Where's my coaching fee Jerry?
the unknown flailer
thats been dogging you all your skydiving career!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Woo Woo ;-*
sky...@pdq.net
wrote:
>I should get something for working with you on this pin fear problem
>thats been dogging you all your skydiving career!
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Woo Woo ;-*
Shit, getting a pincheck in an airplane isn't a bad idea - no problem
- but whoever helps you with your neurosis concerning anything outside
of your realm of consideration or experience is either rooted in fear
or just plain bad might get at least a couple of thesis out of it.
What I wanna know is, how'd you make it to the loading area what with
your clearly huge fear of having the pin fall out as you shambled
yourself over to it - which is understandable what with all the other
divers kicking you in the butt for sport. And who was the slacker who
taught you how to tighten a closing loop - you clearly didn't get that
lesson down.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On 3 Mar 2007 19:05:28 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I should get something for working with you on this pin fear problem
> >thats been dogging you all your skydiving career!
> >HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Woo Woo ;-*
>
> taught you how to tighten a closing loop - you clearly didn't get that
> lesson down.
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
It was the material I was using......Green para cord, wore like iron
but lacked elasticity. The elasticity is what really grips the
pin...tight helps but the material recoil against the pin is a key
factor. Shit more free info for you there kid, now about my coaching
fee....Part one: I want you to buy two cases of green bottle beer, ice
it down then hid it in your vehicle and at the end of the day hand it
out to struggling hang dog bad day-every day type novices dark thirty
or so, only if they made last load....none to your bootee boy cronies
or any of the little bums that miss last load on purpose to get a
first shot at the dz stash after the load lifts off.. Part two: Gather
up struggling novices and work with them....introduce creeping, offer
them free video once in a while if they need it (I leave if and when
they need it up to you since this is pro bono work). Organize some fun
jumps for them. And I mean the total losers in the air no one else
wants to waste a jump ticket on, change up their exits, drill them in
the mock up then go throw them out of the airplane....Whatever their
afraid of or don't want to do give it to them. Now no more freebies
for you till ya get yer ass in gear. I've been friendly showing a
caring interest in your progression to man hood up to now, helping you
out like this. Don't make me get on you hard boy, quit being a self
centered slacker and show some leadership around the dz! bsbs, your
friend-----> Uncle Snuffy ;)
sky...@pdq.net
wrote:
>On Mar 3, 10:38 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>> On 3 Mar 2007 19:05:28 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I should get something for working with you on this pin fear problem
>> >thats been dogging you all your skydiving career!
>> >HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Woo Woo ;-*
>>
>> who was the slacker who
>> taught you how to tighten a closing loop - you clearly didn't get that
>> lesson down.
>>
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk
>
>It was the material I was using......Green para cord, wore like iron
>but lacked elasticity.
>The elasticity is what really grips the
>pin...tight helps but the material recoil against the pin is a key
>factor.
Seems to me the key factor is knowing what the fuck you're doing and
if you don't, like in this "green para cord" example, you ask around
(riggers, more experienced skydivers, people who knew better than you)
and get some feedback before testing "this oughta work" up in the air.
So, you're saying you knew how to tighten a closing loop - just didn't
have a clue about what to use for a closing loop, and worse - had some
neurosis about asking?
>Shit more free info for you there kid,
Ya know, one of the things they teach skydivers is how to check if the
pin is too loose or not ~before~ you get to make that conclusion in
the midst of a horseshoe. What's your excuse? Wanna offer some
"info" on that?
>now about my coaching
>fee....Part one: I want you to buy two cases of green bottle beer, ice
>it down then hid it in your vehicle and at the end of the day hand it
>out to struggling hang dog bad day-every day type novices dark thirty
>or so, only if they made last load....none to your bootee boy cronies
>or any of the little bums that miss last load on purpose to get a
>first shot at the dz stash after the load lifts off..
You first, Jinnie. Walk that walk, dingleberry.
>Part two: Gather
>up struggling novices and work with them....introduce creeping, offer
>them free video once in a while if they need it (I leave if and when
>they need it up to you since this is pro bono work). Organize some fun
>jumps for them. And I mean the total losers in the air no one else
>wants to waste a jump ticket on, change up their exits, drill them in
>the mock up then go throw them out of the airplane....
You first -and ummm - they gotta creep in the mockup, too?
>Whatever their
>afraid of or don't want to do give it to them. Now no more freebies
>for you till ya get yer ass in gear.
Shit, Jinnie - put it like that you''ll just have to only throw such
rhetorically feel good advice out when I plunk down something for it
and that said - getting my "ass in gear" for the likes of a blowhard
like you is pretty much low down on the priorities list around, well -
the bottom so, damn, no more free advice for me and I'm not sure if
I'm capable of of "paying" whatever you're so supposedly charging when
you're not doling out those "freebies" so I guess I'm just gonna have
to deal with getting by without your advice but tell ya what - you
first, dingleberry.
>I've been friendly showing a
>caring interest in your progression to man hood up to now,
No, all you've been doing is trolling for attention and suckling to
anyone who gives you attention, no matter how caustic that attention
is, so you can feel better about yourself and your circumstances,
nothing more.
>helping you
>out like this.
Shit, with help like that it's a wonder I didn't forget how to stand
up a landing or haven't already face-planted myself into a runway and
out of the sport for good (knock wood). Yo, Jinnie - skydiving ain't
for everyone and it's a great deal of fun and I intend to continue for
as long as I am able (knock more wood) so, do us all a favor and keep
your "help" to yourself - there might be others who might greatly
benefit from you not helping them.
>Don't make me get on you hard boy,
Oh, so I might "make" you do something or other if I do or don't do
something? Never knew I had that much power over you, Jinnie - and I
don't want it, either. So, get a clue and some zen and realize no one
can "make" you do anything - it's up to you to do whatever shit you
wanna do (actually, just say you're gonna do - action ain't your
strong-point, that's for sure) and saying someone is gonna "make" you
do something is weak and a cop-out - certainly denies personal
responsibility. Here - I'll put it in words you understand: Ooooo -
like I am soooo scared. Jinnie's gonna "get on (me) hard." Heavens.
Is that what the gunny did to you after he got you all liquored up on
his bunk, Jinnie?
>quit being a self
>centered slacker and show some leadership around the dz! bsbs, your
>friend-----> Uncle Snuffy
Sure, Jinnie - whatever you say (not really), and ummm - you first.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On 3 Mar 2007 21:35:58 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Mar 3, 10:38 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
> >> On 3 Mar 2007 19:05:28 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >I should get something for working with you on this pin fear problem
> >> >thats been dogging you all your skydiving career!
> >> >HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Woo Woo ;-*
> if you don't, like in this "green para cord" example, you ask around
> (riggers, more experienced skydivers, people who knew better than you)
> and get some feedback before testing "this oughta work" up in the air.
> So, you're saying you knew how to tighten a closing loop - just didn't
> have a clue about what to use for a closing loop, and worse - had some
> neurosis about asking?
No I', saying it wore like iron and worked for a hundred jumps or more
before a bag in tow situation poped up....thats another thing kid, you
are afraid to experiment and I lay
this at the feet of your basic problem ~fear~
>
> Ya know, one of the things they teach skydivers is how to check if the
> pin is too loose or not ~before~ you get to make that conclusion in
> the midst of a horseshoe. What's your excuse? Wanna offer some
> "info" on that?
Yeah it fell out before, on the packing floor ~WHAT A RUSH~
> >now about my coaching
> >fee....Part one: I want you to buy two cases of green bottle beer, ice
> >it down then hid it in your vehicle and at the end of the day hand it
> >out to struggling hang dog bad day-every day type novices dark thirty
> >or so, only if they made last load....none to your bootee boy cronies
> >or any of the little bums that miss last load on purpose to get a
> >first shot at the dz stash after the load lifts off..
>
> You first, Jinnie. Walk that walk, dingleberry.
>
I'm not the one out there chizzling them
> >Part two: Gather
> >up struggling novices and work with them....introduce creeping, offer
> >them free video once in a while if they need it (I leave if and when
> >they need it up to you since this is pro bono work). Organize some fun
> >jumps for them. And I mean the total losers in the air no one else
> >wants to waste a jump ticket on, change up their exits, drill them in
> >the mock up then go throw them out of the airplane....
>
> You first -and ummm - they gotta creep in the mockup, too?
I can see why you try to claim other peoples jumps now, you don't know
how & where to use a creeper
> >Whatever their
> >afraid of or don't want to do give it to them. Now no more freebies
> >for you till ya get yer ass in gear.
>
> Shit, Jinnie - put it like that you''ll just have to only throw such
> rhetorically feel good advice out when I plunk down something for it
> and that said - getting my "ass in gear" for the likes of a blowhard
> like you
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk-
Blowhard? Youre the one that spews out a thousand words everytime I
jerk your chain kid. Pin fear do that for you? ;)
sky...@pdq.net
wrote:
>On Mar 4, 1:57 am, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>> On 3 Mar 2007 21:35:58 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Mar 3, 10:38 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>> >> On 3 Mar 2007 19:05:28 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >I should get something for working with you on this pin fear problem
>> >> >thats been dogging you all your skydiving career!
>> >> >HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Woo Woo ;-*
>> Seems to me the key factor is knowing what the fuck you're doing and
>> if you don't, like in this "green para cord" example, you ask around
>> (riggers, more experienced skydivers, people who knew better than you)
>> and get some feedback before testing "this oughta work" up in the air.
>> So, you're saying you knew how to tighten a closing loop - just didn't
>> have a clue about what to use for a closing loop, and worse - had some
>> neurosis about asking?
>
>No I', saying it wore like iron and worked for a hundred jumps or more
>before a bag in tow situation poped up...
Ya suppose maybe keeping after how tight the closing loop was, maybe
checking more than once every "hundred jumps" or even getting a
pincheck somewhere along the line, maybe even in an airplane, mighta
raised some sorta flag that it could be tighter and along with that,
perhaps trigger some sorta abstract thought process that a loose pin
keeping a container shut in a high speed environment has a higher
potential for a parachute out at an undesirable time than a
comparative potential for such resulting from a closing loop that is
perhaps tighter?
>.thats another thing kid, you
>are afraid to experiment and I lay
>this at the feet of your basic problem ~fear~
Oh, tell us another, Jinnie - like, you knew what you were doing when
you used the "green para cord" for a closing loop without maybe
getting a little feedback on the idea from someone else like a rigger
or someone experienced more certainly as compared to you) with
different materials for different parts of a container system. I
suppose, you installed that "green para cord" thinking that it might
well give you a "bag in tow situation" in "a hundred jumps or more,"
(and I suppose monkeys might well fly out of your ass) towards the
purpose of pure "experiment," you say, you admittedly used the very
same "green para cord" knowing what you were doing (perhaps predicting
that preemie right before it happened what with all that experimental
data you were collating, eh?) - and yet you are blaming at least one
of your preemies on this "experiment," and further - blundering
blindly past what is evident - that "experiment" or not, sure seems
that pincheck in the packing area followed by that pincheck in the
loading area sure didn't do much to eliminate the need for this lame
excuse of describing this preemie as due to an experiment. Suppose a
pincheck in the airplane is a bad idea? In other words, dingleberry,
you didn't know what the fuck you were doing, didn't check your gear
in any sort of heads up manner, had a preemie, and are now defensively
laying it off on a closing loop ~you~ installed and trying to deny or
squirm out of this evident novice and ill-informed blundering by
suggesting it was an "experiment," and anyone who calls you an idiot
is doing so not because you are an idiot, of course, but because they
have some sort of fear. On that note, I got more experiemental jumps
than you have ever made ever, but if it makes you feel better to think
you're some big fearless "experimenter" and anyone who pegs you as an
idiot and a dingleberry for making dumb excuses on the fly is just
being "fearfull," have a party. I know you ain't jumping and lots of
other people are - no experiment to it.
>>
>> Ya know, one of the things they teach skydivers is how to check if the
>> pin is too loose or not ~before~ you get to make that conclusion in
>> the midst of a horseshoe. What's your excuse? Wanna offer some
>> "info" on that?
>
>Yeah it fell out before, on the packing floor ~WHAT A RUSH~
Shit, Jinnie - didn't they even teach you how to close a container? I
mean, with the trouble you had keeping a container closed just moving
from the packing area to the loading area, as evidenced by your
frantic squeals for a pincheck upon arrival before you boarded, to
have it fall out like sometime between when it was closed and before
you even moved towards the loading area is definitely some piss poor
packing skills, at least in the container closing department - did
they even teach you how to pack or did they just try and give up after
you started telling them how it's done? How many malfuctions you pack
yourself?
>> >now about my coaching
>> >fee....Part one: I want you to buy two cases of green bottle beer, ice
>> >it down then hid it in your vehicle and at the end of the day hand it
>> >out to struggling hang dog bad day-every day type novices dark thirty
>> >or so, only if they made last load....none to your bootee boy cronies
>> >or any of the little bums that miss last load on purpose to get a
>> >first shot at the dz stash after the load lifts off..
>>
>> You first, Jinnie. Walk that walk, dingleberry.
>>
>
>I'm not the one out there chizzling them
Well, if that's the criteria then are you suggesting I am? If so,
what do you base this on? If this is just some more of your dumb,
self-affirming imagination without a shred of empiracal experience as
a base for this contention, no problem, just imagine I'm doing that
shit you want with the beer and get over it - that or get to a dz to
make sure it's happening. Gurgling for others to do what you want
them to do on some sort of electronic newsgroup ain't gonna cut it,
Jinnie - looks like it's up to your imagination to make it happen and
if you can't imagine it, then that's your problem - lack of zen,
basically.
>
>> >Part two: Gather
>> >up struggling novices and work with them....introduce creeping, offer
>> >them free video once in a while if they need it (I leave if and when
>> >they need it up to you since this is pro bono work). Organize some fun
>> >jumps for them. And I mean the total losers in the air no one else
>> >wants to waste a jump ticket on, change up their exits, drill them in
>> >the mock up then go throw them out of the airplane....
>>
>> You first -and ummm - they gotta creep in the mockup, too?
>
>
>I can see why you try to claim other peoples jumps now, you don't know
>how & where to use a creeper
Yo, Jinnie - not me claiming other people's jumps but then, now that
you mention trying "to claim other peoples jumps," what about those
two posts where you in one say the biggest formation you ever saw was
a 48way and you saw it from the ground and in another post say you
were on that formation? Maybe during the dive you were on a creeper
so you could say you were kinda on the dive but had gone a little low?
Whatever, still seems like a huge example of you, Jinnie, claiming
some other people's jump. Tsk tsk tsk. Don't believe I have the
goods on that? It's there, Jinnie - wanna see it---------> again?
>
>
>> >Whatever their
>> >afraid of or don't want to do give it to them. Now no more freebies
>> >for you till ya get yer ass in gear.
>>
>> Shit, Jinnie - put it like that you''ll just have to only throw such
>> rhetorically feel good advice out when I plunk down something for it
>> and that said - getting my "ass in gear" for the likes of a blowhard
>> like you
>
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk-
>
>Blowhard? Youre the one that spews out a thousand words everytime I
>jerk your chain kid. Pin fear do that for you?
Not at all but then, you're the one all wrapped up in bragging about
yourself, here, Jinnie. No one else but you gurgling ill-informed
crap and not just lying - but making really stupid, easily confirmable
lies. Not me self-proclaiming myself as on some sort of "mission to
rock the status quo," or even making excuses, like you, Jinnie. Not
me either freaking out and having hissies over some sort of pincheck
in an airplane which thus far has only been pegged as "inconsiderate"
when done at certain, ridiculous, times, either. Hell, if you prefer
to be called dinglberry, so be it - you don't have to whine about it.
...bsrp
...jlk
Big Jim
<<It was the material I was using......Green para cord, wore like iron
but lacked elasticity. The elasticity is what really grips the
pin...>>
Bullshit. Loops are made from a special Teflon impregnated twine. Pin is
held in place by mechanical friction primarily caused by the loop being
tight.
If there is anybody out there reading this newsgroup hoping to be informed
about skydiving, please, please disregard anything posted by "the unknown
flailer". This individual is someone that made some jumps a long time ago,
has nearly killed several people several times, including himself. He
finally frapped out of the sport due to his own negligence. He is a habitual
liar, a blowhard that has proven time and time again around here that he
knows nothing about anything, particularly skydiving. The guy is walking
death. If you like to bash old fools for self entertainment feel free to
take a shot. Or, if you care to amuse yourself watching others abuse him
while he eats it up and begs for more, be our guests.
But serious skydiving advice, you would be much better off getting it at
from the drop zone dog.
Mike Spurgeon
> <<It was the material I was using......Green para cord, wore like iron
> but lacked elasticity. The elasticity is what really grips the
> pin...>>
>
> Bullshit. Loops are made from a special Teflon impregnated twine.
I guess you never saw any of those I made from 'Green para cord',
commonly referred to as 550. Came in olive drab, red, green, and a few
other colors.
Probably the most common closing loop material for years.
Tommy
What is "green para cord" Mr. Flailer?
sky...@pdq.net
wrote:
Right, and I've made and used 550 loops myself but at no time did any
rigger suggest to me that it was guarranteed to give me a bag in tow
or maybe a preemie after a hundred jumps - like it was even
"guarranteed," as someone else has said. So, it seems that if 550 is
fine for closing loops then it's kinda hard to blame it for a
premature opening and and certainly doesn't deny getting a pincheck in
an aircraft isn't a bad idea. Curious, Mike - if you care to comment,
and I certainly won't hold whatever answer you give one way or the
other - but I am curious - as an experienced, active, and current
skydiver, like most of us here, I guess are, do you think it's a bad
idea? Sorry to put you possibly on the spot with the dingleberry
certainly taking whatever answer and running with it - and if you'd
rather ignore the question, that's okay, too. I never had a problem
with 550 but I never heard anyone blame it for a premature opening
until recently. What you got to say if you care to?
Jerry
Big Jim
"Mike Spurgeon" <mi...@spurgeon.net> wrote in message
news:45ECB573...@spurgeon.net...
Guess that was before my time, Mike. Seen a bunch but never saw one that
wasn't sort of off -white. Anything to add relative to the dingleberry's
"words of wisdom" about elasticity or pin checks.
Maybe this is new school too, but I was taught that no one ever died from a
pin check.
Mike Spurgeon
> Maybe this is new school too, but I was taught that no one ever died from a
> pin check.
It seems to be new school to start fiddling with another's rig without
asking.
Several years ago that might have brought on a bloody nose.
the unknown flailer
> Big Jim wrote:
> > <<It was the material I was using......Green para cord, wore like iron
> > but lacked elasticity. The elasticity is what really grips the
> > pin...>>
>
> > Bullshit. Loops are made from a special Teflon impregnated twine.
>
> I guess you never saw any of those I made from 'Green para cord',
> commonly referred to as 550. Came in olive drab, red, green, and a few
> other colors.
you get it as odd pieces out of the trash pile?
Yup, the outside one.
> Probably the most common closing loop material for years.
Who had the bag in tow, me or you? The shit was stiff and the loop was
so tight I had to use the old roll pack called the suitcase to pin it.
The white stretchy stuff most riggers used had a slight elasticity to
it to the extent that you could force the pin in and it clamped down
and held it....this para cord I scrounged up wouldn't lay flat and was
just a likely to roll or spit it out like a watermelon
seed....Needless to say I went back to the modern cord...a rigger made
closing loop only cost 75 cents in the mid 90's around Houston. I
guess you preferred 550 cuz it matched your raggedy old self huh? A
kind of stick with what you know thing, I just got tighter before
reaching 60 YO so proffered free......digging in dz trash piles is a
little to dz bum like to suit a Teamsters rep though. I suppose having
my reserve packed high might have effected
it, all I know is I enjoyed that jump, the locked bag stood me up
after I managed to throw out.....so I rode it down a while and cut
away at about 4 grand, the locked bag and lines hit about 20 ft from
where I touched down, the free bag was in someones back yard about 75
ft away. That's what I lived for, jumps on the edge of good sense.
It was the cost of a reserve repack that caused me to switch back to
the exceptable modern material for closing loops. A rigger said, damn
if you're going to use 550 why not ask me for fresh stuff off a
spool?" So I sez....."You just want to be in control." &
he goes "DAMN RIGHT, youre loonytoons someone has to keep an eye on
your penny saving schemes!" And he started giving me closing loops,
how about that?
~Now I'm going to help Jerry save on his rigging fee's so he can pay
me for coaching~
Don't think he considers a "Oh Shit, I thought I was dead jump!" a
wonderful jump though HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA the boy should take up
tiddlywinks.
the unknown flailer
> "Mike Spurgeon" <m...@spurgeon.net> wrote in message
Jerry might die for all that drama queen crap on the plane and begging
for one in the isle or at the door door during jump run. He needs to
have his shit together before he boards, the pin should have been
checked twice by then anyway! Its strictly psychological on his part
or perhaps its because he rarely packs his own and the psychosis just
runs deeper because of it! I know dieing young can be a bitch but
dieing because of someone else's mistake rather than your own seems
worse for some reason. Perhaps that lies latent in his subconscious
and thats why he panics
on jump run........"oh my god, my pin, my pin----is it falling out?"
<snicker>
the unknown flailer
hahahahaha yep I remeber when a JM/I and ST&A got together at Waller
and started pushing pin checks in the loading area, so right away
wanting to be helpful the students and Novices started pawing other
peoples flaps....Many of the crowd out of the 70's & 80's came
unglued! Muttering "well if I didn't have one half way out before,
I DO NOW DAMMIT!" So I'm just rolling and egging it on, "hey kid, did
you give that old guy wearing the Wonder Hog over ther a pin check
yet?" People screaming and slapping at the newbies, me howling with
laughter. Shit the kid was so shook up he couldn't even tuck a flap
back in right. So the DZO asked the JM/I "did you start this
squabbling and slapping shit? And he goes, "no its snuffys fault!"
Well pin checks are good idea's so the DZO sez, ask first and someone
bring me that roll of 100mph tape,
I'm going to tape snuffys mouth shut.....Aw well, he was right I
didn't like anybody walking up out of the blue and pulling my pin flap
up either, Due to several custom features in packing style and choices
on closing loops, my bag could have fell out in the loading area! ;)
the unknown flailer
> On Mar 4, 12:35?am, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 3, 10:38 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>
> > > On 3 Mar 2007 19:05:28 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > >I should get something for working with you on this pin fear problem
> > > >thats been dogging you all your skydiving career!
>
> What is "green para cord" Mr. Flailer?- Hide quoted text -
>
550 para cord? Slightly thicker than the stuff their using for the
white or off white closing loops now....I hesitate to say 550 because
this shit was a little off, almost bridle.....faded green because it
had been laying outside in the trash pile no telling how long...no use
bitching it got me out the door and away from the plane. My advice is
don't be cheap when it comes to women, horses, dogs or skydiving shit
son. Ya might not be as lucky as me. Yeah, go first class....just
don't get fruity about it
like certain GU Video geeks I'm coaching into manhood. 0~;)
sky...@pdq.net
wrote:
>Big Jim wrote:
Ya know, seriously, I haven't seen that - might be just the way of
things in Texas, I guess but I dunno. I do know the operational
phrase when people are eyeballing rigs on the base leg or wherever is
sometimes people will ask me if I want a pincheck and once, like ten
years ago, some newer jumper started to check it out on his own and I
told him that wasn't the way it was done - the guy had seen other
people doing it and just assumed that's what happened, I guess.
...bsrp
...jlk
sky...@pdq.net
wrote:
>On Mar 5, 6:29 pm, Mike Spurgeon <m...@spurgeon.net> wrote:
>> Big Jim wrote:
>> > <<It was the material I was using......Green para cord, wore like iron
>> > but lacked elasticity. The elasticity is what really grips the
>> > pin...>>
>>
>> > Bullshit. Loops are made from a special Teflon impregnated twine.
>>
>> I guess you never saw any of those I made from 'Green para cord',
>> commonly referred to as 550. Came in olive drab, red, green, and a few
>> other colors.
>
>you get it as odd pieces out of the trash pile?
>
>Yup, the outside one.
>
>> Probably the most common closing loop material for years.
>
>Who had the bag in tow, me or you? The shit was stiff and the loop was
>so tight I had to use the old roll pack called the suitcase to pin it.
>The white stretchy stuff most riggers used had a slight elasticity to
>it to the extent that you could force the pin in and it clamped down
>and held it....this para cord I scrounged up wouldn't lay flat and was
>just a likely to roll or spit it out like a watermelon
>seed....Needless to say I went back to the modern cord...a rigger made
>closing loop only cost 75 cents in the mid 90's around Houston.
You had to ~pay~ for 'em? Every rigger or packer I ever knew would
just hand one out if they had one around - I mean, the most I would
ever ask for if I gave one away was if they had some beer to give me
one later and if they didn't, no big deal.
>I
>guess you preferred 550 cuz it matched your raggedy old self huh? A
>kind of stick with what you know thing, I just got tighter before
>reaching 60 YO so proffered free......digging in dz trash piles is a
>little to dz bum like to suit a Teamsters rep though. I suppose having
>my reserve packed high might have effected
>it, all I know is I enjoyed that jump, the locked bag stood me up
>after I managed to throw out.....so I rode it down a while and cut
>away at about 4 grand, the locked bag and lines hit about 20 ft from
>where I touched down, the free bag was in someones back yard about 75
>ft away. That's what I lived for, jumps on the edge of good sense.
>It was the cost of a reserve repack that caused me to switch back to
>the exceptable modern material for closing loops. A rigger said, damn
>if you're going to use 550 why not ask me for fresh stuff off a
>spool?" So I sez....."You just want to be in control." &
>he goes "DAMN RIGHT, youre loonytoons someone has to keep an eye on
>your penny saving schemes!" And he started giving me closing loops,
>how about that?
Saved 75 cents - wow - windfall.
>~Now I'm going to help Jerry save on his rigging fee's so he can pay
>me for coaching~
Don't you worry your pretty little head, Jinnie - I just use riggers
for reserve repacks and advice and answers for questions but if you
wanna be my packing weight, works for me.
>Don't think he considers a "Oh Shit, I thought I was dead jump!" a
>wonderful jump though HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA the boy should take up
>tiddlywinks.
Naw, every reserve ride (three) I've had or almost-reserve ride (a few
more than that) was awesome. The first was kickass because I had a
little over 1300 jumps and had been jumping for about 4 years so it
was a, "Wow, finally!" and the next was "here we go again," while the
3rd was a high speed, container lock at a demo where it was, "hope
this doesn't hurt." Had a couple of camera on my head and wasn't
looking forwards to a reserve deployment at terminal - it beat the
alternative, though. Still remembered to deploy my colorful
streamers for the crowd and caught some laughter from other jumpers
for showing off for the crowd and being down first when I was supposed
to be the last to land. On that note, Jinnie, maybe you should take
up posting to the RV newsgroup where you won't get busted for
ignorance until you open your mouth about RV's probably.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 02:32:13 GMT, Mike Spurgeon <m...@spurgeon.net>
It goes thru phases, was pretty pevalent at one time out at Waller.
The Training program was being run by a JM/I who was one hell of a
Master Rigger also and he was pushing pin checks so the people coming
off student status got carried away.
Its like the safety day thing, you don't see people doing something
then the DZ will have a safety day and shit will pick up for a few
weeks and then people go back to their old ways. Pin checks are easy,
many flexible people can reach around and check their own pin. So a
kid, well you know 51 jump wonders....hell this is easy, I can do this
so wanting to be friendly and show they care they start freaking out
other skydivers by snatching and grabbing without asking like kids
often do....So wiser heads started pussing the eyeball other peoples
gear for things mis routed, unbuckled, unsnapped, D ring turned under?
etc.... to keep the fist fights down. Go ahead and point it out but
don't walk up and start grabbing anything or open a flap to see
anything without asking and that worked great. Alert eyeballing gear
by skydivers could have saved that girl in Gonzles Lousiana years
ago. and a few others no doubt. Except for Lodi Mike, if your just off
student status or new to the sport feel free to walk up and grap his
flaps or start adjusting his harness hahahahahaha Whoaaaaaa, put up a
Jpeg of that hahahahahaha I gotta see it to believe it!!!!!! Or better
yet, if your on the Otter with Jerry....as soon as door is shouted &
divers start moving around....lean over and tap him on the shoulder
then say"Hey man, I think your pin is loose!" HAW HAW HAW
HOHOHOHAHAHAHAHA if you can do it with a straight face that is, then
when he flips out and starts screaming just say "Hey snuffys worried
about you and your pin!" 0~;)
sky...@pdq.net
wrote:
>On Mar 5, 7:59 pm, "Big Jim" <lisaj...@the-beach.net> wrote:
>> "Mike Spurgeon" <m...@spurgeon.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:45ECB573...@spurgeon.net...
>>
>> > Big Jim wrote:
>> >> <<It was the material I was using......Green para cord, wore like iron
>> >> but lacked elasticity. The elasticity is what really grips the
>> >> pin...>>
>>
>> >> Bullshit. Loops are made from a special Teflon impregnated twine.
>>
>> > I guess you never saw any of those I made from 'Green para cord', commonly
>> > referred to as 550. Came in olive drab, red, green, and a few other
>> > colors.
>>
>> > Probably the most common closing loop material for years.
>>
>> Guess that was before my time, Mike. Seen a bunch but never saw one that
>> wasn't sort of off -white. Anything to add relative to the dingleberry's
>> "words of wisdom" about elasticity or pin checks.
>>
>> Maybe this is new school too, but I was taught that no one ever died from a
>> pin check.
>
>Jerry might die for all that drama queen crap on the plane and begging
>for one in the isle or at the door door during jump run.
That is, if it ever happened like that which isn't the case - this
case of yours of course being just stupid and affirming imagination on
your part. But then, it's a wonder you didn't die of some head trauma
with all those skydivers aiming boots at your ass as you shambled your
way thorugh that hostile to pin environment between packing and
loading - not to mention bopping around the loading area squealing for
a pincheck before you boarded.
>He needs to
>have his shit together before he boards, the pin should have been
>checked twice by then anyway!
You know it - with all the shit that can happen to a pin from the
moment the rig is on to the moment you arrive in the loading area -
its a wonder bags aren't falling out left and right on that last few
feet into the comparative safety of the loading area, where the forces
which can shift a pin from its loop greatly drop off from where they
were on that grueling and punishing journey travelled from packing.
You had a bag fall out in the loading area, Jinnie? Was it due to a
shitty check on your part before you put the rig on or did some of all
those jumpers aiming swift kicks at your ass miss and knock the pin
loose? That how it went?
>Its strictly psychological on his part
>or perhaps its because he rarely packs his own and the psychosis just
>runs deeper because of it!
No, it's not psychological at all beyond thinking things through and
learning from experience and the experiences of others. It's also a
matter of physics. A pin can move and has been moved by forces
greater than the force holding it in place, under the flap, inside the
loop, up against the top flap grommett. Sitting with a rig against a
bulkhead or another person and you move a certain way or the plane
bumps a certain way or the person it's leaning against moves a certain
way - all are capable and have demonstrated the capacity to exert
greater force against a pin than the force holding the pin in place
and move it - sometimes even to the point to where the pin is no
longer in the loop - and this isn't suppositition wrought in fear, as
you would paint it but fact based on simple physics and by real life
occurances - it's happened and not just a single incidence or two or
three but many times over the years. It's rare in the sense that I've
seen someone move from sitting to kneeling, lean forwards, and their
bag starts to fall out - I've seen that maybe a half a dozen times in
3600 jumps over eleven years. I've also see a couple two or three
videos where someone climbs out and their shit falls out and off they
go. Seen pictures and videos of people dangling from aircraft
horizontal stablizers in flight but one thing I've never seen is
someone have a preemie in the plane or out the door after someone had
checked their pin in the airplane. I've also seen pinchecks in the
airplane catch a pin under a tight loop that was just barely in and
subsequently pushed back to where it should be after being checked -
no check on the ground is gonna fix a problem discovered or
undiscovered in the air. Hence, getting a pincheck inside an airplane
is not a bad thing to do. You wanna paint it as due to fear but you
might as well paint someone doing a handle check as doing it out of
fear - they should know their emergency procedures and should know how
to pack so why should they bother to check, eh? Comes down to if you
check on the ground and only there - you might know the pin is there
and maybe the person who did the check for you might know it's there
but later in the airplane, say after the pin has been subjected to a
force in the right place greater than the force holding the pin in
place - which is not unheard of in the slightest - the pin may not
know it's there. You got a firearm and you know it's unloaded - at
least it was the last time you checked it. You wanna try the trigger
action out so do you just point it somewhere or nowhere and give that
trigger a pull? I don't think so - at least if you aren't an idiot.
You open the chamber and check it out. That's what I'm talking about.
Making sure the gun is unloaded before you try out the trigger action,
unless you're wanting to shoot something, is not a bad idea.
>I know dieing young can be a bitch but
>dieing because of someone else's mistake rather than your own seems
>worse for some reason.
Which might have been one of the many valid points that would have
come down on your head when you tracked after that formation ahead of
you and opened in their airspace - come down on your head that is, if
you hadn't thrown your shit in the car the moment you got down and
buggered off, eh?
>Perhaps that lies latent in his subconscious
>and thats why he panics
>on jump run........"oh my god, my pin, my pin----is it falling out?"
Ya know Jinnie - as often as you imagine the above scenario still
hasn't done much to establish any reality to the scenario but then,
there was that time where you were gargling against pinchecks in the
airplane because it might upset the CG in the aircraft - what was that
about? I mean, you're wearing a parachute...."Auuuuughhhh!!! Keep
still!!! Lean the slightest little bit and we're all gonna
Diiiiiiiiiiiiiie!!!" Now, this is just imagination of course but it's
a much shorter stretch of imagination to imagine you freaking out over
CG because someone is getting a pincheck - and you did offer CG
argument as a reason against, once upon a time - don't believe me and
I'll prove it - than the stretch you are making regarding some
supposedly irrational fear of a pin falling out because I suggest
getting a pincheck in the airplane is not a bad idea, and further -
back up the assertion with cold, hard facts, emperical in nature, as
opposed to the suppostional and without historical basis of a pilot
losing the aircraft because some jumper shifted for a pincheck - as
you suggested might occur, apparently with some fear.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On 5 Mar 2007 20:03:11 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
stop the experimenting Gee talk about a lack of reading
comprehension....Used to freak them out when I'd pretend to start
sewing on my canopy or harness.....bought a travelers sewing kit and
used to pull it out if a rigger was packing near me then purse my lips
and start threading a needle....Their hair would stand straight up on
their head, Yowee!
Took people a while to get used to my odd sense of humor, some never
did.
>
> >I
> >guess you preferred 550 cuz it matched your raggedy old self huh? A
> >kind of stick with what you know thing, I just got tighter before
> >reaching 60 YO so proffered free......digging in dz trash piles is a
> >little to dz bum like to suit a Teamsters rep though. I suppose having
> >my reserve packed high might have effected
> >it, all I know is I enjoyed that jump, the locked bag stood me up
> >after I managed to throw out.....so I rode it down a while and cut
> >away at about 4 grand, the locked bag and lines hit about 20 ft from
> >where I touched down, the free bag was in someones back yard about 75
> >ft away. That's what I lived for, jumps on the edge of good sense.
> >It was the cost of a reserve repack that caused me to switch back to
> >if you're going to use 550 why not ask me for fresh stuff off a
> >spool?" So I sez....."You just want to be in control." &
> >he goes "DAMN RIGHT, youre loonytoons someone has to keep an eye on
> >your penny saving schemes!" And he started giving me closing loops,
> >how about that?
>
> Saved 75 cents - wow - windfall.
>
> >~Now I'm going to help Jerry save on his rigging fee's so he can pay
> >me for coaching~
>
> Don't you worry your pretty little head, Jinnie - I just use riggers
> for reserve repacks and advice and answers for questions but if you
> wanna be my packing weight, works for me.
And here I thought we was finally bonding, you don't trust my
advantaged rigging ideas?
>
> >Don't think he considers a "Oh Shit, I thought I was dead jump!" a
> >wonderful jump though HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA the boy should take up
> >tiddlywinks.
>
> Naw, every reserve ride (three)
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk-
THREE???? And you don't trust my rigging and packing ideas?, I only
had two and one was that bag in tow, the other was flying through my
own lines due to bad body position coming off a down track off a zoo
load. Shit I was plum safe compared to your shit flying and shit
packing skills. Don't tell no one I'm kinda coaching you! WHAT A
CLUMSY ASSHOLE!!! Could be those booties causing the bad openings
wadda you think?? ;)
sky...@pdq.net
wrote:
>On Mar 5, 10:52 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>> On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 02:32:13 GMT, Mike Spurgeon <m...@spurgeon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Big Jim wrote:
>>
>> >> Maybe this is new school too, but I was taught that no one ever died from a
>> >> pin check.
>>
>> >It seems to be new school to start fiddling with another's rig without
>> >asking.
>>
>> >Several years ago that might have brought on a bloody nose.
>>
>> Ya know, seriously, I haven't seen that - might be just the way of
>> things in Texas, I guess but I dunno. I do know the operational
>> phrase when people are eyeballing rigs on the base leg or wherever is
>> sometimes people will ask me if I want a pincheck and once, like ten
>> years ago, some newer jumper started to check it out on his own and I
>> told him that wasn't the way it was done - the guy had seen other
>> people doing it and just assumed that's what happened, I guess.
>>
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk
>
>
>It goes thru phases, was pretty pevalent at one time out at Waller.
It does? So, years ago, back during that short period when you were
jumping there were "phases." Doesn't say too much for skydivers back
then - reaching for other people's gear - didn't anyone bother to tell
'em the way things work? Great job looking after the new jumpers back
then, eh?
>The Training program was being run by a JM/I who was one hell of a
>Master Rigger also and he was pushing pin checks so the people coming
>off student status got carried away.
These were the same jumpers under the care of the "Old D's",eh? No
small wonder some coaching program came into being with piss poor
stewardship like that.
>Its like the safety day thing, you don't see people doing something
>then the DZ will have a safety day and shit will pick up for a few
>weeks and then people go back to their old ways.
Not the safety days I've seen - pretty much people set in their ways
keep to their ways - often with good reason - and new jumpers learn
some things and think about some scennarios that perhaps they hadn't
had the time or enough distraction control to think through before -
and if they're smart they pick up good habits. I still do essentially
the same rig check that was taught to me right before my first solo
(jump #8). I kinda knew what to check for watching my JM's and
listening to them but I aksed Don Olsen what he does and he showed me
and that's still with me to this day.
>Pin checks are easy,
>many flexible people can reach around and check their own pin. So a
>kid, well you know 51 jump wonders....hell this is easy, I can do this
>so wanting to be friendly and show they care they start freaking out
>other skydivers by snatching and grabbing without asking like kids
>often do..
I'm still thinking you did this once in the SPX otter and got
bitch-slapped for it which is why you're so down on checking out the
pin while in the airplane.
>..So wiser heads started pussing the eyeball other peoples
>gear for things mis routed, unbuckled, unsnapped, D ring turned under?
>etc.... to keep the fist fights down.
"Started" pushing - far as I know this was something that has a long a
deep history in parachuting. I mean, it was certainly meantioned when
I was learning which wasn't that long ago but also mentioned at the
time when this idea was explained to me by a JM, was that it's not a
bad idea and something that skydvers always do.
>Go ahead and point it out but
>don't walk up and start grabbing anything or open a flap to see
>anything without asking and that worked great.
During those bigways at ZHills I watched a guy's reserve flap get
popped open when the door came up so I was about 2/3rds of the way up
the aisle and called over to someone who was closer and told him to
tell that guy his reserve flap was open - no one freaked out but it
was jumprun and the problem got fixed immediately - he was gonna float
and the guy next to him yelled (the door was open) at him his reserve
flap was open as he fixed it - no asking involved - kinda late for
that and he was in the base - woulda sucked to lose him at that point,
last jump of the day. A few hours later I'm in the bar shooting the
shit with Phantom and Bartender Paul and one of the other floaters or
first divers came up and asked if I was the guy who pointed out the
reserve flap and I said yeah and he was like, "Let me buy you a beer!
That was great!" I told him anyone would do it and I was just glad it
didn't lead to any problems the coulda fucked up the dive or worse.
Fuck yeah I took that beer but I bought the next round.
>Alert eyeballing gear
>by skydivers could have saved that girl in Gonzles Lousiana years
>ago. and a few others no doubt.
Shit, Jinnie - I'm thinking all this gear eyeballing is kinda being
made out of fear. What do you think? I mean, if you can get that
neuron firing, that is.
>Except for Lodi Mike, if your just off
>student status or new to the sport feel free to walk up and grap his
>flaps or start adjusting his harness hahahahahaha Whoaaaaaa, put up a
>Jpeg of that hahahahahaha I gotta see it to believe it!!!!!! Or better
>yet, if your on the Otter with Jerry....as soon as door is shouted &
>divers start moving around....lean over and tap him on the shoulder
>then say"Hey man, I think your pin is loose!" HAW HAW HAW
>HOHOHOHAHAHAHAHA if you can do it with a straight face that is, then
>when he flips out and starts screaming just say "Hey snuffys worried
>about you and your pin!"
Actually, if that were the case it would be a matter, of, "It is? Can
you fix it?" No big deal. Get out of the way of people wanting to
exit, get the problem fixed, and move on. I'm just imagining the
pilot watching you lift your bulk off your ass to your knees and
jinking the yoke a little - maybe even stall the plane briefly - "THE
CG! THE CG!!! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIIIIIIIIIIE!!!" Shit too funny!
...bsrp
...jlk
sky...@pdq.net
wrote:
>On Mar 5, 6:31 pm, "Tommy" <c-roc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Shit, Jinnie - I'd say it's possible you're teaching by example - I
mean, I know bigtime how fruity and stupid that blue with fancy yellow
slash running from one shoulder down to the opposite wrist custom
sewn BodySport looked as well as what comes of not thinking things
through - how it can break limbs, put dingleberries in the hospital -
even out of the sport forever. Then there's the quotient of how much
you know about skydiving being remarkably (not really - it makes
sense) linked with how often you go to dropzones and even how current
you are. I mean, you aren't current, and don't go to dropzones and as
expected, what you gargle in here clearly illustrates how little you
actually know - not that this stops you from pretending you do, which
is more of a lesson in the pitfalls of hubris and arrogance, as well
as a spectacle of pathetic proportions, so the lesson from that is to
keep on jumping for as long as possible, if you wanna know about
skydiving, the dropzone is a good place to start, and your examples,
and often demonstrated examples, in here are a strong, often smelly
reminder of one of the more important maxims in skydiving - never
promise more than you can deliver.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On 5 Mar 2007 20:16:21 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Mar 5, 7:59 pm, "Big Jim" <lisaj...@the-beach.net> wrote:
> >> "Mike Spurgeon" <m...@spurgeon.net> wrote in message
>
> >>news:45ECB573...@spurgeon.net...
>
> >> > Big Jim wrote:
> >> >> <<It was the material I was using......Green para cord, wore like iron
> >> >> but lacked elasticity. The elasticity is what really grips the
> >> >> pin...>>
>
> >> >> Bullshit. Loops are made from a special Teflon impregnated twine.
>
> >> > I guess you never saw any of those I made from 'Green para cord', commonly
> >> > referred to as 550. Came in olive drab, red, green, and a few other
> >> > colors.
>
> >> > Probably the most common closing loop material for years.
>
> >> Guess that was before my time, Mike. Seen a bunch but never saw one that
> >> wasn't sort of off -white. Anything to add relative to the dingleberry's
> >> "words of wisdom" about elasticity or pin checks.
>
> >> Maybe this is new school too, but I was taught that no one ever died from a
> >> pin check.
>
> >Jerry might die for all that drama queen crap on the plane and begging
> >for one in the isle or at the door door during jump run.
should have been
> >checked twice by then anyway!
>
> You know it - with all the shit that can happen to a pin from the
> moment the rig is on to the moment you arrive in the loading area -
> its a wonder bags aren't falling out left and right on that last few
> feet into the comparative safety of the loading area, where the forces
> which can shift a pin from its loop greatly drop off from where they
> were on that grueling and punishing journey travelled from packing.
Yawl quit playing grab ass in the loading area or walking to it and
theirs no problem
> You had a bag fall out in the loading area, Jinnie?
No but I've seen one fall out, its a hoot, talk about red
faced......the kid couldn't have been more embarrassed if his zipper
was down in Church.....he had about 800 jumps too. Complacency was the
culprit I'm thinking.....Yours is mental though.
> No, it's not psychological at all beyond thinking things through and
> learning from experience and the experiences of others. It's also a
> matter of physics. A pin can move and has been moved by forces
> greater than the force holding it in place, under the flap, inside the
> loop, up against the top flap grommett. Sitting with a rig against a
> bulkhead or another person and you move a certain way or the plane
> bumps a certain way or the person it's leaning against moves a certain
> way - all are capable and have demonstrated the capacity to exert
> greater force against a pin than the force holding the pin in place
> and move it - sometimes even to the point to where the pin is no
> longer in the loop -
bullshit, your just clumsy....a well seated pin covered by a well
tucked flap? Well hell it would just about take the force of a bounce
to get it out and only then because the closing loop broke on impact
probably....you need to learn to sit still on the jump plane Mary
Poppins.....Another thing.....by now you should be practiced enough to
reach around and check your own pin by feel.....What the fuck is going
on out there, yawl rasslin each other on the way to altitude?
and this isn't suppositition wrought in fear, as
> you would paint it but fact based on simple physics and by real life
> occurances - it's happened and not just a single incidence or two or
> three but many times over the years. It's rare in the sense that I've
> seen someone move from sitting to kneeling, lean forwards, and their
> bag starts to fall out - I've seen that maybe a half a dozen times in
> 3600 jumps over eleven years. I've also see a couple two or three
> videos where someone climbs out and their shit falls out and off they
> go. Seen pictures and videos of people dangling from aircraft
> horizontal stablizers in flight but one thing I've never seen is
> someone have a preemie in the plane or out the door after someone had
> checked their pin in the airplane. I've also seen pinchecks in the
> airplane catch a pin under a tight loop that was just barely in and
> subsequently pushed back to where it should be after being checked -
> no check on the ground is gonna fix a problem discovered or
> undiscovered in the air. Hence, getting a pincheck inside an airplane
> is not a bad thing to do. You wanna paint it as due to fear but you
> might as well paint someone doing a handle check as doing it out of
> fear
Well hell boy I hope you can feel your own handles and see if their
right......you should be protecting them in a crowded situations
anyway......Maybe you need to hire a body guard to get you and your
rig safely out to & on the plane then perhaps a JM or rigger to ride
along and make sure your gear is right at altitude......You sound kind
of helpless and fear ridden to me-----, GET A GRIP!!! now give me 75
push ups for projecting fear bootie boy!
> ...jlk- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
Geezeus what a titty baby
sky...@pdq.net
wrote:
>On Mar 5, 11:07 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
Right and they were selling them up to that point - bunch a money
grubbing bottom feeders back in the early to mid 90's sounds like to
me.
>Gee talk about a lack of reading
>comprehension...
Yo, Jinnie - wanna tell us the difference again between one email
address and another?
>.Used to freak them out when I'd pretend to start
>sewing on my canopy or harness.....bought a travelers sewing kit and
>used to pull it out if a rigger was packing near me then purse my lips
>and start threading a needle....Their hair would stand straight up on
>their head, Yowee!
>Took people a while to get used to my odd sense of humor, some never
>did.
Sounds like a pathetic attention getting device to me - kind of a cry
for help. Freak people out and they give you attention. Brilliant.
Shit Jinnie, as I've said before, how you arrive at your opinions and
conclusions has often been proven to be markedly flawed.
>you don't trust my
>advantaged rigging ideas?
As far as I can shot-put a Buick but I got no problem jumping a rig
with one of your precious closing loops in it. Make it happen like
you say you're gonna. Until then I'll just keep on making my own.
>>
>> >Don't think he considers a "Oh Shit, I thought I was dead jump!" a
>> >wonderful jump though HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA the boy should take up
>> >tiddlywinks.
>>
>> Naw, every reserve ride (three)
>
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk-
>
>THREE???? And you don't trust my rigging and packing ideas?,
Sure, I trust them to be stupid and poorly thought out - like all your
endeavors and ideas - at least as related in here, Jinnie.
>I only
>had two and one was that bag in tow,
Let's see, Jinnie, let's say you had 500 jumps though the number is
closer to three hundred That would mean one every 250 jumps at the
most. Now, I have three reserve rides in a little over 3600 jumps -
that would be one every 1200 jumps, more or less. Dig it - seems you
were five times more likely to pack yourself a malfunction than me,
Jinnie - and you're one stupid boot, dingleberry. But then, there's
at least a little evidence you admitted to at least three - let's take
a look, dumbass:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.skydiving/msg/e874ef914dcb5058?hl=en&
"I had 2 reserve rides with the Raven and 1 on a Fury 220, "
* * *
So, if you made 500 jumps (really a lot closer to 300) that would mean
you had a reserve ride every 160-170 jumps - actually the number is
closer to every 100 jumps. So, let's see, 3 reserve rides over 7
years at an average of one every hundred or so jumps vs. 3 reserve
rides over eleven years at one every 1200 jumps. Yo, Jinnie - aside
from stepping in it again for being busted for lies (again), you're
just one huge dumbfuck for writing stuff only because you think it
sounds good as opposed to representing reality - but then, reality
never supported a case where you ended up smelling like roses - quite
the opposite, eh?
>the other was flying through my
>own lines due to bad body position coming off a down track off a zoo
>load.
What was the 3rd, dingleberry?
>Shit I was plum safe compared to your shit flying and shit
>packing skills.
Actually, packing a malfunction every hundred or so jumps over seven
years ain't particularly prolific in the packing skills department,
Jinnie - certainly as compared to one every 1200 or so jumps over
eleven years. And, umm - unlike you, none of my malfunctions were
ever "caused" by " flying through my own lines due to bad body
position coming off a down track." So, wanna try again on that "shit
flying and shit packing skills" angle, shitforbrains?
>Don't tell no one I'm kinda coaching you!
Hell, yeah - I've never watched you pack and maybe that's why I ain't
going to the reserve every hundred or so jumps (knock wood) - you are
clearly the best coach to never have around.
>WHAT A
>CLUMSY ASSHOLE!!!
Not apparently as clumsy as you, Jinnie - not by a longshot - the
numbers don't lie. The numbers aren't like you and they seem to not
like you. How do you like those numbers, Jinnie?
You: Reserve ride every hundred or so jumps - three (at least) over
seven years
Me: Reserve ride every 1200 or so jumps - three (total) over eleven
years.
>Could be those booties causing the bad openings
>wadda you think??
Nope, cause I wasn't in booties on all of them but certainly none of
them were caused by me " flying through my own lines due to bad body
position coming off a down track."
That was too easy, Jinnie - is the ange now to regularly step in it so
much that I might take pity? I mean, this whole saying you only had
two reserve rides when you also said you had three and this idea that
you had "two" over a few hundred jumps while I had three over
thousands indicates some sort of pissing contest you can crow about is
just remarkably pathetic. You're really just almost too sad for
laughter - but not quite - dumbass. Hahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa!!!! Shit
too funny!!!
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On 5 Mar 2007 22:14:29 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
> wrote:
> >> >Who had the bag in tow, me or you? The shit was stiff and the loop was
> >> >so tight I had to use the old roll pack called the suitcase to pin it.
> >> >The white stretchy stuff most riggers used had a slight elasticity to
> >> >it to the extent that you could force the pin in and it clamped down
> >> >and held it....this para cord I scrounged up wouldn't lay flat and was
> >> >just a likely to roll or spit it out like a watermelon
> >> >seed....Needless to say I went back to the modern cord...a rigger made
> >> >closing loop only cost 75 cents in the mid 90's around Houston.
>
> >> You had to ~pay~ for 'em? Every rigger or packer I ever knew would
> >> just hand one out if they had one around - I mean, the most I would
> >> ever ask for if I gave one away was if they had some beer to give me
> >> one later and if they didn't, no big deal.
I dunno what the closing loop thing was about, people hated to change
them out in the early 90's.......You would see people down on their
hands and knee's hovering over a pinned container counting strands.
"Wadda you think, one more in it? dunno it might make it to the end of
the day" Same way with changing out rubber stows. Dick kept a open box
of them on the manifest table to encourage the change outs and keep
skydivers moving rather than fixating. I bought a rig with Spectra
lines and it eat tube stows like candy. The kid with 800 jumps who's
bag fell out in the loading area? Pin didn't slip out, the closing
loop broke....Pushing the boundaries on everything....I think that is
what it may have been about. Skydiving can get pretty boring if
everything is going your way, well except for you bootie whore types
who need to feed big egos.
Same way with just up and quitting, saw people in their early 40's
with 3,000 jumps or so just hang it up and take up something else like
sailing. The USPA did a survey and said the average time to remain in
sport at the time was 7 years, yet you could look around and see
people who had been around 15 or 20 years. I'm thinking those were
either making money in the sport or had no life though.
> > read the end of that last post, they started giving them to me to
> >stop the experimenting
>
> Right and they were selling them up to that point - bunch a money
> grubbing bottom feeders back in the early to mid 90's sounds like to
> me.
Oh yeah, they have always been around.....Anytime people with money or
good credit congregate, people wanting to relieve them of it are going
to show up......but no not like you, they generally were still giving
value for money or had more than one thing to offer at the end of the
20th century.
tsk tsk tsk, learn to trust the pre boarding pin check or check your
own pin on the plane kid and maybe I'll quit picking on you. You are
to self centered....On the climb
other divers are thinking of the exit order or the jump and perhaps
shooting the shit and seeing to their own gear. Then here you go. "my
pin, my pin ohhhhhh my pin, see if its falling out? You are bought and
paid for to provide a service like a whore....Don't bother the paying
customers with your angst you young puss
bsbs ;-*
the unknown flailer
> On Mar 5, 11:03?pm, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 5, 6:29 pm, Mike Spurgeon <m...@spurgeon.net> wrote:
>
> > > Big Jim wrote:
> > > > <<It was the material I was using......Green para cord, wore like iron
> > > > but lacked elasticity. The elasticity is what really grips the
> > > > pin...>>
>
>
> > > I guess you never saw any of those I made from 'Green para cord',
> > > other colors.
>
> > you get it as odd pieces out of the trash pile?
>
> > Yup, the outside one.
>
> > > Probably the most common closing loop material for years.
>
> > Who had the bag in tow, me or you? The shit was stiff and the loop was
> > so tight I had to use the old roll pack called the suitcase to pin it.
> > The white stretchy stuff most riggers used had a slight elasticity to
> > it to the extent that you could force the pin in and it clamped down
> > and held it....this para cord I scrounged up wouldn't lay flat and was
> > just a likely to roll or spit it out like a watermelon
> > seed....Needless to say I went back to the modern cord...a rigger made
> > guess you preferred 550 cuz it matched your raggedy old self huh? A
> > kind of stick with what you know thing, I just got tighter before
> > reaching 60 YO so proffered free......digging in dz trash piles is a
> > little to dz bum like to suit a Teamsters rep though. I suppose having
> > my reserve packed high might have effected
> > it, all I know is I enjoyed that jump, the locked bag stood me up
> > after I managed to throw out.....so I rode it down a while and cut
> > away at about 4 grand, the locked bag and lines hit about 20 ft from
> > where I touched down, the free bag was in someones back yard about 75
> > ft away. That's what I lived for, jumps on the edge of good sense.
> > It was the cost of a reserve repack that caused me to switch back to
> > the exceptable modern material for closing loops. A rigger said, damn
> > if you're going to use 550 why not ask me for fresh stuff off a
> > spool?" So I sez....."You just want to be in control." &
> > he goes "DAMN RIGHT, youre loonytoons someone has to keep an eye on
> > your penny saving schemes!" And he started giving me closing loops,
> > how about that?
> > ~Now I'm going to help Jerry save on his rigging fee's so he can pay
> > me for coaching~
> > Don't think he considers a "Oh Shit, I thought I was dead jump!" a
> > wonderful jump though HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA the boy should take up
> > tiddlywinks.
>
> line, this point forward, suspension line. 550 is a colonialism for
> the tensile strength of the line. 7 strands contained in an outer
> sheath = 550lbs tensile strength. It is actually called Type? Come on
> Snuff. Hint, there are different tensile strengths for different
> applications thus different *Types*. The little black dotted lines on
> the sheath give what type line it is . I doubt that you ever made a
> closing loop. For one, you lack the technical expertise and the
> resources. You have to finger trap the loop in the end of the sheath
> (after removing the strands from within it) with a fid and use a bar-
> tack machine or a zig-zag machine to sew it on to it's self or it just
> slips out and no loop , slip a washer over the line and tie a knot at
> the base. It helps if you have the old one to approximate the correct
> length. See that, now you know paracordie. I doubt that a rigger would
> let you use a green closing loop. The idea behind using white or red
> was to make visual inspection easy (pin check). While you were dressed
> in your green flight suit and green rig with that green painted face,
> the pin might not have been noticed.
> In some of the older rigs (dependant on MFG) you could make a short
> closing loop by just knotting both ends of the sheath together, slip
> over the washer and off you go.
> '
>
III MAF? are they still in DaNang or even around? I figured the USMC
might have busted it up or at least moved on and renamed or numbered
their MAF's and MEU's.
Specially the ones that lost wars. BTW glad we finally got a
discussion going that gives you a chance to run to your G.I. Joe books
and look shit up, now excuse me
I'm busy squaring away this video geek named Jerry, don't have time to
tell you a sea story gomer. ;)P
sky...@pdq.net
wrote:
>On Mar 6, 2:22 am, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>> On 5 Mar 2007 22:14:29 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >Who had the bag in tow, me or you? The shit was stiff and the loop was
>> >> >so tight I had to use the old roll pack called the suitcase to pin it.
>> >> >The white stretchy stuff most riggers used had a slight elasticity to
>> >> >it to the extent that you could force the pin in and it clamped down
>> >> >and held it....this para cord I scrounged up wouldn't lay flat and was
>> >> >just a likely to roll or spit it out like a watermelon
>> >> >seed....Needless to say I went back to the modern cord...a rigger made
>> >> >closing loop only cost 75 cents in the mid 90's around Houston.
>>
>> >> You had to ~pay~ for 'em? Every rigger or packer I ever knew would
>> >> just hand one out if they had one around - I mean, the most I would
>> >> ever ask for if I gave one away was if they had some beer to give me
>> >> one later and if they didn't, no big deal.
>
>
>I dunno what the closing loop thing was about, people hated to change
>them out in the early 90's....
Nevermind your own changeout to the green 550. What was that about -
you afraid the one you had in there wasn't gonna do its job?
>...You would see people down on their
>hands and knee's hovering over a pinned container counting strands.
>"Wadda you think, one more in it? dunno it might make it to the end of
>the day" Same way with changing out rubber stows. Dick kept a open box
>of them on the manifest table to encourage the change outs and keep
>skydivers moving rather than fixating. I bought a rig with Spectra
>lines and it eat tube stows like candy. The kid with 800 jumps who's
>bag fell out in the loading area? Pin didn't slip out, the closing
>loop broke....Pushing the boundaries on everything....I think that is
>what it may have been about. Skydiving can get pretty boring if
>everything is going your way, well except for you bootie whore types
>who need to feed big egos.
Nope - skydiving is never boring even when things are going as
planned. If you were getting bored you were getting complacent and
complacency is a remarkable sympton for a number of maladies which
often lead people out of the sport. It happened to you. There you go
again, coach Jinnie - teaching again by example.
>Same way with just up and quitting, saw people in their early 40's
>with 3,000 jumps or so just hang it up and take up something else like
>sailing. The USPA did a survey and said the average time to remain in
>sport at the time was 7 years, yet you could look around and see
>people who had been around 15 or 20 years. I'm thinking those were
>either making money in the sport or had no life though.
So, you're saying you're average because you went seven years and
anyone who stays in longer is doing it for politicially incorrect
purposes or for purposes demonstrating some social liability.
Brilliant, Jinnie - Anyone who skydived longer than you managed to get
away with is either greedy or has reprehensible priorities - does it
make you feel a little better about not being able to jump? All those
tens of thousands of jumpers out there skydiving every weekend, some
even more, and having a great time as they do it - and none the worse
for your lack of participation when the sad truth, as you see it, is
they're either doing it out of greed or because they have no life and
are thus pathetic. Ahhh, feel the burn, Jinnie. Since you crashed
your dumb ass out of skydiving, the whole thing has just gone downhill
so what happened to you ain't so bad now, is it?
>
>
>
>> > read the end of that last post, they started giving them to me to
>> >stop the experimenting
>>
>> Right and they were selling them up to that point - bunch a money
>> grubbing bottom feeders back in the early to mid 90's sounds like to
>> me.
>
>Oh yeah, they have always been around.....
Which doesn't say a lot for your earlier whines, laying it all at the
feet of "USPA2000," or any one of a number of entities - depending on
the rhetorical bullshit of the moment.
>Anytime people with money or
>good credit congregate, people wanting to relieve them of it are going
>to show up...
So, before the riggers started giving you closing loops, you saying
you were charging that 75 cents? Hope it wasn't revolving credit -
that 75 cents could eat you alive if you didn't pay it off by the end
of the month.
>...but no not like you, they generally were still giving
>value for money or had more than one thing to offer at the end of the
>20th century.
So, Jinnie - explain how you know that I am not "giving value for
money." Describe circumstances where I have actually been compensated
for what I did not deliver. Explain how this contention of yours is
not just a product of your own self-affirming imagination.
Essentially, I have the gall to give you your just ration of shit
which is hardly the ego-stroke you'd like, but you'll take any
attention you can get, and since you don't go to dropzones where you
could perhaps observe this lack of value for money if it were actually
a part of reality, you have to rely on your remarkably predictable
imagination to attempt a point or lamely illustrate an assertion. In
other words, dingleberry, you (again) don't know what you're talking
about and are just making it up, saying shit because you think it
sounds good, as you go along.
I'm still waiting for you to start picking on me. What you got going
on is no more "picking on" than pig shit picks on someone downwind. I
trust a pre-boarding check to catch and correct a potential problem
which might have occurred sometime between when I first checked the
pins prior to gearing up and when I got to the loading area but that
preboarding check ain't gonna do squat to catch anything after the
plane's in the air - and, I neve said I didn't check my own pin - but
I did say getting a pin check in the airplane is not a bad idea. Pay
attention, Jinnie.
>You are
>to self centered...
Unlike you who is only self-centered up to and at a certain acceptable
level - that how it goes, Jinnie? Tell us another. Citing examples
where it's clearly all about you would be child's play.
>.On the climb
>other divers are thinking of the exit order or the jump and perhaps
>shooting the shit and seeing to their own gear.
Yep - beside the point - but that hasn't changed in the years you
haven't been on dropzones.
>Then here you go. "my
>pin, my pin ohhhhhh my pin, see if its falling out?
And keep in mind this playacting on your part is just that, pathos and
melodrama designed to illustrate how someone who suggests getting a
pincheck in an airplane is not a bad idea is really just displaying
fear - which doesn't in the slightest deny the reality - a reality
illustrated with empirical, anecdotal, and verifiable experience and
happenstance - as opposed to fearfull supposition as you are
suggesting - that getting a pincheck in an airplane is not a bad
idea.
>You are bought and
>paid for to provide a service like a whore...
So you would like to imagine because of how this way of putting it
makes you feel better in that by denigrating someone who consistantly
shines the light of reality at your ego-centric take, illustrating for
all the myriad of stupidities and banalities central to your act you
can dismiss the message by dismissing the messenger without ever
effectively refuting the message. Sure, Jinnie - if it makes you feel
better but it doesn't change the reality.
>.Don't bother the paying
>customers with your angst you young puss
As opposed to you "bothering" skydivers with your own angst, hopping
around in the loading area braying for a pincheck there? And, umm -
you wanna explain how when you said you only had two reserve rides
it's been proven you've previously admitted to three and further, how
you can suggest your packing ability is superior when you packed a
reserve ride for yourslef every hundred or so jumps as compared to
someone else whose numbers reflect an average of one every 1200 jumps?
You failed to address that bit of inconvienent reality so by ignoring
it I guess you are accepting it? You're a liar and a dumbass -
provenly. Gonna refute that or just ignore it and by ignoring this
proven point - agree with it?
...bsrp
...jlk
sky...@pdq.net
wrote:
>On Mar 6, 12:59 am, "chuck" <cgilb39...@aol.com> wrote:
Oh yeah - some great "squaring away," you got going on. Saying you
only had two reserve rides over 300 some odd jumps when you earlier
admitted to three - perhaps more? Suggesting someone else can't pack
worth a shit when that person had a reserve ride every 1200 or so
jumps whereas you had one every hundred or so jumps - that's some
serious "squaring away," at least in the anti-example sense. Kinda
hard to "square" anyone "away," Jinnie when you're too busy stepping
in it. I mean, a "coach" with his head up his asst might be able to
coach from there but no one's gonna follow that lead unless you manage
to convey some sort of advantage or benefit of living life with your
head up there. Thus far, perhaps in the amusing spectacle sense it
might hold people's attention but I doubt anyone's gonna follow your
lead - certainly when it's clear where you ended up. Wanna be lucky
to skydive seven years and ultimately crash your ass out of the sport?
Follow Jinnie's lead.
...bsrp
...jlk
sky...@pdq.net
wrote:
>On Mar 5, 11:57 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
No problem unless, as it has occurred more than several times, the pin
comes clear or almost clear due to some force in the airplane
impacting the pin with a greater force than the force holding the pin
in place, that is.
>
>> You had a bag fall out in the loading area, Jinnie?
>
>No but I've seen one fall out, its a hoot, talk about red
>faced......the kid couldn't have been more embarrassed if his zipper
>was down in Church.....he had about 800 jumps too. Complacency was the
>culprit I'm thinking.....Yours is mental though.
How come the pincheck in the loading area didn't catch this before it
occurred? I thought that took care of it all?
>
>
>> No, it's not psychological at all beyond thinking things through and
>> learning from experience and the experiences of others. It's also a
>> matter of physics. A pin can move and has been moved by forces
>> greater than the force holding it in place, under the flap, inside the
>> loop, up against the top flap grommett. Sitting with a rig against a
>> bulkhead or another person and you move a certain way or the plane
>> bumps a certain way or the person it's leaning against moves a certain
>> way - all are capable and have demonstrated the capacity to exert
>> greater force against a pin than the force holding the pin in place
>> and move it - sometimes even to the point to where the pin is no
>> longer in the loop -
>
>bullshit, your just clumsy...
All it takes is enough force in the right place and it can eminate
from the person in the rig, the airplane, or other people in the
airplane. I've made this bet before and I'll make it again. Nevermind
the various real life occurances where a pin has been knocked or moved
clear of the loop in an airplane, thus suggesting a pincheck in the
airplane is not a bad idea, I'll bet you I can put on a rig and while
sitting in an aircraft with other people, either move in such a way or
have others move such a way where force sufficient to move the pin
will be applied, and in the right direction, and the pin will be
moved. Understand there's a difference between it accidentally
happening and it happening through conscious effort but it all boils
down to the same thing, if it's moved, it's moved, and as people in
the airplane, as you suggest, are focusing on other things if they
managed to accidnetally impart enough force in the right direction at
the right point, whether it be someone else's rig or their own, and
especially since the pin is not visible under its flap, a pin coming
clear is not unheard of - it's actually happenened and not just once
or twice - just as a pincheck discovering a pin cleared of the loop or
coming clear is also not unheard of - that has also happened not just
once or twice - all supporting the assertion that a pincheck in an
airplane is a good idea.
>.a well seated pin covered by a well
>tucked flap?
Absolutely. It's physics dinglberry and not only that - it's not just
supposition but has actually occurred, more than several times, and it
is not unheard of - as you would suggest.
>Well hell it would just about take the force of a bounce
>to get it out and only then because the closing loop broke on impact
>probably...
Bullshit - all it takes is enough force to move a pin and are you
saying if you were to open your container, grab the bridle and pull
the pin, that the force you exert pulling that pin is similar to the
force of a 120 mph impact? Are you saying a pilot chute when deployed
is also imparting a similar amount of force as an impact would impart?
No, all it takes is enough force in the right place and in the right
direction. Nevermind the fact that, for whatever reason, containers
have come open and after a pincheck, pins have been discovered almost
out of their loop in an aircraft - clearly suggesting a pincheck in an
aircraft is not a bad idea, understanding that there are forces in the
environment inside the aircraft which can (and have) unseated pins -
just as pinchecks in airplanes can (and have) averted premature
container openings - and this is not fearfull supposition but merely
simple reality - pinchecks in airplanes is not a bad idea.
>.you need to learn to sit still on the jump plane Mary
>Poppins.....
Oh, it's never happened to me (knock wood) but as I have explained,
the person wearing the rig doesn't have to move - all it took for the
people who have had a container open in the airplane was sufficient
force applied in the right place - no matter if they were imparting
that force or whether it came from someone or something else.
>Another thing.....by now you should be practiced enough to
>reach around and check your own pin by feel.....What the fuck is going
>on out there, yawl rasslin each other on the way to altitude?
Not at all - I never said I didn't do it myself - I just said getting
a pincheck in an airplane is not a bad idea - you're the one
stretching the concept to ridiculous, even histrionic proportions
while avoiding the obvious, as is standard in your dingleberry line of
"reasoning.".
>
>and this isn't suppositition wrought in fear, as
>> you would paint it but fact based on simple physics and by real life
>> occurances - it's happened and not just a single incidence or two or
>> three but many times over the years. It's rare in the sense that I've
>> seen someone move from sitting to kneeling, lean forwards, and their
>> bag starts to fall out - I've seen that maybe a half a dozen times in
>> 3600 jumps over eleven years. I've also see a couple two or three
>> videos where someone climbs out and their shit falls out and off they
>> go. Seen pictures and videos of people dangling from aircraft
>> horizontal stablizers in flight but one thing I've never seen is
>> someone have a preemie in the plane or out the door after someone had
>> checked their pin in the airplane. I've also seen pinchecks in the
>> airplane catch a pin under a tight loop that was just barely in and
>> subsequently pushed back to where it should be after being checked -
>> no check on the ground is gonna fix a problem discovered or
>> undiscovered in the air. Hence, getting a pincheck inside an airplane
>> is not a bad thing to do. You wanna paint it as due to fear but you
>> might as well paint someone doing a handle check as doing it out of
>> fear
>
>Well hell boy I hope you can feel your own handles and see if their
>right...
Naw, Jinnie - because in your own stupid way, if someone other than
you ever said that checking their handles wasn't a bad idea, you'd
naturally and predictably start gargling how they shoulda been checked
on the ground and they're just doing it out of fear.
>...you should be protecting them in a crowded situations
>anyway....
Shit, Jinnie - now you're just projecting your fear. People on the
airplane are trying to think about their dive and there you were, all
full of angst, squawking, "MY HANDLES!!! MY HANDLES!!! STAY AWAY FROM
MY HANDLES!!! IT'LL FUCK UP THE CG AND THE PLANE WILL CRASH AND WE'RE
ALL GONNA DIE!!! YAAAAAAAAAAUGHHHHHHH WAAAAAAA SNIF!!!"
>..Maybe you need to hire a body guard to get you and your
>rig safely out to & on the plane
Shit, Jinnie - maybe you shoulda got one for yourself for that
tortuous journey from packing to loading - I mean, checking a pin
isn't a bad idea but going nuts about it in the loading area after the
short walk from packing? Seems kinda hysterical to me.
>then perhaps a JM or rigger to ride
>along and make sure your gear is right at altitude...
So, what did you do if you made it safely to the loading area without
a preemie after gearing up and there wasn't a JM or rigger there to
check out your gear? Silly question - you went around,
"SQUAWKSQUAWKSQUAWK MY PIN CHECK IT BEFORE WE BOARD!!! I DON'T WANNA
DIEEEEEEEE," whether there was a JM or rigger there or not, eh?
>...You sound kind
>of helpless and fear ridden to me-----, GET A GRIP!!! now give me 75
>push ups for projecting fear bootie boy!
You first, dingleberry. Tell me a container has never, ever come open
in an airplane and further, tell me a pincheck in an airplane has
never ever discovered a pin that had been shifted. Further, explain
how your own premature openings were in reality averted by that
pincehck in the loading area. 75 pushups yourself for being so stupid
as to suggest a pincheck on the ground will find a easily fixable
issue in the aircraft.
Doesn't change the reality, dingleberry - I've averaged a reserve ride
every 1200 or so jumps over eleven years - none of them (knock wood)
were ever because of a pin working loose whereas you averaged a
reserve ride every hundred or so jumps over seven years and at least
one of them, if not more perhaps, were because of a pin working loose
- possibly identifiable and correctable in the airplane. Further,
ignoring the fact that containers have come open in the airplane and
the fact that pinchecks have discovered containers either open or
about to be open in the airplane won't make the facts go away - all
suggesting the obvious - getting a pincheck in an airplane is not a
bad idea, and the ultra-obvious - you don't know what the fuck you're
talking about (and were evidently pretty piss poor when it came to
packing skills). More fool you. The fats don't lie - but you do.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On 6 Mar 2007 08:17:19 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Mar 6, 12:59 am, "chuck" <cgilb39...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> On Mar 5, 11:03?pm, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>
> >> > On Mar 5, 6:29 pm, Mike Spurgeon <m...@spurgeon.net> wrote:
> >> > > Big Jim wrote:
>>>>>Snip biggy jim, he just wants to replace Jerry dink as my favorite USPA sissy
Annnnnnnnnnd away we go:
> >> > Who had the bag in tow, me or you? The shit was stiff and the loop was
> >> > so tight I had to use the old roll pack called the suitcase to pin it.
> >> > The white stretchy stuff most riggers used had a slight elasticity to
> >> > it to the extent that you could force the pin in and it clamped down
> >> > and held it....this para cord I scrounged up wouldn't lay flat and was
> >> > just a likely to roll or spit it out like a watermelon
> >> > seed....Needless to say I went back to the modern cord...
>>>>>>>>Snip Chuvkie cheeze.....he just wants a sea story
> >I'm busy squaring away this video geek named Jerry, don't have time to
> >tell you a sea story gomer.
Now awayyyy we go my main whiner is on line and bitching
> Oh yeah - some great "squaring away," you got going on. Saying you
> only had two reserve rides over 300 some odd jumps when you earlier
> admitted to three - perhaps more? Suggesting someone else can't pack
> worth a shit when that person had a reserve ride every 1200 or so
> jumps whereas you had one every hundred or so jumps - that's some
> serious "squaring away,"
> bsrb
> ...jlk- Hide quoted text -
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Whoa the closing loop out of the trash pile malfunction and the flying
through your own lines don't count so I only have one packing error
and all this shit happened before 150 jumps, so it can be written off
as gaining experience ~the hard way~
That's what makes me such a wonderful wreck coach, I got experience
fucking up!
HAHAHAHAHAHA Woo Woo hahahahaha, now about this closing loop...If I
dig in the trash and come up with the material to make you one well
#1 You will have a valid reason for all that pin fear
#2 I know your all tore up because I'm long gone from the South Texas
skydiving scene, but a snuffy trash loop will give you something to
remember me by for many years after they bury my old ass out in the
National cemetery....I'm offering you a win win deal here and all you
do is bitch and cry. If you are afraid to jump my shit, well don't
feel bad I got to where I was afraid of my own dollar store rigging
crap.....Just frame it and hang it on the wall. Nell my mule and I
might even send you a autographed picture standing down by the
barn ;)P
the unknown flailer
> On 5 Mar 2007 22:54:15 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Mar 5, 11:57 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
> >> On 5 Mar 2007 20:16:21 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >Jerry might die for all that drama queen crap on the plane and begging
> >> >for one in the isle or at the door door during jump run.
> >-> >He needs to have his shit together before he boards, the pin
> >should have been checked twice by then anyway!
>
> >> You know it - with all the shit that can happen to a pin from the
> >> moment the rig is on to the moment you arrive in the loading area -
> >> its a wonder bags aren't falling out left and right on that last few
> >> feet into the comparative safety of the loading area, where the forces
> >> which can shift a pin from its loop greatly drop off from where they
> >> were on that grueling and punishing journey travelled from packing.
>
> >Yawl quit playing grab ass in the loading area or walking to it and
> >theirs no problem
>
>
>
>
> >No but I've seen one fall out, its a hoot, talk about red
> >faced......the kid couldn't have been more embarrassed if his zipper
> >was down in Church.....he had about 800 jumps too. Complacency was the
> >culprit I'm thinking.....Yours is mental though.
>
> How come the pincheck in the loading area didn't catch this before it
> occurred? I thought that took care of it all?
>
Wearing booties, 800 Jumps? He was one of those get the fuck away from
me
deguello types....To his credit, the guy always checked his pin before
putting on the rig......It was a worn closing loop that dropped his
bag...the pin was seated...Dunno
their was this thing about closing loops and rubber stows in the early
90's. Just about every body but the jumping riggers wore them down to
the last thread before changing out....I've seen loop freaks take the
time to slip the pull up cord under a seated pin before pulling it
out.....Whipping the pull up cord out heats up the loop, didya know
that? Being a curious type I always had my nose stuck in other peoples
business
so I'm over there inspecting loops to see how thin they are. came
across several with a brown streak right at the pin. So a rigger goes
"LEAVE THOSE PACKERS ALONE SNUFFY!" and I say, whats this brown slash?
"Pull up cord friction, now get away!"
You are a tree packer........SCAT!" hummmm maybe I need to go look for
some some para cord....My loop displayed no signs of friction burn but
I'm always thinking. That's what makes me such a wonderful philosopher
in my old age....All that thinking" 0~;-*
sky...@pdq.net
wrote:
>On Mar 6, 1:51 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
Not just heat, dingleberry - the pullup cord will actuall saw into the
closing loop a little each time. Back in Beaumont they showed the new
jumpers early on how to slip the cord under the pin and while pulling
up on the pin, remove the cord with almost no friction on the closing
loop. Same thing at Waller - it ain't rocket science.
>Being a curious type I always had my nose stuck in other peoples
>business
As opposed to actuallt listening to what they were trying to teach you
at the time.
>so I'm over there inspecting loops to see how thin they are. came
>across several with a brown streak right at the pin. So a rigger goes
>"LEAVE THOSE PACKERS ALONE SNUFFY!" and I say, whats this brown slash?
>"Pull up cord friction, now get away!"
>You are a tree packer........SCAT!"
He called you scat? Seems he knew what he was talking about - and to
who.
>hummmm maybe I need to go look for
>some some para cord....My loop displayed no signs of friction burn but
>I'm always thinking. That's what makes me such a wonderful philosopher
>in my old age....All that thinking"
Thinking's one thing - thing things through - don't think you ever got
to that level. Still, how come the pincheck in the loading area
didn't catch the bag out in the loading area before it occurred? I
thought you said check in theloading area, no problems.
...bsrp
...jlk
sky...@pdq.net
wrote:
So, given that little bit of dingleberry backpeddling, that's one
packing error in 150 jumps whereas, since you were gargling about my
three reserve rides, I had three in 3600 Jumps. That's 1:150 for you
vs. 1:1200 for me - and how do you know my three reserve rides were
packing errors? Still points to some serious packing deficiencies you
got.
>so it can be written off
>as gaining experience ~the hard way~
Naw, I think it can be written off to shitty packing on your part - I
mean, even with your lameass dismissal of two of those malfunctions of
yours - nevermind you earlier said you only had two - now it's three -
even if all three of mine were due to packing error, that's one for
every 1200 jumps and your one (discounting the other two you're
crabbing away from) malfunction over the course of all your jumps
which is around 300. So, one in 300 vs. my one in 1200. That's still
some shitty packing, Jinnie.
>That's what makes me such a wonderful wreck coach, I got experience
>fucking up!
Like I said - you're the best coach to never have around.
>HAHAHAHAHAHA Woo Woo hahahahaha, now about this closing loop...If I
>dig in the trash and come up with the material to make you one well
>#1 You will have a valid reason for all that pin fear
Yeah, and if monkeys start flying your ass I'll have a valid
illustration of, who knows? Hell freezing over?
>#2 I know your all tore up because I'm long gone from the South Texas
>skydiving scene,
No, it's a blessing - one less dingleberry gargling for atention at
dropzones, crying for a pincheck in the loading area where all people
want to do is mockup their exits, walk the dive a a couple times,
watch canopies come down, and wait for the airplane.
>but a snuffy trash loop will give you something to
>remember me by for many years after they bury my old ass out in the
>National cemetery...
They gonna bury you in that fancy blue and yellow BodySport? Gonna
put you in that hand painted yellow helmet? Didn't know there was a
national clown cemetary. So, how's it work? They play taps on a
bicycle horn at these things?
>.I'm offering you a win win deal here and all you
>do is bitch and cry.
No, all you've offered is the same old brags, bitching, and trolls -
nothing new there.
>If you are afraid to jump my shit, well don't
>feel bad I got to where I was afraid of my own dollar store rigging
>crap...
Nevermind that you earlier said you don't buy dollar store stuff which
contradicts an earlier statement where you said you just got back from
the dollar store. You show up with one of your closing loops and I'll
make sure it gets jumped - already said as much. Hell, everyone knows
going to a dropzone is not anything you're willing to do so just send
one out and I'll make sure it gets jumped.
>..Just frame it and hang it on the wall.
Better than that - after it gets jumped I'll see that it gets sent to
the AFF class for them to consider.
>Nell my mule and I
>might even send you a autographed picture standing down by the
>barn
Send it on out, Jinnie - keeping in mind you don't own a mule or a
barn and that is just another lame pretense you're trying to cloak
yourself in. Jinnie with a mule by the barn. Nevermind Jinnie in the
house by the lake with the internet and the satellite tv. Real
old-timey mule owner, eh?
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On 6 Mar 2007 13:24:22 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
> wrote:
>
> >deguello types....To his credit, the guy always checked his pin before
> >putting on the rig......It was a worn closing loop that dropped his
> >bag...the pin was seated...Dunno their was this thing about closing loops and > >rubber stows in the early 90's. Just about every body but the jumping riggers wore > >them down to the last thread before changing out....I've seen loop freaks take the
> >time to slip the pull up cord under a seated pin before pulling it
> >out.....Whipping the pull up cord out heats up the loop, didya know
> >that?
>
> Not just heat, dingleberry - the pullup cord will actuall saw into the
> closing loop a little each time. Back in Beaumont they showed the new
> jumpers early on how to slip the cord under the pin and while pulling
> up on the pin, remove the cord with almost no friction on the closing
> loop. Same thing at Waller - it ain't rocket science.
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk-
Yep but people were starting to do it before you went to FJC...Think a
guy that digs para cord out of the trash heap is going to worry about
pull up burn? Just slide it out slow, myloop was so tight getting it
under the pin could be a tongue hanging out of side of mouth
experience, besides para cord wears like iron. Speaking of pin checks.
Think that young bootee god would have been appreciative if you opened
his flap.....jiggled the pin and that cord broke? Notttttt he would
have laid all the blame at the pin checkers feet....The doofus
probably knew his closing loop was ready to pop.
That's the way you crybabies are and always have been. Somebody should
come by with a canoe paddle and spank all your young ego maniacal
ass's! ;)P
the unknown flailer
> On 6 Mar 2007 13:03:11 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Mar 6, 12:51 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
> >> On 6 Mar 2007 08:17:19 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >On Mar 6, 12:59 am, "chuck" <cgilb39...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Mar 5, 11:03?pm, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> > On Mar 5, 6:29 pm, Mike Spurgeon <m...@spurgeon.net> wrote:
> >> >> > > Big Jim wrote:
>
> >>>>>>Snip biggy jim, he just wants to replace Jerry dink as my favorite USPA sissy
>
> >> >> > so tight I had to use the old roll pack called the suitcase to pin it.
> >> >> > The white stretchy stuff most riggers used had a slight elasticity to
> >> >> > it to the extent that you could force the pin in and it clamped down
> >> >> > and held it....this para cord I scrounged up wouldn't lay flat and was
> >> >> > just a likely to roll or spit it out like a watermelon
> >> >> > seed....Needless to say I went back to the modern cord...
>
> They gonna bury you in that fancy blue and yellow BodySport?
The body sports gone, they cut it off me at Saint E in Beaumont when
the fire dept bought me in
>Gonna put you in that hand painted yellow helmet? >
Found that in a shed the other day, but nope don't think so. Wanna be
cremated
> >.I'm offering you a win win deal here and all you
> >do is bitch and cry.
>
> No, all you've offered is the same old brags, bitching, and trolls -
> nothing new there.
Trolls I'll admit to even though I don't have to anymore.....you
swallowed the hook, the other fish can't keep up but brag about being
so far outside the USPA BSR's and acceptable USPA behaviour? BTW
you're the one doing all the bitching weiner boy
>
> >If you are afraid to jump my shit, well don't
> >feel bad I got to where I was afraid of my own dollar store rigging
> >crap....Just frame it and hang it on the wall.
> >Nell my mule and I
> >might even send you a autographed picture standing down by the
> >barn
>
> Send it on out, Jinnie - keeping in mind you don't own a mule or a
> barn and that is just another lame pretense you're trying to cloak
> yourself in. Jinnie with a mule by the barn. Nevermind Jinnie in the
> house by the lake with the internet and the satellite tv. Real
> old-timey mule owner, eh?
old time? I went to devils ville today to see a old friend....Across
from the post office and school theirs a Donkey and Goat grazing in
somebody's front yard....Not old time, we are just different up here
in the woods. I'm fairly modern up beside some of these
woodsbillys....Hell I got sat T.V. and talk to urban skydivers on the
computer.
That's progressive wouldn't you say?
>
> ...bsrp
sky...@pdq.net
wrote:
>On Mar 6, 6:20 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>> On 6 Mar 2007 13:24:22 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>
>> >deguello types....To his credit, the guy always checked his pin before
>> >putting on the rig......It was a worn closing loop that dropped his
>> >bag...the pin was seated...Dunno their was this thing about closing loops and > >rubber stows in the early 90's. Just about every body but the jumping riggers wore > >them down to the last thread before changing out....I've seen loop freaks take the
>> >time to slip the pull up cord under a seated pin before pulling it
>> >out.....Whipping the pull up cord out heats up the loop, didya know
>> >that?
>>
>> Not just heat, dingleberry - the pullup cord will actuall saw into the
>> closing loop a little each time. Back in Beaumont they showed the new
>> jumpers early on how to slip the cord under the pin and while pulling
>> up on the pin, remove the cord with almost no friction on the closing
>> loop. Same thing at Waller - it ain't rocket science.
>>
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk-
>
>Yep but people were starting to do it before you went to FJC...Think a
>guy that digs para cord out of the trash heap is going to worry about
>pull up burn?
Depends if you ask before or after he has a preemie going on. That or
when he has to start crying for spare change so he can get himself a
new closing loop.
>Just slide it out slow, myloop was so tight getting it
>under the pin could be a tongue hanging out of side of mouth
>experience,
Which doesn't explain in the slightest how that pincheck in the
loading area failed to avert that bag out prematurely. I mean, you
said pincehck in the laoding area, no problems after that - what's the
deal?
>besides para cord wears like iron. Speaking of pin checks.
>Think that young bootee god would have been appreciative if you opened
>his flap.....jiggled the pin and that cord broke?
You really should consider keeping all your fear and your angst to
yourself, Jinnie - get some zen and stop fixating on what might happen
- unless you're saying you seen or even have anecdotal evidence of
someone doing a pincheck and busting the closing loop inthe process.
And if so, what? Once, twice? Ever? Besides, they should be keeping
after the state of their closing loop so it could never happen - that
how it goes?
>Notttttt he would
>have laid all the blame at the pin checkers feet..
Oh, the blame - save us all from blame. All becomes just bitter ashes
when blame settles down around our necks like a millstone to be borne
from here to eternity. Got news for ya, Jinnie - someone's loop
breaks and someone decides to "blame" me for it, fuck'em - I'll just
give 'em a new closing loop. Besides - what sort of pincehck you
talking about where the pin gets jiggled? Ones I've seen you just
eyeball it and if the pin ain't where it's supposed to you put it
where it should be and no eyeballing I ever seen that took out a
closing loop. Now, if the loop were to go while moving the pin to
where it should be - I'll take that blame, fuck yeah - beats the hell
out his bag dropping out with the door open or worse. Poor Jinnie,
lives his life trying to remain blameless. That's some mighty fear
you got going on - jinking left then right, jumping at shadows, so no
one will be able to point a finger without you pointing to someone or
something else. Personal responsibility? Thy name ain't Jinnie.
>..The doofus
>probably knew his closing loop was ready to pop.
Which doesn't mean that odious blame that has you so spooked carries
much weight, when you get down to it, eh?
>That's the way you crybabies are and always have been. Somebody should
>come by with a canoe paddle and spank all your young ego maniacal
>ass's!
Right, Jinnie - ~someone~ should - but not you - you're too lazy and
ineffectual for that. Lot easier to start crying ~someone~ should do
this and ~someone~ should do that, but when it comes to actually
making ~something~ happen <crickets chirping>. Oh, "~someone should~"
- basically a cry for help by the weak-willed and the lazy for
~someone else~ to do whatever.
...bsrp
...jlk
sky...@pdq.net
wrote:
>On Mar 6, 6:44 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>> On 6 Mar 2007 13:03:11 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Mar 6, 12:51 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>> >> On 6 Mar 2007 08:17:19 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >On Mar 6, 12:59 am, "chuck" <cgilb39...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >> >> On Mar 5, 11:03?pm, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > On Mar 5, 6:29 pm, Mike Spurgeon <m...@spurgeon.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>snip Mike, he don't like to to get drung into snuffy squabbles, he gets >>>grumpy
>> >> >> > > Big Jim wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>>Snip biggy jim, he just wants to replace Jerry dink as my favorite USPA sissy
>>
>> >> >> > Who had the bag in tow, me or you? The shit was stiff and the loop was
>> >> >> > so tight I had to use the old roll pack called the suitcase to pin it.
>> >> >> > The white stretchy stuff most riggers used had a slight elasticity to
>> >> >> > it to the extent that you could force the pin in and it clamped down
>> >> >> > and held it....this para cord I scrounged up wouldn't lay flat and was
>> >> >> > just a likely to roll or spit it out like a watermelon
>> >> >> > seed....Needless to say I went back to the modern cord...
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>Snip Chuckie cheeze.....he just wants a sea story
>
>> They gonna bury you in that fancy blue and yellow BodySport?
>
>The body sports gone, they cut it off me at Saint E in Beaumont when
>the fire dept bought me in
Shit, you've described the injuries as not more than a scratch, Jinnie
- how come you didn't just take it off yourself?
>
>
>>Gonna put you in that hand painted yellow helmet? >
>
>
>Found that in a shed the other day, but nope don't think so. Wanna be
>cremated
I think they can do that with your helmet on, Jinnie. You oughta - at
least in the memory of that fancy BodySport which matched that fancy
helmet so well.
>
>
>> >.I'm offering you a win win deal here and all you
>> >do is bitch and cry.
>>
>> No, all you've offered is the same old brags, bitching, and trolls -
>> nothing new there.
>
>Trolls I'll admit to even though I don't have to anymore.....you
>swallowed the hook, the other fish can't keep up but brag about being
>so far outside the USPA BSR's and acceptable USPA behaviour? BTW
>you're the one doing all the bitching weiner boy
Naw, I'm just pointing the light of reality exposing your bullshit,
lies, and pretensions. Fuggit if you can't take a joke.
>>
>> >If you are afraid to jump my shit, well don't
>> >feel bad I got to where I was afraid of my own dollar store rigging
>> >crap....Just frame it and hang it on the wall.
>> >Nell my mule and I
>> >might even send you a autographed picture standing down by the
>> >barn
>>
>> Send it on out, Jinnie - keeping in mind you don't own a mule or a
>> barn and that is just another lame pretense you're trying to cloak
>> yourself in. Jinnie with a mule by the barn. Nevermind Jinnie in the
>> house by the lake with the internet and the satellite tv. Real
>> old-timey mule owner, eh?
>
>old time? I went to devils ville today to see a old friend....Across
>from the post office and school theirs a Donkey and Goat grazing in
>somebody's front yard....Not old time, we are just different up here
>in the woods. I'm fairly modern up beside some of these
>woodsbillys....Hell I got sat T.V. and talk to urban skydivers on the
>computer.
>That's progressive wouldn't you say?
When juxtaposed with your favorite pretense, sure - hypocritical, too.
Just something remarkably absurd about someone pretending to be so set
in his ways and cranky and old - and making his complaints about most
anything not representitive of himself on the usenet via a computer
connected to an isp. It is certainly an aspect of performance art at
its most absurd.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On 6 Mar 2007 17:11:48 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
> - unless you're saying you seen or even have anecdotal evidence of
> someone doing a pincheck and busting the closing loop inthe process.
> And if so, what? Once, twice? Ever? Besides, they should be keeping
> after the state of their closing loop so it could never happen - that
> how it goes?
Yes you should and yes they should.....skydiving is a individual
choice and beyond reserve repacks gear items are also. The problem
lies in the fact most skydivers are not willing to take the lumps for
their actions....such as inatention to condition of a loop.
>
> >he would
> >have laid all the blame at the pin checkers feet..
>
> Oh, the blame - save us all from blame.
no blame its just understanding human nature Don't feel sorry for him
..The doofus probably knew his closing loop was ready to pop.
>
> Which doesn't mean that odious blame that has you so spooked carries
> much weight, when you get down to it, eh?
>
> >That's the way you crybabies are and always have been. Somebody should
> >come by with a canoe paddle and spank all your young ego maniacal
> >ass's!
>
> Right, Jinnie - ~someone~ should - but not you - you're too lazy
damn right, old and tired to
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk-
Now about your pin fear Jerry, lets hope these frank discussions
haven't given you a closing loop fear also.....you seem pretty skitzo
about out of sight stuff, things in the real also ~comes from being
anal I suppose~ ;)
the unknown flailer
> > > house by the lake with the internet and the satellite tv. ?Real
> > > old-timey mule owner, eh?
>
> > old time? I went to devils ville today to see a old friend....Across
> > from the post office and school theirs a Donkey and Goat grazing in
> > somebody's front yard....Not old time, we are just different up here
> > in the woods. I'm fairly modern up beside some of these
> > woodsbillys....Hell I got sat T.V. and talk to urban skydivers on the
> > computer.
> > That's progressive wouldn't you say?
>
> > > ...bsrp
> > > ...jlk- Hide quoted text -
>
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
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>
>
> > computer.
> > That's progressive wouldn't you say?
>
>
;) I must be a sadist then cuz its enjoyable to me, I like to hear
Jerry squeel like a pig
bwooooohahahahahaha <------insane laughter
sky...@pdq.net
wrote:
>On Mar 6, 8:30 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
So, why have you been crying so much about the idea of getting a
pincheck in the aircraft being not a bad idea, dingleberry?
>The problem
>lies in the fact most skydivers are not willing to take the lumps for
>their actions....such as inatention to condition of a loop.
Or even chasing after another formation and opening in their right of
way? So, explain how someone isn't "willing to take the lumps for
their actions" when their closing loop breaks and their bag falls out
- you saying they just kinda ignore it and expect someone else to fix
it - maybe "blame" it on something or someone else? Nevermind you've
already related how back during that short period of time you were
jumping that jumpers were routinely using their closing loops until
they were almost worn through whereas nowaday (you suggest) jumpers
are just as likely to change them out when they start to show wear
and fatigue - that ~isn't~ attention to condition of loop?
>>
>> >he would
>> >have laid all the blame at the pin checkers feet..
>>
>> Oh, the blame - save us all from blame.
>
>no blame its just understanding human nature Don't feel sorry for him
>..The doofus probably knew his closing loop was ready to pop.
You're crabwalking, Jinnie. You say someone "would have laid all the
blame," in some direction and then say there was no blame - just
"human nature." This goes back to your asinine supposition where you
said, "Speaking of pin checks. Think that young bootee god would have
been appreciative if you opened his flap.....jiggled the pin and that
cord broke? Notttttt he would have laid all the blame at the pin
checkers feet...." I say you're crabwalking, Jinnie.
>>
>> Which doesn't mean that odious blame that has you so spooked carries
>> much weight, when you get down to it, eh?
>>
>> >That's the way you crybabies are and always have been. Somebody should
>> >come by with a canoe paddle and spank all your young ego maniacal
>> >ass's!
>>
>> Right, Jinnie - ~someone~ should - but not you - you're too lazy
>
>damn right, old and tired to
Not too tired to start gargling for ~someone~ to take action on your
behalf. Maybe you should read some Dale Carnegie - it might teach you
how to get people to do what want done, but cannot do yourself.
>
>Now about your pin fear Jerry, lets hope these frank discussions
>haven't given you a closing loop fear also.....you seem pretty skitzo
>about out of sight stuff, things in the real also ~comes from being
>anal I suppose~
Closing loop ain't no big deal either - it gets looked at, like
everything else that can be eyeballed when I pack. Dance monkey!
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On 6 Mar 2007 22:22:50 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> >Now about your pin fear Jerry, lets hope these frank discussions
> >haven't given you a closing loop fear also.....you seem pretty skitzo
> >about out of sight stuff, things in the real also ~comes from being
> >anal I suppose~
>
> Closing loop ain't no big deal either - it gets looked at, like
> everything else that can be eyeballed when I pack. Dance monkey!
>
> ...bsrp
>
Thats not the question, how worn are you willing to let it get? Do you
do like the early 90's tightwads and count threads down to 2 or 3
before changing?
the unknown flailer
> >> >under the pin could be a tongue hanging out of side of mouth
> >> >experience,
>
> >> Which doesn't explain in the slightest how that pincheck in the
> >> loading area failed to avert that bag out prematurely. I mean, you
> >> said pincehck in the laoding area, no problems after that - what's the
> >> deal?
> ...jlk-
Well my bag in tow was a out of specks loop problem combined with a
exit collision out of the 182, the deguello guys preloading bag on the
ground incident was a popped loop. The pins would have shown good at a
check......What I'm saying is your pin fear is
unreasonable.......check it or have it checked as much as you want to,
just not in the isle or door....A crowded plane that may be bumping
and swaying isn't the ideal place to check a pin. People have their
mind on the exit and are in a hurry...... might not get the flap
tucked right whatever. Check your pin before putting the rig on (the
reason is even though you many have closed and pinned only minutes
ago, unless you hang your rig or have had your eye on it the whole
time-----somebody could have kicked or tripped over it. I've even seen
dumb shits pull them up & sit on them) Get another check in the
loading area, if its seated that pin more than likely ain't coming out
unless you hook the bridle or flap on something. I doubt you could
hook your bridal because your such a big pussy ya probably use a BOC
setup. Otherwise If nobody kicks or punches you in the lower side of
the container in the opposing direction of the pin insert your going
to be OK. Its the loop thats going to get you eventually Jerry, the
poor thing must be plumb wore out from being checked in bouncing
aircraft or perhaps from rubbing the flap on a cabin bulkhead.....You
sound like you must have a hard time setting still, ya must be a real
jiggle butt to have to be concerned about your pin coming adrift on
the climb to altitude. And how might pin checks wear a loop?
Fingernails, some skydivers are effete and square off then polish
their nails, others bight their nails and their jagged. Most skydivers
like to push on the eye hook end and jiggle pins when their checking
them...in a moving plane? Oh yeah, your going to end up with a pin
problem or a broken loop one boy, just a matter of time......That's
why I'm trying to break you of this pin fear problem. Get a pin check
before boarding. When you get on the plane watch where you set.
Protect your pin just like you should be protecting your handles in
crowded conditions. If its a sit on the floor situation and someone
bumps your back or lays a sliding shoe kick to the back of your
container trying to shift positions and get comfortable. Just reach
back and feel your pin and check your bridal while your at it when you
stand up. Might want to turn around a punch the clumsy joker who
kicked your container in the balls for good measure. I damned sure
wouldn't let someone that clumsy check my pin, certainly not after a
jab to their balls hahahahahaha Now have a good weekend and take
better care of your back after pin checks----Try to be happy and not
worry to much, life is short ~why make it miserable with fear?~ ;)P
the unknown flailer
> >proper time
>
> Or even chasing after another formation and opening in their right of
> way?
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
Not in their right away, off to their right and what the hell has that
got to do with pin checks and your unnatural fear? Besides 4 sissy's
under canopy don't rate a clearance the BSR's recommend for
clouds......It happened what 16 or 17 years ago, now try to focus on
this pin thing boy. Besides I'd probably do it again given the
chance, just to see their heads snap around in union. A custom
tracking feat like that gave me great pleasure. Like a old hawk
swooping 4 hens hahahaha DAMN were they mad!. ;)P
sky...@pdq.net
wrote:
>On Mar 7, 11:20 am, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>> On 6 Mar 2007 22:22:50 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >Now about your pin fear Jerry, lets hope these frank discussions
>> >haven't given you a closing loop fear also.....you seem pretty skitzo
>> >about out of sight stuff, things in the real also ~comes from being
>> >anal I suppose~
>>
>> Closing loop ain't no big deal either - it gets looked at, like
>> everything else that can be eyeballed when I pack. Dance monkey!
>>
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk-
>>
>Thats not the question,
You didn't ask a question, monkeyboy.
>how worn are you willing to let it get?
>Do you
>do like the early 90's tightwads and count threads down to 2 or 3
>before changing?
What's it to ya, Dingleberry? You don't jump and couldn't pack worth
a shit so why don't you come on down to the dz, do a little
investigation - ask around, eyeball some gear.
What if I did wait until it was down to "2 or 3?"
What if I did it earlier than that?
Now, about your fear of not being able to do shit for yourself -
gargling for ~someone~ to take action on your behalf - I think it's a
cry for help - just like your big phobia about other people making
individual choices for themselves and getting a pincheck in the
airplane. What's even better is you gargling about people being "not
willing to take their lumps," not that you were ever willing,
regarding letting their closing loops wear thin while at the same time
suggesting jumpers are just as likely to change them out when they
start to show wear and fatigue. Like, that ~isn't~ attention to
condition of loop? You're just crabwalking and contradicting
yourself, dingleberry. Then there's your fear of a closing loop
breaking if it were "jiggled" during a pincheck, all the while working
the "fear" angle just because of the idea suggesting a pincheck in an
airplane is not a bad idea - this shit's easy to keep track of, Jinnie
- how come you can't do it?
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On 8 Mar 2007 21:19:29 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Mar 7, 11:20 am, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
> >> On 6 Mar 2007 22:22:50 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >Now about your pin fear Jerry, lets hope these frank discussions
> >> >haven't given you a closing loop fear also.....you seem pretty skitzo
> >> >anal I suppose~
>
> >> Closing loop ain't no big deal either - it gets looked at, like
> >> everything else that can be eyeballed when I pack. Dance monkey!
>
> >> ...bsrp
> >> ...jlk-
>
>
> You didn't ask a question, monkeyboy.
implied question, I keep forgetting you're to dense to pick up on
cerebral shit
here's the question: how worn are you willing to let it get?
Do you do like the early 90's tightwads and count threads down to 2 or
3
before changing?
>
>
> What if I did wait until it was down to "2 or 3?"
> What if I did it earlier than that?
A raving pin fear? I expect you do it twice a week botoh youre a
cheapskate.
People who base their life on money and possessions will do about
anything for
more money. Dunno if their given to you ya probably do it or have it
done on a schedule like changing oil in a car......I can't see you
going past a reserve repack without having the main containers loop
changed seeings you have such a pin fear.....I'm trying to balance the
big pussy side you have with the cheap side.....Its a complicated
calculation....were not talking normal here, you I liken unto a high
class whore. You have no JM or Rigger Endorsement. Just a camera and
yet ya expect your way to be payed----I'm saying you need to put out
more if you want respect you young bottom feeding whore! All I see is
a scared kid with a camera tsk tsk tsk
> Now, about your fear of not being able to do shit for yourself -
> gargling for ~someone~ to take action on your behalf - I think it's a
> cry for help
Nope I have plenty of hired help plus the Government takes care of
me....I'm a antique.
Yup yup yup, too bad I hadda retire.......might have made a man out of
your girlboy tail.
> just because of the idea suggesting a pincheck in an
> airplane is not a bad idea - this shit's easy to keep track of, Jinnie
> - how come you can't do it?
I'm not here to keep track of shit------just make comments kid.....to
bad they rattle your self image.
the unknown flailer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Big snip<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
...bsrp
3:17 am? Uh huh setting up all night thinking about big daddy and what
he had to say huh? HAW HAW HAW ~I own you~
sky...@pdq.net
wrote:
>On Mar 9, 3:17 am, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>> On 8 Mar 2007 21:19:29 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Mar 7, 11:20 am, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>> >> On 6 Mar 2007 22:22:50 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >Now about your pin fear Jerry, lets hope these frank discussions
>> >> >haven't given you a closing loop fear also.....you seem pretty skitzo
>> >> >about out of sight stuff, things in the rear also ~comes from being
>> >> >anal I suppose~
>>
>> >> Closing loop ain't no big deal either - it gets looked at, like
>> >> everything else that can be eyeballed when I pack. Dance monkey!
>>
>> >> ...bsrp
>> >> ...jlk-
>>
>> >That's not the question,
>>
>> You didn't ask a question, monkeyboy.
>
>implied question, I keep forgetting you're to dense to pick up on
>cerebral shit
No, there was no implied question, dingleberry - here's what you said:
"Now about your pin fear Jerry, lets hope these frank discussions
haven't given you a closing loop fear also.....you seem pretty skitzo
about out of sight stuff, things in the real also ~comes from being
anal I suppose~"
To which I responded: "Closing loop ain't no big deal either - it
gets looked at, like everything else that can be eyeballed when I
pack. Dance monkey!"
To which you danced, "That's not the question,"
Declarative sentences with no questions, implied or otherwise, jackass
- you think this shit just disappears after it's read? Kinda explains
why you high-tailed it off the dz when you feared a girl was gonna
kick your ass - you couldn't change what happened earlier and nor
could you deny it - so you beat feat to the rear.
> here's the question: how worn are you willing to let it get?
Here's the answer: I'm willing to let it get worn enough. But,
what's it to ya, dingleberry?
>Do you do like the early 90's tightwads and count threads down to 2 or
>3
>before changing?
Maybe - what's it to ya, monkeyboy?
>>
>>
>> What if I did wait until it was down to "2 or 3?"
>> What if I did it earlier than that?
>
>A raving pin fear? I expect you do it twice a week botoh youre a
>cheapskate.
Not surprising, Mary Worth - one answer indicates some sort of social
liability while another indicates some other. But then, I was never
so much a cheapskate to be intimidated by some 75 cent closing loop
retail cost, either.
>People who base their life on money and possessions will do about
>anything for
>more money.
Which is an interesting take if only for the inconvienent example of
you making a choice concerning what you were using for a closing loop
based on a 75 cent retail cost factor.
>Dunno if their given to you ya probably do it or have it
>done on a schedule like changing oil in a car...
There's a lot you "dunno," dingleberry - just make some more guesses
and sooner or later you'll arrive at the answer which is for you the
most affirming.
>...I can't see you
>going past a reserve repack without having the main containers loop
>changed seeings you have such a pin fear...
Of course you can't, Jinnie - since you're whole line of reasoning is
based on what makes you feel better about yourself - and in this case
specifically casting aspersion on someone who regularly punctures your
ego towards the purpose of dismissing the ego-puncturing points the
person is making. Shit, Jinnie - I might well pack my own reserves.
>..I'm trying to balance the
>big pussy side you have with the cheap side...
Like I said, Jinnie - just keep on doing that monkeydance and sooner
or later you'll arrive at whatever answer makes you feel best about
yourself and your circumstances.
>..Its a complicated
>calculation....were not talking normal here, you I liken unto a high
>class whore.
Yeah, whatever dingleberry - as I've also said before, how you arrive
at your conclusions and opinions has often been shown to be enormously
flawed.
>You have no JM or Rigger Endorsement.
So you think but you don't really know, do you?
>Just a camera and
>yet ya expect your way to be payed----I'm saying you need to put out
>more if you want respect you young bottom feeding whore!
Which goes back to you trying to dicate how the world should be based
on your own needfull criteria. Respect, at least in the skydiving
world, was never something you achieved, and certainly never earned.
You spent your time as a novice patently making the pretense that you
weren't a novice and it shows in how it all culminated. You were bad
about constructive criticism and advice, worse in taking your lumps
and learning from it, and piss poor when it came to thinking things
through. You saw everything in heirarchies and believed that with
each level achieved would automatically afford you some level of
"respect," and this clearly shows in the patches which you festooned
your fancy blue and yellow Bodysport with, not to mention your crying
over the coaching program because it took something away from the "old
D's."
>All I see is
>a scared kid with a camera tsk tsk tsk
No, all you see are a bunch of words which puncture your ego with
regularity. If you went to a dz you might see that but there's little
doubt that what you see would be heavily colored by what you wanted to
see, but what you see in here is just words, and worse, ideas - in
this case the idea that getting a pincheck in an airplane isn't a bad
idea.
>
>> Now, about your fear of not being able to do shit for yourself -
>> gargling for ~someone~ to take action on your behalf - I think it's a
>> cry for help
>
>Nope I have plenty of hired help plus the Government takes care of
>me...
So, when you say, "Somebody should come by with a canoe paddle and
spank all your young ego maniacal ass's!," explain why you are saying
this on an electronic newsgroup as opposed to saying it to the hired
help or even the government and if you have given them those
instructions, how come it has yet to be carried out?
>.I'm a antique.
No, you're a dingleberry - that pretense ain't flying either and it's
a disservice to all those "antiques" out there who aren't
dingleberries.
>Yup yup yup, too bad I hadda retire.......might have made a man out of
>your girlboy tail.
I thought you said that was your "job in here," or something like that
- you throwing in the towell?
>
>
>> just because of the idea suggesting a pincheck in an
>> airplane is not a bad idea - this shit's easy to keep track of, Jinnie
>> - how come you can't do it?
>
>I'm not here to keep track of shit----
Never let it be said that Jinnie never was able to state what is most
abundantly obvious.
>--just make comments kid.....to
>bad they rattle your self image.
Not at all - so tell me how your denial of the idea that getting a
pincheck in an airplane isn't a bad idea, that this somehow could be
"self image rattling."
...bsrp
...jlk
sky...@pdq.net
wrote:
>On Mar 9, 3:17 am, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
Not at all - for all you know I coulda just come back from work or
from overseas or could be posting from anywhere - pick a time zone,
dingleberry. Besides, is that all you got now? Working the late
night post angle? Shit, you just didn't have an answer for any of the
questions or ideas. Weak, Jinnie.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On 9 Mar 2007 09:22:51 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
Why does what I'm thinking bother you then? Oh thats right ~I own you~
tadaaaaa
BTW I don't care if you pin check on the aircraft, as long as you pin
check before putting on your rig and get a 2nd opinion before boarding
if theirs a delay considering your pin fear runs so deep and yawl
ain't holding me up screwing around after DOOR is called, knock
yourself out on the pin checks kid. If it dislodges because of worry
and being fooled with so much don't blame it on me. I'm just trying to
impart a little Zen in a bootee boy with a freaked out over his pin
thing going on. Have a nice weekend blue skies and fair winds.........
Snuffy (owner of fancy lads and other stubborn things)
sky...@pdq.net
wrote:
>On Mar 9, 12:56 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>> On 9 Mar 2007 09:22:51 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Mar 9, 3:17 am, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Big snip<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>> > ...bsrp
>>
>> >3:17 am? Uh huh setting up all night thinking about big daddy and what
>> >he had to say huh? HAW HAW HAW ~I own you~
>>
>> Not at all - for all you know I coulda just come back from work or
>> from overseas or could be posting from anywhere - pick a time zone,
>> dingleberry. Besides, is that all you got now? Working the late
>> night post angle? Shit, you just didn't have an answer for any of the
>> questions or ideas. Weak, Jinnie.
>>
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk
>
>Why does what I'm thinking bother you then?
It doesn't bother me, dingleberry - try not to confuse the regular nd
complete deconstruction of your lame, self-serving crap as being
instigated by some sort of "bother."
>Oh thats right ~I own you~
>tadaaaaa
Not in the slightest, dingleberry - as a matter of fact, in the
various circumstances where I have left you alone, just a matter of
time, provenly so, where you started making those cries for help -
such is the life of the troll - no self control and owned. I dare you
to prove how owned you are not, Jinnie - how much does having that
"last word" really own you?
>
>BTW I don't care if you pin check on the aircraft,
Whoopty shit, sure wouldn't have guessed that with the hissy yoyu've
been throwing just because there was an idea that getting a pin check
on an aircraft wasn't a bad idea.
>s long as you pin
>check before putting on your rig and get a 2nd opinion before boarding
>if theirs a delay considering your pin fear runs so deep and yawl
>ain't holding me up screwing around after DOOR is called,
Why Jinie? What are you afraid of?
>nock
>yourself out on the pin checks kid.
Ya know - I think you're afraid to admit getting a pincheck in an
airplane isn't a bad idea.
>if it dislodges because of worry
>and being fooled with so much don't blame it on me.
Hell, if you dislodged it, you'd catch your share of shit - not that
you would stay to take your lumps - as past example has shown.
>I'm just trying to
>impart a little Zen in a bootee boy with a freaked out over his pin
>thing going on.
So, explain how full of zen is having a hissy fit, assigning fear,
failing to suggest pertinant examples against, and ultimately
crabwalking away from the concept of the ~idea~ that a pincheck in the
airplane is not a bad idea?
>Have a nice weekend blue skies and fair winds.........
>Snuffy (owner of fancy lads and other stubborn things)
If that's what it takes to make you feel better, Jinnie - you
certainly don't own anything remotely resembling an ability to make a
case against the idea that a pincheck in the airplane isn't a bad idea
- among many other examples.
...bsrp
...jlk
Big Jim
This coming from an idiot whose whole life revolves a around a year he spent
in SE Asia, 38 years ago.
""Nope I have plenty of hired help""
Bullshit.
The only "help" you hire is help with your need for attention that you paid
for, a long time ago, with any credibility you may have had by posting shit
talk on here so Chuck and Jerry can beat you over the head thus satisfying
your need for attention.
High price to pay. Good thing for you neither of them is very demanding
because you ran out of creditability a long time ago.
the unknown flailer
> On 9 Mar 2007 12:45:10 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Mar 9, 12:56 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
> >> On 9 Mar 2007 09:22:51 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >On Mar 9, 3:17 am, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Big snip<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >> > ...bsrp
>
> >> >3:17 am? Uh huh setting up all night thinking about big daddy and what
> >> >he had to say huh? HAW HAW HAW ~I own you~
>
> >> Not at all - for all you know I coulda just come back from work or
> >> from overseas or could be posting from anywhere - pick a time zone,
> >> dingleberry. Besides, is that all you got now? Working the late
> >> night post angle? Shit, you just didn't have an answer for any of the
> >> questions or ideas. Weak, Jinnie.
>
> >> ...bsrp
> >> ...jlk
>
> >Why does what I'm thinking bother you then?
>
> It doesn't bother me, dingleberry
appears to by the amount of yowling you do over it
> Not in the slightest, dingleberry - as a matter of fact, in the
> various circumstances where I have left you alone, just a matter of
> time, provenly so, where you started making those cries for help -
> such is the life of the troll - no self control and owned. I dare you
> to prove how owned you are not, Jinnie - how much does having that
> "last word" really own you?
Here I am, went to a better FJC than you....learned the craft at a
stricter DZ, one that didn't toady to AFF students who sucked up or
let them wear booty's, the DZ put it out there and it was up to the
student to get it.. I went S/L and that might be another slight
difference at least 5 or 6 years ahead of you so that nullifies about
2,500 of your quick camera jumps......All I'm trying to do is help you
work out your pin psychosis and you throw a tantrum. Shit not even a
thanks for the free therapy. Last word? I'm probably the first adult
you haven't been able to wear down with your bitching. ;)
> >BTW I don't care if you pin check on the aircraft,
>
> Whoopty shit, sure wouldn't have guessed that with the hissy yoyu've
> been throwing just because there was an idea that getting a pin check
> on an aircraft wasn't a bad idea.
A better idea is to check it before you put the rig on then get a
outside opinion before loading if you don't trust your loop or
packing, that way you don't pass on your fear on the climb to altitude
or cause a commotion in a already crowded cabin. I think you just like
being a drama queen Jerry. ;)
>
> >s long as you pin
> >check before putting on your rig and get a 2nd opinion before boarding
> >if theirs a delay considering your pin fear runs so deep and yawl
> >ain't holding me up screwing around after DOOR is called,
>
> Why Jinie? What are you afraid of?
Nothing, just working with you on your fears boy.
> >knock yourself out on the pin checks kid.
>
> Ya know - I think you're afraid to admit getting a pincheck in an
> airplane isn't a bad idea.
Lets see crowded, aircraft bounce......Maybe a little sway,
everybody's concentrating on feeling their own shit while thinking
about the exit order and somebody's going to pull your flap up while
everybody standing is in a stooped position, trying to shuffle to the
door? Nope not a good idea, this ain't the airborne boy its skydiving.
You should be able to check your own shit........YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN
READY WHEN YOU BORDED GIRLYBOY! Can't you reach back and feel your own
pin.... You have to disturb the zen to have center stage?
> >if it dislodges because of worry
> >and being fooled with so much don't blame it on me.
>
> Hell, if you dislodged it, you'd catch your share of shit - not that
> you would stay to take your lumps - as past example has shown.
That must be the Co Van in me, stay in the shadows and fade back when
the shit hits the fan and call in Air Support.....you ain't supposed
to be leading the Foreign troops, just training and supporting them in
the field. So naturally some crybaby goes running to the S&TA I'm
gone. I generally waited till towards the end of the day to pull my
scare the sissy's stunts anyway hahahahaha
> >I'm just trying to
> >impart a little Zen in a bootee boy with a freaked out over his pin
> >thing going on.
>
> So, explain how full of zen is having a hissy fit, assigning fear,
> failing to suggest pertinant examples against, and ultimately
> crabwalking away from the concept of the ~idea~ that a pincheck in the
> airplane is not a bad idea?
Crab walking? You are the one worried about whats loose behind you.
Me? Hell no
let the cookie crumble where it may, counter attack or throw in a few
flanking movements perhaps but crab walk sideways? Nope, thats
you.....crabbing towards the door going in a pee pee walk going "my
pin, my pin, is my pin falling out?"
>
> >Have a nice weekend blue skies and fair winds.........
> >Snuffy (owner of fancy lads and other stubborn things)
>
> If that's what it takes to make you feel better, Jinnie - you
> certainly don't own anything remotely resembling an ability to make a
> case against the idea that a pincheck in the airplane isn't a bad idea
> - among many other examples.
Learn to check your pin by feel boy, used to see the better skydivers
do it all the time.
Mine? It had been checked twice already before boarding I never sweat
ed it unless the flap hung on something or was dislodged.....You are
projecting a problem thats probably not going to be there kid, Its all
in your mind.......and it feeds on itself, before long the Otters just
going to go round and round because you have spread panic or dislodged
someones pin while flopping around crying! Now get your rig out and
set in the living room praticing the reach around pin check, while
your at it set against the wall and bounce against it against the wall
a few times then drag your ass across the carpet like a dog with ass
worms then get up and walk to your front door humped over.....walk
back to the center of the room and take your rig off then check the
pin, if you have a BOC and the pin came out seek rigger help cause you
have a gear problem! Bet you can't look at a pin without thinking of
Big Daddy this weekend
Balmy weekend, not supposed to rain till late Sunday according to
Channel 2 Have fun be safe and don't grease your pin with a lot of
oily fingering Jerry. 0~;-*
the unknown flailer
> "......It happened what 16 or 17 years ago,"
>
> This coming from an idiot whose whole life revolves a around a year he spent
> in SE Asia, 38 years ago.
No that would be 37 years ago for me and 38 or so for Chuck, the
standard tour for USN & USMC alike was 13 months.....Having to come
off that fire base for Tet Chuck may have had a nervous breakdown
before his tour was up, dunno.....he seems pretty strung out at times.
So what you want from me biggy, a rooting tooting sea story? ;)
> ""Nope I have plenty of hired help""
>
> Bullshit.
>
> The only "help" you hire is help with your need for attention that you paid
> for, a long time ago, with any credibility you may have had by posting shit
> talk on here so Chuck and Jerry can beat you over the head thus satisfying
> your need for attention.
>
Nah I have cleaning woman and a yard man....take most of my meals out
so I can set down at the Cafe and sharpen my wit on the other old got
nothing but time on my hands 70 something crowd who mostly insult each
other, tell jokes and drink coffee. Going to Devilsville tomorrow to
look at a mule bred out of a Belgian horse.....Big sucker I hear. My
retirement routine goes something like this.......In bed by 1 am, up
before daybreak.....check wreck to see who I pissed off, check e-mail
and my Lottery numbers then shit shower and shave try to be out the
door before 10 am to catch the $1.99 breakfast special for the over
65 farts in the area, come back check my RR box, check wreck watch
satellite DVR T.V........Try to be out the door before one to catch
the lunch special.....run errands.. back by 3 3:30. Saturday is the
sale barn day so my schedule switch's up. Being retired is tough kid,
hope you make it and have a better attitude when you do....Probably
not though, urban people seemed fairly stressed.......I was in a old
folks home back when my leg was broke and man them city people were
unhappy as hell.....just miserable, afraid someone else was going to
get one more thing than they got......Like a damn soap opera,
poulticing and stabbing each other in the back so here I am laughing
and having a good time flirting with the young chicks on
staff.....Damn having someone around being all happy just made them
madder, kind of like on wreck.....Grouchy, ohhhh yeah you're going to
be what you are now attitude wise kid just 10 times worse. Try to find
some zen and be happy, don't jerryk out, turn it around now before you
get to old! ;)P
Big Jim
> standard tour for USN & USMC alike was 13 months.....
Ding....
Hate to break this to you right after the kind, caring advice and all but,
haven't you stated here that you were in RVN in 1969 ??
This is 2007.
2007-1969 = 38
Have a nice day.
the unknown flailer
Went over in June 1969 Came back in July 1970....so this July it will
be 37 years ago. I always call the tour a 69 because thats when it
started and the number 69 is prophetic.......I got a fucking by going
but old chuck? I'd call his a royal fucking, he can't use 69 as RF
sign though its mine. woo woo....you keeping up with all the numbers
boy? crunch them again.....man do I have to teach you fancylads
everything, including math?
the unknown flailer
> that you left. Shitbird, you got there when the war was just about
> over:)
>
> There I was, had a couple of tumors, gallbladder, 10 inches of colon,
> 13 inches of intestine a tangerine size mass and a cantaloupe sized
> abscess, the top of my bladder all surgically removed and treated with
> seed implants & radiation therapy only to have a surgical hernia
> manifest it's self. A friend wants to jump my military rig, he says
> no, and ask if I would go. I gave him some Jimmy's about the spine is
> shot, lucky to be walking, all the joints are bad so
> forth.............I rejoin USPA (unwillingly) get a lift ticket, new
> pilot, won't do anything except what he was told to do at altitude by
> the DZ operator, cowboy boots, blue jeans, 5 second delay, 4000'. no
> sweat, exited and looked down to my chest to see the hernia pop out, I
> was impressed, pushed it back in and my right cowboy boot started to
> inflate, pull, get out of that stuff, land in the pea's, but the heals
> on the boots are like anchors and it's feet, knees and
> hands..............Snuff, I wish that you would take me up on my
> offer, what a hoot. If we can't make fun of ourselves, who can we make
> fun of
Jerry to start with ;)
the unknown flailer
> that you left. Shitbird, you got there when the war was just about
> over:)
The U.S, didn't cut and run till about 1975 did they? I'm just helping
biggy with concept and his math.......12 months in a year, standard
tours were 13 months
for USN & MC.....Shit even if I had arrived January 1st 1969 I would
have came back in 1970. The Navy was good about honoring their word
and contracts back then. They had a few tricks up their sleeve though,
get wounded just right and they could shimmy a 13 month tour into a
couple of years....If a sailor could be patched up and brought up to
near 100 percent functioning again they would move him from a in
country medevac to a Hospital Ship or Japan till he healed then send
him back to finish his 13 month tour, specially if by type his type
were hard in a time consuming way to train such as Co Vans. Another
misconception biggy butt has is years were kept even on any duty or
transfer in the military. They sent sailors to new duty stations as
they became available....DOD or in my case BuPers couldn't and didn't
say "oh its a new year, lets transfer everybody so our calendar stays
even. Find that chicken shit petty officer thats been making fun of
us, were sending his trouble making ass to Vietnam! Nope that ain't
the way they done things. Duty Tours world wide varied in the Navy,
the Average was 18 to 24 months then transfer ready or not....I
slicked my tour in Europe into 36 months because after a decade of
being bent over I was learning how to work the system. Yep these 21
century youngsters have trouble with concept, they think everything
falls on even dates and tours are based on 12 months in the olden
military. I just try to educate them, you know expand their minds.
Have a good weekend Mr. Cranky butt or should I say Mr. two assholes?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
the unknown flailer
> On Mar 9, 7:48?pm, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 9, 6:04 pm, "Big Jim" <lisaj...@the-beach.net> wrote:
>
> > > This coming from an idiot whose whole life revolves a around a year he spent
> > > in SE Asia, 38 years ago.
>
> > No that would be 37 years ago for me and 38 or so for Chuck, the
> > standard tour for USN & USMC alike was 13 months.....Having to come
> > off that fire base for Tet Chuck may have had a nervous breakdown
> > before his tour was up, dunno.....he seems pretty strung out at times.
> > So what you want from me biggy, a rooting tooting sea story? ?;)
> There you go, trying to associate yourself with the Marine Corps
> again. Jimmy, you have got to speak for yourself and not for Chuck:)
> Chuck got there in 67' and extended in 68' It's been like 39 years
> since I started to forget about it,
Read it again, I said 38 years or so for Chuck.....the so is a key
word.
>you might want to check with one
> of those VA centers and ask about post partum Ho Chi Min syndrome
> treatment
There is a clause that lets Co Vans skip those pity parties. Think
about it, a guy who
served with exclusively with Vietnamese units .....shared their food,
lifestyle, hardships etc.... having to set around listening to Vets
who served as Conventional troops run down the Vietnamese. And I mean
blame every last little thing on them and their country when it was
their own country who put them there in one of this country's greatest
foreign blunders of all time? Nope it won't wash, first sea story I
told would cause a riot hahahahaha.......Besides I ain't crazy, just
different. A favorite classification of the time by people without a
clue was "He or they have gone native." No hope Chuck. I'll be me till
I die. 0~;-*
, I.E.: quit worrying about Jerry's pin check and enjoy what
> remains of life.
Helping Jerry with his little girl problems is my life Chuck
I can't speak for you,
No you can't, you weren't a Co Van.
but the gunshot thru the ass
> enlarged the asshole that I am today. Did your get shot thru the ass
> Jimmy?:):):):):)
>
No I was quite liked by my people, they would never shoot me. Hard to
do anyway because I was lurking in the shadows behind them most of the
time you know what you call it coaching or Advising. Here's a tip
Gomer. Always keep the enemy to the front and preferably keep
something or somebody between you and them. It cuts down on ass shots
hahahaha Gyreens HAHAHAHAHAHA HO HO HO
> BTW. all the fuck each other shit. come on, Dave, these guys aren't
> queer and we all know what you're trying to say.
?????? are you picking up post's that I'm not getting or just having a
Ng flash back
from the days of Dave??
Tommy
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hey there Snuff, that's not a pity party, that's being proud of
myself. I want you to follow the Marine Corps to the beach and do that
Tandem Jump! Otherwise, I'll go to the grave believing that you got
shot in the ass:)
Tommy
>
> - Show quoted text -
This might help you a little Snuff.
. livendive View profile
On Feb 22, 1:07 pm, "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhonda...@gmail.com> wrote: >
Skypunk107 wrote: > > Didn't think I could ever be away from it
long enough to hear > > that Scotty would find a willing mate that
wasn't married to someone > > else. I probably need to sell all my
gear!!!!! Surprised that > > Gravity hasn't reversed itself,
although if it had I would know know > > why. > Scotty and Tami got
married at the WFFC in 2002. > > and like that yo!!!! > -- > Rhonda
Lea Kirk > Happiness limits the amount of suffering one is > willing
to inflict on others. Ph�dre n� Delaunay So this is where you've been
hiding from me! When I first met Tami, her best friend was frequently
referred to as "Crazy Mary" (the fact that I immediately started
seeing someone with such a nickname probably says something about
me). Given that, Tami eventually meeting and then marrying Scotty
didn't come as much surprise to me. :-D Oh, and Jerry and Jimmy, would
you two just fuck and get it over with? Blues, Dave - Hide quoted text
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Date: 9 Mar 2007 13:49:30 -0800
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On Feb 22, 1:07 pm, "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhonda...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Skypunk107 wrote:
> > Didn't think I could ever be away from it long enough to hear
> > that Scotty would find a willing mate that wasn't married to someone
> > else. I probably need to sell all my gear!!!!! Surprised that
> > Gravity hasn't reversed itself, although if it had I would know know
> > why.
> Scotty and Tami got married at the WFFC in 2002.
> > and like that yo!!!!
> --
> Rhonda Lea Kirk
> Happiness limits the amount of suffering one is
> willing to inflict on others. Phèdre nó Delaunay
So this is where you've been hiding from me!
When I first met Tami, her best friend was frequently referred to as
"Crazy Mary" (the fact that I immediately started seeing someone with
such a nickname probably says something about me). Given that, Tami
eventually meeting and then marrying Scotty didn't come as much
surprise to me. :-D
Oh, and Jerry and Jimmy, would you two just fuck and get it over
with?
Blues,
Dave
the unknown flailer
> On Mar 10, 9:28?am, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
> > > BTW. all the fuck each other shit. come on, Dave, these guys aren't
> > > queer and we all know what you're trying to say.
>
> > ?????? are you picking up post's that I'm not getting or just having a
> > Ng flash back from the days of Dave??- Hide quoted text -
>
> with?
>
> Blues,
> Dave-
So he's into encouraging kinky homo sex now huh? Thanks Tommy his
post didn't get thru on my NG reader....I'm helping Jerry with his pin
fear right now, think physical
Doctor-patient relationships violate the hippocratic oath, One of the
Florida skydiving fairys will probably be glad to do Jerry for Dave's
viewing pleasure though....Ask Biggy Jim. Dave's suggestion is part of
the South Beach lifestyle I'm thinking. 0~;)
the unknown flailer
>
> > , I.E.: quit worrying about Jerry's pin check and enjoy what
>
> > > remains of life.
>
> > Helping Jerry with his little girl problems is my life Chuck
>
>
> > No you can't, you weren't a Co Van.
>
> > but the gunshot thru the ass> enlarged the asshole that I am today. Did your get shot thru the ass
> > > Jimmy?:):):):):)
>
> > No I was quite liked by my people, they would never shoot me. Hard to
> > do anyway because I was lurking in the shadows behind them most of the
> > Gomer. Always keep the enemy to the front and preferably keep
> > something or somebody between you and them. It cuts down on ass shots
> > hahahaha Gyreens HAHAHAHAHAHA HO HO HO
> Hey there Snuff, that's not a pity party, that's being proud of
> myself. I want you to follow the Marine Corps to the beach and do that
> Tandem Jump! Otherwise, I'll go to the grave believing that you got
> shot in the ass:)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Not me... Chuck claims he was shot in the ass, he's just looking for a
excuse to blame it on a sailor and we never shot maggies drawers on
the range. ;)P
the unknown flailer
>
> OK, let's split some straws. The time that you got there vs the time
> that you left. Shitbird, you got there when the war was just about
> over:)
Funny I heard the pull out was around 1975.....69/70? They were trying
to replace the troops and equipment lost during Tet. And there the Co
Vans were, in the PLF/NLF's way-pulling underhanded shit from the
shadows....directing a interdiction
> There I was, had a couple of tumors, gallbladder, 10 inches of colon,
> 13 inches of intestine a tangerine size mass and a cantaloupe sized
> abscess, the top of my bladder all surgically removed and treated with
> seed implants & radiation therapy only to have a surgical hernia
> manifest it's self. A friend wants to jump my military rig, he says
> no, and ask if I would go. I gave him some Jimmy's about the spine is
> shot, lucky to be walking, all the joints are bad so
> forth.............I rejoin USPA (unwillingly) get a lift ticket, new
> pilot, won't do anything except what he was told to do at altitude by
> the DZ operator, cowboy boots, blue jeans, 5 second delay, 4000'. no
> sweat, exited and looked down to my chest to see the hernia pop out, I
> was impressed, pushed it back in and my right cowboy boot started to
> inflate, pull, get out of that stuff, land in the pea's, but the heals
> on the boots are like anchors and it's feet, knees and
> hands..............
What, no brown stains on the skivies? I mean here we have a bag of
guts leaking from
two holes with all the bile backed up inside trying to create a third?
Man their has to be some hash marks on your skivvies....Come on drop
those drawers for a NCO's inspection! hup hup
>Snuff, I wish that you would take me up on my
> offer,
Sin loy Gomer, don't trust you. You weren't intelligent enough quality
to pass a simple ASAT and get in the Navy, too low brow and poorly
trained by the mid-1960's MC to be considered much less selected for
a Co Van program........ even as a advisor to the ROKS. That's two
selection process's & a whole bunch of training you missed.....Failed
one and were not even considered for the second. I wouldn't trust you
with Jerry girls pin check.
what a hoot. If we can't make fun of ourselves, who can we make
> fun of?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I'm kinda fond of making fun of Jerry and the other vain bootee boys.
0~;)P
Big Jim
> the South Beach lifestyle I'm thinking. 0~;)
Ding..-
I had nothing to do with your application for bathroom attendant at the
local gay bar being rejected. Stop taking it out on me. Take my advice
though, stick to Montrose. They've had more exposure to country types
there in Texas.
the unknown flailer
I done whipped on Cuck & Jerry so bad with my Eastex logic their off
hiding and licking their wounds, you want some back woods point of
view and philosophy
also South Beach Boy?
Big Jim
More likely you bored them to the point of not bothering to respond.
Maybe I can get the addresses of a couple of gay bars in Fort Lauderdale for
you to send your resume to.
sky...@pdq.net
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Mar 12, 5:17 pm, "Big Jim" <lisaj...@the-beach.net> wrote:
>> . Dave's suggestion is part of
>>
>> > the South Beach lifestyle I'm thinking. 0~;)
>>
>> Ding..-
>>
>> I had nothing to do with your application for bathroom attendant at the
>> local gay bar being rejected. Stop taking it out on me. Take my advice
>> though, stick to Montrose. They've had more exposure to country types
>> there in Texas.
>
>I done whipped on Cuck & Jerry
Oh...yeah...whipped. Bigtime.
>so bad with my Eastex logic their off
>hiding and licking their wounds,
Oh...yeah...hiding...wounds or something...
>you want some back woods point of
>view and philosophy
>also South Beach Boy?
Is this the point where you call people gay or where if they're
responding they're "addicted" and if they're not they're "hiding" or
"lurking" or some such?
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> <<I done whipped on Chuck & Jerry so bad...
>
> More likely you bored them to the point of not bothering to respond.
>
> Maybe I can get the addresses of a couple of gay bars in Fort Lauderdale for
> you to send your resume to.
Well stick around kid, I think Google is trying to separate Jerry and
I, His posts disappear then come back like a dump truck just backed in
and dumped them.
My replies to him don't show up for a few days, then suddenly appear.
Yet I respond to one of yours and its up on my reader within minutes.
It acts bogged down, but that can't be....their are only 245
subscribers of which only 3 or 4 are posting regularly Maybe their
tweaking the system. I know their constantly changing the method of
notification. Just stick around you seem less strident and more hip
than Jerry Girl,
you might get his slot since he can't stay in the formation
the unknown flailer
sky...@pdq.net
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
Focus and pay attention, Jinnie.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> >On Mar 12, 10:59 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>
> >> ...bsrp
> >> ...jlk
>
> >What?
>
> Focus and pay attention, Jinnie.
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
Hard to do when you go on and on like a neurotic female, get to the
point bitch!
sky...@pdq.net
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
Oh, poor baby, Jinnie - can't focus enough to follow a straight line
of reasoning leading to solid points, can you? Or is it maybe you
just don't like the points the reasoning arrives at. It isn't rocket
science, Jinnie. I mean, you seem adpet enough at going line by line,
word by word, looking for an exception or some bit of anal minutia you
can latch upon to dismiss or just plain ignore the point - you're just
having cramps because of the veritable lack of wiggle room you're
getting. Sure, what with your "I done whipped on Cuck & Jerry so bad
with my Eastex logic their off hiding and licking their wounds," I
suppose the illustrated and evident point that that statement of yours
is just so much gas can't be considered, if it ever crossed your mind.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> with my Eastex logic their off hiding and licking their wounds," I
> suppose the illustrated and evident point that that statement of yours
> is just so much gas can't be considered, if it ever crossed your mind.
>
> ...bsrp
>
> - Show quoted text -
Edit it down, see I did it for you this time...Remember, short and
concise
sky...@pdq.net
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
Edit yourself next time, dingleberry - I'm still waiting for some
demonstration of this supposed, "I done whipped on Cuck & Jerry" Wow
- I guess you certainly done your little monkey dance but as for
whipped? I know you love my lashes, sweetie.
...bsrp
...jlk
sky...@pdq.net
wrote:
>On Mar 9, 4:34 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>> On 9 Mar 2007 12:45:10 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Mar 9, 12:56 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>> >> On 9 Mar 2007 09:22:51 -0800, "the unknown flailer" <thuy...@iwon.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >On Mar 9, 3:17 am, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Big snip<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>> >> > ...bsrp
>>
>> >> >3:17 am? Uh huh setting up all night thinking about big daddy and what
>> >> >he had to say huh? HAW HAW HAW ~I own you~
>>
>> >> Not at all - for all you know I coulda just come back from work or
>> >> from overseas or could be posting from anywhere - pick a time zone,
>> >> dingleberry. Besides, is that all you got now? Working the late
>> >> night post angle? Shit, you just didn't have an answer for any of the
>> >> questions or ideas. Weak, Jinnie.
>>
>> >> ...bsrp
>> >> ...jlk
>>
>> >Why does what I'm thinking bother you then?
>>
>> It doesn't bother me, dingleberry
>
>appears to by the amount of yowling you do over it
As ever, what "appears" to you is often not in reality the case. You
confuse deconstruction with being rooted in "bother," whereas the
reality is, this is little more than an exercise in performance art at
its most absurd.
>
>> Not in the slightest, dingleberry - as a matter of fact, in the
>> various circumstances where I have left you alone, just a matter of
>> time, provenly so, where you started making those cries for help -
>> such is the life of the troll - no self control and owned. I dare you
>> to prove how owned you are not, Jinnie - how much does having that
>> "last word" really own you?
>
>
>Here I am,
Not jumping
>went to a better FJC than you...
Better? Hmmm - I was cleared to JM myself after jump #7, and still
jumping. How'd it work out for you? I mean, I'm sure where you fell
behind wasn't so much the school but the student and while the JM's I
had were kick ass, getting cleared to JM yourself by jump #8 wasn't
really unheard of at where I learned to jump - if you listened and did
what they instructed, that is.
>.learned the craft at a
>stricter DZ,
"Stricter" in that you skittered off the dz when you screwed up? That
kinda "stricter?"
>one that didn't toady to AFF students who sucked up or
>let them wear booty's,
You would think that they'd be more interested in failing students so
to get more student jumps out of them, wouldn't you, Jinnie? You
know, USPA GM dz and all? Wait - you were jumping at one of those
places, too? So, since the place you jumped at didn't "toady up" and
other rhetorically bullshit things, how many jumps, how long was it
before you were cleared to JM yourself? Hell, how long until you fell
stable two jumps in a row?
>the DZ put it out there and it was up to the
>student to get it..
What, they announce this over the PA? Broadsheet? Skywriting? Or
maybe some JM told you, you just had to get your shit together and
start listening, otherwise you might have to consider taking up
bowling. That how it went?
> I went S/L and that might be another slight
>difference at least 5 or 6 years ahead of you so that nullifies about
>2,500 of your quick camera jumps....
No, it doesn't in the slightest. I mean, if it makes you feel better
to think that all those jumps and all that airtime are "nullified,"
feel free, Jinnie - I still made them and am still making more (knock
wood) - and no amount of anal disqualification because you learned to
jump at some point in time at some place is gonna change that. You
wanna work some pissing contest about something so subjective as what
is better and what is worse and qualify it with something objective
like numbers of jumps just ain't gonna cut it, dingleberry. Not even
a good try.
>..All I'm trying to do is help you
>work out your pin psychosis and you throw a tantrum.
Hell, Jinnie - all I suggested was the idea that a pincheck in an
aircraft isn't a bad idea - you're the one who started getting cramps
about "pin fear," ad naseum.
>Shit not even a
>thanks for the free therapy.
Quit your whining, you big girl. When the door hits you on the ass on
your way out of here, I'll thank the door.
>ast word? I'm probably the first adult
>you haven't been able to wear down with your bitching.
Sorry, Jinnie - there a big difference between point by point
deconstruction of your crap with some ridicule thrown in for sport and
bitching. Gargling crap like, "Shit not even a thanks for the free
therapy," is bitching. As to "wearing down," you may be feeling worn
down, you said it, not I, but that's hardly the goal here, dumbass -
if you weren't so self-involved and ego-centric you'd see that.
>
>> >BTW I don't care if you pin check on the aircraft,
>>
>> Whoopty shit, sure wouldn't have guessed that with the hissy yoyu've
>> been throwing just because there was an idea that getting a pin check
>> on an aircraft wasn't a bad idea.
>
>A better idea is to check it before you put the rig on then get a
>outside opinion before loading if you don't trust your loop or
>packing, that way you don't pass on your fear on the climb to altitude
>or cause a commotion in a already crowded cabin. I think you just like
>being a drama queen Jerry.
No, while we're being objective here as in what's better or worse, a
pincheck in the airplane is better than one on the ground because no
pincheck on the ground has ever caught gear which was no longer set
right in the air.
>>
>> >s long as you pin
>> >check before putting on your rig and get a 2nd opinion before boarding
>> >if theirs a delay considering your pin fear runs so deep and yawl
>> >ain't holding me up screwing around after DOOR is called,
>>
>> Why Jinie? What are you afraid of?
>
>Nothing, just working with you on your fears boy.
Yo, Jinnie - a pincheck in the airplane is better than one on the
ground. So, what's it gonna be - you gonna argue against or are you
just gonna take the chickenshit, fearfull route and suggest this idea
is just an expression of fear while never explaining how a pincheck on
the ground can discover a problem in the air?
>
>> >knock yourself out on the pin checks kid.
>>
>> Ya know - I think you're afraid to admit getting a pincheck in an
>> airplane isn't a bad idea.
>
>Lets see crowded, aircraft bounce......Maybe a little sway,
>everybody's concentrating on feeling their own shit while thinking
>about the exit order and somebody's going to pull your flap up while
>everybody standing is in a stooped position, trying to shuffle to the
>door? Nope not a good idea, this ain't the airborne boy its skydiving.
Not that you ever had a clue about skydiving. So, Jinnie - where do
you jump where pinchecks in the airplane either all happen at one
specific time or even when everyone is doing one specific thing?
Further, what planet do they do pinchecks when everyone is standing
stooped or even moving towards the door? Most pinchecks I see, more
than ones in the loading area by about 2:1, are in the airplane,
normally while finishing the last orbit before the base is run to the
turn for jumprun. But no, you can't imagine this bit of inconvienent
reality. For you it just has to be at a specific, ridiculous moment,
just prior to exit - nevermind that this is clearly imagination on
your part since you lack the experience and it doesn't even come close
to supporting any sort of realistic argument that getting a pincheck
in an airplane is a bad idea.
>You should be able to check your own shit....
Who says I can't?
>....YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN
>READY WHEN YOU BORDED GIRLYBOY!
Gee, I bothering someone yet? Relax, dingleberry - you don't even go
to dropzones so let it go. None too zen budda-kup.
>Can't you reach back and feel your own
>pin...
Sure - can you reach down and pull your head out of your ass?
> You have to disturb the zen to have center stage?
I dunno, Jinnie - ain't me typing in all caps and getting all bent out
of shape here. All I said was getting a pincheck in an airplane isn't
a bad idea. Now, I'm saying it's a better idea than getting one in
the loading area. Is your head so far up your ass that you're now
trying to contemplate your navel from the inside?
>
>> >if it dislodges because of worry
>> >and being fooled with so much don't blame it on me.
>>
>> Hell, if you dislodged it, you'd catch your share of shit - not that
>> you would stay to take your lumps - as past example has shown.
>
>That must be the Co Van in me,
Is Co van some sort of codeword for coward?
>stay in the shadows and fade back when
>the shit hits the fan and call in Air Support...
So, after you pissed off the girls and another girl was coming over to
remind you and anyone listening how much of a novice you were and you
ran to the parking lot and squealed your tires out of there (AKA "stay
in the shadows and fade back when the shit hits the fan") what sort of
air support you call in and when you called it in, did you have to use
long distance?
>..you ain't supposed
>to be leading the Foreign troops, just training and supporting them in
>the field. So naturally some crybaby goes running to the S&TA I'm
>gone.
Well, naturally if you're a coward or scared of girls, or just plain
mortified at the prospect of someone reminding you in public how much
of a novice you were.
>I generally waited till towards the end of the day to pull my
>scare the sissy's stunts anyway
And this was even at "under 40 jumps," eh? So, what jump number were
you at when you were cleared to JM yourself, dingleberry?
>
> > >I'm just trying to
>> >impart a little Zen in a bootee boy with a freaked out over his pin
>> >thing going on.
>>
>> So, explain how full of zen is having a hissy fit, assigning fear,
>> failing to suggest pertinant examples against, and ultimately
>> crabwalking away from the concept of the ~idea~ that a pincheck in the
>> airplane is not a bad idea?
>
>Crab walking? You are the one worried about whats loose behind you.
What, just by suggesting the idea that getting a pincheck in an
airplane isn't a bad idea? That ain't worry, Jinnie. Worry is
getting a pincheck in the loading area because you fear your pin might
have come loose sometime between putting it on and walking to the
loading area.
>Me? Hell no
>let the cookie crumble where it may,
So, why do you have such huge cramps going on about the idea that
getting a pincheck in an airplane isn't a bad idea when, as you say,
"let the cookie crumble where it may?"
>counter attack or throw in a few
>flanking movements perhaps but crab walk sideways?
Counter attack? Flanking movements? Hardly. Youve been sihoetted
against the sky this entire exchange and all you can do is move
sideways on the ridge. I mean, you've already admitted that there are
circumstances where getting a pincheck in an airplane isn't a bad idea
and what with all the shrieking and crying you've done regarding the
idea before this admission, that's some serious crabwalking.
>Nope, thats
>you.....crabbing towards the door going in a pee pee walk going "my
>pin, my pin, is my pin falling out?"
Oh, what a cutting jab, dingleberry. Giving voice to an imagination
towards the purpose of soothing personal affirmation. You don't have
an argument so now it's the suggestion of the imagined tableau of
ridiculous proportions. Not that this suggestion of your is based on
anything other than my expression of the idea that getting a pincheck
in an airplane isn't a bad idea. From this you have extrapolated a
bullshit scenario where a pincheck is being entreated to occur while
moving towards the exit. Not even a good try, dingleberry.
Crabwalking? That's you, Jinnie. Crabwalking from side to side so
you only have to turn 90 degrees when you get to the next person in
the loading area going, "My pin, check my pin - it might fall out
before I board and everyone will be laughing at me -------> again.
>>
>> >Have a nice weekend blue skies and fair winds.........
>> >Snuffy (owner of fancy lads and other stubborn things)
>>
>> If that's what it takes to make you feel better, Jinnie - you
>> certainly don't own anything remotely resembling an ability to make a
>> case against the idea that a pincheck in the airplane isn't a bad idea
>> - among many other examples.
>
>Learn to check your pin by feel boy,
Who says I haven't and besides - another set of eyes ain't a bad idea,
either. Is that how you check for the little sailor inside you,
Jinnie? Oh, wait - your head's still up there - nevermind.
>used to see the better skydivers
>do it all the time.
Which absolutely explains why you had some premature openings. What
happened, Jinnie - were you waiting for your own USPA Better Skydiver
Certificate before you started checking your own with your hand?
>Mine? It had been checked twice already before boarding I never sweat
>ed it unless the flap hung on something or was dislodged...
"Hung on something or was dislodged" where, Jinnie? In the airplane?
How can that happen when you checked it twice on the ground?
>..You are
>projecting a problem thats probably not going to be there kid,
Shit, Jinnie - I might know the pin is there and the person who
checked my pin in the loading area might know the pin is there but if
say the the back of the rig "hung on something or was dislodged," the
pin might not know it's there. But then, if it's been checked twice
on the ground there's no way anything can happen once you board, eh?
>Its all
>in your mind....
No, if you've seen a rig come open in an airplane or on climbout or
even a horsehoe, it isn't something lurking only in imagination and
there's empiracal real life experience to back up the idea that
getting a pincheck in the airplane isn't a bad idea.
>...and it feeds on itself, before long the Otters just
>going to go round and round because you have spread panic or dislodged
>someones pin while flopping around crying!
No, that's ridiculous. The fact of the matter is, the airpane flies
up towards altitude and round about 5 minutes before door is called,
people are checking their shit and others and getting pinchecks if
they want and no amount of chain yank imagination is going to change
this reality, dingleberry. If it makes you feel better to imagine
someone who isn't stroking your ego in some ridiculous circumstance or
scenario, have a party - just keep in mind that not only is a pincheck
in an airplane not a bad idea, it's a btter idea than doing it in the
loading area to the exclusion of the one in the airplane.
>ow get your rig out and
>set in the living room praticing the reach around pin check,
You first. Ater you're done, I wanna see you in the airplane reaching
around and checking your own pin and if anyone asks you to check their
pin (heh) I wanna see you eyeball that pin without knocking it loose.
>while
>your at it set against the wall and bounce against it against the wall
>a few times then drag your ass across the carpet like a dog with ass
>worms then get up and walk to your front door humped over.....walk
>back to the center of the room and take your rig off then check the
>pin,
Shit, while you're at it I wanna see you get a pincheck in the loading
area and after you get in the airplane I want to see that pincheck in
the loading area discover someone or something has knocked or pulled
your pin loose while you were in the airplane.
>if you have a BOC and the pin came out seek rigger help cause you
>have a gear problem!
Hell, if you have a ROL, go see a rigger - the pin doesn't even to
come out to make that determination - it's not a very dynamic system.
About that horseshoe of yours, Jinnie? ROL?
>Bet you can't look at a pin without thinking of
>Big Daddy this weekend
Bet you I did.
>Balmy weekend, not supposed to rain till late Sunday according to
>Channel 2 Have fun be safe and don't grease your pin with a lot of
>oily fingering Jerry.
No worries - I'm always open to ideas which aren't bad so if there's
some anomaly with the deployment system in the airplane, I won't have
to rely on that pincheck in the loading area to catch it.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
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edit it down crybaby
sky...@pdq.net
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
You first, dingleberry. But then, saying "edit it down" certainly is
no answer to all of the points and digs above. How come you don't
have an answer, Jinnie? Why are you now working the how the argument
is presented or dressed angle as opposed to addressing the argument
itself? Simple answer - you just don't have an answer, do you? Edit
it yourself and how about some answers (for a change) 'cause until
then, no response is as good as agreement when it comes to puncturing
the egos of dingleberries. The long answer is all detailed, up above
- which you failed to eidt out in your ""edit it down" miserable
excuse for a response.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> no answer to all of the points and digs above.
> ...jlk
oops I edited them and got to your last sentence to save time, now it
appears your last sentence means nothing
without the digs above which have been edited down to less than zero
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
sky...@pdq.net
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
Which also suggests that before you edited it, it must have meant
something - and probably something non-ego stroking to you which is
why you did edit it down to something more palatable for you. Pretty
weak, Jinnie - is that why you ran, shrieking for cover when the
girls were coming to kick your ass? So it was hightail it out of
there because you didn't have an answer you could give or a means to
edit what was gonna be said?
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> >On Mar 14, 12:18 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
> >> On 14 Mar 2007 07:05:04 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
>
> >> You first, dingleberry. But then, saying "edit it down" certainly is
> >> no answer to all of the points and digs above.
> >> ...bsrp
> >> ...jlk
>
> >oops I edited them and got to your last sentence to save time, now it
> >appears your last sentence means nothing
> >without the digs above which have been edited down to less than zero
>
> Which also suggests that before you edited it, it must have meant
> something - and probably something non-ego stroking to you which is
> why you did edit it down to something more palatable for you. Pretty
> weak, Jinnie - is that why you ran, shrieking for cover when the
> girls were coming to kick your ass?
More a casual stroll over and put my gear in the car and leave thing
Jerry you might even call it slinking off because a posse was building
and I'm not into shouting match's, Had made my point....don't fuck
with the buda-kai, he's crazy! I prefer to look at as leaving the
battle field till next weekend....you know kinda escape and evasion----
live again to fight another day. I still laugh about their startled
reaction.
One of my more memorable jumps. Yep a real guerrilla style fighter
Jerry, never said it wasn't chicken shit but ohhhhhh it was beautiful.
Never did it again. Switched to using distasteful people as markers on
final approach. You know, see how close I could land without knocking
them down HAHAHAHAHAHA you should see people jump straight up or fall
down when they hear the thud behind them, its cool
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
sky...@pdq.net
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Mar 14, 8:18 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>> On 14 Mar 2007 16:34:12 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
>> Which also suggests that before you edited it, it must have meant
>> something - and probably something non-ego stroking to you which is
>> why you did edit it down to something more palatable for you. Pretty
>> weak, Jinnie - is that why you ran, shrieking for cover when the
>> girls were coming to kick your ass?
>
>More a casual stroll over and put my gear in the car and leave thing
Oh, so you running from the girls was more a casual thing, eh?
>Jerry you might even call it slinking off because a posse was building
>and I'm not into shouting match's,
I think fleeing from girls seems to be pretty apt.
>Had made my point....don't fuck
>with the buda-kai, he's crazy!
Yeah - he might kill you and if he doesn't, he'll certainly flee after
he tries. So, the girls were fucking with you, Jinnie? Now, why
would four girls be so cruel to a wittle less than 40 jump wonder like
yourself? How could they be so mean to you that you had no other
option but to put their lives in mortal danger without their
permission? Doesn't seem too zen to me, budda-kup
>I prefer to look at as leaving the
>battle field till next weekend...
Of course you do - routed by those meanie girls by any other
description.
>.you know kinda escape and evasion----
>live again to fight another day.
As opposed to taking your lumps and learning from it - I follow.
>I still laugh about their startled
>reaction.
They might still laugh about your "casual" fleeing.
>One of my more memorable jumps. Yep a real guerrilla style fighter
>Jerry, never said it wasn't chicken shit but ohhhhhh it was beautiful.
Beautifully chickenshit - and pretty selfish, for that matter.
>Never did it again. Switched to using distasteful people as markers on
>final approach. You know, see how close I could land without knocking
>them down
Are you talking about knocking them down by actually hitting them or
with the shockwave from your own impact?
>HAHAHAHAHAHA you should see people jump straight up or fall
>down when they hear the thud behind them, its cool
Oh, shockwave then.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On 14 Mar 2007 19:56:29 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> >More a casual stroll over and put my gear in the car and leave thing
>
> Oh, so you running from the girls was more a casual thing, eh?
How many over possessive girlfriends you had boy? yep about thats
right
Jerry you might even want to call it slinking off because a posse was
building
and I'm not into shouting match's or listening to over emotional
people try to state
their case. Although it was hilarious standing in the eves of that old
hanger watching Christi try to tell Mad Dog what happened. Like a six
year old girl blubbering while trying to tell a nun what a playground
meanie did
>
> I think fleeing from girls seems to be pretty apt.
>
> >Had made my point....don't fuck
> >with the buda-kai, he's crazy!
>
> Yeah - he might kill you and if he doesn't, he'll certainly flee after
> he tries.
I was a trained counter insurgent one must become a guerrilla to fight
guerrillas.
Do what you have to do then fade away to fight another day is my motto
I prefer to look at as leaving the battle field till next day...Let
your adversary stew a while. They begin to think....Where will he
strike next? Perhaps we should try to come to some agreement or go
bother conventional troops like the USMC.
>
> Of course you do - routed by those meanie girls by any other
> description.
Yeah, whatever works you know kinda escape and evasion----
live again to fight another day.
>
> As opposed to taking your lumps and learning from it - I follow.
>
> >I still laugh about their startled
> >reaction.
>
> They might still laugh about your "casual" fleeing.
Good, every bodies happy, thats the ideal situation around any given
DZ
> >One of my more memorable jumps. Yep a real guerrilla style fighter
> >Jerry, never said it wasn't chicken shit but ohhhhhh it was beautiful.
>
> Beautifully chickenshit - and pretty selfish, for that matter.
~Thats skydiving~
> >Never did it again. Switched to using distasteful people as markers on
> >final approach. You know, see how close I could land without knocking
> >them down
>
> Are you talking about knocking them down by actually hitting them or
> with the shockwave from your own impact?
>
> >HAHAHAHAHAHA you should see people jump straight up or fall
> >down when they hear the thud behind them, its cool
>
> Oh, shockwave then.
268 pounds of meat and gear you didn't see coming slamming in so close
you can feel the wind? Yes I expect so. 0~;-)
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
sky...@pdq.net
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Mar 15, 12:19 am, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>> On 14 Mar 2007 19:56:29 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
>
>> >More a casual stroll over and put my gear in the car and leave thing
>>
>> Oh, so you running from the girls was more a casual thing, eh?
>
>How many over possessive girlfriends you had boy? yep about thats
>right
>Jerry you might even want to call it slinking off because a posse was
>building
>and I'm not into shouting match's or listening to over emotional
>people try to state
>their case. Although it was hilarious standing in the eves of that old
>hanger watching Christi try to tell Mad Dog what happened. Like a six
>year old girl blubbering while trying to tell a nun what a playground
>meanie did
Nevermind that you said earlier that as soon as you landed you grabbed
your gear and immediately took it out to the parking lot and got out
of there. But then, there's a big difference between being a
"playground meanie" and being so out of control and unaware as to miss
freefalling into an open canopy with a hit or miss factor of by about
one second. But then, perhaps the "playground meanie" would be more
likely to run as opposed to staying and taking his lumps and perhaps
learning from his selfish stupidity.
>>
>> I think fleeing from girls seems to be pretty apt.
>>
>> >Had made my point....don't fuck
>> >with the buda-kai, he's crazy!
>>
>> Yeah - he might kill you and if he doesn't, he'll certainly flee after
>> he tries.
>
>I was a trained counter insurgent one must become a guerrilla to fight
>guerrillas.
You were a less than 40 jump wonder who got in over his head and ran
when he realized he had screwed up and there might be some public
humiliation coming down.
>Do what you have to do then fade away to fight another day is my motto
So, you just had to open about second away from other canopies in
their right of way? You just had to avoid being publicly reminded
that you were a novice?
>I prefer to look at as leaving the battle field till next day...Let
>your adversary stew a while. They begin to think....Where will he
>strike next? Perhaps we should try to come to some agreement or go
>bother conventional troops like the USMC.
It is what it is - you had less than 40 jumps, went low on a dive, got
some asinine idea to chase after a formation out ahead of you, went
after them, was hurtling at them when they broke and tracked, threw
out at the last second, opened stupidly close, and split the scene
rather than either 1) standing up for what you did since it was so
rightous or 2) take your due lumps while being reminded you were a
novice.
>>
>> Of course you do - routed by those meanie girls by any other
>> description.
>
>Yeah, whatever works you know kinda escape and evasion----
>live again to fight another day.
As if being reminded you were a novice would have killed you?
>>
>> As opposed to taking your lumps and learning from it - I follow.
>>
>> >I still laugh about their startled
>> >reaction.
>>
>> They might still laugh about your "casual" fleeing.
>
>Good, every bodies happy, thats the ideal situation around any given
>DZ
No, ideal is where dumbasses out of their element learn that it is
wrong to take advantage of others for their own selfish purposes.
>> >One of my more memorable jumps. Yep a real guerrilla style fighter
>> >Jerry, never said it wasn't chicken shit but ohhhhhh it was beautiful.
>>
>> Beautifully chickenshit - and pretty selfish, for that matter.
>
>~Thats skydiving~
No, skydiving may be for some people a selfish endeavor but thjere are
few skydivers who pulled the stunt you pulled and layed it off on
skydiving - as opposed to recognizing their own mistakes and learning
from it.
>
>> >Never did it again. Switched to using distasteful people as markers on
>> >final approach. You know, see how close I could land without knocking
>> >them down
>>
>> Are you talking about knocking them down by actually hitting them or
>> with the shockwave from your own impact?
>>
>> >HAHAHAHAHAHA you should see people jump straight up or fall
>> >down when they hear the thud behind them, its cool
>>
>> Oh, shockwave then.
>
>268 pounds of meat and gear you didn't see coming slamming in so close
>you can feel the wind? Yes I expect so.
I suppose some might either describe the pilot as being out of control
or stupidly unaware. How do you typify it, Jinnie?
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On 15 Mar 2007 07:19:05 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
>
>
>
>
>
> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 15, 12:19 am, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
> >> On 14 Mar 2007 19:56:29 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
>
> >> >More a casual stroll over and put my gear in the car and leave thing
>
> >DZ
>
> No, ideal is where dumbasses out of their element learn that it is
> wrong to take advantage of others for their own selfish purposes.
Well, lets see: I always heard the DZ is the best place to learn,
reckon I picked it up there from young selfish, self centered jumpers?
HAHAHAHAHAHA Bayda bing
> ...bsrp
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Footnote: You must use your lunch break to read what your arch villain
who goofs off 24/7 had to say while you were working. Hope you aren't
leaving cum stains all over your apartment or worse, on some junior
employees work station. 0~;)P
sky...@pdq.net
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Mar 15, 11:51 am, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>> On 15 Mar 2007 07:19:05 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>> No, ideal is where dumbasses out of their element learn that it is
>> wrong to take advantage of others for their own selfish purposes.
>
>Well, lets see: I always heard the DZ is the best place to learn,
>reckon I picked it up there from young selfish, self centered jumpers?
Which is a brilliant denial of personal responsibility - denying what
is pretty much one of the bedrocks of skydiving as far as attitude is
concerned.
>Footnote: You must use your lunch break to read what your arch villain
>who goofs off 24/7 had to say while you were working.
Shit, Jinnie - I could be posting from New Delhi for all you know. Got
up in the middle of the night to take of crap and thought of you.
>Hope you aren't
>leaving cum stains all over your apartment or worse, on some junior
>employees work station.
Hope you aren't focusing on another guy's ejaculate, dingleberry - oh,
wait - you are - you need to get out more, Jinnie.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On 15 Mar 2007 11:25:28 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
> >Well, lets see: I always heard the DZ is the best place to learn,
> >reckon I picked it up there from young selfish, self centered jumpers?
>
> >Footnote: You must use your lunch break to read what your arch villain
> >who goofs off 24/7 had to say while you were working.
>
> Shit, Jinnie - I could be posting from New Delhi for all you know. Got
> up in the middle of the night to take of crap and thought of you.
Yeah? Well if you were in India you would probably have the trots
24/7. Funny you had a flurry of posts right about lunch time in Texas.
Perhaps my editing gives you the diarrhea? Gunga Din bringee mem sahib
a cork for butt when evil thug edit her?
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
sky...@pdq.net
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Mar 15, 7:45 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>> On 15 Mar 2007 11:25:28 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
>
>> >Well, lets see: I always heard the DZ is the best place to learn,
>> >reckon I picked it up there from young selfish, self centered jumpers?
>>
>> >Footnote: You must use your lunch break to read what your arch villain
>> >who goofs off 24/7 had to say while you were working.
>>
>> Shit, Jinnie - I could be posting from New Delhi for all you know. Got
>> up in the middle of the night to take of crap and thought of you.
>
>Yeah? Well if you were in India you would probably have the trots
>24/7.
Not that this possibility confirms or denies what time zone I'm
posting from. Shit, I might be poting in rush hour traffic or at high
noon where I'm at. I mean, with the trouble you've had figuring out
google, maybe they've been "reconfiguring" their time clock or maybe
it's your isp.
>Funny you had a flurry of posts right about lunch time in Texas.
Or maybe they were typed earlier and timed to go out later? Perhaps
there's a time stamp randomizer? You don't know and at best can only
make ill-informed guesses.
>Perhaps my editing gives you the diarrhea?
Naw, you're the only one squirting brown in this conversation.
>Gunga Din bringee mem sahib
>a cork for butt when evil thug edit her?
With apologies to Kipling, You're the dingleberry, not I, Bunghole
Jin.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Top snip
> >Funny you had a flurry of posts right about lunch time in Texas.
>
middle snip
> >Perhaps my editing gives you the diarrhea?
>
> Naw, you're the only one squirting brown in this conversation.
>
> >Gunga Din bringee mem sahib
> >a cork for butt when evil thug edit her?
custom snip on Bungle holes last sentence
>
> With apologies to Kipling, You're the dingleberry, I, Bunghole
> Jin.
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
yup you are, without a doubt-------------------------GOT LAST WORD
0~;}
sky...@pdq.net
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
Trust the dinglberry to not only screw up lurking (- reading but not
commenting and in this case, incapable of relevant comment) by
commenting, he even screws up killfiling by reading a post and while
commenting, suggesting he isn't reading the post or elements of a post
he is "ignoring" by "snipping." Pretty lame, dingleberry - why don't
you just get it over with and say "plonk?" As for the rest, oh my -
I'm supposed to be annoyed or something because the dingleberry,
either because he is too stupid to remember that words actually
written remain on record, no matter how they might be changed by him,
or because he has realized that if he changes the words around, he
will be corrected for his banality and be reminded of it - and this
becomes for him a reaction which he put into motion and from this he
derives a sense of power - "I riled someone." - as if being
corrected for subsituting bullshit for reality is an expression of
annoyance - right, Jinnie. Of course, the reality is and the record
shows, when Jinnie wrote, "Gunga Din bringee mem sahib a cork for butt
when evil thug edit her?" I reponded with, "With apologies to Kipling,
You're the dingleberry, not I, Bunghole Jin." Snip away, dingleberry
- someday you might get the lurking or killfiling down but for now, I
know you got your hand full what with trying to understand how to
operate google.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On 27 Mar 2007 19:42:35 -0700, "the unknown flailer"
>
>
>
>
>
> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 15, 11:41 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
> >Top snip
>
> >> >Funny you had a flurry of posts right about lunch time in Texas.
>
> >middle snip
> >> >Perhaps my editing gives you the diarrhea?
>
> >> Naw, you're the only one squirting brown in this conversation.
>
> >> >a cork for butt when evil thug edit her?
>
> >custom snip on Bungle holes last sentence
>
> >> With apologies to Kipling, You're the dingleberry, I, Bunghole
> >> Jin.
>
> >> ...bsrp
> >> ...jlk
>
> >yup you are, without a doubt-------------------------GOT LAST WORD
>
> reading a post and while commenting, suggesting he isn't reading
the post or
> elements of a post
> he is "ignoring" by "snipping."
Lurking? I'm always on watch for the new enemy's of the free world--
bottom feeding USTA types
Kill file? Never owned one, I prefer to educate young twits not ignore
their crys for leadership.
Snipping? I prefer to think of it as editing long winded crybabies,
Pretty lame, dingleberry - why don't
> you just get it over with and say "plonk?" from this he
> derives a sense of power - "I riled someone."
Yes it appears to work
> Snip away, dingleberry
> - someday you might get the lurking or killfiling down but for now, I
> know you got your hand full what with trying to understand how to
> operate google.
>
Operate google? Nope totally missed the Jin post, someone alerted me
via
e-mail that you needed adult supervision <g>
sky...@pdq.net
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
Types? What happened to all that rhetoric about "judging everyone
individually," Jinnie?
>
>Kill file? Never owned one, I prefer to educate young twits not ignore
>their crys for leadership.
AKA - your ego won't let you consider allowing the prospect of someone
potentially writing something about you which you wouldn't be able to
see.
>
>Snipping? I prefer to think of it as editing long winded crybabies,
Except you can't edit the record, can you? The reality is, youi are
(currently) snipping what you don't have an answer for.
> Pretty lame, dingleberry - why don't
>> you just get it over with and say "plonk?" from this he
>> derives a sense of power - "I riled someone."
>
>Yes it appears to work
If you believe reponse equates to being "riled" - which is just the
same, old self-serving crap. No, as ever - you're just a dingleberry
pouring buckets of shit on your head and when someone points out the
brown and the smell, the best you can do is suggest that by
responding, someone is doing so for some politicially incorrect motive
- yet, never being able deny all that brown, lumpy stuff all over you.
> > Snip away, dingleberry
>> - someday you might get the lurking or killfiling down but for now, I
>> know you got your hand full what with trying to understand how to
>> operate google.
>>
>
>Operate google? Nope totally missed the Jin post, someone alerted me
>via
>e-mail that you needed adult supervision <g>
Wanna explain how, since you "totally missed the Jin post," you were
able to reply to it via google, dingleberry? You blaming the canopy
or the pilot?
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> >> >Top snip
>
> >> >> >Funny you had a flurry of posts right about lunch time in Texas.
>
> >> >middle snip
> >> >> >Perhaps my editing gives you the diarrhea?
>
> >> >> Naw, you're the only one squirting brown in this conversation.
>
> >> >> >Gunga Din bringer mem sahib
> >> >> >a cork for butt when evil thug edit her?
>
> >> >custom snip on Bungle holes last sentence
>
> >> >> With apologies to Kipling, You're the dingleberry, I, Bunghole
> >> >> Jin.
>
> >> >> ...bsrp
> >> >> ...jlk
>
> >> >yup you are, without a doubt-------------------------GOT LAST WORD
>
> > > reading a post and while commenting, suggesting he isn't reading
> >the post or
> >> elements of a post
> >> he is "ignoring" by "snipping."
>
> >Lurking? I'm always on watch for the new enemy's of the free world--
> >bottom feeding USTA types
>
> Types? What happened to all that rhetoric about "judging everyone
> individually," Jinnie?
>
sub group within the sport--------->eat up with vanity, sponging off
other peoples jumps....no character at all.
Perhaps talking with me will give you what you lack, and thats a whole
buncha stuff kid.
>
> >Kill file? Never owned one, I prefer to educate young twits not ignore
>
> AKA - your ego won't let you consider allowing the prospect of someone
> potentially writing something about you which you wouldn't be able to
> see.
>
>
> >Snipping? I prefer to think of it as editing long winded crybabies,
>
> Except you can't edit the record, can you?
Let the record stand I think it shows I own you kid
> > Pretty lame, dingleberry - why don't
> >> you just get it over with and say "plonk?" from this he
> >> derives a sense of power - "I riled someone."
>
> >Yes it appears to work
>
> If you believe reponse equates to being "riled"
>
> > > Snip away, dingleberry
> >> - someday you might get the lurking or killfiling down but for now, I
> >> know you got your hand full what with trying to understand how to
> >> operate google.
>
> >Operate google? Nope totally missed the Jin post, someone alerted me
> >via e-mail that you needed adult supervision <g>
>
> Wanna explain how, since you "totally missed the Jin post," you were
> able to reply to it via google, dingleberry? You blaming the canopy
> or the pilot?
>
Sure someone that likes to see you suffer or else was just bored
alerted me via e-mail that I had missed one of your pathetic
responses, have a nice day.....Other people seem to like to see you
squirm and yowl like a cat with its tail caught in a wringer
0~;->
sky...@pdq.net
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
Hiow's it go? Judge not lest ye be judged? Explain how you can
"judge" what you consider a "sub group" when you have no contact with
this "sub group," other than by contact with a person or persons
ostensibly of this "sub group" over the usenet. Explain how you can
judge an individual you have never even seen.
>--------->eat up with vanity, sponging off
>other peoples jumps....no character at all.
Nevermind that 1) "eat up with vanity" is purely a judgement you have
made based solely on the fact that an "individual," and other as you
say, "part(s) of a sub group" don't stroke your vanity on this
electronic newsgroup, 2) "sponging off other people's jumps," as you
say is provenly rhetorical bullshit in that this accusation you often
make has no amount whatsoever of empirical experience to back it up,
and 3) the "no character at all" goes back to you whining about not
getting your ego stroked. Tough shit, dingleberry - take it over to
the RV group - they might not notice what you don't say when you
gargle about your "national rw medal" over there.
>Perhaps talking with me will give you what you lack, and thats a whole
>buncha stuff kid.
Well, I'm certainly not lacking in the whole exercise of puncturing
your bloated ego department.
>>
>> >Kill file? Never owned one, I prefer to educate young twits not ignore
>> >their cries for leadership.
>>
>> AKA - your ego won't let you consider allowing the prospect of someone
>> potentially writing something about you which you wouldn't be able to
>> see.
>>
>The point is I don't care and you care to much
Ah, so the measure comes down to care now, does it? Why do you care
about that?
>>
>> >Snipping? I prefer to think of it as editing long winded crybabies,
>>
>> Except you can't edit the record, can you?
>
>Let the record stand I think it shows I own you kid
The record does stand - not that you could ever do anything about it,
dingleberry. As for owning - as ever - who calls who out? I can cite
examples, Jinnie - and they are numerous. And why do you care what
the record shows as to who might "own" who?
>
>> > Pretty lame, dingleberry - why don't
>> >> you just get it over with and say "plonk?" from this he
>> >> derives a sense of power - "I riled someone."
>>
>> >Yes it appears to work
>>
>> If you believe reponse equates to being "riled"
>>
>> > > Snip away, dingleberry
>> >> - someday you might get the lurking or killfiling down but for now, I
>> >> know you got your hand full what with trying to understand how to
>> >> operate google.
>>
>> >Operate google? Nope totally missed the Jin post, someone alerted me
>> >via e-mail that you needed adult supervision <g>
>>
>> Wanna explain how, since you "totally missed the Jin post," you were
>> able to reply to it via google, dingleberry? You blaming the canopy
>> or the pilot?
>>
>
>Sure someone that likes to see you suffer or else was just bored
>alerted me via e-mail that I had missed one of your pathetic
>responses,
So, you missed a response - you blaming the canopy or the pilot?
>have a nice day.....Other people seem to like to see you
>squirm and yowl like a cat with its tail caught in a wringer
The few that bother to read this crap probably get an amount of
bemusement in the spectacle sense of watching you crabwalk in and out
of your ongoing chicken dance. You sure have been quiet about that
48way you said you were on.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> > I have judged you not only as a individual but also as part of a
> >sub group within the sport
>
> Hiow's it go? Judge not lest ye be judged?
Aha right up my alley, as a philosopher I have studied many old
philosophy's.
Using mainstream voo doo as a defense now you little DZ sponge? Thats
going
to do you as much good as it does the young dumb ass's in the middle
east that think their going to Paradise for blowing themselves up.
Think of me as the devil if you will. Too late for you to call on any
God boy, I own you.
Explain how you can
> "judge" what you consider a "sub group" when you have no contact with
> this "sub group," other than by contact with a person or persons
> ostensibly of this "sub group" over the usenet.
I was trained to separate wheat from chaff, goats from sheep. You are
definitely a
scrubby little goat HAHAHAHAHAHA
Explain how you can
> judge an individual you have never even seen.
If words are thoughts and thoughts as sin full as actions as that
gospel you hide behind goes on to indicate, then you are guilty.
Besides I studied people by type while in the sport. No wiggle room
for you little buddy, you are to be cast in the fire with all the
other chaff. It is written. You an thank Philosophy class's and a long
past DOD training program for my ability to judge phonies & twerps.
0~;->
> >--------->eat up with vanity, sponging off
> >other peoples jumps....no character at all.
>
> Nevermind that 1) "eat up with vanity" is purely a judgement you have
> made based solely on the fact that an "individual," and other as you
> say, "part(s) of a sub group" don't stroke your vanity on this
> electronic newsgroup,
Oh but you do, its hard not to be vain around such a group with a IQ
of two.
You have plenty of the ignorance of youth but lack life experience, a
classical education and many other things such as service to others.
Not to mention you're a skitzo
2) "sponging off other people's jumps," as you
> say is provenly rhetorical bullshit in that this accusation you often
> make has no amount whatsoever of empirical experience to back it up,
> and
Pay full cost for your jumps then or don't log them.....ummmm lets see
that would give you about 80 jumps eh??
3) the "no character at all" goes back to you whining about not
> getting your ego stroked.
Nope, its the price of owning a goat.
>
> >> AKA - your ego won't let you consider allowing the prospect of someone
> >> potentially writing something about you which you wouldn't be able to
> >> see.
>
> >The point is I don't care and you care to much
>
> Ah, so the measure comes down to care now, does it? Why do you care
> about that?
>
Makes it easier to control goats, first you find out what the goat
values then you use it to herd them
>
>
> >> > Pretty lame, dingleberry - why don't
> >> >> you just get it over with and say "plonk?" from this he
> >> >> derives a sense of power - "I riled someone."
Plonk? Thats a tool of impatient geek types who not only can't speed
read but can't read well at all
> >> >Operate google? Nope totally missed the Jain post, someone alerted me
> >> >via e-mail that you needed adult supervision <g>
>
> >> Wanna explain how, since you "totally missed the Jain post," you were
> >> able to reply to it via google, dingleberry? You blaming the canopy
> >> or the pilot?
>
> >Sure someone that likes to see you suffer or else was just bored
> >alerted me via e-mail that I had missed one of your pathetic
> >responses,
>
>
> The few that bother to read this crap probably get an amount of
> bemusement in the spectacle sense of watching you crabwalk in and out
> of your ongoing chicken dance. You sure have been quiet about that
> 48way you said you were on.
I think who ever it is might just like to see me torture a DZ rat. I
get strange squeal-mails all the time, apparently yawl don't like each
other that much. One thing for sure
if they are wading through all of our shit slinging and trying to keep
score on last word their twisted individuals ;)P
>
sky...@pdq.net
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Mar 28, 5:04 pm, sky...@pdq.net wrote:
>> > I have judged you not only as a individual but also as part of a
>> >sub group within the sport
>>
>> Hiow's it go? Judge not lest ye be judged?
>
>Aha right up my alley, as a philosopher I have studied many old
>philosophy's.
And depending on the chosen rhetorical bullshit of the moment, you've
even adopted philosophies which are contradictory and at odds with
each other - sometimes even from one sentence to the next.
>Using mainstream voo doo as a defense now you little DZ sponge?
Not at all but then, who needs a "defense" when you are
demonstratively incapable of anything even remotely resembling an
offense.
>Thats
>going
>to do you as much good as it does the young dumb ass's in the middle
>east that think their going to Paradise for blowing themselves up.
But then, this isn't about some sort of seeking of some sort of
"Paradise" via action in the corporeal world but simply, returning
back to under your nose the brown, smelly crap which you would
describe as anything but.
>Think of me as the devil if you will.
No, because that would be selling the "devil" short. You're not the
"devil" - you're just a dingleberry and a troll with affirmation
issues gargling crap on the usenet - nothing more.
>Too late for you to call on any
>God boy, I own you.
And again, dingleberry - who calls on who when one has not heard from
the other over time?
>
>Explain how you can
>> "judge" what you consider a "sub group" when you have no contact with
>> this "sub group," other than by contact with a person or persons
>> ostensibly of this "sub group" over the usenet.
>
>I was trained to separate wheat from chaff, goats from sheep. You are
>definitely a
>scrubby little goat HAHAHAHAHAHA
So, you can "judge" because you were "trained." Still, this does
nothing at all the deny at all the realization that how you arrive at
your determinations are often flawed and ill-informed.
>
>
> Explain how you can
>> judge an individual you have never even seen.
>
>If words are thoughts and thoughts as sin full as actions as that
>gospel you hide behind goes on to indicate, then you are guilty.
So, words equate to thoughts and if the words you determine are "sin
full," then you see the thoughts as "sin full" and as you have
determined the words/thoughts as "sin full" you make the leap that
there must be "actions" which are also "sin full" - and anyone writing
words you have determined as "sin full," are therefore "guilty" of
"sin full actions." So, not stroking your ego is a sin, eh? Kinda
pretenstiouss, dingleberry - determining what is sin and what is not.
So, any recitation on reality, - especially if it disagrees with your
take, but even worse if it suggests lies or even hypocrisy on your
part is tantamount to heresy now? Whatcha gonna do about it
Dorquemada?
>Besides I studied people by type while in the sport.
Nevermind your earlier rhetorical bullshit garglings about judging
people as individuals.
>No wiggle room
>for you little buddy,
No need for any, dingleberry - the holes in your blather stretch
across timezones.
>you are to be cast in the fire with all the
>other chaff.
Yeah, so how's that going? You know, that wish with one hand and spit
in the other and see which one fills up first? I mean, Jinnie -
you've been so desperate as to predict for various people who have
outright nailed you in the past: dire medical issues and even
suicide. So now it's a prediction of some sort - either burning to
death or after death, eternal burning? That palm of yours been
getting kinda wrinkled of late?
>It is written.
Where is it "written," dingleberry?
>You an thank Philosophy class's and a long
>past DOD training program for my ability to judge phonies & twerps.
Which is very telling in the sense that when you do step into your
little "judging" pretense, this "ability" boils down to little more
than self-affirming disparagement - feeding your need for affirmation
- if you can denigrate then you can hold yourself in comparison and
not feel as bad about yourself. So, was it the "philosophy class" or
the "DOD training" which dropped the ball on something so integral for
assessment as self-reflection?
>> >--------->eat up with vanity, sponging off
>> >other peoples jumps....no character at all.
>>
>> Nevermind that 1) "eat up with vanity" is purely a judgement you have
>> made based solely on the fact that an "individual," and other as you
>> say, "part(s) of a sub group" don't stroke your vanity on this
>> electronic newsgroup,
>
>Oh but you do, its hard not to be vain around such a group with a IQ
>of two.
Don't see much of a group here, dingleberry and as for IQ and all of
that, there's only one person here who regularly steps in it, gets
caught in lies, mistakes, hypocrisies and, for that matter, has
demonstrated a significant inability to understand something so simple
as usenet pathways - nevermind just being able to read shit on google.
How much of an IQ was working there when you were bragging about that
48way you were "on," which you also said you had watched from the
ground?
>You have plenty of the ignorance of youth but lack life experience,
That is as may be, Jinnie but then you are certainly rife with the
ignorance of a closed mind, open only to affirmation or that which
makes you feel better about yourself - and even so ignorant as to lie
or just plain make something up - as if no one would ever notice - as
if there weren't anyone out there less ignorant than you?
>a
>classical education and many other things such as service to others.
Now you're just making guesses because you don't know. There are ways
to find out, certainly - Chuck proved that and has cornered you like
the fat, dumb rodent you often reveal your apspect to bef - but you
are just arriving at an answer based on what you want, not on what you
know.
>Not to mention you're a skitzo
Not anyone but you, dingleberry draping himself in pretenses and in
great variety. Not anyone but you gargling some stupid and then
contradicting yourself sooner or later down the line. Shit, you even
respond to your own posts, sometimes, dumbass. But then, I ain't so
"skitzo" as to pretend to be able to make a diagnosis based on what
some anonymous entity might write on the usenet - not to mention
trying to back it up with some sort of dubious mention of "training"
or "philosophy class," either.
>
>2) "sponging off other people's jumps," as you
>> say is provenly rhetorical bullshit in that this accusation you often
>> make has no amount whatsoever of empirical experience to back it up,
>> and
>
>Pay full cost for your jumps then or don't log them....
So, explain how where the lift-ticket comes from changes the reality
of a skydive being made, the fun, the experience gained, or even the
airtime accrued.
>.ummmm lets see
>that would give you about 80 jumps eh??
Ummmm - "let's see" what, dingleberry? You ever see my logbook? Do
you know if I even log? I know people with shitloads more jumps than
I ever made but even if I had only "80 jumps," dingleberry - who here
is still jumping and it didn't take me 80 to stand one up, either - it
was a 40th of that.
>
>3) the "no character at all" goes back to you whining about not
>> getting your ego stroked.
>
>Nope, its the price of owning a goat.
Sure, Jinnie - you wanna typify it that way since it makes you feel
better - it won't change anything, though - this "goat" will still be
working the fan and wafting your stink right back at you. You would
think a goat "owner" might be able to exercise a little bit better
control over his "property." What's your problem?
>> >> AKA - your ego won't let you consider allowing the prospect of someone
>> >> potentially writing something about you which you wouldn't be able to
>> >> see.
>>
>> >The point is I don't care and you care to much
>>
>> Ah, so the measure comes down to care now, does it? Why do you care
>> about that?
>>
>Makes it easier to control goats, first you find out what the goat
>values then you use it to herd them
Why do you care about that?
>>
>>
>> >> > Pretty lame, dingleberry - why don't
>> >> >> you just get it over with and say "plonk?" from this he
>> >> >> derives a sense of power - "I riled someone."
>
>Plonk? Thats a tool of impatient geek types who not only can't speed
>read but can't read well at all
As opposed to just writing "snip," while deonstrating an inability to
respond to points which illustrate how much a dingleberry you are?
>
>> >> >Operate google? Nope totally missed the Jain post, someone alerted me
>> >> >via e-mail that you needed adult supervision <g>
>>
>> >> Wanna explain how, since you "totally missed the Jain post," you were
>> >> able to reply to it via google, dingleberry? You blaming the canopy
>> >> or the pilot?
>>
>> >Sure someone that likes to see you suffer or else was just bored
>> >alerted me via e-mail that I had missed one of your pathetic
>> >responses,
>>
>>
>> The few that bother to read this crap probably get an amount of
>> bemusement in the spectacle sense of watching you crabwalk in and out
>> of your ongoing chicken dance. You sure have been quiet about that
>> 48way you said you were on.
>
>I think who ever it is might just like to see me torture a DZ rat.
Goat, dingleberry - goat - keep better track of your metaphorical
assignations if you're gonna make 'em. I think this "who ever it is"
is purely a construct - unless you'd like to post the pathways to this
supposed email - as if you had the IQ to figure out how to do it? You
know, maybe read some directions somewhere?
>I get strange squeal-mails all the time, apparently yawl don't like each
>other that much. One thing for sure
>if they are wading through all of our shit slinging and trying to keep
>score on last word their twisted individuals
Only a dingleberry like you would look at this crap and try to
determine some sort of "score." All about affirmation and trying to
maintain the pretense, no matter how overwhelmingly apparent the
reality is, that you are somehow "winning." Like I've said before,
jinnie - you wanna "win," feel free - special olympics medal for ya
and all of that - you're still a retard.
...bsrp
...jlk