you, it's clear that I have no interest (or time)
to go about measuring some sort of subjective self-worth based purely
upon how much respect it might garner from someone else on an
electronic newsgroup, least of all you.
>You choose to live off the fat of the land while
>other young people sacrifice....
Oh, you mean now? Actually, you have absolutely no idea how I live
except to say that a small portion of my time as I live is spent
deconstructing your rhetorical bullshit.
>You're a damn wimp kid
As long as you find comforting such an assumption based upon how
regularely your assertions regarding skydivers and skydiving are
revealed to be self-serving, and without a doubt remarkably
inaccurate, have a party.
> snd btw thanks
>for keeping the boning Mike header up on wreck...He was pissed at me
>before I started it...
Based upon what little I know of Mike reading what's been here, I get
the impression that he has better fish to fry than to be "pissed"
about posts on the net. But, if it makes you feel better to imagine
someone getting pissed off about something so inconsequential and it
props up your sense of self-worth to imagine that you are provoking
some sort of emotional response in someone else, fine by me, but I
think it's probably just another example of you speaking through your
hat, going on about what you only can guess, or hope, and very much
the same path which has so often led you to stepping in it, as it has
so often led you before.
>with your help his ole white hair hair artta be
>standing on end by now hahahaha damn I live for this shit
Sure beats skydiving, eh?
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
Hell, you brought it to life - I have no dount you'll let it die
either when you start some other one or when you are no longer able
capable of continuing it. This is perforamnce art at its most absurd
- what you choose to call the thread where it is contained is just
basically bunting, as far as I'm concerned.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
>Jerry K. wrote:
>> On 3 Apr 2005 05:18:48 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
>> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >> The point is not so much how it all worked out
>> >
>> >
>> >thats always the point if your into pushing the edge, just
>like shooting video...you could probably give a monkey with his finger
>up his ass a Video Helment, throw him out a Otter and I'm quite sure
>the video would work out
Well, there would be video of something as long as the camera worked
but the monkey would need a few jumps to work out all the other misc.
details that can and do crop up when attempting to keep something
framed and static, as well as returning himself and the video intact
to a venue where the video can be viewed.
>HAHAHAHAHAHA Now when it would get interesting
>is the moment he takes his finger out of his ass and trys to fly a slot
>& take a grip in the formation
Actually, it doesn't so much as get interesting but remains
interesting in that flying slots, like flying video, like virtually
any sort of skydiving discipline is not without its own challenges and
rewards. Though, I have no personal experience with flying with a
finger up the ass so I can't speak to that and I'll leave that to your
experience but if you're suggesting that vidgeeks can't or are unable
to fly a slot and take grips well, it's clear you got a finger so far
up your own ass, it's pulled the rest of the arm in and is sharing
considerable space with your skull. I mean - I've posted links before
showing myself to be in formations, gripped, ect. - larger than any
you ever flailed past, let alone gripped on so if the angle here is to
basically go, "Nyeah-nyeah - you can't take grips cause you do video!"
or some such - whoopty shit - I know I can and can back it up. But,
don't let this bit of really simple deconstruction slow you down -
let's see if we can work this along the standard lines of you reaching
back and hurling another ball of brown as hard as you can, only to
have it land just short of the end of your shoes. Ya know - I could
post the links again.
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA woo woo picture
>that you young peckerwood
Oh, I got lots of pictures - unfortunately (for you) they're somewhat
contradictory in reality as juxtaposed with your finger up your ass
fantasy. I mean - I've never seen a picture of you on anything larger
than a solo but if you wanna work the pissing contest angle some -
shit, call my bluff and show your cards.
How's it go? Something like, "Gee, you musta not been on too many
bigways, kid." Something like that.
You gonna talk or play cards? I'm guessing the former.
...bsrp
...jlk
Mike Spurgeon
> Damn you mean your wading through all this shit were slinging?
The point was I wasn't.
I don't do the Snuffy and Jerry Show...
Jerry K.
wrote:
Smart move and I appreciate the confirmation that this shit's working
- the less who do the show the better.
Thanks!
-Jerry
the unknown flailer
Don't wanna share yer old hero with anybody else huh kid?
T y p i c a l
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On 3 Apr 2005 21:29:24 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Jerry K. wrote:
> >> On 3 Apr 2005 20:09:32 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> >> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > YA YA I nailed the California kid
> >> >> > ~don't mess with Texas~
> >> >> 100 pushups for posing. Get after it.
> >> >>
> >> >> ...bsrp
> >> >> ...jlk
> >> >
> >> >The day I do even one pushup for any long haired draft dodging
> >hippie
> >> >will be the day freedom is pushing up daisy's--------LOG
IT-------
> >>
> >> Heh - can't dodge the draft when it wasn't around to be dodged
> >> ...bsrp
> >> ...jlk
> >
> >Freedom is not free kid, you cudda volunteered to serve your country
in
> >some capacityy...
>
> Who says I never have?
Paying taxs don't count, to many citizens have learned to cheat on
that, specially USPA types - for instance do you pay tax's on your jump
ticket discounts and/or any other dz perks or earnings? hummmmm?
> >I'd respect any kind of National Service, America
> >corps, peace corps
>
> Yeah, well - unlike you, it's clear that I have no interest (or time)
> to go about measuring some sort of subjective self-worth based purely
> upon how much respect it might garner from someone else on an
> electronic newsgroup, least of all you.
Oh yeah it garners a lot of respect, my sea storys make people like
Jimbo & Chuck who have none, foam at the mouth.
>
> >You choose to live off the fat of the land while
> >other young people sacrifice....
>
> Oh, you mean now? Actually, you have absolutely no idea how I live
> except to say that a small portion of my time as I live is spent
> deconstructing your rhetorical bullshit.
Seems to me you must not work to have the time you do to devote to your
old flail hero
>
> >You're a damn wimp kid
>
> As long as you find comforting such an assumption based upon how
> regularely your assertions regarding
Well I just thought some lucid person should point out to you that
those 2000 quick jumps you think make you special don't. You should be
thankful
not I repeat not be thinking your special snd btw thanks for keeping
the boning Mike header up on wreck...
> Based upon what little I know of Mike reading what's been here, I get
> the impression that he has better fish to fry than to be "pissed"
> about posts on the net.
You don't get to read my incoming e-mails do you? He's serious about
saving bandwith, the old fart must recycle also you think? Them
California types get all weird about shit they believe in you know.
Join Greanpeace, hug tree's etc...I'll give him this ~ he pratices what
he preaches
> >with your help his ole white hair hair artta be
> >standing on end by now hahahaha damn I live for this shit
>
> Sure beats skydiving, eh?
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
The art of the insult was considered part of skydiving at one time as
was honesty, then the mainstream overan the DZ's and it got to where
they couldn't hack it......perfering to pratice political correctness
rather than say what they were really thinking tsk tsk tsk 0~;)P
Mike Spurgeon
Actually, I find his posts more interesting than yours...
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
Not that it's anyone's business beyond the irs and myself, absolutely,
but what - now you wanna work the who pays taxes angle?
>
>
>> >I'd respect any kind of National Service, America
>> >corps, peace corps
>>
>> Yeah, well - unlike you, it's clear that I have no interest (or time)
>> to go about measuring some sort of subjective self-worth based purely
>> upon how much respect it might garner from someone else on an
>> electronic newsgroup, least of all you.
>
>Oh yeah it garners a lot of respect, my sea storys make people like
>Jimbo & Chuck who have none, foam at the mouth.
Hardly, though they might take a pot-shot at you every now and then -
just to watch you do the monkey dance but foam at the mouth - reality
- they're reading an electronic newsgroup, moving digits to keys but
I'm sure just the idea of you being able to provoke such a response
goes a long way towards placating your self-affirmation issues.
>>
>> >You choose to live off the fat of the land while
>> >other young people sacrifice....
>>
>> Oh, you mean now? Actually, you have absolutely no idea how I live
>> except to say that a small portion of my time as I live is spent
>> deconstructing your rhetorical bullshit.
>
>Seems to me you must not work to have the time you do to devote to your
>old flail hero
Naw, takes very little time - quick reader and typer - besides, most
of your angles are normally re-treads of earlier ones and as
predictable as it all is, like I've said before, there's an old trs-80
on autopilot that doesn't even bust a sweat working the responses.
But - if you wanna work the work/not work angle, have a party.
>>
>> >You're a damn wimp kid
>>
>> As long as you find comforting such an assumption based upon how
>> regularely your assertions regarding
>
>Well I just thought some lucid person should point out to you that
>those 2000 quick jumps you think make you special don't.
Who ever said, least of all myself, that the jumps I was lucky enough
to make afford to myself any sort of uniqueness or specialness? This
is kinda dejavu, though - once upon a time the chip on your shoulder
got heavy enough to where you felt you just had to start whining to
some other skydiver that he and the people he was jumping with weren't
special - clearly just because they were doing formations without your
participation and here, now - you're suggesting I'm asserting I'm
special when the only thing you have to go on is just the mere fact
that I regularely box your ears when you get shit wrong. Nevermind
the jumps - that's just more of a frame of reference regarding airtime
and never was substitute for winning an argument. btw - over 3k but
who's counting - that ain't nothing compared to a lot of skydivers.
>You should be
>thankful
>not I repeat not be thinking your special snd btw thanks for keeping
>the boning Mike header up on wreck...
I'm thankfull for every day and every breath but as for being special?
Naw - I'm just another skydiver, hardly unique in skydiving. As for
the thread, I'm not sure what you get out of keeping it alive - must
be one of those internet ettiquette things loosly related to emoticons
and top-postings and I never bothered with all that silly crap.
>
>
>
>> Based upon what little I know of Mike reading what's been here, I get
>> the impression that he has better fish to fry than to be "pissed"
>> about posts on the net.
>
>You don't get to read my incoming e-mails do you? He's serious about
>saving bandwith, the old fart must recycle also you think? Them
>California types get all weird about shit they believe in you know.
>Join Greanpeace, hug tree's etc...I'll give him this ~ he pratices what
>he preaches
Near as I can tell, the best way to save bandwidth is to not post
anything, but keeping in mind that maybe it's level of bandwidth which
might interest whoever, I would welcome an administrator but much
prefer the idea that anyone can administrate for themselves.
Killfiles work.
>
>
>> >with your help his ole white hair hair artta be
>> >standing on end by now hahahaha damn I live for this shit
>>
>> Sure beats skydiving, eh?
>>
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk
>
>The art of the insult was considered part of skydiving at one time as
>was honesty,
I'd say it's as much a part of the culture back then as it is now.
>then the mainstream overan the DZ's and it got to where
>they couldn't hack it......perfering to pratice political correctness
>rather than say what they were really thinking
Nevermind that when certain people took it upon themselves to tell you
what they were thinking (this was back when you were jumping, btw but
it still apparently holds true now), their concerns were brushed off
and they were summarily relegated to being "skygods" with "chapped
asses," and as for the whole "political correctness" thing, what with
the messages being expressed to you at the time (and now), how's it
go? It's "all about presentation?" Presentation. How the message is
wrapped. How politically correct is that?
Shit, dude - you should realy keep track of what you write - I mean,
it seems like every other step you're making is stepping in it. Is
the idea here to make this shit so easy that hopefully I'll get bored
and leave off? Diabolical.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
OOP's yer crawfishing already.....THATS A DEAD GIVE A WAY. First thing
any sumbitch starts talking about is his rights which you didn't
sacrifice for btw hahahaha I smell smoking fuze(pass it on)
> >> >I'd respect any kind of National Service, America
> >> >corps, peace corps
> >>
> >> Yeah, well - unlike you, it's clear that I have no interest (or
time)
> >> to go about measuring some sort of subjective self-worth based
purely
> >> upon how much respect it might garner from someone else on an
> >> electronic newsgroup, least of all you.
> >
> >Oh yeah it garners a lot of respect, my sea storys make people like
> >Jimbo & Chuck who have none, foam at the mouth.
>
> Hardly, though they might take a pot-shot at you every now and then -
> just to watch you do the monkey dance but foam at the mouth -
Nope I profiled them as soon as they started squeeling just like I
would any other VC, habit I suppose. Apparently I'm a better private
dick than the one Chuck claims he hired <smerk>
> >> >You choose to live off the fat of the land while
> >> >other young people sacrifice....
> >>
> >> Oh, you mean now?
>From the day you became a szlacker "probably early childhood".
> >And I just thought some lucid person should point out to you that
> >those 2000 quick jumps you think make you special don't.
>
> Who ever said, least of all myself, that the jumps I was lucky enough
> to make afford to myself any sort of uniqueness or specialness?
Not the IRS certainly, they didn't know and haven't found out yet
you've been jumping on their nickle. tsk tsk tsk
> >
> >
> >> Based upon what little I know of Mike reading what's been here, I
get
> >> the impression that he has better fish to fry than to be "pissed"
> >> about posts on the net.
Mikes a Skydiver, so in all likely-hood he's as compusive as you young
USPA twits....I bet he reads it all just to see what some asshole might
be saying about him or hiz home DZ
> >
> >You don't get to read my incoming e-mails do you? He's serious
about
> >saving bandwith, the old fart must recycle also you think? Them
> >California types get all weird about shit they believe in you know.
> >Join Greanpeace, hug tree's etc...I'll give him this ~ he pratices
what
> >he preaches
>
> Near as I can tell, the best way to save bandwidth is to not post
> anything, but keeping in mind that maybe it's level of bandwidth
which
> might interest whoever, I would welcome an administrator but much
> prefer the idea that anyone can administrate for themselves.
> Killfiles work.
>
Counterpoint and what Mikes been saying all the time, just don't reply
to my barbs....And what, you don't know how to make a kill file? I
never use them myself...kinda like this google I kin put a yellow star
by the threads I'm interested in working and ignore the rest. On AOL I
hadda keep all the shit in my head just like in a running river battle
<grin> to sweet
plus with your help his ole white hair hair artta be standing on end by
now hahahaha damn I was born for this shit
> >>
> >> Sure beats skydiving, eh?
> >>
> >> ...bsrp
> >> ...jlk
> >
> >The art of the insult was considered part of skydiving at one time
as
> >was honesty,
>
> I'd say it's as much a part of the culture back then as it is now.
Huh, maybe theirs more people out there that can hand it out than take
it nowdays if wreck is any benchmark....Thats why I loved ugly old
Pecker, he said what he was thinking and that was that...I listened to
old Pecker he was another individualist...the hard head hung on to his
round reserve long after everybody else in the sport had gone
square/square and looked down on his old gear. The day of the 800 ft
incident when I was trying to bluff the S&TA into believing it was 1800
ft. because he had been in the back of the hanger and only heard the
CRACK BOOM sound of my canopy deploying low. Pecker as always was
outside standing out by his old van in that 80's earth tone jumpsuit
with patchs on the knee's and ass watching the action in the sky...Any
way Rabbit was behind the mockup trying to get me to beat it and lay
low rather than hassle the authoritys who I had on the ropes by
then...shit I artta sell used cars and mules, I'm that persuasive.
Anyway as I walked by Pecker ~ he said:
"You cain't bullsdhit a bullshitter Snuffy, that was under a grand...I
was watching!" So I quit arguing with the screaming skygods lined up in
front of the hanger and beat feet. He snitched me off but was still a
great guy, shudda been S&TA I wudda listened to him maybe or maybe
not..... <snicker>
> >then the mainstream overan the DZ's and it got to where
> >they couldn't hack it......perfering to pratice political
correctness
> >rather than say what they were really thinking
>
> Nevermind that
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
Yeah the stock market boom of the late 80's and a couple of skydiving
movies caused it, I'm thinking. ;)P
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote: that header
...bsrp
...jlk
HA Fuging HA HA, run with it kid!
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
Who said anything about rights? Hell, you were taking fire on your
whining about "skygods" without mentioning what you were doing to
possibly bring about their unwanted attention and what did you do?
Invoke the Bill of Rights? So, first thing anyone does is "start
talking about his rights?" Well, this is clearly incorrect as
refernced to myself but it was perhaps the first thing *you* did. As
for "sacrificing," wherein lies the level of sacrifice? You got
something specific in mind? I mean - there are levels to consider -
especially when you consider that some may have sacrificed more than
others. If you're trying to boil this down to some sort of sacrifice
pissing contest, well - it won't be the first time, but it also won't
change in the slightest just how stupid and lame is suggesting
draft-dodging as a means of supporting the supposition that because
someone calls you on being a whiny bitch for invoking the "skygod"
boogieman that this calling is in any way not also accurate.
>
>
>> >> >I'd respect any kind of National Service, America
>> >> >corps, peace corps
>> >>
>> >> Yeah, well - unlike you, it's clear that I have no interest (or
>time)
>> >> to go about measuring some sort of subjective self-worth based
>purely
>> >> upon how much respect it might garner from someone else on an
>> >> electronic newsgroup, least of all you.
>> >
>> >Oh yeah it garners a lot of respect, my sea storys make people like
>> >Jimbo & Chuck who have none, foam at the mouth.
>>
>> Hardly, though they might take a pot-shot at you every now and then -
>> just to watch you do the monkey dance but foam at the mouth -
>
> Nope I profiled them as soon as they started squeeling just like I
>would any other VC, habit I suppose. Apparently I'm a better private
>dick than the one Chuck claims he hired
Actually, it's a public newgroup - and in that respect, you're not so
much a private dick but a public dickweed.
>
>> >> >You choose to live off the fat of the land while
>> >> >other young people sacrifice....
>> >>
>> >> Oh, you mean now?
>
>>From the day you became a szlacker "probably early childhood".
Probably? You're still guessing, of course and you're making guesses
so to arrive at answers which are comforting for you. No big deal -
just pretty transparent and weak, is all. Well, I tried to enlist as
soon as I cleared nursery school but they wouldn't take four year
olds, no matter how good they were at wiffle-ball. The hard-asses
were demanding at least a Kindergarten diploma before they would let
me join.
>
>> >And I just thought some lucid person should point out to you that
>> >those 2000 quick jumps you think make you special don't.
>>
>> Who ever said, least of all myself, that the jumps I was lucky enough
>> to make afford to myself any sort of uniqueness or specialness?
>
>Not the IRS certainly, they didn't know and haven't found out yet
>you've been jumping on their nickle. tsk tsk tsk
No, this is comforting supposition on your part but you actually have
no idea and can only make comforting guesses which bullwark the
rhetoric and self-affirmation. As for the IRS, they get their pound
of flesh, never fear.
>> >
>> >
>> >> Based upon what little I know of Mike reading what's been here, I
>get
>> >> the impression that he has better fish to fry than to be "pissed"
>> >> about posts on the net.
>
>Mikes a Skydiver, so in all likely-hood he's as compusive as you young
>USPA twits....I bet he reads it all just to see what some asshole might
>be saying about him or hiz home DZ
His reasons are his own - why do you even worry about it? I mean -
you could save yourself from a lot of these stinging bitch-slaps if
you just opted for the killfile but as compulsive as you are, you just
couldn't countenance the idea of not knowing what someone might be
saying about you. Been over to the RV newsgroup, lately?
>> >
>> >You don't get to read my incoming e-mails do you? He's serious
>about
>> >saving bandwith, the old fart must recycle also you think? Them
>> >California types get all weird about shit they believe in you know.
>> >Join Greanpeace, hug tree's etc...I'll give him this ~ he pratices
>what
>> >he preaches
>>
>> Near as I can tell, the best way to save bandwidth is to not post
>> anything, but keeping in mind that maybe it's level of bandwidth
>which
>> might interest whoever, I would welcome an administrator but much
>> prefer the idea that anyone can administrate for themselves.
>> Killfiles work.
>>
> Counterpoint and what Mikes been saying all the time, just don't reply
>to my barbs....
No, just a simple reply would be weak and way too simple for my
tastes. Nothing short of as complete of a deconstruction as possible,
with perhaps a bitch-slap of a taste of your own medicine for good
measure, if possible, prety much does the trick.
>And what, you don't know how to make a kill file?
Of course I do but this ain't about removing your presence in just a
simple, from my perspective, subjective sense.
>I
>never use them myself...kinda like this google I kin put a yellow star
>by the threads I'm interested in working and ignore the rest. On AOL I
>hadda keep all the shit in my head just like in a running river battle
><grin> to sweet
>plus with your help his ole white hair hair artta be standing on end by
>now hahahaha damn I was born for this shit
How's it go He who lives by the shit will die by the shit? Fine,
live as you will but whining about it will just buy you more of this
shit you were so evidently born for.
>> >>
>> >> Sure beats skydiving, eh?
>> >>
>> >> ...bsrp
>> >> ...jlk
>> >
>> >The art of the insult was considered part of skydiving at one time
>as
>> >was honesty,
>>
>> I'd say it's as much a part of the culture back then as it is now.
>
>Huh, maybe theirs more people out there that can hand it out than take
>it nowdays if wreck is any benchmark....
Another mistake on your part - trying to use an electronic newsgroup
as a means of measurement or assessment of anything outside of the
electronic newsgroup.
>Thats why I loved ugly old
>Pecker, he said what he was thinking and that was that...I listened to
>old Pecker he was another individualist...the hard head hung on to his
>round reserve long after everybody else in the sport had gone
>square/square and looked down on his old gear. The day of the 800 ft
>incident when I was trying to bluff the S&TA into believing it was 1800
>ft. because he had been in the back of the hanger and only heard the
>CRACK BOOM sound of my canopy deploying low. Pecker as always was
>outside standing out by his old van in that 80's earth tone jumpsuit
>with patchs on the knee's and ass watching the action in the sky...Any
>way Rabbit was behind the mockup trying to get me to beat it and lay
>low rather than hassle the authoritys who I had on the ropes by
>then...shit I artta sell used cars and mules, I'm that persuasive.
>Anyway as I walked by Pecker ~ he said:
>
>"You cain't bullsdhit a bullshitter Snuffy, that was under a grand...I
>was watching!" So I quit arguing with the screaming skygods lined up in
>front of the hanger and beat feet. He snitched me off but was still a
>great guy, shudda been S&TA I wudda listened to him maybe or maybe
>not..... <snicker>
He still skydives too.
>
>
>
>> >then the mainstream overan the DZ's and it got to where
>> >they couldn't hack it......perfering to pratice political
>correctness
>> >rather than say what they were really thinking
>>
>> Nevermind that
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk
>
>Yeah the stock market boom of the late 80's and a couple of skydiving
>movies caused it, I'm thinking.
Late 80's? When you start? Nice cutnpaste btw but keep in mind that
movies about it were more of a relfection of an already growing
pasttime. It was something already going on had the greatest effect
on growth.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
Ummm - you took a header into tarmac?
You call your shitter a "header?"
Your brown eyes are gastrointestinal related?
Whaty're you looking for?
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Glad you understand you have few rights as fr as the IRS is concerned
they can place liens on everything you got plus charge interest till
you pay up or prove you don't owe...The only arm of the Gov't operating
under rules based on Napoleonic laws apparently...The FBI & everybody
else has to operate under US Federal law which is based on English
common law....
So if you didn't report those kickbacks and tips on your incometax
return
and some auditor as tuff minded as me latchs on to you, you're fried
~sweet~ Why? Cuz every crooked sumbitch in the U.S. starts screaming
about their rights as soon as their caught. I kinda admire shit based
on Napoleonic laws, it hues close to my beloved 1880's Texas law, you
know
"lets hang the sumbitch and then decide if he was guilty or innocent."
hahaha, well they may take all your shit kid but take heart---their
gonna have to convince a Federal Judge to lock your cheating ass up
<Snarf>
My studied opinion?
If you refuse to serve your country, ya artta pay extra tax's so the
fine youngsters who do both regular & reserve will get a pay raise, the
best facilitys, body armor and weapons avaliable....Afraid I lack
sympathy again
kid....I turned my damn diddy bag inside out and didn't find a shred of
it
draft-dodging as a means of supporting the supposition that because
> someone calls you on being a whiny bitch for invoking the "skygod"
> boogieman that this calling is in any way not also accurate.
>
Yeah, to bads they done away with the draft, you could dodge it like
your dodging tax's <eg>
> >
> >> >> >I'd respect any kind of National Service, America
> >> >> >corps, peace corps
> >> >>
> >> >> Yeah, well - unlike you, it's clear that I have no interest (or
> >time) to go about measuring some sort of subjective self-worth based
> >purely upon how much respect it might garner from someone else on an
> >> >> electronic newsgroup, least of all you.
Why you yowling and sweating blood then?
> >> >
And oh yeah, serving garners a lot of respect, my hard earned sea
storys make people like Jimbo & Chuck who have none, foam at the mouth.
> >>
> >> Hardly, though they might take a pot-shot at you every now and
then -
> >> just to watch you do the monkey dance but foam at the mouth -
Hey I'm a rather old fashioned good ole boy, if your hairs long, your a
damn hippie. If you didn't do any form of National Sevice then ya just
got to be some kind of chicken shit or draft dodger
> >
> > Nope I profiled them as soon as they started squeeling just like I
> >would any other VC, habit I suppose. Apparently I'm a better private
> >dick than the one Chuck claims he hired
>
> Actually, it's a public newgroup - and in that respect, you're not so
> much a private dick but a public dickweed.
Scary huh? Yet you still hang on my every post <snerk>
>
> >
> >> >> >You choose to live off the fat of the land while
> >> >> >other young people sacrifice....
> >> >>
> >> >> Oh, you mean now?
Well at the least, they get haircuts and pointed in the right
direction....Then waste 3 or 4 years of their lives standing in lines,
standing boring assed watchs or doing repetitive mindless jobs some
marionette thinks up that can include policing the area, painting rocks
or even mess cooking....At the worst, they end up in a combat area and
dead or injured...The military pay never even comes close to civilian
standards....when I went in long long ago the starting pay was only $40
or $50 a month but I though shit, they gave me shoes DAMN I'm in high
cotton 3 pair "low quarters, boon dockers and a pair of boat
shoes....I'd never owned three pairs of shoes at the same time in my
whole life...It wuzzn't till graduation that I found out they took all
that shit out of my pay and instead of getting a $48 paycheck. I owed
them over $80....Dayum my momma tolt me not to trust no Yankee Guvment
and I wouldn't listen. Just had to see the world hahahaha...shit even
after earning 3 hashmarks and a good sized crow, my base pay, BEQ, sea
pay and in country Hazard fire pay
never totalled over $900 or $1,000 a month and by then I found I didn't
care about killing much, so I hang it up and become a Teamster....the
pay for whipping up on people was a lot better and you didn't have to
kill the creeps <snicker>
> >
> >>From the day you became a szlacker "probably early childhood".
>
> Probably? You're still guessing, of course and you're making guesses
Educated guesses, just on your presentation, didn't I just give you a
briefing on "importance of presentation" last Sunday? You sleeping in
class lad?
> so to arrive at answers which are comforting for you. No big deal -
> just pretty transparent and weak, is all. Well, I tried to enlist as
> soon as I cleared nursery school but they wouldn't take four year
> olds,
Yeah, they cuddn't draft your butt till ya was 18 in my day, they were
gonna catch up with me in the 9th grade so I ended up at NROTC San
Diego
at 17 years and one week old, more ways than one to dodge the Army and
Marines hahahahahaha yeeeha
no matter how good they were at wiffle-ball. The hard-asses
> were demanding at least a Kindergarten diploma before they would let
> me join.
Shit a sixth grade education and doing time down on the county pea farm
quallifed you for three branchs of service in days of yore, The Air
Force and Coast Guard were a bit more picky----No pea farm or chain
gang time
allowed....Navy advancement manuals were written on a 9th grade reading
& comprehension level. They moved them up from Grammer school level
just before I started taking the Petty Officer tests....Good thing or I
mighta ended up a Full Admiral, Damn I hope Whalther learned how to
make a kill file or he's gonna shit a brick! ROFL
>
>
> >
> >> >And I just thought some lucid person should point out to you that
> >> >those 2000 quick jumps you think make you special don't.
> >>
> >> Who ever said, least of all myself,
------------->presentation, you seem to have a problem getting a grip
on that Jerry, don't feel bad - most skygods do <smerk>
> ...bsrp
> ...jerry buttpucker
the unknown flailer
Nothing, you're giving me all the help I want or need....we are gonna
make "Boning Mike" a house hold name before its over
tsk tsk tsk you alone managed to change it from Lodi Mike
to you know what......Attaboy kid. ;)
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
Yeah - well, that'd be an issue to consider if there was some
violation of the taxcode going on but you go ahead and keep a sharp
eye out on the tax-courts for when they haul my ass in. Then you'll
know if this particular fantasy of yours has managed to crossover into
reality. Sheesh - now you're get all excited about some imminent
arrest by the feds? What's next? Ring around the collar? Dandruff?
> My studied opinion?
>If you refuse to serve your country, ya artta pay extra tax's so the
>fine youngsters who do both regular & reserve will get a pay raise, the
>best facilitys, body armor and weapons avaliable....Afraid I lack
>sympathy again
>kid....I turned my damn diddy bag inside out and didn't find a shred of
>it
What if you agree to serve your country but do it in a really
piss-poor fashion?
>
>
>draft-dodging as a means of supporting the supposition that because
>> someone calls you on being a whiny bitch for invoking the "skygod"
>> boogieman that this calling is in any way not also accurate.
>>
>Yeah, to bads they done away with the draft, you could dodge it like
>your dodging tax's <eg>
Well, sure - I mean, if there was a draft I could dodge it (on age
alone) but I got no control over that, but if I were in the right age
bracket - I'd report like most people would but then, since I'm no
different than most people in that most people are required to and do
pay their taxes, as do I - but, I suppose since you have now imagined
me as a draft dodger and a tax avoider, nevermind the reality here,
it's abundantly clear that this is how things really are, eh? Was
that me in that truck on 1276? Imagine it's possible.
>> >
>> >> >> >I'd respect any kind of National Service, America
>> >> >> >corps, peace corps
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yeah, well - unlike you, it's clear that I have no interest (or
>> >time) to go about measuring some sort of subjective self-worth based
>> >purely upon how much respect it might garner from someone else on an
>> >> >> electronic newsgroup, least of all you.
>
>Why you yowling and sweating blood then?
What, you mean the step by step deconstruction of your comments and
assertions when they're wrong or mired to the gills in lame-o
rhetorical bullshit? If you mean that then you really got your head
up your ass if you think anyone would do that in order to acquire some
sort of bogus "respect" from whoever might be reading this little
backwater of the usenet. You seem to be so wrapped up in self that
you cannot even begin to imagine anyone doing anything if it does not
elicit some sort of response from others which can then be re-directed
towards one's own self in an affirming fashion.
>> >> >
> And oh yeah, serving garners a lot of respect, my hard earned sea
>storys make people like Jimbo & Chuck who have none, foam at the mouth.
>> >>
>> >> Hardly, though they might take a pot-shot at you every now and
>then -
>> >> just to watch you do the monkey dance but foam at the mouth -
>
>Hey I'm a rather old fashioned good ole boy, if your hairs long, your a
>damn hippie.
It's always surprising (and amusing) when self-described "good o'l
boys" start flapping their wrists over coiffure. You may be a one of
these "good o'l boys" (I think you're just posing) but you sure got
some hairstylist proclivities. As for hair length being indcative of
nothing but a sepcific, identifiable caste consider: Washington or
JEB Stuart or even the surviving members of Lynard Skynard. Hell,
even that achy-breaky good o'l boy who sang that song might fall into
that same unfortunate caste.
>If you didn't do any form of National Sevice then ya just
>got to be some kind of chicken shit or draft dodger
Heh - which category would you assign Hoffa to?
>> >
>> > Nope I profiled them as soon as they started squeeling just like I
>> >would any other VC, habit I suppose. Apparently I'm a better private
>> >dick than the one Chuck claims he hired
>>
>> Actually, it's a public newgroup - and in that respect, you're not so
>> much a private dick but a public dickweed.
>
>Scary huh? Yet you still hang on my every post
No, not every one - just the ones where you're either getting
something wrong and/or miring the place with the rhetorical claptrap.
I know it might seem like every one and it's certainly I would guess
the majority but certainly not every single post.
>>
>> >
>> >> >> >You choose to live off the fat of the land while
>> >> >> >other young people sacrifice....
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Oh, you mean now?
>
>Well at the least, they get haircuts and pointed in the right
>direction....Then waste 3 or 4 years of their lives standing in lines,
>standing boring assed watchs or doing repetitive mindless jobs some
>marionette thinks up that can include policing the area, painting rocks
>or even mess cooking....At the worst, they end up in a combat area and
>dead or injured...The military pay never even comes close to civilian
>standards....when I went in long long ago the starting pay was only $40
>or $50 a month but I though shit, they gave me shoes DAMN I'm in high
>cotton 3 pair "low quarters, boon dockers and a pair of boat
>shoes....I'd never owned three pairs of shoes at the same time in my
>whole life...It wuzzn't till graduation that I found out they took all
>that shit out of my pay and instead of getting a $48 paycheck. I owed
>them over $80....Dayum my momma tolt me not to trust no Yankee Guvment
>and I wouldn't listen. Just had to see the world hahahaha...shit even
>after earning 3 hashmarks and a good sized crow, my base pay, BEQ, sea
>pay and in country Hazard fire pay
>never totalled over $900 or $1,000 a month and by then I found I didn't
>care about killing much, so I hang it up and become a Teamster....the
>pay for whipping up on people was a lot better and you didn't have to
>kill the creeps
I guess you worked the hairstylest end of enforement, eh? Were you a
coiffure-goon? Swinging giant hairbrushes...cornering hapless
upper-office types and giving them split ends?
>> >
>> >>From the day you became a szlacker "probably early childhood".
>>
>> Probably? You're still guessing, of course and you're making guesses
>
>Educated guesses, just on your presentation, didn't I just give you a
>briefing on "importance of presentation" last Sunday? You sleeping in
>class lad?
You went so far as to suggest "it's" all about presentation but that
just strikes me as so enormously steeped in political correctness, as
it denies the message for the outward trappings which surround the
message, I paid it no mind. Your "educated" guesses are, when you get
down to it, based solely upon me essentially taking aspects of your
"philosophy," deconstructing it with simple reality, and throwing what
remains back at you. That's a pretty one dimensional assessment
you're equating to "educated," but then, your assessment has nothing
to do with reality but only to do with feeding your self-affirming
fantasies.
>
>> so to arrive at answers which are comforting for you. No big deal -
>> just pretty transparent and weak, is all. Well, I tried to enlist as
>> soon as I cleared nursery school but they wouldn't take four year
>> olds,
>
>Yeah, they cuddn't draft your butt till ya was 18 in my day, they were
>gonna catch up with me in the 9th grade so I ended up at NROTC San
>Diego
>at 17 years and one week old, more ways than one to dodge the Army and
>Marines hahahahahaha yeeeha
I thought you could enlist when you were 16 or 17 but just the same,
it is amusing to hear you revel in dodging the draft yourself.
>
>
> no matter how good they were at wiffle-ball. The hard-asses
>> were demanding at least a Kindergarten diploma before they would let
>> me join.
>
>Shit a sixth grade education and doing time down on the county pea farm
>quallifed you for three branchs of service in days of yore, The Air
>Force and Coast Guard were a bit more picky----No pea farm or chain
>gang time
>allowed....Navy advancement manuals were written on a 9th grade reading
>& comprehension level. They moved them up from Grammer school level
>just before I started taking the Petty Officer tests....Good thing or I
>mighta ended up a Full Admiral, Damn I hope Whalther learned how to
>make a kill file or he's gonna shit a brick! ROFL
Ya know - it's entirely possible to "killfile" without actually
telling the computer to do it automatically. I know this is getting
highly technical so I'll go over it again if you have difficulty
following the concept - basically, you idenitfy who the author is and
if you don't wish to read a particular author (think outside the box
here, Jinnie) - you don't.
>>
>>
>> >
>> >> >And I just thought some lucid person should point out to you that
>> >> >those 2000 quick jumps you think make you special don't.
>> >>
>> >> Who ever said, least of all myself,
>
>------------->presentation, you seem to have a problem getting a grip
>on that Jerry, don't feel bad - most skygods do <smerk>
Yeah, well - if not paying creedence to how a package is wrapped, but
only to what the package contains in your mind equates to some
preconception concerning various and specific castes, some perhaps
more worthy of disdain than others, the whole skygod concept must not
be as bad as you make it out to be - I mean, at least such possessors
of such a label aren't all wrapped up in political correctness, if the
idea of how a message is presented always trumps what the message
entails is valid.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
Hell, you started the thread - it's not like I give a shit what the
thread's called. If you got a thing about boning him, it's nothing to
me.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> Hell, you started the thread - it's not like I give a shit what the
> thread's called. If you got a thing about boning him, it's nothing
to
> me.
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
Hell I reckon not, I'm out on point hustling up targets and your back
there picking your nose & walking slack like a little political suck
ass
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
No sure how heading posts conceptually with the idea of boning other
guys is hustling up targets - sounds to me more like a cry for help.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On 4 Apr 2005 04:39:44 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Jerry K. wrote:
> >> On 3 Apr 2005 21:29:24 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> >> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >The day I do even one pushup for any long haired draft dodging
> >> >hippie will be the day freedom is pushing up daisy's--------LOG
> >> >>
> >> >> Heh - can't dodge the draft when it wasn't around to be dodged
> >> >> ...bsrp
> >> >> ...jlk
> >> >
> >> >Freedom is not free kid, you cudda volunteered to serve your
country
> >in some capacityy...
> >>
> >> Who says I never have?
> >
> >Paying taxs don't count, to many citizens have learned to cheat on
> >that, specially USPA types - for instance do you pay tax's on your
jump
> >ticket discounts and/or any other dz perks or earnings? hummmmm?
>
> Not that it's anyone's business beyond the irs and myself,
absolutely,
> but what - now you wanna work the who pays taxes angle?
> >> ...jlk
Draconian, thats the word I was looking for the 4th to describe the
laws
IRS uses....it almost looks like its based on the Napoleonic codes but
their far milder, your fried boy.....Ya ain't got no rights when they
catch up with yer chizzling butt for jumping on their nickle. ohhhhh
beat the drum slowly, play the fife lowly. A fine young long haired
bitch
has had his skydiving shit confiscated in lieu of bax tax's. Thats OK
though cuz I'm thinking none of the Federal Pens allow jumping Jerry.
HAW HAW HAW your it! ;)P
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On 4 Apr 2005 18:38:20 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
> > My studied opinion?
> >If you refuse to serve your country, ya artta pay extra tax's so the
> >fine youngsters who do both regular & reserve will get a pay raise,
the
> >best facilitys, body armor and weapons avaliable....Afraid I lack
> >sympathy again kid....I turned my damn diddy bag inside out and
didn't > >find a shred of it
>
> What if you agree to serve your country but do it in a really
> piss-poor fashion?
> ...jlk
HA, they have ways of motivating you....I can see you with short hair
doing a 4 year hitch as a Seaman Apprentice mess cooking or on head
detail or doing both. ohhhh yeah I'm getting a woody just thinking
about it. 0;)
tweet tweet
(((NOW HEAR THIS)))
"Sweepers, Sweepers man your brooms. Clean sweepdown fore and aft!"
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
>Jerry K. wrote:
>> On 4 Apr 2005 18:38:20 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
>> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>> > My studied opinion?
>> >If you refuse to serve your country, ya artta pay extra tax's so the
>> >fine youngsters who do both regular & reserve will get a pay raise,
>the
>> >best facilitys, body armor and weapons avaliable....Afraid I lack
>> >sympathy again kid....I turned my damn diddy bag inside out and
>didn't > >find a shred of it
>>
>> What if you agree to serve your country but do it in a really
>> piss-poor fashion?
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk
>
>HA, they have ways of motivating you....I can see you with short hair
>doing a 4 year hitch as a Seaman Apprentice mess cooking or on head
>detail or doing both. ohhhh yeah I'm getting a woody just thinking
>about it. 0;)
Such is the nature of fantasies - wash up when you're done.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
Well, I would be if there was some sort of violation going on and they
felt like doing anything about it but well short of that is about as
far as your fantasy can travel towards this side of reality. So, as
ever, please contiue working yourself into whatever little comforting
frenzy you got going and spit in one hand and wish with the other for
the irs to get after frying my ass. You been making a lot of wishes
lately - how's it all been working out?
>Ya ain't got no rights when they
>catch up with yer chizzling butt for jumping on their nickle.
Right but that would only be a factor if there was some sort of
violation going on. Sure, guilty until proven innocent, that's all
clear - but I'm thinking you're gonna have to wish just a little bit
harder for them to start charging me for violations which reside only
in your latest wierd fantasy as opposed to any actually being
perpetrated out here in the real world.
>ohhhhh
>beat the drum slowly, play the fife lowly. A fine young long haired
>bitch
>has had his skydiving shit confiscated in lieu of bax tax's.
Stand Clear! Jinnie's gonna start squirting any moment now!!!
>Thats OK
>though cuz I'm thinking none of the Federal Pens allow jumping Jerry.
Ah, you'd love that, eh? Dwell on that one for a little while...feel
the burn...let the envy sweep across, around, and all over...good, eh?
Cigarette?
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On 5 Apr 2005 12:01:56 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
> >Ya ain't got no rights when they
> >catch up with yer chizzling butt for jumping on their nickle.
>
> Right but that would only be a factor if there was some sort of
> violation going on. Sure, guilty until proven innocent, that's all
> clear
I just hate to see a chizzler who will stand by and let others pay thye
price...If yer a raving coward or love money more than your own country
and don't want to pay your fair share ya artta move out and make room
for immigrants who will because they know the price of freedom
> >ohhhhh
> >beat the drum slowly, play the fife lowly. A fine young long haired
> >bitch
> >has had his skydiving shit confiscated in lieu of bax tax's.
>
> Stand Clear! Jinnie's gonna start squirting any moment now!!!
>
> >Thats OK
> >though cuz I'm thinking none of the Federal Pens allow jumping
Jerry.
>
> Ah, you'd love that, eh? Dwell on that one for a little while...feel
> the burn...let the envy sweep across, around, and all over...good,
eh?
No but I'm a great believer in "you do the crime you do the time!"
>
> Cigarette?
shit no, you probably didn't pay tax on them ya cheap peckerwood.
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
>Jerry K. wrote:
>> On 5 Apr 2005 12:01:56 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
>> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>> >Ya ain't got no rights when they
>> >catch up with yer chizzling butt for jumping on their nickle.
>>
>> Right but that would only be a factor if there was some sort of
>> violation going on. Sure, guilty until proven innocent, that's all
>> clear
>
>
>I just hate to see a chizzler who will stand by and let others pay thye
>price...
Quit you're whining you big girl and spare us the rhetoric - if I
wasn't busting your ass for when you step in it so often, you wouldn't
be batting an eye on my account.
>If yer a raving coward or love money more than your own country
>and don't want to pay your fair share ya artta move out and make room
>for immigrants who will because they know the price of freedom
Move? And subject one's self to the foreign policy?
>
>
>> >ohhhhh
>> >beat the drum slowly, play the fife lowly. A fine young long haired
>> >bitch
>> >has had his skydiving shit confiscated in lieu of bax tax's.
>>
>> Stand Clear! Jinnie's gonna start squirting any moment now!!!
>>
>> >Thats OK
>> >though cuz I'm thinking none of the Federal Pens allow jumping
>Jerry.
>>
>> Ah, you'd love that, eh? Dwell on that one for a little while...feel
>> the burn...let the envy sweep across, around, and all over...good,
>eh?
>
>No but I'm a great believer in "you do the crime you do the time!"
Where was this sentiment the last time you got hauled up in front of a
judge for lighting off firearms at other people? Heh - also nice to
see Robert Blake get off on that one.
>>
>> Cigarette?
>
>shit no, you probably didn't pay tax on them ya cheap peckerwood.
Oh yeah - all duty free. What, you now working for the big,
draconian, and Napoleonic lawish irs now? Pitching wood for the bean
counters? My, sooner or later I'll bet you'll be masquerading as some
mother of some ex-girlfriend - if it's rhetorically feasible.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Jerry K. wrote:
> On 6 Apr 2005 02:03:48 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Jerry K. wrote:
> >> On 5 Apr 2005 12:01:56 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> >> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
> >> >Ya ain't got no rights when they
> >> >catch up with yer chizzling butt for jumping on their nickle.
> >>
> >> Right but that would only be a factor if there was some sort of
> >> violation going on. Sure, guilty until proven innocent, that's
all
> >> clear
> >
> >
> >I just hate to see a chizzler who will stand by and let others pay
> >price...
>
> Quit you're whining you big girl and spare us the rhetoric - if I
> wasn't busting your ass for when you step in it so often, you
wouldn't
> be batting an eye on my account.
doubt it, I've always been able to smell chickenshit from a fer
piece
> >If yer a raving coward or love money more than your own country
> >and don't want to pay your fair share ya artta move out and make
room
> >for immigrants who will because they know the price of freedom
>
> Move? And subject one's self to the foreign policy?
Yuh, George Jr's Foreign policy does seem to chap ass's overseas heh
heh
> >> >ohhhhh
> >> >beat the drum slowly, play the fife lowly. A fine young long
haired
> >> >bitch
> >> >has had his skydiving shit confiscated in lieu of bax tax's.
> >>
> >> Stand Clear! Jinnie's gonna start squirting any moment now!!!
Nuh, I cum when the typical DZ skates tax finiggling I used to see
occured to me....Thought...this will get the kids shorts in a knot &
shot my wad
instantly
> >> >Thats OK
> >> >though cuz I'm thinking none of the Federal Pens allow jumping
> >Jerry.
> >>
> >> Ah, you'd love that, eh? Dwell on that one for a little
while...feel
> >> the burn...let the envy sweep across, around, and all over...good,
> >eh?
> >
> >No but I'm a great believer in "you do the crime you do the time!"
>
> Where was this sentiment the last time you got hauled up in front of
a
> judge for lighting off firearms at other people? Heh - also nice to
> see Robert Blake get off on that one.
The Navy sent me to a 9 week CI/SERE school back in 1969. We spent 3
weeks of it up at A.P. Hill just on escape & Evasion pratice in the
field....Shit I'd be willing to disguise myself as Robert Blake, a old
Ba, enemy soldier or what ever it took to escape...You think I was born
like I am. Hell no the Military taught me to be tricky. I just choose
to use the more gentle PSYOPS part of another swchool on the NPS Nazi's
& skygody USPA Chickenshits like you (all mostly young) 0~;)
Cigarette?
> >
> >shit no, you probably didn't pay tax on them ya cheap peckerwood.
>
> Oh yeah - all duty free. What, you now working for the big,
> draconian, and Napoleonic lawish irs now? Pitching wood for the bean
> counters?
No I get them legally tax free, only fricking tax break I ever got
except
the one for service in a combat zone, shit the outgoing mail was even
free.
Now I have to buy from the Injuns to legally bypass state & federal
tax's on cigarettes. Thats just how far out in the woods I live ya big
city sissy
shucks I'm pratically on the Reservation...the indians treat me better
than you wite eyes, course like one old tribal council member said
"We have a tradition of respecting crazy spirits, the bodys they
inhabit are considered holy by us" 0~;)P
> ...bsrp
> ...jerry puckerbutt
Jerry K.
<kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>
>Jerry K. wrote:
>> On 6 Apr 2005 02:03:48 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
>> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Jerry K. wrote:
>> >> On 5 Apr 2005 12:01:56 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
>> >> <kam...@eastex.net> wrote:
>> >> >Ya ain't got no rights when they
>> >> >catch up with yer chizzling butt for jumping on their nickle.
>> >>
>> >> Right but that would only be a factor if there was some sort of
>> >> violation going on. Sure, guilty until proven innocent, that's
>all
>> >> clear
>> >
>> >
>> >I just hate to see a chizzler who will stand by and let others pay
>the
>> >price...
>>
>> Quit you're whining you big girl and spare us the rhetoric - if I
>> wasn't busting your ass for when you step in it so often, you
>wouldn't
>> be batting an eye on my account.
>
>
> doubt it, I've always been able to smell chickenshit from a fer
>piece
Hmmm...so this must mean that you are perhaps, already now, smelling
future detractors who will, in their own time, give you what will
likely be your due rations of shit further on down the line. So - who
are they? What kind of skydiving do they do? Where do they skydive?
You got any specifics? Maybe some names?
>
>
>
>
>> >If yer a raving coward or love money more than your own country
>> >and don't want to pay your fair share ya artta move out and make
>room
>> >for immigrants who will because they know the price of freedom
>>
>> Move? And subject one's self to the foreign policy?
>
> Yuh, George Jr's Foreign policy does seem to chap ass's overseas heh
>heh
Hell, he wasn't the first and this country ain't the only one which
ever had questionable foreign policies
>
>> >> >ohhhhh
>> >> >beat the drum slowly, play the fife lowly. A fine young long
>haired
>> >> >bitch
>> >> >has had his skydiving shit confiscated in lieu of bax tax's.
>> >>
>> >> Stand Clear! Jinnie's gonna start squirting any moment now!!!
>
>
>Nuh, I cum when the typical DZ skates tax finiggling I used to see
>occured to me....
So, you "used to see" tax improprieties going on back when you jumped,
eh? Even then you were counting beans. Whadja do? Keep your own set
of books on everyone? Likely, what you "see" was in reality perhaps
present as a question and certainly as an unknown, but also never
definitively answered and remains so even now - just a guess -
nevermind the rhetorically comforting, foregone conclusion.
>Thought...this will get the kids shorts in a knot &
>shot my wad
>instantly
Translation of "shorts- in-not" following along the lines of a level
deconstruction of the fanstasy with perhaps a little ridicule thrown
in. Hell, with the way it's got you so ~expressedly~ excited, seems
it ain't just your shorts notting up.
>
>
>> >> >Thats OK
>> >> >though cuz I'm thinking none of the Federal Pens allow jumping
>> >Jerry.
>> >>
>> >> Ah, you'd love that, eh? Dwell on that one for a little
>while...feel
>> >> the burn...let the envy sweep across, around, and all over...good,
>> >eh?
>> >
>> >No but I'm a great believer in "you do the crime you do the time!"
>>
>> Where was this sentiment the last time you got hauled up in front of
>a
>> judge for lighting off firearms at other people? Heh - also nice to
>> see Robert Blake get off on that one.
>
>The Navy sent me to a 9 week CI/SERE school back in 1969. We spent 3
>weeks of it up at A.P. Hill just on escape & Evasion pratice in the
>field....Shit I'd be willing to disguise myself as Robert Blake, a old
>Ba, enemy soldier or what ever it took to escape...You think I was born
>like I am. Hell no the Military taught me to be tricky. I just choose
>to use the more gentle PSYOPS part of another swchool on the NPS Nazi's
>& skygody USPA Chickenshits like you (all mostly young) 0~;)
It's clear "they" possibly taught you to blame them for any overt
character flaws but I got a feeling that's all genetic.
>
> Cigarette?
>> >
>> >shit no, you probably didn't pay tax on them ya cheap peckerwood.
>>
>> Oh yeah - all duty free. What, you now working for the big,
>> draconian, and Napoleonic lawish irs now? Pitching wood for the bean
>> counters?
>
>No I get them legally tax free, only fricking tax break I ever got
>except
>the one for service in a combat zone, shit the outgoing mail was even
>free.
>Now I have to buy from the Injuns to legally bypass state & federal
>tax's on cigarettes.
Sounds like chizzling to me but you got an out there - as an addict
you can blame the product for your chizzling as opposed to doing the
right thing and paying those taxes. Hell, better hope ATF ain't
reading this garbage. Sure, you ~say~ it's legal but that group's got
a record of treating citizens as armed, dangerous, and murderously
pissed before the facts are in.
>Thats just how far out in the woods I live ya big
>city sissy
>shucks I'm pratically on the Reservation...the indians treat me better
>than you wite eyes,
Now, *that's* some impressive whining! Shrill in its suggestion of
Past Massacre, Plague, Broken Treaties, and Subjegation.
>course like one old tribal council member said
>"We have a tradition of respecting crazy spirits, the bodys they
>inhabit are considered holy by us"
Ummm...ya know - there's probably some Native American newsgroups and
almost certainly a Coushatta website maybe with a message list you
could go utilize and in so doing, bask in your most deservedly
respectfull dingleberry status. Maybe call you "Dances With Pretense"
or "Big Whiny Bitch," or something. Hell, they called Sam Houston
"Big Drunk." Whatever they would be calling you, accept it with grace
and honor - if only for the fact that you're camping on land once
inhabited by others.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Well the general profile will be someone having a raving case of
Little Dick Syndrome, be under 65 and a member of the USPA working or
wanting to work some DZ angle to pick up bucks to supplement their cost
but not reporting it as income...Greed overtakes them and the DZ angle
turns into a almost part time job far surpassing anything they would
need to support their skydiving habit. Perhaps enough to get you 15 or
20 years at a Federal rec center tsk tsk tsk What ever happened to;
"giving back to the sport?" OK I'll give you one name----->Biggy Jim I
can work him like a Heifer.
> >
> >
> >> >If yer a low down dirty coward or love money more than your own
country
> >> >and don't want to pay your fair share ya artta move out and make
> >room
> >> >for immigrants who will because they know the price of freedom
> >>
> >> Move? And subject one's self to the foreign policy?
> >
> > Yuh, George Jr's Foreign policy does seem to chap ass's overseas
heh
> >heh
>
> Hell, he wasn't the first and this country ain't the only one which
> ever had questionable foreign policies
>
I spent over a decade at sea or on foreign shores, working daily with
my host countrys military, out of close contact with the USN most of
the time~ Hell the nearest US Embassy held my service jacket one time
because their were no US Military installations avaliable Mostly living
on the local economy with a few draws and my BEQ/Cola plus a handout
here and there from passing USS Ships or American units in the area, so
I understand how our Foreign policy can cause problems except back then
it was mostly arrogant American tourists and Conventional U.S. Troops
in other countrys causing the bad feelings. Often read that novel "The
Ugly American" and thought "this guy has the essence of my countrys
foreign problems down pretty good." I often pretended not to be a
American when in local cloths If a U.S. Citizen walked up and asked me
anything, anything at all---I always answered in the local langiuage
pretending to be a foreigner on vacation myself incase they spoke the
lingo theirself. Got in trouble twice pulling that shit. Had a local
with me that knew I was a US Citizen one time and he couldn't
understand why I refused to gossip with a tourist from my own country,
the guy with me got miffed. The 2nd time I was being bad up at Rocarosa
and pissed off some French skiers....had them convinced I was Russian
and the local police didn't want to get involved so these French sissys
complained to the USSR's embassy about my actions. Lets just say our
State department wasn't pleased and the Rooskies really raised hell,
like their not assholes themselves...They knew who did it, just
couldn't catch up with me and didn't like getting the bad PR for
something someone else did to insult the French. See I even had a
diabolical mind that far back..A field officer showed up on my doorstep
and said "JUST WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING?' I sez "Well
people think poorly enough about us and our country, I figgered the
Russians were the next biggest assholes in the known world so I let
them french wennies think I was Russian, ya know kinda spread the
responsibility around. how did I know they would run whining to their
Embassy?" He was pretty pissed...said I didn't have the big picture on
foreign policy & relations, for instance the French were thinking of
pulling out of NATO.
"Degauls a asshole anyway and the French surrender to quick to suit
me!"
"You keep youre nose out of diplomacy and stick to military affairs. My
god your not even a Commisioned Officer yada yada yada and ended with
the USN will be notified of your bad behavior!"
"What bad behavior?
"Creating a diplomatic incident."
"What for roughing up a couple of Frenchys by accident?"
"No, for dragging the Russians into it!"
"Well screw them if they cain't take a joke."
~yup it appears I mighta had some ugly american genes myself~
The Navy never mentioned it to me durning my next RTR stateside, just
sent me to Vietnam as a CoVan, which I survived....arn't you happy?
<SNARF>
> >A fine young long haired skydiving bitch
> >> >> >has had his skydiving shit confiscated in lieu of back tax's.
> >> >>
> >> >> Stand Clear! Jinnie's gonna start squirting any moment now!!!
> >
> >
> >Nuh, I cum when the typical DZ skates tax finiggling I used to see
> >occured to me....
>
> So, you "used to see" tax improprieties going on back when you
jumped,
> eh? Even then you were counting beans. Whadja do? Keep your own
set
> of books on everyone?
No, I was trained to observe and remember things outside the excepted
norm
and that particular scam was.
I don't see them as flaws and at the time neither did they I'm thinking
cuz they kept giving me high ER's and advancing my rank
>
> >
> > Cigarette?
> >> >
> >> >shit no, you probably didn't pay tax on them ya cheap peckerwood.
> >>
> >> Oh yeah - all duty free. What, you now working for the big,
> >> draconian, and Napoleonic lawish irs now? Pitching wood for the
bean
> >> counters?
> >
> >No I get them legally tax free, only fricking tax break I ever got
> >except
> >the one for service in a combat zone, shit the outgoing mail was
even
> >free.
>
>
> >Now I have to buy from the Injuns to legally bypass state & federal
> >tax's on cigarettes.
>
> Sounds like chizzling to me but you got an out there - as an addict
> you can blame the product for your chizzling as opposed to doing the
> right thing and paying those taxes. Hell, better hope ATF ain't
> reading this garbage. Sure, you ~say~ it's legal but that group's
got
> a record of treating citizens as armed, dangerous, and murderously
> pissed before the facts are in.
No its perfectly legal...Navy Skippers used to do the same thing,
single up
and get underway...steam out beyond the 12 mile limit and let the
smokers among the crew buy cigarettes for $2 a carton...all perfectly
legal as long as they weren't resold by the buyers and I ain't worried
about no Guvment men...I think since the bridge incident they decided
to "let sleeping dogs lay."
>
> >Thats just how far out in the woods I live ya big
> >city sissy shucks I'm pratically on the Reservation...the indians
treat > >me better than you white eyes,
>
> Now, *that's* some impressive whining! Shrill in its suggestion of
> Past Massacre, Plague, Broken Treaties, and Subjegation.
Nah, the Alabama have always been fairly peaceable, shit once you get
to know them, their just like any other good ole boy back here in the
woods.
>
> >course like one old tribal council member said
> >"We have a tradition of respecting crazy spirits, the bodys they
> >inhabit are considered holy by us"
>
> Ummm...ya know - there's probably some Native American newsgroups and
> almost certainly a Coushatta website maybe with a message list you
> could go utilize and in so doing, bask in your most deservedly
> respectfull dingleberry status. Maybe call you "Dances With
Pretense"
> or "Big Whiny Bitch," or something. Hell, they called Sam Houston
> "Big Drunk." Whatever they would be calling you, accept it with
grace
> and honor - if only for the fact that you're camping on land once
> inhabited by others.
No no no and no. I'd rather stay over here funning yawl although the
state did come out and put a historical sign up along the FM road and I
went out and sighted down the pole it sits on.....Looks like my Rocking
Chair might be setting right in the middle of a old timey indian trail
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jerry buttpucker