Chuckles,,, you just want to break my balls because I got kicked
out,,, A G A I N
Nah, I just want a dizzy dot com moderator like Winsor to come around
over here on wreck whining about people with redneck opinions & humor
killing forums again....I get off on shit like that you know. <eg>
Besides it ain't you, its their need to control--keep your chin up
kid. ;]
again? <grin> Took how long this time?
Well, you do have a very off handed redneck humor. For the life of
me, I can't figure out their problem?
yeah to DZ.com. This time I had some respect for the one kicking me
off. Not like before when you have a wet behind the ears baby
slapping my hands. Bill Von got me this time, and his opinion, I
respect. He gave me 15 days, so because I respect him so much,
I'm going to throw in an additional 15 days, BEFORE he has to kick me
out again.
Shucks, I'm feeling pretty proud of myself. I lasted at least 2
months. I was doing okay, until that basturd started telling me how
good Skyrides Ben & Cary is for our sport of skydiving. I couldn't
take it. Got drunk again and yes,,, looked stupid againnnnnn.
bunch of pretentious scuppies supporting selling out the sport over
there?----stay over here with the mean but straight thinking old
rednecks kid
> Shucks, I'm feeling pretty proud of myself. I lasted at least 2
> months. I was doing okay, until that basturd started telling me how
> good Skyrides Ben & Cary is for our sport of skydiving.
Wow. There are actually jumpers that will say that?
I wouldn't last two minutes...
I was at a DZ a few years back. Some guy I hadn't see
in years shows up. We get to talking about what he's doing.
Turns out he's involved in their act some way. I stared
at him for a bit, trying to figure out what to say. I finally
just said, "how'd your last jump go?"
Any one willing to do it, much less defend it, isn't going
to understand the arguments against it.
Kevin O'Connell
I agree. Their actions are quite clear; and, I too, am unable to deal
with C.Q. and/or B.B., their enterprises or companies' associates with
any amount of respect.
No problem, Nut. You did good, even if you think you did not. (HUG)
Brokeneagle.
75 push ups and 30 laps for kissing up to a moderator brown nose!
0~;)P
I aint kissing up to some NOBODY pappy,,,,. brown noser he aint,,,.
He deserves the respect. AND he understands my disrespect when I
finally go back in. yeppers, he is political, but just like mike
mullins, he needs somone who can bust his balls when he needs it.
He is a real skydiver, based in the old time shit, with talent and
skill; and deserves the right to say fuck yew to anyone he wants to.
UNFORTUNATELY,, he said fuck meeeeeee.. SOOO,, I'll give him an
additionally 15 days, and he can say fuck meeee again.
awww we aint alone. There are still good moral skydivers out there
who are still fighting the fight. Just doing it better than I am as
far as doing the ballerina dance with the dz.com politics. They can
be nice,,, unfortunately, I can't be.
Thats why I wanted to get him (skyride supporter) over there from
dz.com in a dog fight over here.
I"m sooo naughty,,, slap my hands pappy von..
THANKS MIKE,,, you must be OLD TOOOOOOO
I'M GOING TO TRY,,, to choose my words very carefully, even as drunk
as I am...... brb
NOPE,,, i just too a moment, to go pee,, and think about it. The
family in the south-east needs peace at this time. We need to heal
from the loss of one of our great leaders. So I shall do as bill von
told me to do ----and shut up about skyride.
Thanks buddy,, I'll shut up now.
yeppers, I try to stay over here after 9 pm my time, BAHWHAHAHAHAHAHAH
He and I both are way older than your AARP butt kid, perhaps you
should call us Sir! 0~;)P
First thing to remember when fighting mammon & those who love
it--------->Never Slack Up. I had to whip on some of my VNN people in
the supporting platoons with a bamboo stave for slacking off on the
suppression fire while the platoons were practicing fire and maneuver
together. It left the last platoon coming out with their wounded in a
bad situation. If you think evil money grubbing bottom feeders like
that pair care about the sport or respecting the S.E.'s loss or
anything else, you got another think coming kid, they see it as
weakness to be exploited just as any enemy would. Keep up the counter
attack. Lock mercy in the closet. You can try to look nice after their
cut out from the sport like cancer and totally annihilated. fuck now
I'm thinking you need more PT cuz you are to nice.....hup hup hup
ALLRIGHT Brokeneagle, quit babying his butt-----30 laps for you! ;)P
I go over and see what their talking about every few months for
recondo purposes but rarely bother to talk to any one and if I do--its
generally someone I recognize or jumped with years ago & its by Dizzy
dot com e-mail function. It makes it harder for the moderators to be
aware a known thug is around, heh......In and Out kid---Its about
technique ~WORK ON IT~
Babying his butt is Lucky's job, not mine- also, changing his
perpetually filled diapers falls to her, poor thing. BUT, I can't help
agreeing with the leetle sour Twig on his OPE-inion of skyride's
originators. I do punishment laps when deserved. Not this time,
flailer. How often do I compliment Nut? Get over it. :D
I'm not sure the people supporting Skyride are actually jumpers -
unless they are Ben or Cary with a secret identity.
In some cases it would seem the people trying to justify the "business
model" are part of the boiler-room operation. Since the first target
of a con-man's pitch is the con-man himself, my guess is that you have
people saying the same things they say to themselves in order to be
able to look themselves in the mirror.
Since a lot of vitriol does not tend to win friends and influence
people, rising to the bait is rather pointless. Billy Vance is so
pissed at the nice folks at Cedartown that people assume he's
exaggerating (he isn't).
The best way to address the problem is not likely to be a frontal
assault. Getting Bill to stop accepting Skyride business would be a
good start.
Blue skies,
Winsor
Just wait till he turns 65 or 70....I saw 80 year olds in the old
folks home they put me in while I was busted up and unable to walk
that had holes cut in their wheel chair seats with a bucket under
because they shit their pants at odd times like at the dinner table,
playing bingo, during social hour....getting old ain't for sissy's
I'm telling you. Lucky should buy him one of those wheel chairs with a
hole in the seat, then all she would have to do is lean him forward
and stick a bottle rocket up his butt and dump that pail once or twice
a day...Skydivers make jokes about adult diapers shoot they haven't
met a serious shitter yet heh heh
> BUT, I can't help
> agreeing with the leetle sour Twig on his OPE-inion of skyride's
> originators. I do punishment laps when deserved. Not this time,
> flailer. Get over it. :D
Copping a skygoddy attitude on me huh? 30 laps on a flat track ain't
nothing, in training we had to run a timed 6 miles before breakfast in
combat boots, no jogging shoes allowed for PT in those days (matter of
fact I don't think they had been invented yet) and just to make it
interesting the Cadre spread out along the route & had us do 75 push
ups every mile. Then they upped the runs to 3 times a day and started
making it more difficult...You know adding packs filled with sand and
rifles carried at port arms during the noon run to make us sweat.
Their crowning moment was when some insane lifer came up with the idea
of running us through the trees when the K-9's had come in for the
evening feed and were tied up to them-----better not act like you were
going for your K-bar or butt stroke one of those dogs with your piece
or try to kick it is all I can say. Yeah you modern kids are snot
nosed & such softy's because no ones around any more that cares about
you enough to provide some old style tough love. 0~;)P
> Blue skies,
>
> Winsor
***EXCEPTION***
Bull shit, who wants to be friends with liars, con men & & thieves
other than the types trying to brown nose their way into a cut of the
rip off?
Get a rope and go straight for them
Tar and feather their young butts, then string them up...
Why? Their hurting not only potential jumpers but honest DZ's
while attracting bad elements to the business side of the sport.
A old man born in 1885 once told me ummm around about in 1949 I
believe it was, the best way to kill a snake is cut off its head then
throw it down a out hose hole.
Thieves, snake oil salesmen and bandits? Don't even bother the lawmen
about it.
Just hang them from a tree and bury the carcass in a shallow grave out
in the woods. Yawl are getting a little bit to liberal to suit some
folks mumble mumble ;(
Hmmmm, nice to be called a kid at 51..... and, thanks fer th' tough
love, and yer jest as bad, you crusty old biscuit- (grin) Not giving
you a skygoddy attitude, only an open one- to agree or not here with
opinions expressed by folk is worth more or less; value of such
depends on who cares to read it.
As long as someones around 18 or 19 years older than you, your going
to be a kid to them. Guess when I'm 80 I'll start giving the 65 year
olds a break
"BUT THEIR STILL GOING TO BE A BUNCH OF SNIVILING BABY BOOMERS!
I'm just a cranky old man stuck in the 1940's & 50's to them I
reacon. But what the hell,
and, thanks fer th' tough
> love, and yer jest as bad, you crusty old biscuit- (grin) Not giving
> you a skygoddy attitude, only an open one- to agree or not here with
> opinions expressed by folk is worth more or less; value of such
> depends on who cares to read it.- Hide quoted text -
I was probably in the military & overseas when you were
born....possibly a SN
(E-3) and on my 2nd Westpac cruise already by then finally off Mess
Cooking (K.P.) and hadn't been snookered into land warfare training
yet so probably happy with the Navy and my advancement
prospects....People in their early 50's are always going to be kids to
me----I'm just the grumpy old man type you think?
Not really, I just like to mess with snot nosed know it all kids like
Chuck, Jimbo
and Jerry. Call it a Hobby ;)
..... and, thanks fer th' tough
> love, and yer jest as bad, you crusty old biscuit- (grin) Not giving
> you a skygoddy attitude, only an open one- to agree or not here with
> opinions expressed by folk is worth more or less; value of such
> depends on who cares to read it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yuh, I not only read it but think about what yawl say even Jerry's
whining. I realize I'm at least a century behind in my thinking and it
don't translate to most modern people but what the hell, it was my
century and I loved the cars that came along with it.
As far as the training being more brutal, we were used to harsh
conditions and not as hip as you youngsters seem to be about what your
rights are. I've been unfair handing out laps....It occurs to me the
track around the football field when I was in High School was 4 laps
to a mile. One lap would kill peanut if he even thought about it.
And I'm asking you to run 7 1/2 miles for giving nut boy sympathy.
Just ain't fair. They might have run us 18 to 24 miles a day but it
was broken down to 6 mile increments----the crazy bastards had other
things they had to fit in....Like push ups,
set ups and class's. Yep I don't blame you for telling me to stuff it
so tell you what I'm going to do, just run 4 laps and quit babying nut
boy-----him? Dunno I'm thinking maybe a switching in front of God and
everybody would do him more good! Yawl have fun and be safe this week
end kid.....Hose a load on the spot just for old snuff because that
what I liked to do, just to wake up whiners and get shit stirred up.
0~;->
Why, I would never tell you to stuff it, flailer- I merely rejected
more laps as punishment for believing the same thing nut did about the
infamous ones.... their truth really DOES suck.
I'm afraid I can't hose a spot for you this upcoming- suppose you'll
have to delegate that job to pee-nut- have to work Sat.; get Sunday
off, then all work days 'cept for one more off day till Thanksgiving.
Got screwed out of my next three-day weekend. The madness has already
begun for us at the shop. Management decided to gift us with a short-
handed work staff to handle holiday overload, so it's job security
time/overtime (hopefully kept by me, and not stolen at the end of the
work week by 'time management'- when they cut your time to keep you
from going over 40 hrs- common practice by managers) for me.
Thanksgiving day they give us off....
:D
Yeah,,, i have already had a couple come sniffing around about "lookey
at me over at skyride", I get every fourth jump free. I just have
have to jump by myself with a plane load of tandems..
But you're right,,, I need to start paying better attention. I've
been at the top, and been at the bottom. Okay,, still at the bottom
but fighting my way back
Chuckles,, thanks mike,, put in a good word to Bill von for me.
Thanks Kevin, And yeah, you are right. I get approached often by
someone wanting to get my pannies in a wad around a known group of
skyride haters. you can feel it,, no sense in talking to it.
Stupidity, is a terrible mind to waste.
I aint getting near my wife in a wheel chair. I live on a old
vineyard/winnery, thats basically on a bit HILL> I love her, and she
me, but the older I get the more her values change
Holy CHITTTT,, Looks like she is taking up for me??? She don't use
drugs,,, did someone slip her an estacy?
Chuckles, college all american and all army were my roomies, heheheh
You run like the sissy ass navy/ non seal types. LLLLL old man, you
aint run near enuff. You got one good arm, I think ists about time
to start breaking out the wheel chair for some neighborhood terror
>
Even I can take the right road- don't let it swell yer head any
more.... you'll not be able to come outside an' play with us... (grin)
Yuh those new fangled Hollywood frogs run different than we did...We
mostly ran in tight formation so they could keep an eye on our tricky
young butts. Except for the evening run through the dog line. Kind of
hard for K-9's to bite a mass formation,
they get intimidated and hide behind the trees their chained to. Fuk a
wheel chair,
I was in one two years. Would rather walk like Lurch and scare old
lady's, babys & children. 0~;->
Their values change as soon as they get that marriage license in their
hands kid. ;)
Well bottom line, I was giving you more miles than I was forced to run
at one time.
The mean old bastards from preceding wars who trained us might route
march us 35 miles carrying full combat loads but they never ran us
over six miles at one time
and contrary to what my little fan club of skygod weenies claim. I'm a
fair & honorable old man
> I'm afraid I can't hose a spot for you this upcoming- suppose you'll
> have to delegate that job to pee-nut- have to work Sat
Peanut probably does an excellent hosing of the load anytime he spots
hahahaha ~my kind of skydiver~ ;]
Good points. ,, and well taken Winsor.
I still like the frontal assault because of my personal dis-taste for
their sleezy methods of hurting people just drives me wild. Then
after they hurt people they say things like, "look what good people we
are".
This organization of flim-flam is still in operation after all these
years. When will it stop.? It will stop, as it did with ballooning,
when all the balloon people ban together and stop taking the
Certificates. Skydive DZO's must do the same thing. OR people will
continue to be hurt by them.
'S not just the DZO's that could excise it, tho, in my opinion it's an
infection of the whole organization- even the whole sport; and if they
(the DZO's) could and did band together it would help a lot, but who
among us will not/does not spread the word that they feel is correct
about these ones that show no decency? We do what we can- and we
always warn whuffos that inquire of our sport about the unscrupulous
sites as well as good ones
Theres a old saying: As long as decent people stand aside and do
nothing, corruption will continue to spread..............HANG
SOMEBODY!!!
> I still like the frontal assault because of my personal dis-taste for
> their sleezy methods of hurting people just drives me wild. Then
> after they hurt people they say things like, "look what good people we
> are".
Cancer, its like cancer.....you have to preform radical surgery. HANG
the bitchs!
>
> This organization of flim-flam is still in operation after all these
> years. When will it stop.? It will stop, as it did with ballooning,
> when all the balloon people ban together and stop taking the
> Certificates. Skydive DZO's must do the same thing. OR people will
> continue to be hurt by them.
Yeah Union, Union, Union...the USPA's just going to set on their
thumbs and watch them drive other DZ's out of buisness because the
public is turned off by this sleazy con game they play and give the
whole sport a bad name. Union Union Union........ Band together, get a
rope and saddle up :( grrrrrr
Thanks pappy,,, this thing yoiu do with the threads makes it easy for
me to keep up with whats going on over here. Whats going on I don't
know,.... But for some reason, I KNOW, yoiu need to know what my
drunken mind is thinking. And HOW I am getting in trouble the last
time.
uhmmm,,, Do I appear drunk a g a in ? ? ?
B i N g O
PS, wanna go rope a goat???
What do I know, the inner cranial bleeding in 1996 left me brain
damaged, unable to walk or talk----Forgot several lanuages to. Old age
seems to finished off the remainder of a once brilliant Counter
Insurgents brain You appear normal to me, you know as you have always
been ~typical peanut~. This butt smooching DZ dot com moderators that
wander over here has to stop though. This is wreck where purity of
free speech & thought rules and a spade can be called a spade if one
is willing to take their lumps for doing it. Kissing up to those goody
goody two shoe liberals from over there will do you no good. They will
kick you off shortly after you rejoin again for being politically
incorrect or insensitive to some mainstream punks feelings, you can't
help yourself. Their just trying to use you, when finished you will
just be cast aside again.
I see that nose go up one more moderators ass and I'm going to be on
you like white on rice boy! ;)P
Yeah, but me appearing normal to you, must scare the LLLLL out of
america. (Kissing dz com moderatosr I'll get back to later,)
> wander over here has to stop though. This is wreck where purity of
> free speech & thought rules and a spade can be called a spade if one
> is willing to take their lumps for doing it.
Have i took my lumps? Have I dished it out too much? -- Have I
dished out more than I'm willing to take? -----I hope that the fights
I"ve picked here is worth fighting it when I"m 64. AND I can look
back and go,,, DAMN i was right.
Do I have the "respect" enough to just me me? A stupid ass "old"
skydiver around a bon fire?
Kissing up to those goody
> goody two shoe liberals from over there will do you no good. They will
> kick you off shortly after you rejoin again for being politically
> incorrect or insensitive to some mainstream punks feelings, you can't
> help yourself.
Well, I pick the ones I respect. EVEN though, they don't see eye to
eye with me in this five years. I look inside their heads, I see
their hearts. I look for the long term soul of a person.... even
when meeting them in a short term of time. even if disagreeing in
much of life,, I look in-between their eyes. He has much to disagree
with me on... He needs to listen more,, and
Their just trying to use you, when finished you will
> just be cast aside again. > I see that nose go up one more moderators ass and I'm going to be on > you like white on rice boy! ;)P
yeah,,, but I aint giving up on that "one", I think he has what it
takes, after he gets out of the money side.,,,,,
SOOO, what you're saying? Is that I don't belong over there at all.
I need to stay over here, so I don't get in trouble again?
He getting a kickback from the two Sky ride thieves for spreading oil
on the water, you think? Never mind, we will show these sporge M'fers
they cant bury our threads. One sorry M'fer at a time, we will
overcome them by shear power of will and a couple of kegs of beer. ;)
Well, I did not git that drift from that particular draggon.-- He
disagres with me on much of my life. but he appeared that he can
understand where he disagrees with me. my point being,,, even though
he may agree to disagree.. I always listen to pappy.
Yep, you sound drunk now! hahahahahahaha ;)P
sometimes,,, i WOULD like for you to be wrong.
I hope you are wrong this time... but knowing you the way I know you,
I will probably be wrong aga8in......
LLLL paPPY,, i AINT really drunk
I've been wrong before......once back in the 1950's I'm thinking,
bought a Edsel.
~ROFLMAO~
And lumping Biggy Jim in with the South Beach gay community that was
wrong.
A great disservice to the rainbow nation. Biggy's not a manly man but
as a sissy boy he doesn't qualify as a queer either, neither does
Jerry by the way. 0~;)
Heh - Jinnie's now the arbiter of what "qualifies" as "queer." Hell,
Jinnie - the way you put it, lots of people don't "qualify" for navy,
either. Shit too easy, Jinnie.
...bsrp
...jlk
YEPPRERS,,, IT HAS HAPPENED TO THE BEST OF US.
>
> ~ROFLMAO~
>
AND Pappy is acting like my wife, shutting up, when its "convienent"
Just Advising a third world trooper, thats what I was trained to do.
Now, wheres the river from here? ;)P
>
> Their just trying to use you, when finished you will
>
> > just be cast aside again. > I see that nose go up one more moderators ass and I'm going to be on > you like white on rice boy! ;)P
>
> yeah,,, but I aint giving up on that "one", I think he has what it
> takes, after he gets out of the money side.,,,,,
There it is, once you cross the line from Amateur jumper to pro....Any
purity you had is lost, all you are is another cheap whore that will
do anything up to and including selling out the sport for money and
you can never regain your virginity. Look at Jerry K. 0~;-*
Hell, don't stop there - look at Jinnie, too - if only for laughs but
also for comparison. Who's still jumping? Also - ya know, Jinnie -
Mike I think has "cross(ed) the line from Amateur jumper to pro" and
therefore is apparantly encumbered with all that baggage of rhetorical
bullshit proportions. So, you calling Mike a "cheap whore" now and if
you are, how come you were kissing his ass recently and if you aren't
calling him a "cheap whore," why the hell not? I mean - he has, you
know, been guilty of "cross(ing) the line from Amateur jumper to pro."
What I want to see, Jinnie, is you spin the inconsistancy ~and~ kiss
Mike's ass at the same time. Dancy monkey!
...bsrp
...jlk
Riggers and certain types of Jump Masters are exempt in my book. Mike
is clear.
Mike has been loyal to one DZ for years, you are a traveling looking
for pimps.
So run on over and get a job with skyrideand quit trying to drag old
Mike into the hog pen because you're lonely sonnyboy. 0~;-*
I don't know Mike from Adam, only saw one picture of him in
parachutist years
ago while I was still a member of the USPA. Theres no way he can help
me, so why would I brown nose him? He has the cedentials, you don't.
He's from my era,
your not. He suffered boot camp & the military durning the last of the
bad old days,
you have served no one but self....always taking the easy out. Mikes
been loyal to Lodi for decades, I
Mike can't help me, he's just another elderly guy I happen to like. We
share some of the same era and come out of a tougher
generation....Theres a lot to admire about Mike. He was a Marine when
being a Marine still meant something. I followed the posts on his boss
over the years also. Billy D's a spoiled rich brat and tends to be a
hot head. Working for him can't be that easy yet Mikes stuck with him
while right up the road in the Bay Area their was a up scale Tandem
Mill with better facility's and pay probably, yet Mikes remained loyal
to Lodi. Another point in his favor! I spent time in the old Oakland
Army Hospital being put back together physically---they taught me to
walk again in a swimming pool.
Went to some schools at the Presido and on T.I.----pulled Liberty in
the San Francisco Bay Area many times and its nice up there kid. Who
knows why I like some people and not others------Loyalty and age and
common experiences is often a big issue. You can never tell though I
like some young people also----perhaps because they remind me of team
mates or myself from years ago. Take that New England lurker Don. Got
no idea who he is but I respect his opinion. All we have in common is
some harsh training and we both were on Okinawa at one time or
another. Mike finished his terms of service before the 2nd Indo China
war heated up. For all I know Don did also. I stuck around and got
caught up in it, didn't come out a hero (to politically incorrect
perhaps?) But I had the privilege of serving with Hero's. I am a
product of my training and experience Jerry (the war effected me
little, the months and months of CIT training and earning my flash &
later the 3 month CI/SERE was more dificult than the war-The beating I
took without being able to strike back in training may have twisted my
thinking in some perverse way. Or maybe it was being stationed
exclusively with Foreign Nationals living by their standards......All
I know is as a shirker and cry baby YOU STAND NO CHANCE girly boy! You
will always be a punk ass bottom feeding whore in my pocket log!. 0~;-
*
Oh, woe <sarcasm dummy> I'm in Jinnie's notes to himself somewhere -
whatever will I dooooo! Gee, I bothering the dingleberry again? Now,
keep in mind that when you said, "There it is, once you cross the line
from Amateur jumper to pro....Any purity you had is lost, all you are
is another cheap whore that will do anything up to and including
selling out the sport for money and you can never regain your
virginity," it was clearly a third person you which was not directed
specifically at one person at the time, beyond the example after the
statement, but broadly at all who "cross the line..." But, what
about Mike "cross(ing) the line...?" Well, it seems you just crabwalk
there's some things about him which you can identify with and/or
relate to - which is fine - but it also has absolutely nothing to do
with your stated absolute regarding anyone who "cross(es) the line..."
In other words, just more rank hypocrisy spewed out while trying to
defend a clear inconsistancy residing within the realm of your
rhetorical bullshit. Of course, earlier on you were jumping on the
nut for kissing ass - "I see that nose go up one more moderators ass
and I'm going to be on you like white on rice boy!" And when you
finally quit with the tonguing and get your head out of Mike's ass,
Jinnie, try to understand that no matter the ass and no matter the
fragrance coming from within which makes french kissing it so, so
attractive to you, no one looks good in brown lipstick.
...bsrp
...jlk
Hell, Jinnie - you were the one who said "once you cross the line from
Amateur jumper to pro....Any purity you had is lost, all you are is
another cheap whore that will do anything up to and including selling
out the sport for money and you can never regain your virginity,"
while neglecting at the time to mention the exceptions and exclusions.
All I did was bring up an inconvienent example and presto, never seen
a crab walk it so well! Guessing brown lipstick wouldn't help their
looks, either - doesn't do much for you. Gonna have to start calling
you "Brownie," if all this butt-smooching of yours keeps up. Heh -
you're doing a helluva job, "Brownie!"
...bsrp
...jlk
Shit, dummy - dragging people "into the hog pen because you're lonely"
is S.O.P. for you - you get ignored and you start crying out and name
dropping, bigtime - it's a sure bet - and it's sure a pathetic keen.
Mike was brought up as an inconvienent example - whether he wants to
step into the "hog pen" or not is his own lookout. So, "certain
types" are allowed to "cross the line from Amateur jumper to pro..,"
and lose their "purity," and become "cheap whore(s) that will do
anything up to and including selling out the sport for money," and
ultimately become bereft of their "virginity," - like Mike apparently
has? As you've said, some "line" has been "crossed" and while Mike
presently chooses to cross it as others might, he's a "certain type"
so the action and all that rhetorical bullshit baggage you're
appending to anyone who "cross(es) the line" is actually unimportant,
but what is important is that they be a "certain type," as well as
perhaps posessing a background (or backside) which you can press your
lips against. Shit too easy, dummy.
...bsrp
...jlk
Of ciourse, Jinnie doesn't go to dz's, nor does he skydive but what's
telling here is how Jinnie is so up on the "queer" qualification
department. Like I've said, dummy - and the parallel is stark - you
also present yourself as up on the navy qualfication department - and
the truth is often funnier than fiction.
...bsrp
...jlk
Mike crossed over long long ago in the days of purity on both ends of
the sport before you young mainstream bottom feeders came in and made
making money off the sport ugly.....He is Grandfathered in and retains
his original purity rating handed out by me, their are others
also.....not just Mike.
Trying to feed me to the dogs with your DZ politics huh kid? Well keep
the faith,
Mike is just as likely to rip into me for giving him a stamp of
approval as he would for getting lumped in with your sorry young ass.
He don't like people discussing him on wreck like this. I'll take the
chance though, just so you get shot down with me....Wow, is that a
Samurai attitude or what?
BTW he has more than one rating and/or useful skill, you are just a
video geek....He's licensed to teach the sport and may be a JM/I &
Tandem/Examiner as well, he don't like to reveal himself so its hard
to tell
PUT THAT UP YOUR ASS AND THINK ABOUT IT PUNK!!!! Yeeeeeeeeha
>,,, even though he may agree to disagree.. I always listen to pappy.
Like taking chances huh? heh heh....All joking around aside, I do care
about you young pecker woods. Look at the time I spend on Jerry K.
Trying to harangue the girly boy out of him and square away the poor
things attitude. I've got years invested in that kid. A difficult case
at best. I noticed a slight change though, he gave a Limey dumb ass
some good advice yesterday......and FOR FREE, no strings attached...No
talking down to him. Just a simple "see your jump master Zowee I think
Jerry's mellowing as he ages. Where as I did just the opposite, you
know got More vinegary...Hope you sobered up long enough to get all
your firewood cut you lazy thing, Christmas is just around the corner.
Unkle Snuffy ;-)P
So, it's not so much the concept of someone crossing "the line from
Amateur jumper to pro" and potentially losing their "purity and
becoming "another cheap whore that will do anything up to and
including selling out the sport for money" and losing their
"virginity" forever which has you all chapped but only with all that
occurring based upon some sort of timing, I see.
>..He is Grandfathered in and retains
>his original purity rating handed out by me, their are others
>also.....not just Mike.
And, let me make a guess here - these "others" also retain their
"original purity rating handed out" which insulates them from becoming
"another cheap whore that will do anything up to and including selling
out the sport for money" and losing their "virginity" forever, having
crossed "the line from Amateur jumper to pro" at or before some
certain point in time, eh?
>Trying to feed me to the dogs with your DZ politics huh kid?
Dogs? What dogs, Jinnie? And please explain how, as I have been
clearly illustrating with your own words, just how absurd they are and
how inconsistant you are, that this is somehow "Trying to feed (you)
to the dogs with ... DZ politics?" Feeling a little paranoid,
Brownie? Crying out for those tried and true "skygod" and "dz
politics" bugbears of angst, are you? Cry some more!
>Well keep
>the faith,
>Mike is just as likely to rip into me for giving him a stamp of
>approval as he would for getting lumped in with your sorry young ass.
In this case, Mike has only been an inconvienent example of just how
stupid you are, and inane is your rhetorical bullshit assertion, "once
you cross the line from Amateur jumper to pro....Any purity you had is
lost, all you are is another cheap whore that will do anything up to
and including selling out the sport for money and you can never regain
your virginity."
>He don't like people discussing him on wreck like this.
Hell, Jinnie - "bothering" people and "riling" them you have said is
what makes you "happy."
>I'll take the
>chance though, just so you get shot down with me..
Standing by for this fantasmagorical "shoot down," Brownie.
>..Wow, is that a
>Samurai attitude or what?
If you had any sort of "samurai attitude," Brownie, you would have
committed ritual seppuku and left the newsgroup a long time ago.
> BTW he has more than one rating and/or useful skill, you are just a
>video geek....He's licensed to teach the sport and may be a JM/I &
>Tandem/Examiner as well, he don't like to reveal himself so its hard
>to tell
>
>PUT THAT UP YOUR ASS AND THINK ABOUT IT PUNK!!!
Gee, I bothering the Eta, yet? You said it, Brownie - not me, in your
own words, Mike has crossed "the line from Amateur jumper to
pro....Any purity (he) had is lost, all (he is) is another cheap whore
that will do anything up to and including selling out the sport for
money and you can never regain your virginity." Of course, that's a
mighty fine crabwalk to give him a pass on all that because of the
timing of it all. And it's a familiar crabwalk - and when you think
about it - it's a "dz politics" crabwalk. It's not so much what he
did and still does which chaps you or not, but simply the timing -
another person could do the very same thing in another time and,
presto - "Any purity you had is lost, all you are is another cheap
whore that will do anything up to and including selling out the sport
for money and you can never regain your virginity." Yo, Brownie -
you're throwing yourself to the dogs with your own "dz politics."
...bsrp
...jlk
Only certain types------->The easy ones, like you.
>
>
> > BTW he has more than one rating and/or useful skill, you are just a
> >video geek....He's licensed to teach the sport and may be a JM/I &
> >Tandem/Examiner as well, he don't like to reveal himself so its hard
> >to tell
> Yo, Brownie -
> you're throwing yourself to the dogs with your own "dz politics."
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
I can tell this really bothers you, tell you what....go out and get a
JM endorsement
and I'll sanction you....If you spent as much energy on getting the
right credentials like working on a FAA rigging endorsement & USPA
instructor endorsement then teaching as you do trying to drag Mike
into the mud and feed me to the dogs........You could be a JM/I in no
time. I'd have to leave you alone then, because riggers-AFF Weenies or
not I don't usually fuck with. Well at least not in the last 5 or 6
years. Their used to be one JM/I that sent me hate mail on a regular
basis after Wharton closed down. I kept sticking it to him
psycologicaly....Dunno what happened to him---hadn't got a fan letter
in years, perhaps he's in Rusk getting his medication adjusted--- or
maybe he got a job at sky ride. Either way I saved the GU by driving
him crazy and sending him fleeing to another Region. <smirk>
But then, at the time where you said, "There it is, once you cross the
line from Amateur jumper to pro....Any purity you had is lost, all you
are is another cheap whore that will do anything up to and including
selling out the sport for money and you can never regain your
virginity," you weren't talking to me or about me, beyond referencing
me as an example, were you? Mike was brought up as an inconvienent
example of just how retarded is what you said. From that you
crabwalked how it's okay for one person to "cross the line from
Amateur jumper to pro" resulting in "Any purity (those who do) had is
lost" and , all" (those that do) "are is another cheap whore that will
do anything up to and including selling out the sport for money and
you can never regain your virginity," based upon the timing in which
they crossed "the line" with some other totally beside the point
factors which you can relate to, but which have nothing to do with
that "line" being crossed. In other words, what you said was clearly
and only just more rhetorical bullshit, revealed by the light of an
inconvienent example of exception - and it's an exception you made,
not anyone else. That's what happens when you speak in absolutes,
such is the nature of rhetorical bullshit, without thinking it
through, Brownie.
No - it amuses the hell out of me - especially when you are unable to
answer pointed questions, the answers to which throw clear light on
just how low you're prepared to go for the sake of attention.
>tell you what....go out and get a
>JM endorsement
>and I'll sanction you...
If that isn't an example of dissuasion, I haven't heard it.
>.If you spent as much energy on getting the
>right credentials like working on a FAA rigging endorsement & USPA
>instructor endorsement then teaching as you do trying to drag Mike
>into the mud and feed me to the dogs....
Oh, poor, little Brownie - someone's trying to feed him "to the dogs!"
No, Brownie - Mike in this case is only an inconvienent example
illustrating just how wrong you are and how retarded is the statement,
"There it is, once you cross the line from Amateur jumper to
pro....Any purity you had is lost, all you are is another cheap whore
that will do anything up to and including selling out the sport for
money and you can never regain your virginity."
>....You could be a JM/I in no
>time. I'd have to leave you alone then, because riggers-AFF Weenies or
>not I don't usually fuck with.
Hell, for that matter Brownie, "you could be" at dropzones and in so
being, have yourself a clue and then, "I'd have to leave you alone
then," because people who post in here who have a clue, "I don't
usually fuck with."
>Well at least not in the last 5 or 6
>years. Their used to be one JM/I that sent me hate mail on a regular
>basis after Wharton closed down. I kept sticking it to him
>psycologicaly....Dunno what happened to him---hadn't got a fan letter
>in years, perhaps he's in Rusk getting his medication adjusted--- or
>maybe he got a job at sky ride. Either way I saved the GU by driving
>him crazy and sending him fleeing to another Region.
All this from the idea that he simply stopped emailing you, Brownie?
Quite the imagination. Salving, isn't it?
...bsrp
...jlk
I think your just trying to piss off the Lodi wizard because your
jealous of his experience and credentials-----your on your own kid ;-*
Dats the only thing you Navy seal type know what to do. Find the
river, EXIT EXIT EXT,,, people are shooting at me, and I'm not
supposed to be here.
OOPS Don't get that shit started again, their 5326's I believe. I was
a 9027, thats something entirely different. We lived along the river
with the Vietnamese acting as Force Multipliers. The SEALS in I Corps
stayed in Navy facilities up in DaNang when not running a mission. I
only saw two of them on my 1969 tour and that was in a whore house. My
first trip to Vietnam in 1960? Their were no SEALS, they hadn't been
created yet. I think they were authorized by Kennedy in 1962....Now,
they have enough men & platoons to do all the underhanded shit. Before
that fleet sailors were pulled out and trained as CoVans and Beach
Jumpers plus a few other odd things to do a lot of what the NSWFG does
now. Frog men mainly did beach surveys and beach obstacle clearance
back then. Although they did do some inland raids in the Korean War,
you know......blowing tunnels, ripping out railroad tracks in the
desperate hours when the UN was on the ropes to fuck up the NOK's
supply line and get some breathing space till more troops were bought
in. I've watched them on Sat T.V. Their weapons are modern & a lot
better but they don't fire and maneuver much different than we
did.....They run through a lot of firing drills. A old CoVan must have
wrote their land warfare manual...Thats the way we trained our
indigenous troops...we broke them down into six man Platoons also.
Thing about those F&M drills, they look pretty but after first contact
with the enemy
any plan you had......goes out the window and seeing their was two
different languages going on our Hashee's were trained to follow hand
signals, the CoVan would skulk around behind them giving hand signals,
Forward, fall back, 3rd platoon take all the dead and wounded, first
and 2nd platoons leapfrog & lay down cover fire----- go left....go
right, counter attack----not to far into their center we only have two
platoons now, come back dammit, di di, we go back to river quick now.
Stop here...dig in, were fighting a holding action till the attack
aircraft arrive.(first time I said that I felt foolish, their were at
least 200 enemy and we started out with 18 men, lucky FAC pulled some
Cobra's out of his hat and got our Bacon out of the fire. But those
drills had good effect as far as everybody knowing where their slot
was and what sector was their responsibility, when to give supporting
fire, what was expected of them etc etc etc We dirt dived the shit out
of things just like skydivers....casting out (the exit), the retrieve
(getting back on the boats). They never left anybody or anything
behind, not even a dead body or a weapon. I was proud of the blood
thirsty little bastards! they were like pit bulls. Getting them to
let go of the enemy was the hard part but otherwise? The SVN military
types got a bad rap as a whole IMHO.
Shit Brownie, it wasn't me who said, "There it is, once you cross the
line from Amateur jumper to pro....Any purity you had is lost, all you
are is another cheap whore that will do anything up to and including
selling out the sport for money and you can never regain your
virginity." And when you said it, the "you" who was crossing the line
wasn't any one specific person but anyone. And that includes Mike -
at least until you crabwalked an exception for him based up the time
he started and some other misc. trivia which you relate to but which
also has no relevance to that line which is being crossed. And as to
his "experience and credentials," as bonified as they must be after
all this time, it's even further confirmation that he crossed that
"line," and by your take - at least before you started crabwalking
exceptions - "Any purity (he) had is lost, all (he is) is another
cheap whore that will do anything up to and including selling out the
sport for money and (he) can never regain (his) virginity." Your
words, Brownie - not mine.
...bsrp
...jlk
Whewww,, afte reading all that,,?? yoiu still look for the river to
EXIT EXIT EXT,, we aint supposed to be here.
>
> >I think your just trying to piss off the Lodi wizard because your
> >jealous of his experience and credentials-----your on your own kid
>
> Shit Brownie, it wasn't me who said, "There it is, once you cross the
> line from Amateur jumper to pro....Any purity you had is lost, all you
> are is another cheap whore that will do anything up to and including
> selling out the sport for money and you can never regain your
> virginity." And when you said it, the "you" who was crossing the line
> wasn't any one specific person but anyone. And that includes Mike -
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk-
Negative, you said it includes Mike. I gave him special
dispensation ;)P
So, I guess what you said was just the same old, tired rhetorical
bullshit and doesn't apply to everyone - contrary to what you said.
...bsrp
...jlk
Ge a clue, It applys mostly to people like you. You don't want to
invest any more in the sport than you have to. Let somebody else pay
the price, do the work. You got no coaching endorcement, No JM
credentials....nothing but a camera. ou want credit for being a hero?
>On Nov 14, 9:25 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:30:28 -0800 (PST), the unknown flailer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>> >On Nov 14, 8:03 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:40:17 -0800, the unknown flailer
>>
>> >> >I think your just trying to piss off the Lodi wizard because your
>> >> >jealous of his experience and credentials-----your on your own kid
>>
>> >> Shit Brownie, it wasn't me who said, "There it is, once you cross the
>> >> line from Amateur jumper to pro....Any purity you had is lost, all you
>> >> are is another cheap whore that will do anything up to and including
>> >> selling out the sport for money and you can never regain your
>> >> virginity." And when you said it, the "you" who was crossing the line
>> >> wasn't any one specific person but anyone. And that includes Mike -
>> >> ...bsrp
>> >> ...jlk-
>>
>> >Negative, you said it includes Mike. I gave him special
>> >dispensation
>>
>> So, I guess what you said was just the same old, tired rhetorical
>> bullshit and doesn't apply to everyone - contrary to what you said.
>>
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk-
>
>Ge a clue, It applys mostly to people like you.
Of course it does, Brownie - especially since "people like (me)" take
your words and rub your nose in it so you, too, can appreciate the
fragrance. Even worse, "people like (me)" who have the termacity to
continue to skydive while you are removed to the sidelines - not even
that - you're not even at the game and haven't been in years - nor
will you ever be - f o r e v e r. Of course it does, Brownie - you
are so fucking owned.
>You don't want to
>invest any more in the sport than you have to.
Oh, I don't, eh? And how, pray tell, do you know that, Brownie?
Please relate where and when you ever saw me on a dropzone. Please
describe what I do and what I don't do as I go about displaying how I
"don't want to invest any more in the sport than (I) have to."
>Let somebody else pay
>the price, do the work. You got no coaching endorcement, No JM
>credentials....nothing but a camera. ou want credit for being a hero
Actually, all I want right now is to know why you would say "once you
cross the line from Amateur jumper to pro....Any purity you had is
lost, all you are is another cheap whore that will do anything up to
and including selling out the sport for money and you can never regain
your virginity," to anyone other than me or "people like (me)" - which
is what you did, Brownie - because you weren't talking to me at the
time - the record's clear, dummy. Of course, it was just rhetorical
bullshit - confirmed when you started crabwalking exceptions for other
skydivers who crossed that "line" yet, for whatever reason, you felt
were allowed to cross that "line," and were therefore excepted - thus
illustrating that it wasn't so much the "line" that was being crossed
which was important to you but the person crossing that "line" which
would determine whether and how chapped your ass was over it.
...bsrp
...jlk
> Whewww,, afte reading all that,,?? yoiu still look for the river to
> EXIT EXIT EXT,, we aint supposed to be here
True the Navy tricked if not out right fucked me. I should have been
leading a ships deck division and standing watches at sea-----not
sleeping on dirt floors beside my rifle in riverside villages, eating
bad food and scratching bug bights. You know how the military is. Once
you sign on the dotted line & somebody starts some shit overseas. Your
ass is grass 0~;-)
I don't know one veteran of any service, who ever said,,, "I like it
here" What are you wineing about you sissy navy man.
I preferred sea duty, somehow I got pulled into a River Adviser/Combat
slot.
Called my detailer at Bupers and he said, "sorry the computer keeps
spitting out your punch card." when we ask it for certain skills to
fill these slots ;( blame it on the fukking computer----man by then I
hadn't been to sea since 1964. My rate had
passed me by....but I kept passing those tests and making rank. Once
thought of signing my name rank and serial number to a blank
advancement test to see what happened but I chickened out. ;)P