Why AAD's are DANGEROUS!!
NippLBoy
Recently, a group of us planned to do a night big way to break off at 4000
feet just above the storm clouds. The dive went great, even the two way
my friend and I normally do with the remaining altitude. The two way was
planned to break high around 1000 feet to allow sufficient altitude to
build a two-stack in the adverse weather conditions. Because this was my
first jump with my new AAD I owed the drop zone a case of beer which my
friend and I drank the beer before the jump. Since I had a few in me, I
forgot about my newly installed Cypres. As I tracked away, I suddenly
found myselft under my reserve just as I went to throw out my pilot chute.
Luckily I managed to hold onto it and safely stowed it behind my
container. This further endangered me when I docked on my friend. The
flight characteristics of our canopies were very different. My reserve
about wrapped around his lines! I ended up spraining my ankle because my
reserve collapsed after brushing power lines my friend and I flew into due
to the fog.
If a worse incident would have occured, my AAD would have been totally
responsible. It was the thorough instruction of my jumpmasters on
tracking and reserve CRW that saved me from even worse injuries. The very
next day, I sold my AAD. I also started wearing a hook knife that my
friend or I could use in the event of a wrap.
I recommend that AAD's be made illegal as they may be responsible for more
incidents than saves.
Nipple Boy
A-19820
"Safety First! Fun Forever!"
bill...@gn2.getnet.com
<ignorant justification deleted>
you have got to be kidding me!
First you get boozed up to skydive and then blame an AAD for your own
mistakes.
AAD's have saved and will continue to save the lives of people like you
that do stupid things in the air.
Wake up and dry out!
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William Snyder
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>Subject: Re: Why AAD's are DANGEROUS!!
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>First, anyone who has been drinking should not be let anywhere near a rig
>or a plane.
>
>Second, with a 1000 foot break off, you should be happy you had an AAD to
>save you. It did exactly what it was supposed to do, you did not.
>
>Third, what were you thinking doing CReW under s reserve? If you
>wrapped, its bounce city!
>
>Please think about what you are doing before you put a rig on for your
>safety, for the safety of others and for the good of the sport.
>
>Blue skies and SAFE jumping,
>
>Dave Pinzino
>B-17655
Come on folks...lighten up...and recognize that no one, especially a skydiver,
is THAT stupid.
HE WAS KIDDING AROUND!!! sheesh!
--
Bill Snyder
wesn...@tx.ncsu.edu
North Carolina State University
Raleigh, NC
bill...@gn2.getnet.com
>
>Come on folks...lighten up...and recognize that no one, especially a
skydiver,
>is THAT stupid.
>
> HE WAS KIDDING AROUND!!! sheesh!
>--
>Bill Snyder
>wesn...@tx.ncsu.edu
>North Carolina State University
>Raleigh, NC
reserves...after a wrap!!!
People who have done drugs/alcohol then went to skydive..people had to
help them to the plane!!
it does happen...its not smart but it does happen!
DZvagaBON
Bonnie
Todd McGee
>Why AAD's ARE Dangerous!
>Recently, a group of us planned to do a night big way to break off at 4000
>feet just above the storm clouds. The dive went great, even the two way
>my friend and I normally do with the remaining altitude. The two way was
>planned to break high around 1000 feet to allow sufficient altitude to
>build a two-stack in the adverse weather conditions. Because this was my
>first jump with my new AAD I owed the drop zone a case of beer which my
>friend and I drank the beer before the jump.
snip, snip
>It was the thorough instruction of my jumpmasters on
>tracking and reserve CRW that saved me from even worse injuries.
Somebody tell me this is a joke. This has got to be a joke. God, I hope
this is a joke. On the slight chance that this person is serious...Does
anybody know who this guy is and who these jumpmasters are that are
instructing people on how to do CRW on your reserve? Seems like this is
the kind of thing that really ought to be discouraged. Naw, this has
GOT to be a joke.
At least I hope it's a joke.
Trust no one, spot and go floater - Todd A-17242
Skyfish1
The only thing that could have been funnier than this post, would be an
incident report that reads like this!
Realy If you're pulling our leg, this post is pretty funny & clever and
It'll be fun watching everybody flame ya.
This is probibly the case, after all, if you realy were THAT stupid, you'd
probibly be too dumb to get a job, or one that pays enough for to buy a
Cypress, let alone a computer to post this fish tale.
By the way, who was the DZ owner? maybe the guy that drank the other half
of the case of beer?
Either way I enjoyed the post, it made me laugh.
thanks
Brian
DZvagaBON
>you have got to be kidding me!
>First you get boozed up to skydive and then blame an AAD for your own
>mistakes.
>AAD's have saved and will continue to save the lives of people like you
>that do stupid things in the air.
>Wake up and dry out!
> billinaz@gn2
10 to 1 he is just kidding! He can't be serious!
Bonnie
Bill Von Novak
>Recently, a group of us planned to do a night big way to break off at 4000
>feet just above the storm clouds. The dive went great, even the two way
>my friend and I normally do with the remaining altitude. The two way was
>planned to break high around 1000 feet to allow sufficient altitude to
>build a two-stack in the adverse weather conditions. Because this was my
>first jump with my new AAD I owed the drop zone a case of beer which my
>friend and I drank the beer before the jump. Since I had a few in me, I
>forgot about my newly installed Cypres. As I tracked away, I suddenly
>found myselft under my reserve just as I went to throw out my pilot chute.
> Luckily I managed to hold onto it and safely stowed it behind my
>container. This further endangered me when I docked on my friend. The
>flight characteristics of our canopies were very different. My reserve
>about wrapped around his lines! I ended up spraining my ankle because my
>reserve collapsed after brushing power lines my friend and I flew into due
>to the fog.
excellent story! a few safety pointers, though -
1. you should really drink more before you jump. the more sober
you are, the more tense you are, and we all know how that can lead
to accidents.
2. the storm was obviously not strong enough if you didn't ascend after
opening. and if you're ascending you won't be running into power lines.
3. as you mentioned, you and your friend should have had hook knives.
that way you could have cut yourself free of your reserve. the main
might still work.
4. if you're going to dock on someone with your reserve, have them cut
away too! that way your canopies be more compatible, and the risk of a
wrap is reduced. (and no pesky pilot chutes to get in your way either.)
5. if you do hit power lines in the future, grab on. you can then
climb down them easily. just make sure you've got your feet on the one
below you before you let go of the higher one.
6. in fog, start a hard spiral in one direction or the other. that will
keep you from drifting too far from the spot, and will set you up for a
big fat hook once you see the ground.
-bill von novak D16479 AFF/SL JM95
who's selling his cypres just as soon as he can
vacc...@interlink.net
understand now why you want to remain anonymous. I wouldn't like to be
recognised as a jerk. Sorry... it sliped my tongue. Did I say jerk? I meant
an imbecile!!
First of all, I do you feel by being one in front of thousands of
people!? At least, I'm glad nothing serious happened to you. Even with my
anger towards you, I'm serious when I say I'm glad for you. That way, you'll
make your way up to be a professionnal imbecile!! But please, be one
elsewhere then on a DZ. You might be the cause of serious enjuries to others
who are sobers.
Did you know that beers are taken after the day. I hope I will NEVER jump
with you... What about publicity against drinking and driving? Has it ever
occure to you that it might also apply to us as well as many other activities
that need high reflexes and good judgement!
What about your friend... did he know you had too many? I hope not. In the
contrary, he would be classified in the same category as you are.
It's not AAD's that should be illegal, but you my friend...!
If I ever know I jumped with a drunk skydiver, I WILL KICK HIS ASS !!!
If you don't want to stop drinking (because I'm sure it's not the first time
you do) while skydiving for yourself, please... do it for the rest of us who
want to skydive safe!
Yuri Kuznetsow
><ignorant justification deleted>
>First you get boozed up to skydive and then blame an AAD for your own
>mistakes.
A hard helmet helps to preserve a sense of humor in case of an accident.
I bet you've jumped without it at least once ;-)
Yuri.
JSprad1
beer cans in the right recycling bins?
Valerie L. Gurka
>Why AAD's ARE Dangerous!
> The two way was
>planned to break high around 1000 feet to allow sufficient altitude to
>build a two-stack in the adverse weather conditions.
This is crazy! I can't believe you think that 1000 feet is breaking high.
Also, why in the world would you form a 2-stack this low? Plus, if the weather
was adverse, why would you even do CRW, that's looking for an accident.
> Because this was my
>first jump with my new AAD I owed the drop zone a case of beer which my
>friend and I drank the beer before the jump.
If you had 1/2 case of beer before you jumped, then you shouldn't have been
jumping at all.
> Since I had a few in me, I
>forgot about my newly installed Cypres.
practically an accident waiting to happen.
> As I tracked away, I suddenly
>found myselft under my reserve just as I went to throw out my pilot chute.
> Luckily I managed to hold onto it and safely stowed it behind my
>container.
At what altitude did your reserve open up? Why did your AAD fire? I think
there is something that you are not telling us here.
> This further endangered me when I docked on my friend. The
>flight characteristics of our canopies were very different.
Why would you do CRW under a reserve? I can't believe that you would do this,
if you were to have a wrap you would be in serious trouble. I've never done
CRW but if I ever did I would not continue to do it if I suddenly found myself
under a reserve.
> My reserve
>about wrapped around his lines!
Check it out! I am certainly not suprised, the way this jump is going.
>I ended up spraining my ankle because my
>reserve collapsed after brushing power lines my friend and I flew into due
>to the fog.
>
You must have not been looking where you were going, power lines are very
dangerous, and you should stay away from them! Not only did you put yourself
in danger with this incident, but your friend to. Plus, why on earth would you
jump in any weather where it was too foggy that you couldn't see where you were
going?
>If a worse incident would have occured, my AAD would have been totally
>responsible.
Sorry guy, but your AAD would not be responsible for this, YOU are responsible
for the many bad judgements that you made on this jump. People get pissed
at somebody else when they know they did something stupid. Everyone just wants
to blame somebody else.
> The very
>next day, I sold my AAD.
>
>I recommend that AAD's be made illegal as they may be responsible for more
>incidents than saves.
Excuse me if you think that I am being rude, but your recommendation is totally
rediculous! You seem to be focusing too much on yourself and trying to blame
somebody else that you don't have any facts or statistics of how many saves
that AADs have made. Check your facts, kid.
I have been very direct here, you may call me rude, but It angers me when I see
skydivers doing stupid unsafe things and don't even take responsibility for the
consequences.
Valerie Gurka
A-15322
I may not be all that experienced, Mr. Nipple Boy, but at least I have common
sense.
>
>Nipple Boy
>A-19820
>
>"Safety First! Fun Forever!"
If you are going to say "Safety first" you should mean it!
Tom Cahill
a waste. Plan your breakoff at 2000ft so you can plan CReW with your
Mains....Wrap....both cutaway....do another 2-way....and then Reserve
CReW. Airtime is precious.......get all you can out of every jump!
..Also, be sure both your reserves have very high wing loading....for
that turbulent, story air.....and that cool small rig!
TC.
Tom Cahill
TC.
Philip Yzarn de Louraille
This thread is being taken more seriously than Greg Gasson's April First
joke!
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Bryan Burchfield
Man, I never laughed so hard at a message before....
..until I started reading some of the replies. Truely classic.
Jeeze people, get a sense of humor - or if you can't then buy one.
-bpb
Matthew Swinden
>>Recently, a group of us planned to do a night big way to break off at
4000
>>feet just above the storm clouds. The dive went great, even the two
way
>>planned to break high around 1000 feet to allow sufficient altitude to
>>first jump with my new AAD I owed the drop zone a case of beer which
my
>>friend and I drank the beer before the jump.
>
>
>>It was the thorough instruction of my jumpmasters on
>>tracking and reserve CRW that saved me from even worse injuries.
>
>Somebody tell me this is a joke. This has got to be a joke. God, I hope
>this is a joke. On the slight chance that this person is serious...Does
>anybody know who this guy is and who these jumpmasters are that are
>instructing people on how to do CRW on your reserve? Seems like this is
>the kind of thing that really ought to be discouraged. Naw, this has
>GOT to be a joke.
>
>At least I hope it's a joke.
>
>Trust no one, spot and go floater - Todd A-17242
Ummm Todd...
No joke....
And since you're here...would you be interested in buying my Self Paking
Nova with a little less than 3,000 jumps on it...the lines have been
relined only twice for a cool $1567.65!!??
Also... you might be interested in knowing that there is an article in
April's PARACHUTIST about how to successfully do CRW on reserve canopies
of dissimular sizes.
Blue Skies...
Matt
Chris Jenkins
post: Why AAD's ARE Dangerous!
>>
>>> The two way was planned to break high around 1000 feet to allow
>>> sufficient altitude to build a two-stack in the adverse weather
>>> conditions.
{Lots of other crazy stuff!!}
>>This is crazy! I can't believe you think that 1000 feet is breaking
>>high. Also, why in the world would you form a 2-stack this low? Plus, if
>>the weather was adverse, why would you even do CRW, that's looking for an
>>accident.
>>If you had 1/2 case of beer before you jumped, then you shouldn't have
>>been jumping at all.
>>
>>Why would you do CRW under a reserve? I can't believe that you would do
>>this, if you were to have a wrap you would be in serious trouble.
>>
>>Check it out! I am certainly not suprised, the way this jump is going.
>>
>>You must have not been looking where you were going, power lines are very
>>dangerous, and you should stay away from them! Not only did you put
>>yourself in danger with.......
I have a VERY good deal on Florida swamp land that I think you would be
interested in!!
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with your eyes turned skywards, for there you
have been and there you long to return"
B 10511
Keep smiling
:-)
Philip Yzarn de Louraille
It is not as much a sense of humor as "common sense"!
It is hard for me to understand that skydivers (even green ones) have
bitten. Unless, of course, they have watched Drop Zone or similar movies
and believe that you can freefall for a minute from 4000'...
Scuba Lee
and jump, allege to reatin a backdeployed reserve, and then try to do
canopy RZ. If true, i understand the high number of fatalities occurring
today.
And people think I am unsafe because I use a Chest Mount reserve.
Ron Lee
D-5965
Randy Riecks
JRollaBONE
>First, anyone who has been drinking should not be let anywhere near a rig
>or a plane.
Everyone quit bad-mouthing partying and jumping, some of us like to have a
cold beer and a quick puff in the van before we skydive!
Wendy Faulkner
Tom Cahill <SFP...@prodigy.com> wrote:
>I can agree with most of this, except breaking of the 2-way at 1000ft is
>a waste. Plan your breakoff at 2000ft so you can plan CReW with your
>Mains....Wrap....both cutaway....do another 2-way....and then Reserve
>CReW. Airtime is precious.......get all you can out of every jump!
chop em, get your reserves out, and do another stack just in time to
land. That's what real skydivers do...
>..Also, be sure both your reserves have very high wing loading....for
>that turbulent, story air.....and that cool small rig!
>
W
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Michael Masterov
>
>It is not as much a sense of humor as "common sense"!
>
>It is hard for me to understand that skydivers (even green ones) have
>bitten. Unless, of course, they have watched Drop Zone or similar movies
>and believe that you can freefall for a minute from 4000'...
Nah, 25 seconds is about max if you want to deploy and land safely. Gives
you plenty of time to freefly an exit and turn 6 pts. I'm kidding, right?
I was real quick to laugh when I saw the original post; he just had to be
kidding but it was just close enough to home to be hilarious. Then I was
cracking up as prople posted followups. I even emailed a couple, trying
to explain that the guy just HAD to be kidding.
Yesterday I was packing after a miserable attempt at chute assis, and saw
a couple of guys dirtdiving a 6-pt 2-way. Each has hundreds of jumps, I
ratings, etc. Cool. Then I find out it's to be from 4000. Not so cool.
Should break at 3500; OK, on a 2-way with experienced people you can
get away with 3000 - 6 sec to turn, track, dump. That gives you maybe
10 sec of subterminal air to turn 6 pts. Yeah, that can be done. Pushing
it, but not outrageously.
Saw them exit. Flying a bit sloppy, but far better than I ever have. Some
fumbling on the 2nd pt. Third is smooth, but they should be breaking off.
Nope, going for the 4th. They must be going through 2 now. 5th and 6th
are pretty quick. Hover for a sec - turn, 1 sec track (maybe), dump. Did
I mention one of these guys flies a postage stamp?
I timed him from dump to touchdown. I figure it was a 25 sec canopy ride.
The DZO doesn't agree; he says 22. Can't swear to it, since this is second
hand, but supposedly there was a remark thrown around. "It's no problem
for me to hum it; I don't have a Cypres."
Guys, the original post was a joke. Obviously. For those of you taken in -
shit happens. For the rest - cut them some slack. It's closer to home than
we like to admit.
Did I mention that the guy with the 25 sec canopy ride thinks I'm nuts
because I jumped The Bridge?
Michael Masterov C-24473
Scuba Lee
proof that people are doing the sort of things that show up in fatality
reports. One might say that it is nature's way of getting rid of poor
genetics. It all seems so senseless when they could have gone to 7500'
and had a normal dive with plenty of room (altitude) to handle problems.
Steve Coleman
>you are, the more tense you are, and we all know how that can lead
>to accidents.
Bill,
Thanks for the tip! After 21 skydives I still potato chip once in a while.
Next weekend, I'll try a couple shots of Jose before going out and see if
that helps at all!
If I had known this sooner, I probably could have saved $125 dollors *not*
repeating AFF level 6.
Steve
Janno_Schouwenburg
>bitten. Unless, of course, they have watched Drop Zone or similar movies
>and believe that you can freefall for a minute from 4000'...
I know it's true cause i have seen it on tv. Point break: fall for 5 minutes.
Could be 20.000 feet (5 x 4000). No oxigen needed, opening 30 seconds after
1000 feet. Really i have seen it on tv so it's true. Please, don't believe the
hype guys. I wish i wrote the 'why aad's are dangerous!!' story. Fun for weeks
at least. I think it was a cloudy weak when the anon bored skydiver wrote the
message.
Janno
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(not me) hook line and sinker.....LOL
Larry Noggle A
-19851 In article <3mjkvn$6...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,
NippLBoy (nipp...@aol.com) writes:
>Why AAD's ARE Dangerous!
>
>Recently, a group of us planned to do a night big way to break off at 4000
>feet just above the storm clouds. The dive went great, even the two way
>my friend and I normally do with the remaining altitude. The two way was
>planned to break high around 1000 feet to allow sufficient altitude to
>build a two-stack in the adverse weather conditions. Because this was my
>first jump with my new AAD I owed the drop zone a case of beer which my
>friend and I drank the beer before the jump. Since I had a few in me, I
>forgot about my newly installed Cypres. As I tracked away, I suddenly
>found myselft under my reserve just as I went to throw out my pilot chute.
> Luckily I managed to hold onto it and safely stowed it behind my
>container. This further endangered me when I docked on my friend. The
>flight characteristics of our canopies were very different. My reserve
>about wrapped around his lines! I ended up spraining my ankle because my
>reserve collapsed after brushing power lines my friend and I flew into due
>to the fog.
>
>If a worse incident would have occured, my AAD would have been totally
>responsible. It was the thorough instruction of my jumpmasters on
>tracking and reserve CRW that saved me from even worse injuries. The very
>next day, I sold my AAD. I also started wearing a hook knife that my
>friend or I could use in the event of a wrap.
>
>I recommend that AAD's be made illegal as they may be responsible for more
>incidents than saves.
>
BRYAN FERRAEZ
CYPRESS OR IS IT DANGEROUS TO FREEFALL TO SUCH A LOW ALTITUDE? IVE ONLY
BEEN SKYDIVING FOR A FEW MONTHS AND WAS TRYING TO DECIDE ON INVESTING IN
A CYPRESS OR NOT. IVE GOT 30 JUMPS AND HAVE READ ARTICLES ON HOW MANY LIVES
HAVE BEEN SAVED DUE TO THEM AND IT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD INVESTMENT.
DOESNT IT?
qx0...@inet.d48.lilly.com
> In article <3mjkvn$6...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, nipp...@aol.com (NippLBoy) writes...
>
> A-15322
>
> I may not be all that experienced, Mr. Nipple Boy, but at least I have common
> sense.
Experience is obviously relative.
Please check your awareness re. reality.
SHEEEEEEEEESH
Please consider contacting Barry ( the FAQ one ) and volunteer your time in his
ongoing effort to test the 02 / skin absorption theory :) .
kleggo
MIKE MEYER
NY>incidents than saves.
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1) Buy the cypress.
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Darin L. Ninness
In a previous article, qx0...@inet.d48.lilly.com () says:
>
>Please consider contacting Barry ( the FAQ one ) and volunteer your time in his
>ongoing effort to test the 02 / skin absorption theory :) .
>
>kleggo
>
You know, I never gave that much thought, but when I read it, I believed it
(stupid f&*^%$# whuffo, right?)! I guessed (rightly so) that since I was
only doing static line jumps at the time that the sub-terminal air must allow
normal breathing! Afterall, you're out and open in just a few short seconds,
so you could even hold your breath (but then again, the prop wash was in-
creasing the o2 absorption...).
It wasn't until my first AFF dive that I (finally!) realized how true <g>
that concept is......
<rotfl,lol!>
Darin
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Jumpman10
>Yesterday I was packing after a miserable attempt at chute assis, and saw
>a couple of guys dirtdiving a 6-pt 2-way. Each has hundreds of jumps, I
>ratings, etc. Cool. Then I find out it's to be from 4000. Not so cool.
>Should break at 3500; OK, on a 2-way with experienced people you can
>get away with 3000 - 6 sec to turn, track, dump. That gives you maybe
>10 sec of subterminal air to turn 6 pts. Yeah, that can be done.
Pushing
>it, but not outrageously.
No shit, I was just pulling up in my car and saw the dive too...didn't
time the canopy rides-didn't have to use a watch, it was pretty obvious.
What some people will do for thrills. But hey, they got their 6 points in
though. I just wonder why they didnt try any CRW after opening thoiugh.
BLUE SKIES!
Bryan
Mike Carmichael
bi> who's selling his cypres just as soon as he can
How much do you want for you cypres
Mike ;-)
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Mike Carmichael
I think that YOU should be made illegal because you had been drinking
before a skydive. Your stupidity defies belief. CRW on a reserve? Fog
on the DZ during a night dive? When you go in I will breath a sigh of
relief that I will never meet you on a dive you stupid fucker.
Mike
... Don't play chicken with the ground. The ground doesn't flinch.
Matthew Swinden
>
> >I recommend that AAD's be made illegal as they may be responsible for
more
> >incidents than saves.
>
>I think that YOU should be made illegal because you had been drinking
>before a skydive. Your stupidity defies belief. CRW on a reserve? Fog
>on the DZ during a night dive? When you go in I will breath a sigh of
>relief that I will never meet you on a dive you stupid fucker.
>
>Mike
>
>
>
Mike....
I think you slightly missed th boat on this one...
The post was a humorous one...humor...laughing...making light of a
situation THAT NEVER HAPPENED!!
But since you thought the story was true...would be interested in buying
my Self Packing Nova for only $1453.56 A good streal.
Matt Swinden
D-15666
I'm often asked why I jump...I tell 'em because the DOOR IS OPEN, THE
VIEW IS AWSOME, and I CAN!
Bob Church
KTD...@prodigy.com (Matthew Swinden) writes:
>
> But since you thought the story was true...would be interested in buying
> my Self Packing Nova for only $1453.56 A good streal.
>
> Matt Swinden
> D-15666
>
Just my luck!!!!! Someone finally invents one of my greatest desires, a
self packing parachute. But it's a Nova!
Bob Church (ducking the rocks from the nova lovers)
Matthew Swinden
>self packing parachute. But it's a Nova!
>
>Bob Church (ducking the rocks from the nova lovers)
Bob...
The new Self Packing Chute has been in the development stage for three
years... but we ran into a problem during the BETA test phase. The New
Self Packing Nova would have a tendency to go into "self pack mode"
during flight especially close to the ground thus causing a slight
problem to the jumper who was still in the "flying mode" of the jump.
Matt Swinden
D-15666 I'm often asked why I jump out of planes.
I tell 'em because the VIEW IS AWSOME, the DOOR IS OPEN, and I CAN.
Oh yeah...the beer is COLD.