The Jerry K diddy or how to get on a load
the unknown flailer
got no grip...
got no skill...
hand me a camera helment HA HA HA
Jerry K.
Of course there's the case of runway pizza, Jinnie:
Culdn't get in when he jumped and can't now because he can't jump...
Couldn't get a grip when he jumped and can't now because he can't get
a grip..
Had no skill when he jumped but at least he had a sitsuit to do solos
in...
"Hand me a spatula" <actual quote from Jinnie's excellent adventure
with the runway> Nothing funny about it.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:56:38 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
>
> Of course there's the case of runway pizza, Jinnie:
>
>
>
> ...jlk
Got video proof of that Mr. no grip got to fly camera or they won't
let me on the formation? heh take up twiddly winks kid
Jerry K.
You got video proof of you getting in or taking a grip, mister had to
buy a sitsuit because they won't let me jump with them anymore and had
to buy a falcon because it's the student canopy of choice for AFF
operations?
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
>
>
> Of course there's the case of runway pizza, Jinnie:
>
> Culdn't get in when he jumped and can't now because he can't jump...
> Couldn't get a grip when he jumped and can't now because he can't get
> a grip..
> Had no skill when he jumped but at least he had a sitsuit to do solos
> in...
The sit suit was a instrument of terror more than anything else...I
could put it on and sky gods would get off the load....immagine if you
will, 260 pounds of gear and meat helicoptering down jumprun....no
control, no finesse- - Just a out of control Freight train. If you
were a lightweight, under 200 pound weakling as most sky gods were- - -
You decided staying on the ground was the better part of valor.....I
think they let me in on quite a few 20 ways just to keep me from
trying to sit fly. ;)
>
> "Hand me a spatula" <actual quote from Jinnie's excellent adventure
> with the runway
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
It was a valid bounce, no spatula needed just bring the meat wagon!
Few could have pulled that off and lived. Certainly any one that
spells as bad as you and never played High School football in the
1950's would have died 0~;->
Jerry K.
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Jul 16, 4:30 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:56:38 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>>
>> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>> >can't get in...
>> >got no grip...
>> >got no skill...
>>
>> >hand me a camera helmet HA HA HA
>>
>> Of course there's the case of runway pizza, Jinnie:
>>
>> Culdn't get in when he jumped and can't now because he can't jump...
>> Couldn't get a grip when he jumped and can't now because he can't get
>> a grip..
>
>
>> Had no skill when he jumped but at least he had a sitsuit to do solos
>> in...
>
>The sit suit was a instrument of terror more than anything else...
And the terror was inadvertant and only became described as an
"instrument," after the fact - in other words, "I meant to do that."
>I
>could put it on and sky gods would get off the load..
Only after you had gone up before in it, were too stupid to allow for
exit seperation between formations and too unaware where you were
heading as you went unstable and back to your belly and so on until
you put yourself under another formation. Skydiving has a term for
people who do that, Jinnie - it's either Novice Who Doesn't Know Any
Better or Dangerous Idiot Who Should." What happened after, Jinnie? A
bunch of "skygods" come on over and put their "fear on display" AKA
stepped on you for being a self-centered dickhead?
>..immagine if you
>will, 260 pounds of gear and meat helicoptering down jumprun.
Wooo - Jinnie could do a ~helicopter~ (in a sitsuit, mind you) - just
like that guy in "Dropzone" or one of those movies that came out right
about the time Jinnie started jumping. What's really telling here is
how stupid you were to take yourself down jumprun as opposed to being
smart and respectfull of other skydivers who were happy enough to let
you alone to do your sitsuit solos and helicopter ~perpendicular~ to
jumprun.
>...no
>control, no finesse- - Just a out of control Freight train.
There it is. Any small wonder people would get off loads you were on?
>If you
>were a lightweight, under 200 pound weakling as most sky gods were- - -
>You decided staying on the ground was the better part of valor.
Shit, if one had a clue, staying on the ground would be very wise,
given those circumstances. "260 pounds of gear and flab - Just a out
of control Freight train," size and mass of whoever you'd hit wouldn't
make a difference except for how much injury you'd also take in the
process.
>....I
>think they let me in on quite a few 20 ways just to keep me from
>trying to sit fly.
It certainly wasn't because of any past demonstrated rw skills. I've
seen video. You sucked.
>
>>
>> "Hand me a spatula" <actual quote from Jinnie's excellent adventure
>> with the runway
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk
>
>It was a valid bounce, no spatula needed just bring the meat wagon!
Keep telling yourself that, Runway Pizza. It was a "valid bounce" you
couldn't walk away from nor put behind you while making another
skydive - that's for sure. The reality is, it was an uncontrolled
crash terminating with your face munching a runway. A spatuala would
have at least gotten the greasier chunks of your face off of the
tarmac more easily and did they bring a band along with that
ambulance? You know - so they could play taps to the end of your
short and mediocre tenure in skydiving?
>Few could have pulled that off and lived.
Even fewer are so stupid to do it the way you did. You think you're
the only person to come off of some debilitating issue and get back in
the air? Cut the crap - you were under a perfectly working canopy you
weren't up to controlling. Out of control with the canopy flying you
rather than the other way around - you got lucky.
>Certainly any one that
>spells as bad as you and never played High School football in the
>1950's would have died
Ah, someone else shatters their tib fib and faceplants into tarmac and
it's mortal for sure but that sorta thing can't kill the snuffwad
<sarcasm, dummy> - just as long as an ambulance can get out to the
runway where he crashed and get his immobile ass to the hospital. Btw
- you misspelled ~imagine~ up above, dumbass.
...srp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:27:34 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
>
>
>
>
> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
> >On Jul 16, 4:30 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:56:38 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
> >> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
> >> >can't get in...
> >> >got no grip...
> >> >got no skill...
>
> >> >hand me a camera helmet HA HA HA
>
> >> Of course there's the case of runway pizza, Jinnie:
>
> >> Couldn't get a grip when he jumped and can't now because he can't get
> >> a grip..
>
> >> Had no skill when he jumped but at least he had a sitsuit to do solos
> >> in...
>
> >The sit suit was a instrument of terror more than anything else...
>
> And the terror was inadvertant and only became described as an
> "instrument," after the fact - in other words, "I meant to do that."
>
No you don't understand the concept-----I did it because it was fun
> people who do that, Jinnie - it's either Novice Who Doesn't Know Any
> Better or Dangerous Idiot
or crazy
>
> >..immagine if you
> >will, 260 pounds of gear and meat helicoptering down jump run.
>
>
Lucky and tough....I lived through 13 months in Vietnam...a easy sport
like skydiving wasn't going to kill me
>
> >Certainly any one that
> >spells as bad as you and never played High School football in the
> >1950's would have died
>
> Ah, someone else shatters their tib fib and faceplants into tarmac and
> it's mortal for sure but that sorta thing can't kill the snuffwad
Should have, as soon as the bones snapped I pitched head first into
the concrete reinforced foot of the runway where aircraft touch down
> <sarcasm, dummy> - just as long as an ambulance can get out to the
> runway where he crashed and get his immobile ass to the hospital.
Actually they picked me up in the hanger....It was a city maintained
airport, nobody was going to leave a body laying around on the runway
with Private planes trying to land......WHAT A RUSH-- I'm laying there
stunned & bleeding and this Cessna buzz's me...the fucker couldn't
land long, he or she needed the whole fricking runway....didn't they
know this was also being used as a DZ?
>Btw - you misspelled ~imagine~ up above, dumbass.
>
Yeah I hate for you to be alone....call it coaching if not teaching.
See I already have you using a dictionary----The G.I. Bill payed off
Bwaaaaahahahaha 0~;-*
the unknown flailer
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:27:34 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
>
>
>
>
> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
> >On Jul 16, 4:30 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:56:38 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
> >> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
> >> >can't get in...
> >> >got no grip...
> >> >got no skill...
>
> >> >hand me a camera helmet HA HA HA
>
> >> Of course there's the case of runway pizza, Jinnie:
>
> >> Couldn't get a grip when he jumped and can't now because he can't get
> >> a grip..
>
> >> Had no skill when he jumped but at least he had a sitsuit to do solos
> >> in...
>
> >The sit suit was a instrument of terror more than anything else...
>
> And the terror was inadvertant and only became described as an
> "instrument," after the fact - in other words, "I meant to do that."
>
> >I could put it on and sky gods would get off the load..
>
> Only after you had gone up before in it, were too stupid to allow for
> exit seperation between formations
Well I tell you kid, the normal 5 count wasn't going to cut
it...specially seeing
Nancy boys need a mile of lateral clearance to feel safe....shit my
fall rate was higher, they should have sucked it up and not been so
sissy. Shit I used the thing for RW in the summer because it was
lighter and cooler.....Their mental state was such that as soon as the
sit suit came out of my gear bag they shit their panties
What's really telling here is
> how stupid you were to take yourself down jumprun as opposed to being
> smart and respectfull of other skydivers
Respectful? Skydivers? HAHAHAHAHAHA Them...............Them
who were happy enough to let
> you alone to do your sitsuit solos and helicopter ~perpendicular~ to
> jumprun.
The thing about helicoptering is you generally have no directional
control...At the speed I moved its a wonder I didn't end up in the
next county...They should have let me go out then went around but I
had them hypnotized such was my power over their emotions
>
> >...no
> >control, no finesse- - Just a out of control Freight train.
>
> There it is. Any small wonder people would get off loads you were on?
>
> >If you
> >were a lightweight, under 200 pound weakling as most sky gods were- - -
> >You decided staying on the ground was the better part of valor.
>
> Shit, if one had a clue, staying on the ground would be very wise,
> given those circumstances. "260 pounds of gear and flab - Just a out
> of control Freight train," size and mass of whoever you'd hit wouldn't
> make a difference except for how much injury you'd also take in the
> process.
>
> >....I
> >think they let me in on quite a few 20 ways just to keep me from
> >trying to sit fly.
>
>
>you sucked
>
>
> ...srp
> ...jlk- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
You feel that way mainly because you were too far behind and not good
enough to jump in my league and were therefore shut out sissy boy. ;)P
Jerry K.
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Jul 16, 11:07 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:27:34 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>> >On Jul 16, 4:30 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:56:38 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>>
>> >> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>> >> >can't get in...
>> >> >got no grip...
>> >> >got no skill...
>>
>> >> >hand me a camera helmet HA HA HA
>>
>> >> Of course there's the case of runway pizza, Jinnie:
>>
>> >> Couldn't get in when he jumped and can't now because he can't jump...
>> >> Couldn't get a grip when he jumped and can't now because he can't get
>> >> a grip..
>>
>> >> Had no skill when he jumped but at least he had a sitsuit to do solos
>> >> in...
>>
>> >The sit suit was a instrument of terror more than anything else...
>>
>> And the terror was inadvertant and only became described as an
>> "instrument," after the fact - in other words, "I meant to do that."
>>
>
>No you don't understand the concept-----I did it because it was fun
You heard it hear folks - for Jinnie, ~terror~ is fun. No respect for
fellow skydivers. No respect for physics. No respect for the
dropzone. No respect for himself. Jinne would go out and be a
self-described "instrument of terror" on a skydive and tough luck and
to hell with anyone unfortunate enough to get in his self described
"no control, no finesse- - Just a out of control Freight train" way.
What a piece of shit.
>
>> people who do that, Jinnie - it's either Novice Who Doesn't Know Any
>> Better or Dangerous Idiot
>
> or crazy
or by any other name, a Dangerous Idiot. Jinnie just has to typify
his behaviour as "crazy" because he thinks it will somehow set him
apart - another pretense to drape himself with. Poser.
Lots of people "lived through 13 months in Vietnam" and longer, poser.
A tibfib punctuated with a faceplant wouldn't kill most people but
just the same, "lucky and tough" or not - you were unquestionably a
moron for putting yourself under a perfectly working canopy with no
means to control. Moron.
>> >Certainly any one that
>> >spells as bad as you and never played High School football in the
>> >1950's would have died
>>
>> Ah, someone else shatters their tib fib and faceplants into tarmac and
>> it's mortal for sure but that sorta thing can't kill the snuffwad
>
>Should have, as soon as the bones snapped I pitched head first into
>the concrete reinforced foot of the runway where aircraft touch down
Wearing a fullface helmet. A helmet I've worn and jumped - and that
always makes me laugh. The last helmet you jumped in was definitely
worn by two other people in the previous year and a half - Art and me.
Do you suppose that if someone else had landed the way you did in a
similar helmet it would have killed them?
>
>> <sarcasm, dummy> - just as long as an ambulance can get out to the
>> runway where he crashed and get his immobile ass to the hospital.
>
>Actually they picked me up in the hanger....It was a city maintained
>airport, nobody was going to leave a body laying around on the runway
>with Private planes trying to land......WHAT A RUSH-- I'm laying there
>stunned & bleeding and this Cessna buzz's me...the fucker couldn't
>land long, he or she needed the whole fricking runway....didn't they
>know this was also being used as a DZ?
Actually, at that point in time the runway was being used as a first
aid station with one moron only at the head of a very short triage
line. So, you crash your dumb ass and are bleeding on the runway and
all you can focus on is how much of a fucker someone was for landing
their plane while you were lying there on their runway? Makes sense -
all about you. You fuck up and others have to alter their lives to
accomodate you. Jackass.
>
>>Btw - you misspelled ~imagine~ up above, dumbass.
>>
>
>Yeah I hate for you to be alone....call it coaching if not teaching.
Ah, so Jinnie misspells in the same post he is using the "you
misspelled" chain yank and when he gets busted on this he once again
backpeddles to the old, "I meant to do that," copout. Dumbass.
>See I already have you using a dictionary----The G.I. Bill payed off
Btw, you misspell a lot of shit, Jinnie but you're too dense to notice
it - even when you're trying to yank someone else's chain on the very
same thing on the very same post. Moron.
...bsrp
...jlk
Mike Spurgeon
>
>> Btw - you misspelled ~imagine~ up above, dumbass.
He's been a creative and careless speller as long as he's been here.
Big fucking deal.
Dan Rossi said it best regarding his spelling.
You don't have a clue...
Jerry K.
Ah, so it was someone else's fault for when you chose to exit.
Personal responsibility? They name ain't Jinnie.
>..specially seeing
>Nancy boys need a mile of lateral clearance to feel safe.
Seems they might have needed that lateral clearance so to lessen the
possibility of you piling into them like an "out of control freight
train."
>...shit my
>fall rate was higher, they should have sucked it up and not been so
>sissy.
No, what should have happened is you suck it up and give a decent
amount of exit seperation tailored for your skydive and the people out
ahead of you or sucked it up and called a go around for yourself. That
is what you should have done. Not blame your own screwup on others
like a self-centered dickhead but hey, you are a self-centered
dickhead so none of this is at all surprising.
>Shit I used the thing for RW in the summer because it was
>lighter and cooler.....Their mental state was such that as soon as the
>sit suit came out of my gear bag they shit their panties
Which is just another way of saying that when you pulled it out of
your gear bag, memories of you screwing up and blaming everyone but
yourself surfaced and understandably, you caught another ration of
shit for being a self-centered dickhead.
>
> �What's really telling here is
>> how stupid you were to take yourself down jumprun as opposed to being
>> smart and respectfull of other skydivers
>
>Respectful? Skydivers? HAHAHAHAHAHA Them...............Them
Of course, what's telling here is the Them Them is actually a mark of
respect and only posers who don't understand this truth use it as a
way to express disrepsect. Guess you've never been to a skydiver's
funeral, have you Jinnie? You were a novice when you skydived and
remain a novice to this day. Even your canopy was a novice design and
you didn't skydive long enough for it to even need a new line set.
>
>
>
>who were happy enough to let
>> you alone to do your sitsuit solos and helicopter ~perpendicular~ to
>> jumprun.
>
>The thing about helicoptering is you generally have no directional
>control.
If you don't know what you're doing, dumbass. If you knew what you
were doing you'd 1) track five to ten seconds perpendicular to
jumprun as flat as you could and then punch into the helicopter, and
2) you also get out as near to last as possible if you're not going to
be on your belly for the bulk of the dive. You really are a novice.
>..At the speed I moved its a wonder I didn't end up in the
>next county.
"Speed you moved..." cut the crap. You were a flailing out of
control meat-missle who in all liklihood was just corkscrewing in
oblong circles.
>..They should have let me go out then went around
"Oh, they should have let you" It was ~their~ fault. <sarcasm,
dummy> You had no control on when you were going to exit. What you
do, scream for your mommie?
>but I
>had them hypnotized such was my power over their emotions
So, they "should have" let you do whatever but they didn't so it's
their fault while at the same time you had them "hypnotized." Explain
how if you had them "hypnotized," they still wouldn't let you do what
you wanted to do as in, "They should have let me go out then went
around?" You on crack, Jinnie? That your problem? Can't recognize
simple logic to the point to where on the one hand you admit they
"should have" let you do whatever and at the same time brag you had
them "hypnotized?" Just pathetic, Jinnie.
>>
>> >...no
>> >control, no finesse- - Just a out of control Freight train.
>>
>> There it is. �Any small wonder people would get off loads you were on?
>>
>> >If you
>> >were a lightweight, under 200 pound weakling as most sky gods were- - -
>> >You decided staying on the ground was the better part of valor.
>>
>> Shit, if one had a clue, staying on the ground would be very wise,
>> given those circumstances. �"260 pounds of gear and flab - Just a out
>> of control Freight train," size and mass of whoever you'd hit wouldn't
>> make a difference except for how much injury you'd also take in the
>> process.
>>
>> >....I
>> >think they let me in on quite a few 20 ways just to keep me from
>> >trying to sit fly.
>>
>>
>>you sucked
>>
>>
>> ...srp
>> ...jlk- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>You feel that way mainly because you were too far behind
"Too far behind?" How long did you skydive and how many jumps you
make before you crashed your dumb ass into the hospital and out of
skydiving for good, junior?
>and not good
>enough to jump in my league and were therefore shut out sissy boy.
Keeping in mind that your "league" was a league reserved for idiots
who could only make a few hundred jumps and convince other skydivers
that they had no interest in jumping with you by the time it was all
over - which came soon. Yeah, I certainly wasn't "good enough" to
jump in your "league," dummy, but at least I still get to skydive with
my friends and that's good enough for me.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Well a lot of the mis spelling was when my brain was trying to put
itself back together after the stroke, some is vernacular to piss the
inexperienced off.....the rest is pure brilliance and of course some
of it is Jerry's spelling in quotes. I decided a long time ago I
wasn't correcting his spelling.....just pointing out his short
comings....Hoping any local novice reading our rambling would be
forced to ask. Do I want anybody that sloppy on details shooting video
for me unless its a freebie? heh heh.......
the unknown flailer
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:06:35 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
>
>
>
>
Seems they did or you wouldn't be crying about it. They were under a
lot of social pressure not to interfear. I was well liked despite
being out of step and maybe because of it
"They should have let me go out then went
> around?" You on crack, Jinnie? That your problem? Can't recognize
> simple logic to the point to where on the one hand you admit they
> "should have" let you do whatever and at the same time brag you had
> them "hypnotized?" Just pathetic, Jinnie.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> >...no
> >> >control, no finesse- - Just a out of control Freight train.
>
> >> There it is. �Any small wonder people would get off loads you were on?
>
> >> >If you
> >> >were a lightweight, under 200 pound weakling as most sky gods were- - -
> >> >You decided staying on the ground was the better part of valor.
>
> >> Shit, if one had a clue, staying on the ground would be very wise,
> >> given those circumstances. �"260 pounds of gear and flab - Just a out
> >> of control Freight train," size and mass of whoever you'd hit wouldn't
> >> make a difference except for how much injury you'd also take in the
> >> process.
>
> >> >....I
> >> >think they let me in on quite a few 20 ways just to keep me from
> >> >trying to sit fly.
>
> >>you sucked
>
> >> ...srp
> >> ...jlk- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >You feel that way mainly because you were too far behind
>
> >and not good
> >enough to jump in my league and were therefore shut out sissy boy.
>
> Keeping in mind that your "league" was a league reserved for idiots
> who could only make a few hundred jumps and convince other skydivers
> that they had no interest in jumping with you by the time it was all
> over - which came soon. Yeah, I certainly wasn't "good enough" to
> jump in your "league," dummy, but at least I still get to skydive with
> my friends and that's good enough for me.
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Don't forget you do it for the money.....I did it for fun....You fell
behind because you started 4 or 5 years after me then waited around
figuring a way to scam money out of it----You will never be in my
class DZ hustler ;-*
Jerry K.
wrote:
And that, Mike, is a perfect example of someone, in this case you,
exercising his right to be an apologist - not that that's a bad thing
- just is what it is. So, Mike - the next time Jinnie slips into his
little spell-nazi meter maid outfit and works the "can't spell" chain
yank, then I suppose the obvious response to such a lame gambit of his
is to remind him he doesn't have a clue and lay on the sarcasm a'la
big fucking deal? For myself, I've over time completely ignored his
creative and careless spelling except when he's been critical of my
own creative and careless spelling or of others - often times while
being creative and careless himself with his spelling in that very
same post. The irony is remarkably stark but I agree, big fucking
deal - but it's a big fucking deal apparently to the dipstick, isn't
it - otherwise, why would he bring up spelling in the first place?
Hence, the term spell-nazi which in my book regarding Jinnie means
someone who will prostrate himself down to the level of finding fault
with something so inconsequential as how someone spells on the usenet
as a means of either a chain yank or to otherwise divert attention
from his own demonstrated mistakes, faults, or failings. This is a
rhetorical bet, Mike, so don't feel you have to take it but if you do,
fine by me - how much you wanna bet I could locate, say, ten instances
where Jinnie is either working a chain yank or otherwise being
critical of someone's spelling while at the same time, in the majority
of those posts it is determined that the dipstick was being creative
or careless with his own spelling? Like you, Mike, I don't give a
shit about spelling but hypocrisy and rank stupidity made in public
beg for public comment - and so I do, as does anyone who feels like it
- even you - whenever and whatever they want. And that's how it
should be, eh?
Best Regards and Blue Skies,
Jerry
the unknown flailer
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:23:33 -0700, Mike Spurgeon <m...@spurgeon.net>
> wrote:
>
> >the unknown flailer wrote:
>
> >>> Btw - you misspelled ~imagine~ up above, dumbass.
>
> >He's been a creative and careless speller as long as he's been here.
>
> >Big fucking deal.
>
> >Dan Rossi said it best regarding his spelling.
>
> >You don't have a clue...
>
> And that, Mike, is a perfect example of someone, in this case you,
> exercising his right to be an apologist - not that that's a bad thing
> - just is what it is. So, Mike - the next time Jinnie slips into his
> little spell-nazi meter maid outfit and works the "can't spell" chain
> yank,
>
> Jerry
Not only that--when I really crank down on your dumb butt, you reply
with thousand word defensive essays like some emotional little
girl....At least pay the courtesy of spelling right-----You are going
to burn up a replier's spell checker some day...My attempt at
vernacular eat up Rossi's speech processor I'm thinking. He got a
laugh out of it for awhile....hadn't seen or heard of him on here for
a while...Maybe he grew up-- --BTW you apply for a Visa to go European
yet? The euro is super strong so I look for skydiving to remain alive
there long after you little parasites have killed it off here, there
will be pockets of it here after the USPA dies off of
course.....Mainly places providing Tandems outside the GM
system,,,,maybe you should be nicer to the Lodi kid if you don't want
to immigrate to France to work in the sport. And I know you don't, not
only is there a learn the language thing ----You will be competing
with some hot shit French cameramen. BUT on the plus side-----The
French Government has a history of immediately surrendering at the out
break of any war...I also think they are willing to pay terrorists off
to prevent trouble...So you won't have to fight, just play politics
and give blow jobs heh heh....Yes you might make a great Frenchman
Jerry thats not much different than what you do here is it?---GO FOR
IT 0~;)P
Jerry K.
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Jul 17, 12:58 am, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:06:35 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>> >On Jul 16, 11:07?pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:27:34 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>>
>> >> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>> > ?What's really telling here is
Seems they didn't as you said, "They should have let me go out then
went around," while you were blaming them for you not giving enough
exit seperation, moron.
>They were under a
>lot of social pressure not to interfear.
Sounds to me that they were able to withstand that "lot of social
pressure," and indeed "intefear(ed)," as you said that "should have
let (you) go out then went around," indicating that they did not -
that they "interfear(ed)" resulting in (sou say) you not giving a
decent amount of time for exit seperation resulting in you flailing
(you say) "like an out of control freight train" near enough for you
to catch shit over it whenever you got your sitsuit out. Moron.
>I was well liked despite
>being out of step and maybe because of it
You were liked even more the further away you were - such is the
appreciation for an unrepentant dangerous idiot with affirmation
issues and a chip on his shoulder -------------> you.
>
>
>
> "They should have let me go out then went
>> around?" You on crack, Jinnie? That your problem? Can't recognize
>> simple logic to the point to where on the one hand you admit they
>> "should have" let you do whatever and at the same time brag you had
>> them "hypnotized?" Just pathetic, Jinnie.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >> >...no
>> >> >control, no finesse- - Just a out of control Freight train.
>>
>> >> There it is. ?Any small wonder people would get off loads you were on?
>>
>> >> >If you
>> >> >were a lightweight, under 200 pound weakling as most sky gods were- - -
>> >> >You decided staying on the ground was the better part of valor.
>>
>> >> Shit, if one had a clue, staying on the ground would be very wise,
>> >> given those circumstances. ?"260 pounds of gear and flab - Just a out
>> >> of control Freight train," size and mass of whoever you'd hit wouldn't
>> >> make a difference except for how much injury you'd also take in the
>> >> process.
>>
>> >> >....I
>> >> >think they let me in on quite a few 20 ways just to keep me from
>> >> >trying to sit fly.
>>
>> >>you sucked
>>
>> >> ...srp
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>>
>> >You feel that way mainly because you were too far behind
>>
>> >and not good
>> >enough to jump in my league and were therefore shut out sissy boy.
>>
>> Keeping in mind that your "league" was a league reserved for idiots
>> who could only make a few hundred jumps and convince other skydivers
>> that they had no interest in jumping with you by the time it was all
>> over - which came soon. Yeah, I certainly wasn't "good enough" to
>> jump in your "league," dummy, but at least I still get to skydive with
>> my friends and that's good enough for me.
>>
>> ...bsrp
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>
>Don't forget you do it for the money.....I did it for fun..
No, you did it for ego - just another ledge for you to strike a pose.
>..You fell
>behind because you started 4 or 5 years after me
Well, let's see here - you managed to eke out 300 jumps in "4 or 5"
years while I managed to eke out around 3500 in coming up on the
beginning of my 14th year. Within "4 or 5" years after I started I
had roughly four times the number of jumps you ever made, ever, and an
equal amount years in skydiving and now, eight or so years later, you
still have "4 or 5" years in skydiving and 300 jumps - but you do have
more time away from the sport than you had when you were actually in.
Who fell behind, dumbass? We can work this particular pissing contest
all you want, dipstick, but it's pretty pathetic to suggest that
someone still skydiving long after you crashed your dumb ass out of
skydiving somehow "fell behind." But, I know you're desperate and not
really thinking things through here - it's no surprise, really.
>then waited around
>figuring a way to scam money out of it-
Didn't have to wait around, Jinnie - all I had to do was make a
shitload of jumps practicing and getting more consistant than
unconsistant (a lot more) and one-two-three, not only am I funjumping
but I'm having to turn down skydives, paid ones too, because there's
so much need out there for consistant camera flyers.
>---You will never be in my
>class DZ hustler
Works for me, runway pizza. Your "class" (not that it ever had any)
couldn't think things through and cope with skydiving more than a few
years and a few hundred jumps whereas I count myself lucky to be able
to make skydives with my friends whenever we want to - and that's more
than good enough for me, loser.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:17:20 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
>
>
>
>
> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
> >On Jul 17, 12:58 am, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:06:35 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
> >> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
> >> >On Jul 16, 11:07?pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:27:34 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
> >> >> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
> >> >> >On Jul 16, 4:30?pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:56:38 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
> >> >> >> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >can't get in...
> >> >> >> >got no grip...
> >> >> >> >got no skill...
>
> >> >> >> >hand me a camera helmet HA HA HA
>
> >> >> >> Of course there's the case of runway pizza, Jinnie:
>
>
> >> >> >> in...
>
> >> >> >The sit suit was a instrument of terror more than anything else...
>
> >> >> And the terror was inadvertant and only became described as an
> >> >> "instrument," after the fact - in other words, "I meant to do that."
>
> >> >> >I could put it on and sky gods would get off the load..
>
> >> >> Only after you had gone up before in it, were too stupid to allow for
> >> >> exit seperation between formations
>
> >> >Well I tell you kid, the normal 5 count wasn't going to cut
> >> >it.
>
> >> Ah, so it was someone else's fault for when you chose to exit.
> ...bsrp
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Yeah because, there was a solution to their delimia....going out on
the same jump run I was sitting on was their choice and they cried
about it? I'd say they were responsible....Going out the door is a
personal choice, no one is forcing you to do it....Thats another
service I provided "Giving the faint of heart something to whine
about.......AFTER THE FACT 0~;)P
Jerry K.
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Jul 17, 3:53 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:23:33 -0700, Mike Spurgeon <m...@spurgeon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >the unknown flailer wrote:
>>
>> >>> Btw - you misspelled ~imagine~ up above, dumbass.
>>
>> >He's been a creative and careless speller as long as he's been here.
>>
>> >Big fucking deal.
>>
>> >Dan Rossi said it best regarding his spelling.
>>
>> >You don't have a clue...
>>
>> And that, Mike, is a perfect example of someone, in this case you,
>> exercising his right to be an apologist - not that that's a bad thing
>> - just is what it is. So, Mike - the next time Jinnie slips into his
>> little spell-nazi meter maid outfit and works the "can't spell" chain
>> yank,
>> Best Regards and Blue Skies,
>>
>> Jerry
>
>
>Not only that--when I really crank down on your dumb butt, you reply
>with thousand word defensive essays like some emotional little
>girl.
No, I point by point deconstruct your line of watery shit leaving you
no loophole or semantic ambiguity to prostrate yourself down to and
through - plus a little abuse for sport.
>...At least pay the courtesy of spelling right--
Like you, Jinnie - every time I mistype something, it is purely just a
matter of being creative and you pulling the spell-nazi schtickt is
nothing more than a transparent attempt at a change of subject or
otherwise diversion from the present hammering you are taking. Plain
as day, moron.
>---You are going
>to burn up a replier's spell checker some day.
If they were literate or weren't so desperate to change the subject
from their own failures they wouldn't need a spell checker, let alone
raise the issue of spelling on the usenet as somehow relevant,
dumbass.
>..My attempt at
>vernacular eat up Rossi's speech processor I'm thinking. He got a
>laugh out of it for awhile....hadn't seen or heard of him on here for
>a while...Maybe he grew up--
Or bored with the concept of a poser using spelling as plumage for a
made up personna on the usenet.
> --BTW you apply for a Visa to go European
>yet? The euro is super strong so I look for skydiving to remain alive
>there long after you little parasites have killed it off here, there
>will be pockets of it here after the USPA dies off of
>course.....Mainly places providing Tandems outside the GM
>system,
Heheheh - Jinnie's fantasy journey into his own Magical KingDumb rears
it's smelly head. Ya know, Jinnie - many european skydivers still
come to the United States to train and to vacation. I've jumped
overseas - you haven't. It's far less hassle and less for lift
tickets here - and europeans agree.
>,,,maybe you should be nicer to the Lodi kid if you don't want
>to immigrate to France to work in the sport.
Who says I wasn't being "nice" to Mike, Jinnie? Maybe you should pull
your head out of your ass, Jinnie and find out what you're trying to
talk about before you try to talk about it.
>nd I know you don't, not
>only is there a learn the language thing ----You will be competing
>with some hot shit French cameramen.
Heh - a european national team was recruiting me a few years ago,
Jinnie and then, if I had accepted, when we were at the World Meet, I
would have been competing against the French. Of course, you can't
imagine what I'm talking about here as you have one competition jump
ever - at a little scrambles meet.
>UT on the plus side-----The
>French Government has a history of immediately surrendering at the out
>break of any war.
Caldiero. Austerlitz. Gravelotte. Verdun. You're an idiot.
>..I also think they are willing to pay terrorists off
>to prevent trouble.
Said the jackass who admitted he enjoyed "terrorizing."
>..So you won't have to fight, just play politics
>and give blow jobs heh heh.
Giving blowjobs may have worked for you, Jinnie - but I'm not in that
league of yours - and wouldn't want to be.
>...Yes you might make a great Frenchman
How do you feel about Lafayette?
>Jerry thats not much different than what you do here is it?---GO FOR
>IT
No, what I do here is essentially slapping you upside the head,
Jinnie, and watching spin around and swing at shadows - but only
because you seem to enjoy prostrating yourself.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
"Semantic ambiguity?" see what I'm talking about, you use words that
make you appear to be a pompous young ass when you could use simple
words the watery shit was pretty plain, I approve....BTW your spelling
is improving...Shit, you owe me for coaching kid Bwaaaaahahahaha
> Like you, Jinnie - every time I mistype something, it is purely just a
> matter of being creative and you pulling the spell-nazi schtickt is
> nothing more than a transparent attempt at a change of subject or
> otherwise diversion from the present hammering you are taking. Plain
> as day, moron.
>
>
> > --BTW you apply for a Visa to go European
> >yet? The euro is super strong so I look for skydiving to remain alive
> >there long after you little parasites have killed it off here, there
> >will be pockets of it here after the USPA dies off of
> >course.....Mainly places providing Tandems outside the GM
> >system,
>
>
> >,,,maybe you should be nicer to the Lodi kid if you don't want
> >to immigrate to France to work in the sport.
>
..So that way you won't have to give up your US citizenship and become
French, just play politics and give blow jobs like you normally do
here in Texas...You won't have to give French tongue in Lodi though
heh heh.
>
>
> >...Yes you might make a great Frenchman Jerry
>
> How do you feel about Lafayette?
>
> ...bsrp
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He didn't stay in the original 13, the man just wanted to defeat the
English...I'm expecting you to become a French citizen--- Better order
a Rosetta Stone course now kid ;)P
Jerry K.
Nevermind that they were the group out ~before~ you, dumbass. Their
biggest mistake was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you
weren't going to be a giant dickhead. It was ~their fault~ you didn't
give a decent amount of exit spacing after they exitted because it was
"their choice" to be on the same jumprun with you. You must not
realize how absolutely stupid that conclusion actually is, Jinnie -
otherwise you wouldn't be making it. So, umm - that what you told
them later when you catching hell for it? How'd the S&TA take it?
>and they cried
>about it?
AKA - expressed strong concern that you had not given a decent amount
of exit seperation between exits resulting in you, an "out of control
freight train" (your words, Jinnie) ending up near, next to, and below
the formation out ahead of you. Close enough to where you were seen
and close enough to where it was determined that a collision with
disasterous results was at risk. Too close. Close enough for
concerns to be expressed to you. Your response - it was ~their~
fault. Gotta tell ya, dipstick, I'm surprpsied your ass didn't get
beaten right then and there. Ignoring exit seperation is one thing
but blaming it on the formation ahead of you? Ass beating time.
>I'd say they were responsible..
Of course you do because you're a self-centered dickhead who is too
stupid to know when he's wrong and so remarkably stupid that he thinks
it's the formation ahead of him's fault that you didn't give them
enough exit-seperation. You're dumber than a post, Jinnie. Way
dumber.
>..Going out the door is a
>personal choice, no one is forcing you to do it..
Right - so why did you choose to not give a decent amount of exit
seperation for the formation out ahead of you? They chose to exit and
you chose to exit when you did. And you would have anyone reading
this crap believe that it is their ~fault~ that you chose to go out
when you did. Dickhead.
>..Thats another
>service I provided "Giving the faint of heart something to whine
>about.......AFTER THE FACT
No small wonder you didn't give skydivers something to grieve about -
which was probably the basis of the talking to you got afterwards, as
well as any supposed groaning or pulling off of loads whenever you got
that sitflying training wheels sitsuit out of the bag. The story
comes out - the reason Jinnie's sitsuit would cause such a ripple of
fear (and likely anger) amongst any who saw it was memory and story of
Jinnie in his sitsuit flailing like in Jinnie's words, "and out of
control freight train" past the formation out ahead of him due to, not
the sitsuit, but Jinnie's total lack of regard for decent exit
seperation between formations and when clued in to the importance of
this critical aspect of skydiving, he blamed the formation ahead of
him saying it was their choice to be on the same jumprun as Jinnie and
the fact that he fell under them was their fault. It's a wonder he
didn't get his ass beat right then and thrown off the dz shortly there
after. I think the real story to that is he cried he was sorry and
promsied to try to be good if he could just pretend to be a figurehead
of menace at the dz - they probably took pity on him. I wouldn't
have.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Actually it was more a spotting issue than about exit order....You
ain't lived till I hosed you kid----Just one sky god attitude and I'd
hose the whole Otter Load to get that one. You wouldn't stand a chance
if I was still active Jerry.....The S&TA?
"You know how Snuffy is. Hes playing head games with you...Deal with
it, let him out then go around or get off the load"- - -tired of girly
boy complaints I guess. I was just jumping, they had no guts- - -
better never see one wearing a "No Fear" T shirt I'd be on them like
white on rice.....they were afraid- -skydiving was the most dangerous
thing they had ever done.....Skydiving was just fun to me...I had
already
fried the part of the brain fear springs from before picking up the
sport...I needed to work harder to get a adrenalin pump going------
This gave me the advantage, not to mention my military experience as a
tactician.....I owned the cry babies, It finally dawned on the smarter
sky gods "Don't fuck with Snuffy, he ain't playing." ;)P
Mike Spurgeon
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:23:33 -0700, Mike Spurgeon <mi...@spurgeon.net>
> wrote:
>
>> the unknown flailer wrote:
>>>> Btw - you misspelled ~imagine~ up above, dumbass.
>>
>> He's been a creative and careless speller as long as he's been here.
>>
>> Big fucking deal.
>>
>> Dan Rossi said it best regarding his spelling.
>>
>> You don't have a clue...
>
>
> And that, Mike, is a perfect example of someone, in this case you,
> exercising his right to be an apologist - not that that's a bad thing
> - just is what it is. So, Mike - the next time Jinnie slips into his
> little spell-nazi meter maid outfit and works the "can't spell" chain
> yank, then I suppose the obvious response to such a lame gambit of his
> is to remind him he doesn't have a clue and lay on the sarcasm a'la
> big fucking deal?
Actually, I mis-quoted above. The words were yours, as you might
realize:
**************************************************
"Ah, someone else shatters their tib fib and
faceplants into tarmac and it's mortal for sure
but that sorta thing can't kill the snuffwad
<sarcasm, dummy> - just as long as an ambulance
can get out to the runway where he crashed and
get his immobile ass to the hospital. Btw - you
misspelled ~imagine~ up above, dumbass."
...srp
...jlk
**************************************************
I was apologizing for no one. I stated four facts. You can fall in
with Big Jim, if you want, and consider them anything you want.
1. He's been a creative and careless speller as long as he's been
here. (meaning Snuffy... There have been interesting reactions to
that fact from various others.
2. Big fucking deal. (actually, I can be more than a bit anal
about spelling - I've made more than one post on the subject)
3. Dan Rossi said it best. If you don't understand that, then #4
applies.
4. You don't have a clue...
> For myself, I've over time completely ignored his
> creative and careless spelling except when he's been critical of my
> own creative and careless spelling or of others - often times while
> being creative and careless himself with his spelling in that very
> same post. The irony is remarkably stark but I agree, big fucking
> deal - but it's a big fucking deal apparently to the dipstick, isn't
> it - otherwise, why would he bring up spelling in the first place?
You don't have a clue...
> Like you, Mike, I don't give a
> shit about spelling but hypocrisy and rank stupidity made in public
> beg for public comment - and so I do, as does anyone who feels like it
> - even you - whenever and whatever they want. And that's how it
> should be, eh?
You don't have a clue...
Have you read 'Quincy Beauty'?
rooster
>
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This new surge of intellectual stimulation has served you well Mr.
Mike. It's the most that you have committed to print in some time.
Please continue.
Jerry K.
wrote:
Then apparently the difference between apologizing and being an
apologist is beyond your thought processes, Mike. Like I suggested,
look it up if you're curious about the difference between the two.
>
>1. He's been a creative and careless speller as long as he's been
>here. (meaning Snuffy... There have been interesting reactions to
>that fact from various others.
All the more interesting when Jinnie takes it upon himself to find
fault with another's creative or careless spelling, Mike. It's
hypocritical, when you get down to it and to raise the subject of
spelling mistakes while in the process of actually making spelling
mistakes is laughable in the ineptitude of such an execution.
>
>2. Big fucking deal. (actually, I can be more than a bit anal
>about spelling - I've made more than one post on the subject)
For myself, spelling is entirely beside consideration as a means of
castigation of another. This isn't a term paper or newspaper article
but it is in the public, such that it is, eye so I try to spell words
correctly but don't give a shit enough to run a spell check but when
someone else suggests some sort of failing inherant over a misspelled
word while in the process also mispelling, then spelling becomes an
issue to consider as it a symptom of a much more ridiculous failing
that is abject hypocrisy. A dropzone parallel could be perhaps say
someone biffs in a landing and then another person biffs him next to
him, telling the first guy that he sucks because he can't stand up his
landing. Stones and glass houses to put it another way. Jinnie's
house is a trailer in tornado alley with a big sign telling all the
other residents they're stupid to live in a trailer in a tornado zone.
Hypocrisy is one of those unique human failings where the hypocrite is
either too stupid to know he's a hypocrite or too arrogant to think
anyone can tell. And stupidity and arrogance resound across Jinnie's
term in skydiving, as it does now on this newsgroup.
>
>3. Dan Rossi said it best. If you don't understand that, then #4
>applies.
>
>4. You don't have a clue...
I can certainly understand Jinnie's failures in spelling as I can
understand Jinnie using spelling to disparage another. Her spells the
way he spells due to laziness or creativity or as a matter of
affectation and he disparages others to yank chains or change
subjects. But understanding this makes him no less a hypocrite when
he does.
>
>> For myself, I've over time completely ignored his
>> creative and careless spelling except when he's been critical of my
>> own creative and careless spelling or of others - often times while
>> being creative and careless himself with his spelling in that very
>> same post. The irony is remarkably stark but I agree, big fucking
>> deal - but it's a big fucking deal apparently to the dipstick, isn't
>> it - otherwise, why would he bring up spelling in the first place?
>
>You don't have a clue...
Then get past the simple apologist answer and illuminate me, Mike. I
challenge you to do so if you're up to it. Explain how there is no
irony or hypocrisy in someone disparaging another over spelling while
at the same time mispelling himself. Explain how spelling isn't a big
deal to him when he brings up the subject in the first place. I'm
being frank with you, Mike, and just saying you don't have a clue is
hardly illumination. Like I've said, as if I could give a shit about
spelling but if some demonstrated moron is going to cast aspersion
based on my own creative spelling while at the same time misspelling
himself, I'm gonna conclude that spelling must be a big deal for him
and that he's a hypocrite for casting aspersions for something he
demonstratively is unable to do as well and a moron for not realizing
it in the first place.
>
>> Like you, Mike, I don't give a
>> shit about spelling but hypocrisy and rank stupidity made in public
>> beg for public comment - and so I do, as does anyone who feels like it
>> - even you - whenever and whatever they want. And that's how it
>> should be, eh?
>
>You don't have a clue...
Which isn't an answer so for lack of any other information on the
subject, it must be beyond your thought processes.
>
>Have you read 'Quincy Beauty'?
I''ve already said I have not and I've also said that I'm interested
in learning what Quincy Beauty is. If you have clue, fill me in, why
doncha?
Mike Spurgeon
> This new surge of intellectual stimulation has served you well Mr.
> Mike. It's the most that you have committed to print in some time.
We're suffering from (perhaps)too much hired help for the first time
I can remember, so I'm a bit bored. However, we're still setting
records, so I'm a bit stimulated.
> Please continue.
Not much longer.
Life's way too good for pissing contests...
Jerry K.
Reminds me of a guy at Waller who got laughed at and caught a lot of
hell, bigtime. Load comes down, one guy screws up his approach and
crashes into a car parked along the pathway leading out to the loading
area. After we determine he's all right we ask him what the fuck
happened? He answered, "That's the last time I let <the spotter>
spot." In other words, this doofus blamed his hitting a car 100 yards
from the landing area on the spotter. And here you are, Jinnie -
blaming your lack of exit seperation first on the formation out ahead
of you and now on the person spotting. You're an idiot.
>...You
>ain't lived till I hosed you kid--
You couldn't hose me - I wouldn't let you. You see, unlike you I
understand how to look out before I exit and am perfectly capable of
not exitting and calling a go around if necesarry - not to mention you
wouldn't be the first jackass I inadvertantly shoved out the door. Ah,
well - you can't jump, Jinnie and never will again so feel free to
bask in your little if only if fantasies.
>--Just one sky god attitude and I'd
>hose the whole Otter Load to get that one.
So, are you now suggesting you were spotting that time you made such a
lasting and ugly impression in your sitsuit training wheels? This
issue with the spot leading to your disregard of exit seperation was
due to the spot - a spot you had screwed up? Put it together, Jinnie
- you haven't blamed the pilot or the DZO yet but it has to be only a
matter of time. Lamer.
>You wouldn't stand a chance
>if I was still active Jerry....
I guess we'll never know, will we, Runway Pizza? But, if this ~if
only~ fantasy you're working makes you feel better about how it all
turned out for you, then have a party. You are where you are and I
still get to skydive with my friends and that's good enough for me.
>.The S&TA?
>"You know how Snuffy is. Hes playing head games with you...Deal with
>it, let him out then go around or get off the load"- - -tired of girly
>boy complaints I guess.
I.E. "Snuffie's a dickweed and a self-centered moron so do yourself a
favor and keep your head on a swivel - the life you save may be your
own." Who was the S&TA, Jinnie?
>I was just jumping, they had no guts- - -
>better never see one wearing a "No Fear" T shirt I'd be on them like
>white on rice.....they were afraid- -
Yeah, all that baggage they had and you ignoring proper exit
seperation and flailing down below them like, as you described it, "an
out of control freight train" and it's all their fault. <sarcasm,
dummy>. You weren't just jumping, dipstick - you were posing. It was
all about you. "They were afraid" and it's "their fault" and it was a
"problem with the spot." Nevermind that they were the formation out
ahead of you and ~you~ chose to exit where you did and put yourself
past and under them. "Their fault." Deny the watery shit pooling
around your waist, Jinnie - it's still brown and smelly no matter what
you call it. You're a narrow minded moron.
>skydiving was the most dangerous
>thing they had ever done.....Skydiving was just fun to me...I had
>already
>fried the part of the brain fear springs from before picking up the
>sport..
Oh, gawd, here we go - Jinnie launches into the rationalization game
blaming his past and anything under the sun - except himself - for
what is clearly his own major league screwup. Runway Pizza.
>.I needed to work harder to get a adrenalin pump going------
Shit, work a little harder and you get to take some other people along
for the ride.
>This gave me the advantage, not to mention my military experience as a
>tactician.....I owned the cry babies, It finally dawned on the smarter
>sky gods "Don't fuck with Snuffy, he ain't playing."
I.E. - Snuffie's a dickweed and a self-centered moron so do yourself a
favor and keep your head on a swivel - the life you save may be your
own." No wonder whatsoever your short term in skydiving ended the way
it ended, Runway Pizza. That and karmic balance - you had it coming.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
What, you have a problem understanding simple english, dumbass?
>you use words that
>make you appear to be a pompous young ass
Perhaps in your eyes since your grasp of words is not what I would
call indicative of, how you like to put it, "classical training,"
dipstick. Tough shit if you don't like the words - what these words
say still remains the same - and illustrate you for the remarkable
blockhead that you are.
>when you could use simple
>words the watery shit was pretty plain, I approve.
That you approve is hardly a marker for confidence in the real world,
dumbass. That you have a problem with the words is no answer to what
the words are saying, moron, and it's a pretty piss poor attempt at a
subject change, for that matter. Tough shit if they "sound" a certain
way to you - that's your problem, not anyone else's. Butch up and
learn a little english if you're having a difficult time keeping up,
junior.
>...BTW your spelling
>is improving...Shit, you owe me for coaching kid Bwaaaaahahahaha
Cut the crap, dipstick - spelling was never an issue for you except in
terms of your standard lame chain yank gambit and as a matter of
trying to change the subject. You're just ill-equipped, is all. Got
no answers and can't keep up. Morally and intellectually bankrupt so
it's been a matter of resorting to bitching about spelling. Weak.
>
>> Like you, Jinnie - every time I mistype something, it is purely just a
>> matter of being creative and you pulling the spell-nazi schtickt is
>> nothing more than a transparent attempt at a change of subject or
>> otherwise diversion from the present hammering you are taking. Plain
>> as day, moron.
>>
>>
>> > --BTW you apply for a Visa to go European
>> >yet? The euro is super strong so I look for skydiving to remain alive
>> >there long after you little parasites have killed it off here, there
>> >will be pockets of it here after the USPA dies off of
>> >course.....Mainly places providing Tandems outside the GM
>> >system,
>>
>>
>> >,,,maybe you should be nicer to the Lodi kid if you don't want
>> >to immigrate to France to work in the sport.
>>
>..So that way you won't have to give up your US citizenship and become
>French, just play politics and give blow jobs like you normally do
>here in Texas...You won't have to give French tongue in Lodi though
Voice of experience this must be what you got going on, Jinnie. Got
news for you, dipstick - without the French there never would have
been these United States and if you don't know what I'm talking
about, that will come as no surprise to me. Fortunately for them we
returned the favor - and we owed it - but people who are quick to slam
the French are morons who slept through history.
>>
>
>>
>> >...Yes you might make a great Frenchman Jerry
>>
>> How do you feel about Lafayette?
>>
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>He didn't stay in the original 13, the man just wanted to defeat the
>English..
And in so doing engineered exactly what the rebellion needed to keep
it from withering on the vine - and served this country bigtime.
There's statues to the guy for good reason.
>.I'm expecting you to become a French citizen--- Better order
>a Rosetta Stone course now kid
Yeah, well - I'm expecting you to remain an dingleberry for the rest
of your pathetic little life. And on the ground.
...bsrp
...jlk
Mike Spurgeon
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:15:26 -0700, Mike Spurgeon <mi...@spurgeon.net>
> wrote:
>>> And that, Mike, is a perfect example of someone, in this case you,
>>> exercising his right to be an apologist - not that that's a bad thing
>>> - just is what it is.
>> I was apologizing for no one. I stated four facts. You can fall in
>> with Big Jim, if you want, and consider them anything you want.
> Then apparently the difference between apologizing and being an
> apologist is beyond your thought processes, Mike. Like I suggested,
> look it up if you're curious about the difference between the two.
So when Big Jim calls me an apologist:
*****************************************
> Big Jim wrote:
>> >> "Mike Spurgeon" <mi...@spurgeon.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:487E15F5...@spurgeon.net...
>>> >>> Big Jim wrote:
>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Mike, why you continue to apologize for that clown Snuffy
is beyond me.
>>> >>> That figures.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Show me one instance of where I apologized for him.
Aploogist-A person who argues in defense or justification of
something- fact lookmin your own dictionary and verify it.
*********************************************
And you call me an apologist:
*********************************************
>>> And that, Mike, is a perfect example of someone, in this case you,
>>> exercising his right to be an apologist - not that that's a bad
thing
>>> - just is what it is.
*********************************************
And you subsequently say:
*********************************************
Hey Mike, if you get a chance, look up the definition for the word,
"apologist," because you are one. This isn't meant as a slam or an
insult but it is what it is. If you disagree, which is absolutely
your right, then it must be because it's beyond your thought processes
or to put it more politely, you don't understand.
*********************************************
And you subsequently say:
*********************************************
> Then get past the simple apologist answer and illuminate me,
> Mike. I challenge you to do so if you're up to it.
*********************************************
And I said:
*********************************************
Colloquial usage
Today the term "apologist" is colloquially applied in a general
manner to include groups and individuals systematically promoting
causes, justifying orthodoxies, or denying certain events, even of
crimes. Apologists have been characterized as being deceptive, or
"whitewashing" their cause, primarily through omission of negative
facts (selective perception) and exaggeration of positive ones,
techniques of classical rhetoric. When used in this context, the
term often has a pejorative meaning.
***************************************************
You come back with:
***************************************************
> Then apparently the difference between apologizing and being an
> apologist is beyond your thought processes, Mike. Like I suggested,
> look it up if you're curious about the difference between the two.
***************************************************
These quotes were in different posts, and some certainly don't
receive them in any particular order, but I try to be correct with
quotes and who's responding to whom.
You keep pissing on your shoes...
the unknown flailer
Got no talent,
Can't get in,
Got no grip if you do pass by a formation?
Pin problems?
Can't teach because of all these personal problems?
Buy a Video Helmet, join me in the cry baby club
Best Regards and Blue Skies,
Jerry's- two bit Go around photography shop.
Jerry K.
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Jul 17, 10:00�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>
>Got no talent,
No, Jinnie had no talent, no no no no no
>Can't get in,
Lo, he misssed the formation again low low low low low
>Got no grip if you do pass by a formation?
Passing below the group out ahead "like a freight train out of
control"
>Pin problems?
Now he say checking the pin on the ground is the be all to end all
alls
>Can't teach because of all these personal problems?
Couldn't buy a S/L rating or a clue but biffed eighty consequtitive
falls
>Buy a Video Helmet, join me in the cry baby club
Buy a falcon canopy - designed for the AFF novice - have this old one
for free
> Best Regards and Blue Skies,
>Jerry's- two bit Go around photography shop.
Call and leave a message - Jerry's likely up on ~another~ load with
his friends.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
wrote:
>rooster wrote:
>
>> This new surge of intellectual stimulation has served you well Mr.
>> Mike. It's the most that you have committed to print in some time.
>
>We're suffering from (perhaps)too much hired help for the first time
>I can remember, so I'm a bit bored. However, we're still setting
>records, so I'm a bit stimulated.
Even with all that greedy skydiver/inflation stuff Jinnie was talking
about going on? One would think it would be keeping your numbers low,
Mike. Or was that just Jinnie's standard lame-o rhetorical bullshit?
>
>> Please continue.
>
>Not much longer.
>
>Life's way too good for pissing contests...
You got that right! Now, someone tell the dipstick...
Jerry K.
wrote:
You did not say that - the colloquial usage you say you wrote above in
response to what's above that, Mike. You've lost track. What you
have there, the colloquial usage, you posted to a different post
which I had not seen at the time I responded with what you say I
responded with below.
>You come back with:
>***************************************************
> > Then apparently the difference between apologizing and being an
> > apologist is beyond your thought processes, Mike. Like I suggested,
> > look it up if you're curious about the difference between the two.
>***************************************************
>
>
What I wrote above was in response to what you wrote here - below:
Mike: "I was apologizing for no one. I stated four facts. You can
fall in with Big Jim, if you want, and consider them anything you
want."
Jerry: "Then apparently the difference between apologizing and being
an apologist is beyond your thought processes, Mike. Like I
suggested, look it up if you're curious about the difference between
the two."
That is the order and context between those two quotes, Mike. Is this
simply a case of Thunderbird (newsreader - not the beverage) screwing
you up or only a case of you just losing track?
>
>These quotes were in different posts, and some certainly don't
>receive them in any particular order, but I try to be correct with
>quotes and who's responding to whom.
And again - when you said, "I was apologizing for no one" after you
were called an apologist was a clear display of the difference between
apologizing and being an apologist as beyond your thought processes,
Mike. As was apparently your grasp of what was said in response to
what.
>
>You keep pissing on your shoes...
On that, you don't have a clue, Mike. The reality here, Mike, is
Jinnie said some crap and had it hurled back in his face. You tried
to explain or spin what the dipstick meant but it didn't change the
nature of his crap or how resoundingly it flew back in his face. You
were called an apologist over it, and rightly so, which you are
presently either still in denial over or seeking clarification before
you can accept the label - and with statements suggesting I keep
pissing my shoes after you display difficulty keeping track of what
was said in response to something else, I'm not really buying you as
absolutely the final word as to who's pissing their shoes and who
isn't. I'll still continue to converse with you and speak with you
with the respect I believe you've earned but the snide remarks you're
prone to make as apparently either an expression of disrespect or
defense from some misperceived attack are not really encouraging the
confidence I have, and presently still have, that you're as sharp as I
was earlier all too happy to give you the benefit of the doubt on. My
guess is you likely don't give a shit what that asshole who doesn't
allow snuffie a blanket king'sX or tacit acceptance with silence to
his delusions thinks and that's okay, too, but if you're gonna keep
with the snide remarks, especially as a punctuation where you've
demonstratively lost track, it can only go downhill and for what it's
worth, I don't want that.
Mike Spurgeon
> Even with all that greedy skydiver/inflation stuff Jinnie was talking
> about going on? One would think it would be keeping your numbers low,
> Mike. Or was that just Jinnie's standard lame-o rhetorical bullshit?
None of the above, but I figured you would try and see it that way.
We're like the bar business, recession proof.
You don't believe me, come to a real DZ and see.
>> Life's way too good for pissing contests...
>
> You got that right! Now, someone tell the dipstick...
One time, and one time only, Jerry:
He's an original. If he's around for another fifteen years, I won't
be disappointed.
Your drivel I could do without forever.
Mike Spurgeon
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:32:44 -0700, Mike Spurgeon <mi...@spurgeon.net>
>> You keep pissing on your shoes...
>
> On that, you don't have a clue, Mike. The reality here, Mike, is
> Jinnie said some crap and had it hurled back in his face. You tried
> to explain or spin what the dipstick meant but it didn't change the
> nature of his crap or how resoundingly it flew back in his face. You
> were called an apologist over it, and rightly so, which you are
> presently either still in denial over or seeking clarification before
> you can accept the label - and with statements suggesting I keep
> pissing my shoes after you display difficulty keeping track of what
> was said in response to something else
I have a threaded news reader, Jerry. I'm very capable of using it
when needed. I even said some of what I posted was out of order,
but I had checked it threaded to make sure who said what.
Reality is he said something that had more than a glimmer of truth
in it.
When you gave your usual obsessed reply, he followed up with an even
larger glimmer.
I added more context than 2006-2007, since I recall what the USPA
has been saying for nearly all this decade, and Snuffy had just said
pretty much the same.
You used the 2006-2007 information like a drunk uses a lamppost, for
support rather than illumination.
the unknown flailer
> Jerry K. wrote:
> > On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:32:44 -0700, Mike Spurgeon <m...@spurgeon.net>
> >> You keep pissing on your shoes...
>
> > On that, you don't have a clue, Mike.
Wow talk about being out of touch ;)
the unknown flailer
> Jerry K. wrote:
> > Even with all that greedy skydiver/inflation stuff Jinnie was talking
> > about going on? One would think it would be keeping your numbers low,
> > Mike. Or was that just Jinnie's standard lame-o rhetorical bullshit?
>
> None of the above, but I figured you would try and see it that way.
>
> We're like the bar business, recession proof.
>
rooster
A statement was made. It was countered by using USPA stats for
2006-2007 to show that the original statement was incorrect, and if
using corroborative evidence to show the ineptitude of others is
decried to be a fowl, lean on that pole and buy the beer. If
"illumination" is defined to mean: tell the world why skydiving may or
may not be in decline in the US in 300 words or less, well JerryK
obviously failed to live up to that definition, however he did use the
facts to support his point and not supposition.
Regards and Blue Skies,
Bing "Rooster" Maloy
Jerry K.
wrote:
>Jerry K. wrote:
>
>> Even with all that greedy skydiver/inflation stuff Jinnie was talking
>> about going on? One would think it would be keeping your numbers low,
>> Mike. Or was that just Jinnie's standard lame-o rhetorical bullshit?
>
>None of the above, but I figured you would try and see it that way.
See it what way, Mike? You say business is awesome and I think that's
great but it does kinda call into question Jinnie's assertion that
there's greedy skydiver/inflation stuf keeping membership down and if
business is awesome, is not membership at a positive - maybe some new
jumpers at the dz? And if so, logic indicates that the greedy
skydiver inflation stuff Jinnie was gargling was patently uninformed,
shortsighted and indeed rhetorical bullshit - nevermind the 2006-2007
numbers already illustrating this.
>
>We're like the bar business, recession proof.
Which would indicate that unless greedy skydiver/inflation stuff is
more poisonously virulant than a recession (and real), that there's no
way - you're proofed against it - that numbers are down due to that
insidious greedy skydiver/inflation stuff, is there?
>
>You don't believe me, come to a real DZ and see.
Real dz? I thought life's too good for pissing contests, Mike. My dz
is real enough. Got some planes, some jumpers some sky and some good
times - it doesn't have you - is that what makes it real? Just
keeping it real, Mike - you need to lighten up. I believe you when
you say business is good - I see similar activity and growth at dz's
here in Texas. Jinnie would too except he's a narrow minded shut-in
and what he would see doesn't jibe with his own soothing brown
personal prejudices of the skydiving world as it stands today.
>
>>> Life's way too good for pissing contests...
>>
>> You got that right! Now, someone tell the dipstick...
>
>One time, and one time only, Jerry:
>
>He's an original. If he's around for another fifteen years, I won't
>be disappointed.
I disagree. He's a poser and a liar and a troll and if he's around
for another 15 years I'll be happy for him but otherwise I don't give
a rat's ass. He'll be forgotten.
>
>Your drivel I could do without forever.
Then do without it, Mike. Reading my drivel and saying you can do
without it is pissing in your pants.
Jerry K.
You first, Jinnie. It wouldn't be the first time you said you would
piss on my booties yet never got your shit together to do something so
patently simple. Btw, Jinnie - if you agree with Mike like I do that
the busines is recession proof, are you saying all that "greedy
skydiver/inflation stuff" is more powerfull and damaging then a
recession and if it is, how is it that business is very good at Mike's
place (and here in Texas, too) with such a powerfully damaging
influence from all that "greedy skydiver/inflation stuff?" Thanks for
helping to clear the air on this Mike - maybe the dipstick will see
the light and dispense with his personal prejudices fouling everything
he has to say - hope the business stays awesome for you too, dude!
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
>
> - Show quoted text -
The facts are the USPA has grown little.....the reasons are the
question.
Jerry K is well known for being in denial
he seems to be a authority on nothing
other than
stealing another video geeks medal
now the question becomes
does the sport need more people like this?
the unknown flailer
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:44:31 -0700, Mike Spurgeon <m...@spurgeon.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Jerry K. wrote:
>
> >> Even with all that greedy skydiver/inflation stuff Jinnie was talking
> >> about going on? One would think it would be keeping your numbers low,
> >> Mike. Or was that just Jinnie's standard lame-o rhetorical bullshit?
>
> >None of the above, but I figured you would try and see it that way.
>
> See it what way, Mike? You say business is awesome and I think that's
> great but it does kinda call into question Jinnie's assertion that
> there's greedy skydiver/inflation stuf keeping membership down and if
> business is awesome, is not membership at a positive - maybe some new
> jumpers at the dz? And if so, logic indicates that the greedy
> skydiver inflation stuff Jinnie was gargling was patently uninformed,
> shortsighted and indeed rhetorical bullshit - nevermind the 2006-2007
> numbers already illustrating this.
>
>
>
> >We're like the bar business, recession proof.
>
>
> >>> Life's way too good for pissing contests...
>
> >> You got that right! Now, someone tell the dipstick...
>
> >One time, and one time only, Jerry:
>
> >He's an original. If he's around for another fifteen years, I won't
> >be disappointed.
>
Will the newsgroup be here in another 15 years?
I should have been dead by 30
Now I'm more than twice that
Coffee's no longer a nickle
and pie ain't a dime
they don't hang people in front of the court house anymore
can't even ride a horse into town
I won't be here in 15 years
my time is past
Jerry K.
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Jul 18, 10:38 pm, rooster <c-roc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 18, 8:53?pm, Mike Spurgeon <m...@spurgeon.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Jerry K. wrote:
>> > > On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:32:44 -0700, Mike Spurgeon <m...@spurgeon.net>
>> > >> You keep pissing on your shoes...
>>
>> > > On that, you don't have a clue, Mike. ?The reality here, Mike, is
>> > > Jinnie said some crap and had it hurled back in his face. ?You tried
>> > > to explain or spin what the dipstick meant but it didn't change the
>> > > nature of his crap or how resoundingly it flew back in his face. ?You
>> > > were called an apologist over it, and rightly so, which you are
>> > > presently either still in denial over or seeking clarification before
>> > > you can accept the label - and with statements suggesting I keep
>> > > pissing my shoes after you display difficulty keeping track of what
>> > > was said in response to something else
>>
>> > I have a threaded news reader, Jerry. ?I'm very capable of using it
>> > when needed. ?I even said some of what I posted was out of order,
>> > but I had checked it threaded to make sure who said what.
>>
>> > Reality is he said something that had more than a glimmer of truth
>> > in it.
>>
>> > When you gave your usual obsessed reply, he followed up with an even
>> > larger glimmer.
>>
>> > I added more context than 2006-2007, since I recall what the USPA
>> > has been saying for nearly all this decade, and Snuffy had just said
>> > pretty much the same.
>>
>> > You used the 2006-2007 information like a drunk uses a lamppost, for
>> > support rather than illumination.
>>
>> A statement was made. It was countered by using USPA stats for
>> 2006-2007 to show that the original statement was incorrect, and if
>> using corroborative evidence to show the ineptitude of others is
>> decried to be a fowl, lean on that pole and buy the beer. If
>> "illumination" is defined to mean: tell the world why skydiving may or
>> may not be in decline in the US in 300 words or less, well JerryK
>> obviously failed to live up to that definition, however he did use the
>> facts to support his point and not supposition.
>>
>> Regards and Blue Skies,
>> Bing "Rooster" Maloy- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>The facts are the USPA has grown little.....the reasons are the
>question.
But you were already convinced on the answer, Jinnie - that pesky
"greedy skydivers/inflation." Not that you've substantiated this
reason and not that I haven't already debunked this reason.
> Jerry K is well known for being in denial
Actually, Jinnie - you are well known for rhetorical bullshit
tailored to make you feel better about yourself and your
circumstances.
> he seems to be a authority on nothing
Whereas Jinnie believes he's an authority on why "USPA has grown
little." Notthat he's actually deonstrated his grasp to be typified
as an authority, mind you but he has said what is, is which is good
enough for him but certainly not good enough for anyone with, say,
more than two jumps they could walk away from in the last decade.
> other than
> stealing another video geeks medal
And Jinnie's an authority on that too but what's missing whenever he
brings this up is any substantiation whatsoever.
> now the question becomes
> does the sport need more people like this?
Need is a subjective consideration, Jinnie. Does the sport "need"
more skyidivers like you? We could engage in a pissing contest to
determine what I bring to the sport and what you did and for evrything
you said I brought to the sport which you would say the sport did not
need, you would fail to bring substantiation that I brought it and
further, for everything I said you brought to the sport which I would
say the sport does not need, I would substantiate - often with your
very own words. So - answer your own question with substantiation (or
not) and let the pissing contest begin. That is - if you dare.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
Quiet Jinnie - adults are talking.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
wrote:
>Jerry K. wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:32:44 -0700, Mike Spurgeon <mi...@spurgeon.net>
>
>>> You keep pissing on your shoes...
>>
>> On that, you don't have a clue, Mike. The reality here, Mike, is
>> Jinnie said some crap and had it hurled back in his face. You tried
>> to explain or spin what the dipstick meant but it didn't change the
>> nature of his crap or how resoundingly it flew back in his face. You
>> were called an apologist over it, and rightly so, which you are
>> presently either still in denial over or seeking clarification before
>> you can accept the label - and with statements suggesting I keep
>> pissing my shoes after you display difficulty keeping track of what
>> was said in response to something else
>
>I have a threaded news reader, Jerry. I'm very capable of using it
>when needed.
Then you either didin't need to be capable the last time you did or
you're not as capable as you say. You certainly did not demonstrate
that you were capable earlier.
>I even said some of what I posted was out of order,
You also said you try to be correct with quotes and who's responding
to whom but you did not try hard enough. There were instances where
you in your quotes would say something and present that I had come
back to that something with something I decidedly had not come back
with - the wrong quote - the quote you appended was a response to
something else you had written. I corrected this so there would be no
confusion. I guess I was just having a better day with the threaded
newsreader than you - no big deal.
>but I had checked it threaded to make sure who said what.
If this is so then how is it that some of the quotes you put up were
erroneously placed and indeed out of order in terms of what response
was to what was said. Mike, I don't care how capable you are with
your newsreader but I brought it up because I didn't want to just
knee-jerk that you had lost track - software errors can occur. And
now, here you are saying you made sure who said what - and you did -
but you did not make sure who said what to what was said. Try to do
that better next time you present a bunch of quotes for consideration
because erroneous context can only create confusion.
>Reality is he said something that had more than a glimmer of truth
>in it.
Glimmer of truth? That's just more apologist spin, Mike. I disagree
with this more than a glimmer of truth opinion for if there was more
than a glimmer of truth then numbers would be kept low - as the
dipstick said they were being kept low - but by 2006-2007 measurements
they are on the rise - I fail to see this more than a glimmer of truth
as what the dipstick said - if it existed - has been shown to have
no measureable effect.
>When you gave your usual obsessed reply, he followed up with an even
>larger glimmer.
How can a reply be obsessed, Mike - especially if it is supported by
measureable data? I would say the apologist reflex of spinning the
unmeasured as more than a glimmer of truth while not being perhaps
obsessed, then perhaps is more than a little myopic or blind to the
reality around you.
>I added more context than 2006-2007, since I recall what the USPA
>has been saying for nearly all this decade, and Snuffy had just said
>pretty much the same.
I missed that report from the USPA addressing the greedy
skydiver/inflation keeping numbers low, Mike. You missed it too when
presenting your report on the downwards trend - which I did not
contest while you dismissed the 2006-2007 information as whopping -
that is, to not even be considered due to its relative size. But a
net gain is a net gain and if there is a net gain, then how can
anything be supposedly keeping numbers down when up is the
antithetical of down?
>
>You used the 2006-2007 information like a drunk uses a lamppost, for
>support rather than illumination.
The idea was to spy out and investigate a report of a snake on the
corner walk by the lamp post where the village idiot says a snake is
keeping the pedestrian traffic down. The snake is hard to see but
while shining the light around it does appear that there's greater
traffic on the walk than before but the walk is not as crowded as it
used to be before that. The village idiot points in a direction and
says it's the snake and snake's keep pedestrians from using the walk
so that is why it's not as crowded as it's been in the past. Still,
it's getting ever more crowded on the walk so either the snake up and
vanished, or people lost their fear of or vulberability to snakes, or
perhaps the snake was only a shadow in the village idiot's addled
head. And if you are suggesting the trend information confirms the
greedy skydiver/inflation stuff theory of jinnie's and it is the
answert to what is keeping numbers low I fail to see the connnection
and you're off your rocker.
Best regards and blue skies,
Jerry
Mike Spurgeon
> Then do without it, Mike. Reading my drivel and saying you can do
> without it is pissing in your pants.
Up until the last couple days, I haven't read any of your posts in
years. You're a broken record.
You do, unfortunately, show up in the posts of others.
Mike Spurgeon
> My attempt at
> vernacular eat up Rossi's speech processor I'm thinking. He got a
> laugh out of it for awhile....
He said smoke was coming out of it.
> hadn't seen or heard of him on here for
> a while...Maybe he grew up
Last I heard he was getting married. That was two or three years ago.
He was back at Carnegie Mellon, and with the same email address he
had there when he was a student and the first blind guy to get a
C-license.
He could tell a story, also.
Don
Flare when you hear the crickets!
Jerry K.
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Jul 18, 11:05 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:44:31 -0700, Mike Spurgeon <m...@spurgeon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Jerry K. wrote:
>>
>> >> Even with all that greedy skydiver/inflation stuff Jinnie was talking
>> >> about going on? One would think it would be keeping your numbers low,
>> >> Mike. Or was that just Jinnie's standard lame-o rhetorical bullshit?
>>
>> >None of the above, but I figured you would try and see it that way.
>>
>> See it what way, Mike? You say business is awesome and I think that's
>> great but it does kinda call into question Jinnie's assertion that
>> there's greedy skydiver/inflation stuf keeping membership down and if
>> business is awesome, is not membership at a positive - maybe some new
>> jumpers at the dz? And if so, logic indicates that the greedy
>> skydiver inflation stuff Jinnie was gargling was patently uninformed,
>> shortsighted and indeed rhetorical bullshit - nevermind the 2006-2007
>> numbers already illustrating this.
>>
>>
>>
>> >We're like the bar business, recession proof.
>>
> Nothing is ression proof punk
You're pissing your pants, Jinnie - Mike wrote that about Lodi - not
anyone else - unless you mean to say Mike is a punk - and I disagree
with you there. I can't believe these snot-nosed novice 300 jump
wonders like jinnie who think because they were in a scrambes meet
once and flew a falcon canopy that they can talk to such real deal
been there and done that old time rated skydiverJM's like Mike who's
put in the time and is still putting that time in. I AM APPALLED. Do
try to keep up, dumbass - and go change those wet panties. Hey Mike -
is this an example of Jinnie's further establishing a tradition of
blithering creativity and obsessive carelessness or perhaps he's
simply inept and confused?
>
>>
>> >>> Life's way too good for pissing contests...
>>
>> >> You got that right! Now, someone tell the dipstick...
>>
>> >One time, and one time only, Jerry:
>>
>> >He's an original. If he's around for another fifteen years, I won't
>> >be disappointed.
>>
>
> Will the newsgroup be here in another 15 years?
(no, for greedy skydivers and inflation must kill it)
> I should have been dead by 30
(wish in one hand then spit in the other and see
which one will fill it)
> Now I'm more than twice that
(and an enormously fat dimwit)
> Coffee's no longer a nickle
> and pie ain't a dime
(And that's a merchant mentality isn't it)
> they don't hang people in front of the court house anymore
(So it's the inner-net for self-serving entertain-mint)
> can't even ride a horse into town
(You could if you had any balls just to try it)
> I won't be here in 15 years
(Oh, woe - woe is me - sob story ain't it)
> my time is past
(And these are the good old days,
these are the good old days...)
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
you ate a worm?
the unknown flailer
Way to go Jerry, your plan to get me kill filed by association is half
way there
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Jerry K.
wrote:
>Jerry K. wrote:
>
>> Then do without it, Mike. Reading my drivel and saying you can do
>> without it is pissing in your pants.
>
>Up until the last couple days, I haven't read any of your posts in
>years. You're a broken record.
Not any in years? Why, Mike - you must have read some, if only
because you responded to posts of mine in October of just this past
year and as recently as only six months ago! Hardly years. Well,
you've been reading them lately and I seem to remember you saying I
was a broken record before as well (you calling me a broken record is
starting to sound like a broken record, Mike) and yet you started
reading them again having determined not to for years -whups - for
months, I mean. Some might call that obsession but not me. Car wreck
curiosity? Couldn't look away?
>
>You do, unfortunately, show up in the posts of others.
But people saying whatever whenever they want is as it should be,
didn't you say, Mike - or is that as it should be only for that
dipstick who didn't buy into your premise on how the business is
recession-proof and as obsessed as he is, pissed his pants and called
you a punk? You know, Snuffie? You could, for instance, simply
killfile me (or just swear off reading my posts and others posts where
I am in conversation for forever and ever and ever and mean it this
time for sure scout's honor the next time around - real years, not
months this time) for starters and if I show up in other's posts,
either ignore those posts or if the curiosity or temptation gets too
obsessively strong for you to handle, try to close your eyes when you
get to something I wrote - then ~and this is crucial~ put the mouse or
laptop down, step away from the computer, turn around, take a deep
breath, and stick your head in a bucket of sand. Or, just don't
respond - that'll get me to stop - easy - now where did that magic
fix-all come from? ...hmmmm. Or tell everyone not to allow me in
their posts - that'd learn me and save you from the temptation! Just
trying to help, Mike - wouldn't want you pissing your pants like
Jinnie or anything on my account - any more than the two of you
already have, that is.
Jerry K.
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Jul 19, 12:50 am, Mike Spurgeon <m...@spurgeon.net> wrote:
>> Jerry K. wrote:
>> > Then do without it, Mike. Reading my drivel and saying you can do
>> > without it is pissing in your pants.
>>
>> Mike wrote the two following sentences, dispshit - do try to keep up.
>> Up until the last couple days, I haven't read any of your posts in
>> years. You're a broken record.
>>
>> You do, unfortunately, show up in the posts of others.
>
>you ate a worm?
There you go, Jinnie - keep on establishing that tradition of
blithering creativity and obsessive carelessness and we'll try to
avoid mistaking it for bungling ineptitude and doddering confusion.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
Actually, the joke's on you, Jinnie - and way to go - you finally
responded to a post without accusing Mike of being a punk this time
around. That's progress!
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 07:06:47 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
Uh Biggy Jim took a vow of silence.....You should follow his lead. I
can talk about his love of getting fudge packed down in South Beach or
anything I want and he can't say shit. ;) All these years you two
twits have been trying to censor or limit my posts and all you have
done is been asked to censor yourselves. Me? I have what I want,
freedom to have a opinion and give that opinion. Being a old
philosopher and armature psychologist I got plenty of them you bet
you. Been nice knowing you young dummy! Nottttttttt ;)P