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SkyBum

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Sep 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/10/98
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My Favorite is Skydiving over a beach.... Too Cool

Paul Bordelon wrote:

> I was just curious what DZ's people on this newsgroup have found or find to
> be the most scenic from the air. Maybe you can list your top three
> favorites and tell us why they are your favorites. Im NOT asking about DZ
> service, people, safety, or convience...just the actual scenery while in
> free-fall or under canopy. Especially here in the United States...but Im
> curious about other countries as well. Thanks for you expert opinion!
>
> Clear Skys,
> Paul Bordelon


Gerhard

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Sep 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/10/98
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My all time favorite is Skydive Elsinore. Great view of Lake Elsinore
and
Santa Ana Mountains.

Gerhard

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SkyDolphin

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Sep 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/10/98
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The views of Mt. Rainier and Mt. St. Helens are pretty awesome at Kapowsin
AirSports. Check out the photo on their website and you'll see what I mean.

http://www.eskimo.com/~cplasch/skydive/kapsched.html


USPA Skydiver

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Sep 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/10/98
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1. Skydive Hawaii, Hawaii
2. Skydive Monterey, CA
3. Balloon Jumping - Napa Valley, CA

Paul Bordelon wrote in message <01bddd29$cdace660$6c4841ce@default>...

Paul Bordelon

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BMurrish

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I am in the Air Force and recently moved from Hawaii to Colorado and
vacationed in between. Here is my picks!!!
#1 Skydive Hawaii,Dillingham AF, HI( Hawaii, need I say more?)
#2 Blue Sky Adventure, Lompoc, CA( awesome Central Coastline scenery,plus view
of launch sites over Vandeberg AFB)
#3 Skydive Sebastian,FL( Another awesome view of coastline)
Damn, guess I am a little bit spoiled on the ocean scenery. It is going to be
hard trying to get use to Pike's Peak in CO.
Peace,
Bill


JUMPTANDEM

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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I might be a little biased but Skydive The Rockies at Freemont County Airport,
Canon City Colorado is one of the most scenic DZs in the USA. We advertise
that not only do you get a skydive but you also get an aerial view of the Royal
Gorge (and the Bridge!). You can see the continental divide from altitude.
Also because we are in a valley the weather seems to avoid us. There are some
pictures on the web site.

http://members.aol.com/bpierotti/index.html

RDSKYDIVE

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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Skydive the Rockies! in Canyon City, CO, home of the Royal Gorge Bridge. That
is a nice view from the air. Pikes Peak(the Rocky Mts) on one side and below
is the Royal Gorge Bridge.
There is a link to it on my page.

http://members.aol.com/RDSKYDIVE/Randall.html

SkyDveGO

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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I willsecond the vite for Elsinore. The view of the Santa Ana's is especially
nice at sunset. A favorite relaxing jump of my (on the rare occasions I get
out there from the midwest!) is a sunset solo...just exit last ans lay there
ans soak in the sun as it sets behind the mountains and the reflection coming
off the lake!

Randy Connell
D19133

Ted Bice

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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1. Skydive Lost Prairie- located in a secluded mountain
valley that is simply beautiful.
2. Kapowsin Air Sports- get in an Otter, climb to 12,000 feet,
look out the window, and Mt. Rainier still towers 2,000 feet
above you.

Don Bice
D-17914

Jeremy Joubert

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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We've got a pretty scenic DZ here in Cape Town as well. Table Mountain
and Robben Island visible. Have a look at
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/9549/cpc.html

Blue skies.

Jeremy

David Tolan

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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International Indonesian Skydiving (ph 021-5482430)

Theres a 4000' mountain off to one side and a 5000 Volcano off to the other.

Fabulous place - great people - Just don't land in the

Razor Grass
Long Grass (Cobras)
Tropical Rain Forest
or Lake (Leeches)

Blues,
Lucky Dave
IPC C364

Cathy

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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Paul,
Come visit us here at Pacific International Skydiving Center (PISC) dba Sky Med.
(808) 637-7472
The DZ is located at Dillingham Airfield on the North Shore of Oahu.
Absolutely beautiful!!!
The coastline is to the North of the DZ (across the street).
There are mountains to the South of the DZ. There's also a polo field, banana fields, a beach park,
and a flower nursery that serve as "interesting" off DZ landing areas.
You can see Molokai and Haleakala (on Maui) on clear days at altitude and dolphins and whales
during certain times of the year.
We jump all year round too!
Also, if you're ever at the North Shore at night, the sky is absolutely beautiful.
PISC doesn't have a website with photos available, but you can check out Skydive Hawaii's website
for some really cool aerial shots.
I'll have to look up the addy for you.
Aloha and Blue Skies...


"Paul Bordelon" <pb...@cajun.net> wrote in <01bddd29$cdace660$6c4841ce@default>:

Cathy

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Here's the addy to Skydive Hawaii's photo gallery:
http://advertiz.com/skydive/htm/gallery.htm

Ben

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I did my first Tandem at Sky Dive Key West (which is actually on
SugarLoaf Key in Florida). In freefall we could see several of the
Keys, and under canopy it was even more beautiful. Of course, a lot
of water to deal with if you get a bad spot...

Ben

MOM1398

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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> the most scenic from the air

The best kept secret for scenery in the whole U.S. is a little out of the way,
Cessna D.Z., in N.Y.
Skydive Long Island
East Moriches, N.Y.
516-878-5867

It's in the Hamptons out on the East end of Long Island. Very, Very close to
the Ocean, with the Long Island Sound on the North Shore. More Water and Beach
to the East, and on a crystal clear day, you can see the skyline of Manhattan
(N.Y.C.)70 miles away. Hawaii is the only place that beats it for Ocean
scenery. Sebastian can't hold a candle to the place. Oh, and the night life is
indescribable in the summer months. God, this is making me homesick thinking
about it!
Blue SkyZ,
D.J.Mike

Dan Rossi

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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On 11 Sep 1998, MOM1398 wrote:

> > the most scenic from the air
>
> The best kept secret for scenery in the whole U.S. is a little out of the way,
> Cessna D.Z., in N.Y.
> Skydive Long Island
> East Moriches, N.Y.

I always wanted to jump there. I grew up not to far from there and knew
of the place, but I only had a couple of SL jumps back then and heard that
the landing area was pretty tight as well.

Yeah, it kind of makes me home sick too. I haven't benn back to the
island for something like six years now.

Flare when you hear the crickets.


Dan

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FREFALLGUY

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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I like the scenery at Perris Valley Skydiving - Home of Passion 8. ;-)

Blue Skies,

Marc

bil...@qualcomm.com

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.980911...@smithfield.transarc.com>,

> On 11 Sep 1998, MOM1398 wrote:
>
> > > the most scenic from the air
> >
> > The best kept secret for scenery in the whole U.S. is a little out of the
way,
> > Cessna D.Z., in N.Y.
> > Skydive Long Island
> > East Moriches, N.Y.

true, it is a beautiful DZ, but SLI is a student operation only. long
island skydivers is the experienced jumper operation on the airport. they
operate intermittently, when their plane works.

in any case, as scenic as east moriches is, it really can't compare to
lost prairie, montana.

-bill von

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Rita

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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Paul Bordelon wrote:
>
> I was just curious what DZ's people on this newsgroup have found or find to
> be the most scenic from the air. Maybe you can list your top three
> favorites and tell us why they are your favorites. Im NOT asking about DZ
> service, people, safety, or convience...just the actual scenery while in
> free-fall or under canopy. Especially here in the United States...but Im
> curious about other countries as well. Thanks for you expert opinion!

LOL ... when I'm under canopy and can clearly see the pea gravel pit, I think
that's the most scenic view imagineable! :)

Blue ones!

--rita

Cris G

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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>I like the scenery at Perris Valley Skydiving - Home of Passion 8. ;-)
>
>Blue Skies,
>
>Marc
>

Marc , you only like them because you having matching rigs :)

Blue (and purple and pink) skies.

David

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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>Paul Bordelon wrote:
>>
>> I was just curious what DZ's people on this newsgroup have found or find to
>> be the most scenic from the air. Maybe you can list your top three
>> favorites and tell us why they are your favorites. Im NOT asking about DZ
>> service, people, safety, or convience...just the actual scenery while in
>> free-fall or under canopy. Especially here in the United States...but Im
>> curious about other countries as well. Thanks for you expert opinion!

I think the most beautiful scenery I've ever seen while skydiving was
when I was filming some CRW a few years ago. There were clouds all
over the place, but with plenty of holes to go through. The bases of
the clouds were down to as low as 5000' and with tops around our
opening altitude of about 10,000'. The CRW jumpers I was filming were
only doing a two-stack and were able to easily choose where they were
going since they didn't have to accommodate others. They found one
really nice cloud that had a sloping effect at just the right angle to
allow us to fly right next to and/or above it for thousands of feet.
It was hard to keep the camera on them while looking off to the side
and below, but just the feeling of proximity to those big beautiful
billowing clouds was enough.

Oh, the DZ was in Cushing Ok. Not much to look at there but the new
prison right on the edge of the airport.

David

Chris Demarest

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I concur, Lost Prairie is awesome!

--
Chris Demarest - USPA B-21172

"Life is full of chances...take 'em or forever wonder..."

jum...@kcnet.com

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In article <01bddd29$cdace660$6c4841ce@default>,

"Paul Bordelon" <pb...@cajun.net> wrote:
> I was just curious what DZ's people on this newsgroup have found or find to
> be the most scenic from the air. Maybe you can list your top three
> favorites and tell us why they are your favorites. Im NOT asking about DZ
> service, people, safety, or convience...just the actual scenery while in
> free-fall or under canopy. Especially here in the United States...but Im
> curious about other countries as well. Thanks for you expert opinion!
>
> Clear Skys,
> Paul Bordelon
>

Paul,

Skydive Lost Prairie's scenery was the most beautiful that I have ever seen.
Mountains, lakes, the prairie. Too cool.

Blue skies,
Shelly Beer
D-21063

MEBJR

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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> in any case, as scenic as east moriches is, it really can't compare to
>lost prairie, montana.
>
>-bill von
>
>

No Bill, Lost Prairie ranks second in my book. The Lang Brewery 5 miles away
takes #1. :)

Nice Jumpin with you in Montana..Tell Amy hi.
Oh Yeah, thanks again for letting us borrow the rope for the raft jump.

See you suddenly:

Mike Burrill
Beagle Boogie Boys
D-14684 S@TA NW26

rick nelson

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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David wrote:
>
> Oh, the DZ was in Cushing Ok. Not much to look at there but the new
> prison right on the edge of the airport.
>
> David

Oh great, when I jumped there '78-'81 all you had to worry about was
the tank farm, the police gun range and cows. Now they add razor wire
and felons to the mix. Well, there were felons coming out of the plane
then too.
rick

Flyincamra

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Sep 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/12/98
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I got to do a few skydives on Maui over the Hana airport.....it was incredibly
beautiful. The outs however consisted of rough oceans, lava cliffs and
impenitrable jumgles.....glad I didn't land out........

Jan Davis

pe...@jumper.net

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Sep 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/12/98
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In article <01bddd29$cdace660$6c4841ce@default>,
"Paul Bordelon" <pb...@cajun.net> wrote:
> I was just curious what DZ's people on this newsgroup have found or find to
> be the most scenic from the air. Maybe you can list your top three
> favorites and tell us why they are your favorites.

Skydive Monterey Bay. The name says it all.

Pitt Meadows, BC, Canada. Mountains, Pacific Ocean (OK, Strait of Juan de
Fuca), Vancouver Island, Fraser River, Mount Baker (volcano)

I liked the sunsets at Eloy.

BSBS (Blue Skies Be Safe)
;P eter

Dan Rossi

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Sep 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/12/98
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Yeah, I know, I'm the last guy you'd expect to have something to
say on this topic. But in the spirit of all the story telling
that's been going on around here, I thought I would share some
thoughts with the group.

It was a number of years ago, back when I was living in Ohio and
doing a lot of jumping at Cleveland Sport. It was late October and
the season was winding down. I sniveled onto the last load of the
day just to grab some air. I was only going up to 6.5 and was
wearing just my sweatshirt and jeans. It was cool but not very
cold yet. That certain temperature where you know winter is on
it's way but you've still got some time before the first snows
cover the run-way..

I can't say I remember anything about the plane ride or the free
fall itself, probably just another 20 seconds of style series or
something like that. The canopy ride was uneventful and would not
have stuck in my mind except for one thing.

I was just drifting around enjoying the cool air. I could even
smell the leaves on the ground. I remember thinking that was
pretty neat and decided to slow down the canopy and hang in the
quiet air for a while. I sunk into deep breaks and just let the
canopy hang above a stall. It was so quiet and the air was just so
crisp and smelled so wonderful, it was a very peaceful moment.

Suddenly, my radio crackled to life. Now the guy who usually talks
me down is not known for his "mildness". He is usually harassing
me, telling me he's going to have me try to do a hook-turn landing,
just generally joking around and so on. Well anyway, on this
particular talk-down he was apparently in a thoughtful mood. In a
much softer and mellower tone than his usual bark I heard him
saying:

"Hey Dan. The sun is just about going down. It will probably be
down by the time you get on the ground. If you could look off to
the west you'd see it setting. It looks real nice. And the moon
is just rising in the East. You can see it very clearly. And
below you all the leaves have turned color and are all these great
shades of red and yellow and gold. It's really beautiful."

It was perfect timing. Hanging under that canopy in the cool air,
smelling the leaves, picturing the scenery. It was really
beautiful. I could see it in my mind as clear as day. The way the
sun looks when it's setting. It looks like the edge of the world
is on fire. All those shades of red and yellow shifting and
sliding down the sky. The big mottled grey face of the moon slowly
creeping up to replace the sun. And those leaves. The image of
those leaves was very powerful. I'd seen them before. I'd seen
them from above just like I was seeing them now.

You see, I haven't been blind all my life. It was back in the late
fall of 1974, I was seven years old at the time. The time was
drawing near for me to go into the hospital to have my second eye
removed. My family was trying to expose me to many visual stimuli
so that I might remember them in the future. Trips to Manhattan,
out to the ends of Long Island, relatives, all that stuff. Well,
one of the last things we did was for me and my dad to go for a
plane ride. I believe it was a 172 but don't remember
specifically. We flew around the island a bit and even got
permission to fly over Manhattan. I saw the twin towers, the
Empire State building, the statue of Liberty, and the hospital
where I'd be going. But when we flew over Long Island on the way
back home I remember looking down and seeing carpets of red and
gold leaves. Some of them in the trees and many on the ground. It
was a beautiful sight. One that has stuck with me all these years.
And when my radio-man mentioned it, that vivid flash of color came
into my head again. I'd seen this before and it was just as
beautiful as it had been long ago.

So, for all of you jumpers living in areas that get to experience
the magic of the changing of the leaves don't forget to stop and
look around when that time comes. It can truly be an inspiring
view.

Blue skies and colored leaves.

Rita

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Dan Rossi wrote:

> So, for all of you jumpers living in areas that get to experience
> the magic of the changing of the leaves don't forget to stop and
> look around when that time comes. It can truly be an inspiring
> view.

Danny, thank you so much for reminding us of those blessings we so often take
for granted. God bless you.

Blue ones!

--rita

rick nelson

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Sep 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/12/98
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Dan Rossi wrote:
>
> Yeah, I know, I'm the last guy you'd expect to have something to
> say on this topic. But in the spirit of all the story telling
> that's been going on around here, I thought I would share some
> thoughts with the group.
>
(snip)

And share them you did Dan, thanks. My wife, through her wet eyes, says
thank you too.

rick

ocon...@slr.orl.lmco.com

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Sep 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/14/98
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In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.980912...@smithfield.transarc.com>,

Dan Rossi <dro...@transarc.com> wrote:
> Yeah, I know, I'm the last guy you'd expect to have something to
> say on this topic.

I do wonder what skydiving is for you. Maybe you could work
up a post on this sometime.

[snip]


> It was back in the late
> fall of 1974, I was seven years old at the time. The time was
> drawing near for me to go into the hospital to have my second eye
> removed. My family was trying to expose me to many visual stimuli
> so that I might remember them in the future.

[snip]

Did it work? Do you remember most of that stuff?


Kevin O'Connell

RHallifax

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Sep 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/14/98
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I've seen Niagara Falls from free fall and under canopy. But my favorite still
is the crimson sunsets bouncing off Lake Ontario on a day where the air is
crisp and there are a few clouds for contrast.

blue Skies,

Bob

Univ Skydiving

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Sep 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/14/98
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Check out the new Skydive Daytona Beach!!
When it opens soon.
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<199809142040...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...

Bruce Boening

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Sep 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/15/98
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I get a tear in my eye when looking down on Texas A&M. Beauty is in the
eye of the beholder.
http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~skydive/
-Bruce :-)
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> I was just curious what DZ's people on this newsgroup have found or find
to
> be the most scenic from the air. Maybe you can list your top three

Dan Rossi

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On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 ocon...@slr.orl.lmco.com wrote:
> In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.980912...@smithfield.transarc.com>,
> Dan Rossi <dro...@transarc.com> wrote:
> > Yeah, I know, I'm the last guy you'd expect to have something to
> > say on this topic.
>
> I do wonder what skydiving is for you. Maybe you could work
> up a post on this sometime.
>

It'll have to wait until I get back from vacation. Anybody else going to
the Reno Air Races? Noting like 3500HP prop-jobs screaming by you at
480MPH 80 feet off the deck to get the blood going.

Acmderek

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Sep 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/17/98
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Hey, I grew up in Napa and even worked for a balloon company for a while. When
did you jump there? How much$$$? (I have 3 balloon jumps, all in GA, for $100
ea-included champange breakfast) I am going to out there for Christmas and
would love to jump a balloon. Please e-mail with $ & #. Thanks
Derek

Livendive

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umm.... Perris - because there's nothing like looking down and seeing 3 otters
and a skyvan ready to take you back up. hehe

Seriously tho, I am not nearly as well travelled as many who post here, however
can say that Lost Prairie is breathtaking. Kapowsin, with Mt. Rainier right
there next to it, is also beautiful. Worst view I've seen was at Skydance, but
only because the gun club 200 yards away seems to engulf the entire possible
landing area. I had been hearing shots regularly, all day, and it puts a
little undue pressure on the jumper to not land out. hehe Of course I like
pressure, so I'm not really sure what I'm trying to say.

EFS,
Dave

SKY...@ix.netcom.com

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Livendive wrote:

> umm.... Perris - because there's nothing like looking down and seeing 3 otters
> and a skyvan ready to take you back up. hehe

What about the San Bernadino Mountains (when there's no smog of course)!

> Worst view I've seen was at Skydance,

I have to ask Dave, do you have a problem looking around in freefall or under
canopy?

At Skydance if you look to the north you can see the Sutter Buttes, the only
western mountain range that goes from east to west. Beyond them on a clear day you
can see Mt. Lassen and the Volcanic area, Mt. Shasta and the Southern Cascade
Mountains. Glance towards the northeast and see the Sierra Buttes, follow through
to the south and cast your eyes over the whole of the Northern Sierra Nevada
Mountain Range as you look towards Yosemite and Mt. Whitney. To the west you can
see Napa Valley and the rest of the wine country right on out to the Pacific Ocean.
Look a little to the south and spot San Francisco, the whole Bay Area, Golden Gate
Bridge and The Presidio. Further to the southwest you can see the Monterey Bay
Area. Keep looking towards the south and the whole of the San Joaquin Valley
stretches past the Sierra Madre's towards the San Gabriel Mountains beyond which
lays Los Angeles, of course you can't see that from here because of the smog but
open your mind and it's there! ;-)

> but
> only because the gun club 200 yards away seems to engulf the entire possible
> landing area.

We actually have two landing areas, the very large one near the gun club is for
experienced and confident jumpers. Our student area and for those less confident is
a half mile away from the gun club and even larger, we run a shuttle service
between there and the airport.

> I had been hearing shots regularly, all day, and it puts a
> little undue pressure on the jumper to not land out. hehe Of course I like
> pressure, so I'm not really sure what I'm trying to say.

The location of the gun club certainly encourages those at our dropzone to become
'heads up' canopy pilots, though it's been weeks since anyone got shot trying to
get back from a bad bad spot!

Nah! not really. We don't get bad spots! ;-)

When you are in the area next you should come on out and try us and our turbine
aircraft that whisk you to 14.000 ft in minutes. But hey, don't forget to look
around while you're up there 'cause I gotta agree with Dave, if all you do is look
straight down it's a pretty bland view, just as is Eloy, Perris, Sebastian and many
other dropzones I have jumped at.

Blue ones,
Stay Safe and enjoy the view.

Martin Evans.

--
"Never confuse movement with action". Ernest Hemingway

RHallifax

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<<The location of the gun club certainly encourages those at our dropzone to
become
'heads up' canopy pilots,>>

I'll have to remember that, and bring my skeet gun next time I'm that way....
I'm better at that than canopy control..

Bob

Curtis Mummert

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Sep 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/17/98
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kapowsin - outside of Tcoma WA. Mt Ranier makes a giant reference point for beginning FF!

KiloFly

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SKY...@ix.netcom.com wrote in article <36015A19...@ix.netcom.com>...
>
<snip>

open your mind and it's there! ;-)
>

Its the vibe that counts...@Skydance, its all good !
SO


JDove617

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Sep 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/18/98
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The scenery at our local DZ....is mother natures at its best.... :)
But, what captures me....are the SUNSETS, you talk about
scenery.......beautiful!!!!

RxBxOBrien

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Sep 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/22/98
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Hi Paul,

I haven't jumped at numerous dz's, but the nicest views I've ever seen are as
follows:

1. Skydive Key West - about 20 miles north of Key West, all you can see are
miles of islands. Very expensive, around $35 per jump if memory serves me, and
minimum D license because there is hardly anywhere to land, but definitely
worth it.

2. Skydive Sebastian, Florida - beautiful view of the inter-coastal waterways.

3. Relatively North Skydiving - non-USPA dz in Michigan's Upper Peninsula,
Baraga, Michigan. Beautiful view of Lake Superior and the Kewenaw Peninsula
and miles and miles of forest, rivers, etc...Wilderness jumping at it's best...

Blue Skies,

Brenda and Ron...

BVAskydive

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Sep 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/23/98
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Skydive Monterey Bay in California and Emerald Coast Skydiving have some of the
nicest views I've seen and those beach jump loads at ECS really rocks!

Blue Skies
Billy

P.S. I've also jumped at Sebastain

Dan Rossi

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Kevin O'Connell requested:


In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.980912...@smithfield.transarc.com>,
Dan Rossi <dro...@transarc.com> wrote:
> Yeah, I know, I'm the last guy you'd expect to have something to
> say on this topic.

> I do wonder what skydiving is for you. Maybe you could work
> up a post on this sometime.

Well, you asked for it.

"What skydiving means to me." Almost sounds like the title of an
elementary school essay

Well, I don't really know that skydiving one sense short makes it very
different for me than for other people. I do certain things a bit
differently, but on the whole it's still skydiving. I know there are a
couple of schools of thought here and I personally subscribe to the
"death is real" theory. When I jump, I am more aware of death. I never
wonder if I'll pull, or "is this the one that'll get me", I just am more
aware of the fine line between living and not. This somehow cheers me
and infuriates me during the weeks between my jumps. On the one hand it
makes me appreciate my life a lot. I can enjoy good food and music and
backpacking and skiing that much more by knowing my time on Earth is an
undetermined amount. On the other hand it drives me crazy to know this
and to think that I spend 8..10..12 hours a day sitting in an office
fighting with little boxes of silicon, wire, and other peoples ideas of
logic.

So much for the philosophic side of the argument. If you want to talk
about the realities of my skydiving it's pretty basic. When I was going
through AFF the instructors were confused about why I kept coming back.
They figured I'd come to my senses and realize that I couldn't get
anything out of skydiving. Never-the-less, I'd come back, they'd slip
off to the back room, throw away the limitations they secretely set
after the last jump, and we'd go up and bang out another level. I did
it in ten jumps, failed none. Once, my instructor pulled me aside.

"Dan, what do you want to get out of skydiving? I mean, what do you see
yourself doing later in the sport?"

I thought for a second and replied, "all I really want to be able to do
is exit the aircraft solo, and get pinned in free fall." In other
words, I lied through my teeth. :-) After the first few free fall jumps
it became obvious to me that skydiving was very doable. I then wanted
to do everything that any normal skydiver could do. I had plans of
four-ways, bigger-ways, solos, CRW, I wanted to do it all. However, I
knew that I couldn't tell the instructors that. I had to be nice and
conservative, set low achievable goals, so that they would continue to
go along with it. It all seems to have worked out.

After a couple of hundred jumps I have pretty much succeeded in proving
to myself that most of skydiving is accessible to me. With practice I
might even become half-way decent at RW or free-style. I'll never
regularly swoop a formation. I won't ever get on a huge-way. I won't
do demos. What I will do is have a lot of fun.

The sense of three dimensional motion is very exhilarating. The lack of
obsticles is often relieving. The fragility of a formation is
challenging. The rush of adrenaline is invigorating.

Why did I start skydiving? Lots of reasons I guess. I saw it on TV as
a kid and thought it looked "kuuell". I wanted to fly but knew planes
were out of my reach. To a certain extent it was just to fly in the
face of all those that have always told me, and still do, "you can't do
that!" I hate to be told I can't do something if the best argument
against it is, "because you're blind." I continue to skydive because of
all the reasons above and because it is part of my life now. It is part
of who I am. I will bend the sport around me to make sure that I have a
place in it. To use a beaten-to-death cliche, I will think outside the
box to solve the unsolvable.

EESH! Enough spouting from me.


Kevin O'Connell continued:

[snip]
> It was back in the late
> fall of 1974, I was seven years old at the time. The time was
> drawing near for me to go into the hospital to have my second eye
> removed. My family was trying to expose me to many visual stimuli
> so that I might remember them in the future.
[snip]

> Did it work? Do you remember most of that stuff?

To answer your second question. A resounding yes! The visual
recollections I have from back then are amazingly vivid. Of course,
they're 25 years old now, but still vivid. I often wonder if I would
recognize myself in a mirror. I use all of those memories to build knew
images. All of my friends who I've made since I lost my sight all have
distinct faces. Faces I have put together after talking with them and
finding out who they are and what they're all about. My image of people
is strongly based on how well I interact with them. Not surprisingly,
all of the women I have dated have been staggeringly beautiful, (in my
mind). :-)

To relate this back to the original message. I can see those leaves as
clear as day. I can see the needle on the Air Speed Indicator unwinding
as the pilot talked me through pulling the throttle out on landing. I
can also see my canopy above me when I jump. I can see the action on
the screen when I go to the movies. I can see the Space Shuttle Tile
inspector robot that I had a hand in designing. I couldn't have done
that had I not been the person I am. Had I not had sight at one time I
don't think I could have visualized it well enough to get my ideas
across. Had I not been blind I probably would have been biased by the
same designs that my sighted coworkers tried to copy.

Now that is quite enough out of me.

Hopefully I'll see some of you guys at the bridge this year. I won't be
jumping but I want to be there. If you see some guy wandering around
with a white cane and his hand on someone's shoulder it's a good bet
it'll be me.

Wulfe

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Thanks for sharing, Dan. It's greatly appreciated.

Acoustically Perfect Skies,
Nathan

kr...@philly.infi.net

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Sep 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/29/98
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In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.98092...@smithfield.transarc.com>,
Dan Rossi <dro...@transarc.com> wrote:

> To a certain extent it was just to fly in the
> face of all those that have always told me, and still do, "you can't do
> that!" I hate to be told I can't do something if the best argument
> against it is, "because you're blind." I continue to skydive because of
> all the reasons above and because it is part of my life now. It is part
> of who I am. I will bend the sport around me to make sure that I have a
> place in it. To use a beaten-to-death cliche, I will think outside the
> box to solve the unsolvable.

And, Danny, I think that is the reason all of us skydive ... to prove that we
can rise above the limitations that other people try to set for us. You have
just managed to do it quite a bit better than most folks!

Blue ones to you, Danny, and thanks for sharing that ... and for giving us
this glimpse inside of your soul.

--rita

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