Jim D-10154
Man small... why fall ? Skies call... thats all.
>He got those FF wings with his 13 month FXC check during his 90 day repack
>cycle.......LOL
right after the big battle at Gang Bang ?
Jumping out of R5D's at Cessna dropzones.
>>Subject: Re: Snuffies 6hr FF wings
>>From: "SkydiverRick" Skydiv...@hotmail.com
>>Date: 12/3/03 1:03 PM Eastern Standard Time
>>Message-id: <xzpzb.93882$Vs1....@twister.austin.rr.com>
>
>>>> Tell us more about the 6hr FF wings you say you qualified for.
>>>>
>>>> Jim D-10154
>>>
>>> He got those FF wings with his 13 month FXC check during his 90 day
>>> repack cycle.......LOL
>>
>>Jumping out of R5D's at Cessna dropzones.
>
>If I might add, with an A1 rolling in on a gun run, off of bimbo point
Smiling the smile of the finest drag queen in the fleet.
...bsrp
...jlk
goldamn somebody finally woke jimhoe up and he got his nose outta that jumbo
sized bag of pork rinds long enuff to type...yuh the first FF wings you cud
earn them in 6 or 700 jumps back then, no protracks ya hadda go by the FF chart
in the back of yer logbook and I had more than a few
24/5's being a boogie till ya puke type ;)P
the old Philosopher
6 hours?
Gee Wally, that'd only be one wing.
the old Philosopher
why be different than the rest of the membership? "When in Rome"
the old Philosopher
>All you got to do is rejoin USPA and >whine, lie and they will send them to
>you.
Gee I'm such a smooth mover, maybe I can git Rick his 1981 D number while I'm
at it heh heh
the old Philosopher
>>Tell us more about the 6hr FF wings you >say you qualified for.
>yuh the first FF wings you cud
>earn them in 6 or 700 jumps back then,
Ah....so "back then"...in the outlaw 90s you could get 6hr freefall
wings...with 6-700 jumps ?
You are so full of shit, and a liar to boot.
There isnt any award for 6 hours of freefall. Never has been.
Although you did say you qualified for them after guessing that you had 4-500
jumps in the recent past.
Even if you werent lieing about your jump totals you wouldnt have qualified
anyway.
But then again....we've have caught you in so many lies here its losing its
charm.
the old Philosopher
Dumbass.
...bsrp
...jlk
I'm sure that was one of the (few) thoughts that crossed your mind as
you were going up on your final jump.
...bsrp
...jlk
Yeah, but you're not in Rome. You're skydiving career is more
representitive of Carthage and you were it's Cicero.
...bsrp
...jlk
>>heh if I keep milking this I'll git gold >wings before its over o~;->
>>
>
>>All you got to do is rejoin USPA and >whine, lie and they will send them to
>>you.
>
>Gee I'm such a smooth mover,
Be sure to give ExLax it's due.
>maybe I can git Rick his 1981 D number while I'm
>at it
Hell, maybe if I ever send off for the wings I can get you the set you
woulda had if you'd been able to keep after it.
...bsrp
...jlk
I don't want no whores gold wings...I want the funjumpers one, thats all I was
gonna git, the 36 way falcon, mega eagle and gold wings too late now .o~;)P
the old Philosopher
it was but I knew a 36 way Falcon was out
the old Philosopher
>looks like a float up on the formation blimp like yew wudda got the primary
>FF
>wings by now,
Hey fatboy.....I got the 6 hr FF wings although the 6 has a 3 in front of it.
float up that bad huh? o~;)P
the old Philosopher
Shoulda thought about it while hanging the harness. Timing is
everything.
...bsrp
...jlk
>>All you got to do is rejoin USPA and >whine, lie and they will send them to
>>>>you.
>>>
>>>Gee I'm such a smooth mover,
>>
>>Be sure to give ExLax it's due.
>>
>>
>>>maybe I can git Rick the 1981 D he forgot to send in for while I'm
>>>at it ;)
>>
>>Hell, maybe if I ever send off for the wings I can get you the set you
>>woulda had if you'd been able to keep after it.
>>
>>...bsrp
>
>I don't want no whores gold wings...
>I want the funjumpers one,
There's no discernable difference but beside the point - while beggars
can't be choosers, you ain't getting either!
Wait - I think you called me a funjumper on some other thread so you
*DO* want my Goldwings. Tought tittie - still ain't getting a
set...you gotta EARN it.
> thats all I was
>gonna git, the 36 way falcon, mega eagle and gold wings too late now .
Well, I dunno about that - I mean, I'm sure once the D level got
raised to 500 minimum you'da been cranking the jumps up to 500 asap
'cause you wouldn't like it if some D with a higher number had more
jumps than you. Yeah, thrn you'd be explaining the real difference
between 200 jump D's and 500 jump D's and you know? I'll bet the
descriptions would switch poles right about the moment you got to the
other side. All beside the point - maybe you can get a set from the
Make A Wish Foundation (tm) or something like that. Maybe a parade!
And then we could turn the o'l barn into a stage everyone'da buy a
ticket n' sit n' the pasture and we'd keep the farm!
...bsrp
...jlk
>There's no discernable difference
...bsrp
If your a whore I guess not
the old Philosopher
>>I don't want no whores gold wings...
>> want the funjumpers one,
>>
>
>>There's no discernable difference
>...bsrp
>
>If your a whore I guess not
Oh yeah - guy makes X number of jumps doing whatever and sends off for
the wings and gets them. Cool.
Another guy makes X number of jumps doing whatever (including some
jumps where some sort of compensation was involved) sends off for the
wings and gets them. Cool.
Wings are for jumps. Not jump A or jump B (or any other politically
correct designation describing or validating the jump to some lone
pinhead). Jump's a jump. You go up and flail, it's a jump. Turn
some hot points, a jump. Freefly, crewfun, bandit someone
unsuspecting into their first 8way star, Horny gorilla - all jumps.
Even taking a student up or a tandem or someone on a SkyU, or aiming a
camera - jumps to me. Only politically correct morons would try to
conclude otherwise and only those same politically correct morons
would worry about it, try to change the subject because they don't
agree with the argument's conclusion, or even imagine someone falling
from the sky, out of an aircraft, with a parachute, solely because
that person may not be jumping in a fashion which that politically
correct moron deems as not rightous (I.E - in a fashion the
politically correct moron was never able to accomplish himself) could
ever imagine that such activity did not somehow constitute a jump.
Guess I'll send off for all the wings I got coming afterall...and ya
know? I'll bet they'll count all my jumps - not just the ones you've
deemed politically correct.
So, tough tittie. You ain't making any jumps anyway. Real,
politically correct, or otherwise.
...bsrp
...jlk
>There's no discernable difference
>If your a whore I guess not
>Guess I'll send off for all the wings I got >coming afterall
they artta hang a bar on them like the old PCA wings...ya know the ones with
the tab that said master, intermediate etc?
Only put on there WHORE, my jumps were paid for by other people! You momma's
boys bought some bad habits to the sport! ;)P
the old Philosopher
>>I don't want no whores gold wings...
>>want the funjumpers one,
>
>>There's no discernable difference
>
>>If your a whore I guess not
>
>>Guess I'll send off for all the wings I got >coming afterall
>
>they artta hang a bar on them like the old PCA wings...ya know the ones with
>the tab that said master, intermediate etc?
Ah, the good old days where high fashion revolved around the trappings
of affluence.
>Only put on there WHORE, my jumps were paid for by other people!
Whether they were or weren't is beside the point - but in those cases
where an agreed upon service was provided in the process - they were
still jumps. Hell, by your standards the only jumps are the ones
where there's video because it's a RULE, otherwise - they didn't
happen.
>You momma's
>boys bought some bad habits to the sport!
Oh, yeah - it was all free with no service for compensation back in
the short period when you jumped. Yep - and your JM's did it all for
free and the dz said, keep your money and go on up. Rhetorical
bullshit.
...bsrp
...jlk
I say we nominate Snuffy for an honorary posthumous award at the very
next USPA meeting, and make this "official"! ---What you all say?
;^)
>I say we nominate Snuffy for an honorary posthumous award
he aint dead yet.
Maybe USPA and the Darwin Award folks can get together and create some
sort of "Honorable Mention" Category - you know, an award for not
specifically taking one's self out of the gene pool but not for a
substantial lack of trying.
...bsrp
...jlk
>heh if I keep milking this I'll git gold >wings before its over o~;->
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>I'm sure that was one of the (few) >thoughts that crossed your mind as
>> >>you were going up on your final jump.
>> >
>> >it was but I knew a 36 way Falcon was out
>>
>> Shoulda thought about it while hanging the harness. Timing is
>> everything.
>>
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk
>
>I say we nominate Snuffy for an honorary posthumous award at the very
>next USPA meeting, and make this "official"! ---What you all say?
>;^)
>
Ain't ded yet peckerwood ;)P
the old Philosopher
>There's no discernable difference
>If your a whore I guess not
>
>Ah, the good old days where high fashion revolved around the trappings
>of affluence.
>
>>Only put on there WHORE, my jumps were paid for by other people!
>
correct
>an agreed upon service was provided in the process -
sounds like prostitution to me
> they were
>still jumps.
>pandering You momma's
>boys bought some bad habits to the >sport!
>Oh, yeah - it was all free with no service >for compensation back in
>the short period when you jumped.
yeah after you got off student status all it cost you was a jump ticket.
>and your JM's did it all for free
I think Art told me once he got $5 for each student he put out until they were
signed off...after ya got off student status like most of the people around a
dz then he wud jump with ya for free.
>and the dz said, keep your money and >go on up.
S/L was a flat price...I'm sure AFF was
also, before greed overcame the AFF people that is...durning that particular
time frame jump tickets were 8 or 9 bucks
or lower on the 206, depending on the Altitude...Otter tickets $12.50 tp 13/5
unless you brought block tickets then it was $10. First loads were practically
free
Gear rental cost more than a jump ticket
14 to 18 dollars....Video on orginized novice big way jumps? a buck added to
the price of a jump ticket to pay for the video geeks lift ticket. Most video
types were DZ staff and they went for it because it was better than cutting
grass or picking up trash...not every tom dick and harry was walking around
with video equipment panhandling back then...people like Russ Web and Ted
Slaughter did it for pratice & love of the art...bring a blank tape to dub off
their master hell they were on the jump anyway...you little city hussy give
those sheep their money back ;-/
the old Philosopher
Okay - only the brain gets the award.
...bsrp
...jlk
>By his own admission, his brain is half dead and I believe it.
>
gitting carried away there punks, only the motor strips to the left side were
dammaged.... I'm still sharp as a tack as you can tell by fukking with me o~;->
the old Philosopher
>
>dammaged.... I'm still sharp as a tack as you can tell by fukking with me
fucking with you should be labled child abuse.
>Jim D-10154
heh glad I can still bother you without talking directly to you.....say do you
& Chuck read all my rambling? And I thought Rinky dink and Jerry Jerk off were
dumb...
Dumb must come in pairs like shoes
WHO'S THE MAN?
sucker o~;->
the old Philosopher
>>I don't want no whores gold wings...
>>want the funjumpers one,
>
>>There's no discernable difference
>
>>If your a whore I guess not
>>
>
>>Ah, the good old days where high fashion revolved around the trappings
>>of affluence.
>>
>>>Only put on there WHORE, my jumps were paid for by other people!
>>
>
>correct
And another cut n' paste this time permitting you to agree with
yourself - whatsamatter - you're the only one who will?
>
>>an agreed upon service was provided in the process -
>sounds like prostitution to me
>
>
>> they were
>>still jumps.
>
>>pandering You momma's
>>boys bought some bad habits to the >sport!
>
>>Oh, yeah - it was all free with no service >for compensation back in
>>the short period when you jumped.
>
>yeah after you got off student status all it cost you was a jump ticket.
And they were still jumps, nonetheless and, for that matter, often
times (when it comes to fun jumps), a ticket might be all I require
or, depending on the nature of the dive and how much fun or
interesting it might be, I'll grab the ticket myself and I don't buy
into this money for dub crap - if I got it on vid, anyone can have a
dub.
>
>>and your JM's did it all for free
>
>I think Art told me once he got $5 for each student he put out until they were
>signed off...
Yeah, well - that was probably the going rate. Big deal.
>after ya got off student status like most of the people around a
>dz then he wud jump with ya for free.
Yeah, and that's the way it is today.
>
>>and the dz said, keep your money and >go on up.
And that not uncommon as well.
>
>S/L was a flat price...I'm sure AFF was
>also,
Yeah, well - there are flat prices out there, even discounts on
package deals.
>before greed overcame the AFF people that is...
Bullcrap - class costs something, one or two jm's costs something,
the lift ticket costs something and that carries across any program
where class and lift tickets are involved.
>durning that particular
>time frame jump tickets were 8 or 9 bucks
>or lower on the 206, depending on the Altitude...Otter tickets $12.50 tp 13/5
>unless you brought block tickets then it was $10.
Yeah, well - I expect they were cheaper at other times preceeding that
- you got overcharged.
>First loads were practically
>free
And specials like that are a regular fixture as well. Manifest by a
certain time and receive your jumps for less or buy a bunch of tickets
at once at a discount or make a certain number of jumps in a day and
get an extra ticket or pay a certain amount and jump all you can or
show up on a certain day and get a discount - all of this is nothing
new, and I'm not jut talking boogies - talking regular day to day
operations, and it's certainly nothing that has been discontinued.
>Gear rental cost more than a jump ticket
>14 to 18 dollars....
I've borrowed dz gear and was there a rental fee? Uh uh. Usually you
just have to ask and get permission. After I got off student status
at Beumont but before I bought my first set of gear, normally I'd pay
the gear rental once for one jump at the beginning of the day ($20 at
the little Cessna dz in the mid 90's) and if it wasn't too busy and
they didn't need the rig, I had that rig all day and if I made 1 jump
- $20. If I made 5 jumps - still $20 - for the day, not per jump. Of
course, if you had ever spent a day at a dz you'd know all this but
your imagination is far more comforting for you than reality.
>Video on orginized novice big way jumps? a buck added to
>the price of a jump ticket to pay for the video geeks lift ticket.
Yeah, and usually I'll just get the ticket if it looks like it's gonna
be unique or spectacular or if not, just the ticket get covered.
>Most video
>types were DZ staff and they went for it because it was better than cutting
>grass or picking up trash...
Well how about that - at a dz where pretty much the entire staff is
there only part-time, I too am on staff. I don't get a salary,
there's not a demand that I be at the dz at a certain time on a
certain date - all they ask is that if things are busy and I happen to
be there, to go up and help out as I feel like it - and to do a good
job. If I were doing skydiving vid for a living, it would be the same
gig with the same expectations though I'm sure I'd shoot a lot more
tandems and AFF than I normally do.
>not every tom dick and harry was walking around
>with video equipment panhandling back then...
And neither is every tom dick and harry walking around
with video equipment panhandling now today. It's that comforting
fantasy again - the bitter pill of having blundered yourself out of
the sport is so much easier to force down if you imagine that it's all
gone to hell since you've left so, no big loss. Well, sorry, I know
it sucks - but the way you imagine it is, is not the way it is. Get
to a dz but only if you can handle the truth which, as has often been
clearly aparent here, you can't.
>people like Russ Web and Ted
>Slaughter did it for pratice & love of the art...
Sure, sure - and you're saying they never got paid for their services
and that I don't do it for the practice and the love of the art?
>bring a blank tape to dub off
>their master hell they were on the jump anyway...
Sounds familiar - as a matter of fact, that's exactly what goes on.
You got the tape and I got the vid and you can have a dub, no charge,
no obligation for a tip, not even a demand for a beer though I might
ask if they have another if they're holding one and mine's dry.
That's just the way it is but reality is not for you - you're so much
happier thinking what you got spit out of is no big loss to you.
>you little city hussy give
>those sheep their money back
Why? They got what they wanted and paid what was requested and no
one's ever come back and demanded their money back. Screw that. You
get to a dropzone first and get a dose of reality instead of pandering
to false assumptions which make you feel better about yourself and
then we'll see what was paid, what was got, and who feels ripped off
and demands their money back. I dare you to ask anyone I've shot,
anyone who ever had to pay a penny on up for the vid they got - you
tell them they can get their money back if they got a problem but I'll
also make you a bet - I'll bet my camera, my rig, anything I own that
not a single one will suggest that I ripped them off, that they have
money coming back, that they didn't get what they paid for. I'll make
that bet - what will you put up? Not a thing, because you're afraid
I'm right and while your psyche has a hard time dealing with reality,
merely as I present it here in word, if you had to stare it in the
face it would crush you. So, go ahead - take my bet. Put up
something and so set the wager. Chickenshit pusswad. I dare ya!
...bsrp
...jlk
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
Hey Snuff, it sounds like you're saying that it's ok to be a whore as long
as you don't charge too much.
Sharp as tack by an overloaded Spanish Caravel with no keel in a light
breeze
...bsrp
...jlk
>I thought that you didn't have enough >flexability to performe self
>fellatio....anyone can be wrong I guess
>
>
Nah I went to boot camp in San Diego but it wuzzn't MCRD....thats a marine
trick
I eye wittnesed it while on hell island in the 5th week...our CC marched us
into the fence stood us at attention nose pressed thru the hurricane wire
facing MCRD's sand pits...the D.I.'s over there had the Marine boots bent over
so far, their heads were between their legs with noses resting in buttcrack, it
was something to behold I'm telling ya... We gave them 3 cheers! o~;->
the old Philosopher
yeah it had been raised from $3 before I started...inflation was rampant AFF
wuz running cost across the board up, $12 or $15 for an offside JM? Out of
sight, shit offside and main shudda been splitting 10 bucks if a SL/JM only got
$5 imho
>Hey Snuff, it sounds like you're saying >that it's ok to be a whore as long
>as you don't charge too much.
Must be the old sailor in me o~;)
the old Philosopher
> Hey fatboy.....I got the 6 hr FF wings although the 6 has a 3 in front of
>it.
> Yep Snuff, Jim's got more time in the air than you have in the plane
>
>
I don't care what you say kid, your not getting FAGGOT #1, its Jerrys number
;-*
the old Philosopher
>Yep Snuff, Jim's got more time in the air >than you have in the plane
>In defense of Snuffy, he's got more TOT (time on toilet) than anyone I know
>of that is still living. Chuck
Well that nullifys his claim I'm full of shit then...don't it?
the old Philosopher
>>In defense of Snuffy, he's got more TOT (time on toilet) than anyone I know
>>of that is still living. Chuck
>
>Well that nullifys his claim I'm full of shit then...don't it?
not if youre constipated
Walther responds...
Yes, and its the voluntary half. It's lucky for him that breathing is part
of the involuntary half!
Walther
>Were you the only one with a hard on >when you saw that site?
Well we were all sailors the whole company wuz standing to attention in more
than one way...The CC got pissed, he wuz trying to scare us by threating to
send us over there to the D.I.'s on the Marine side and we were lined up with
stiffys grinning like hell
Just didn't work so he had us doing the 16 count manual in close order ranks (I
still got a blade sight scar on my head) & marched us into walls the rest of
the day...didn't bother us atall, it was better than being a marine anyday of
the week ;-P
the old Philosopher
>>Subject: Re: Snuffies 6hr FF wings
>>From: "bigjim" big...@the-beach.net
>>Date: 12/4/03 11:30 PM Eastern Standard Time
>>Message-id: <vsvo1oh...@corp.supernews.com>
>
>> Hey fatboy.....I got the 6 hr FF wings although the 6 has a 3 in front of
>>it.
>
>> Yep Snuff, Jim's got more time in the air than you have in the plane
>
>In defense of Snuffy, he's got more TOT (time on toilet) than anyone I know of
>that is still living.
He was issued his DDTBwOE (Double Diamond Toilet Brush with Oak
Leaves) years ago and you know that old commercial of the guy in the
little boat floating around in your toilet? Guess who!!!.
...bsrp
...jlk
You seem to be the Artesan well of bullshit.
the old Philosopher
>I bet you couldn't keep your eyes to the >front, you undisciplined pervert
>
That Chief finally made a beliver out of us
I could stand like a rock & stare at a bulkhead for hours....didn't pay to make
eye contact, they cud see into your very soul, tell what you were thinking then
rabbit punch you without appearing to...spooky ;)P
the old Philosopher
The reason that I didn't know you years ago is because I hung out at
dropzones. I would have liked to see your last jump though. Something that I
could tell my students about.
>>I think Art told me once he got $5 for each student he put out until
>>>they were signed off...
>>>
>>> Yeah, well - that was probably the >>going rate. Big deal.
>
>yeah it had been raised from $3 before I started...inflation was rampant AFF
>wuz running cost across the board up,
No, inflation if anything was. Costs go up, costs get spread - that
or items get cut back.
>$12 or $15 for an offside JM? Out of
>sight, shit offside and main shudda been splitting 10 bucks if a SL/JM only got
>$5 imho
Greedy ass SL/JM's wouldn't do it for tht anymore - seems everyone was
running costs up the board.
>
>>Hey Snuff, it sounds like you're saying >that it's ok to be a whore as long
>>as you don't charge too much.
>
>Must be the old sailor in me
You got an old sailor in you? What's your new paramour's name?
...bsrp
...jlk
The jury's still out cause the shit's still coming out the wrong end.
...bsrp
...jlk
>>Subject: Re: Snuffies 6hr FF wings
>>From: Jerry K. sky...@pdq.net
>>Date: 12/4/03 10:02 PM Eastern Standard Time
>>Message-id: <n5tvsv4qu08kt8413...@4ax.com>
>
>>>In defense of Snuffy, he's got more TOT (time on toilet) than anyone I know
>>of
>>>that is still living.
>
>>He was issued his DDTBwOE (Double Diamond Toilet Brush with Oak
>>Leaves) years ago and you know that old commercial of the guy in the
>>little boat floating around in your toilet? Guess who!!!.
>
>>..bsrp
>
>That award must have come after his retirement as a SCUBA Diver for Roto
>Rooter...........he never could figure out how to get the oak leaves out of
>that tooth brush
He almost succeeded once while combing his back.
...bsrp
...jlk
We could call him Spindletop 'cept he ain't from Texas.
...bsrp
...jlk
No doubt it's still sure fire comedy at Beaumont.
...bsrp
...jlk
>The reason that I didn't know you years >ago is because I hung out at
>dropzones.
Just so happens so did I...lets see 10 years ago? I'da been at the old SPX
Leauge City drop zone, where were you in Podunk Idaho trying to learn to read
and write?
the old Philosopher
>> The reason that I didn't know you years >ago is because I hung out at
>> dropzones.
>
> Just so happens so did I...lets see 10 years ago? I'da been at the
> old SPX Leauge City drop zone, where were you in Podunk Idaho trying
> to learn to read and write?
>
>
> the old Philosopher
I was in Florida, but that's neither here nor there. Let's talk about the 10
years before that newbie.
Shut the fuck up Rick! Just because you have probably three to four
times the years in the sport than Jimmy ever had, just because you got
a lower D# than Jimmy, just because you got more airtime than Jimmy
has just riding in the airplane, just because you never lost altitude
awareness and ate a runway as a result, just because you didn't send
in for your D before you had even ungeared from your 200th jump for
the immediate boost in status like Jimmy did, just because you've
forgotten more about skydiving than he ever learned, and just because
you're still skydiving today and he isn't anymore doesn't mean Jimmy's
a highly stupid newbie or that if he had listened to experienced
people like you when he was skydiving he wouldn't have had the
reputation for being a dangerous idiot and possibly might well have
been able to return to skydiving on a regular basis!!!
Wait - yes it does. Nevermind.
Yeah, how about those ten years - sedate by outlaw 90's standards, eh?
...bsrp
...jlk