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ge...@none.net

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Jan 2, 2010, 2:00:34 PM1/2/10
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We're missing a Tour de Ski thread. First off, many many thanks to our
hero, BasilBrush! Excellent quality videos. Some of the videos on the
Tour de Ski site are also interesting too, if you can get them to work
(today most wouldn't for me in XP).

Two races in and Northug has sure got the afterburners glowing. A
very special kind of skier, with a most unusual leg motion in his
skate surge. And Kowalcyzk's performance in the 10k today was
impressive, grabbing the lead at 3k and and extending it over every
skier in the field during the last K+.

Gene

Terje Mathisen

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Jan 3, 2010, 5:23:23 AM1/3/10
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ge...@none.net wrote:
> Two races in and Northug has sure got the afterburners glowing. A
> very special kind of skier, with a most unusual leg motion in his

In the after-race interviews on NRK, Petter was asked: "But what if the
race had been 15-20m shorter, then you wouldn't have managed to catch up?"

His instant reply (with a bit of tongue-in-cheek) "Oh, but then I would
have started 15-20m earlier!" :-)

> skate surge. And Kowalcyzk's performance in the 10k today was
> impressive, grabbing the lead at 3k and and extending it over every
> skier in the field during the last K+.

Right, she's the one to beat this year, it seems.

Terje

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- <Terje.Mathisen at tmsw.no>
"almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching"

k.a.m...@mts.net

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Jan 3, 2010, 8:20:14 AM1/3/10
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On Jan 2, 1:00 pm, g...@none.net wrote:
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> We're missing a Tour de Ski thread. First off, many many thanks to our
> hero, BasilBrush! Excellent quality videos. Some of the videos on the
> Tour de Ski site are also interesting too, if you can get them to work
> (today most wouldn't for me in XP).


Yes, many of owe BasilBrush major thanks. It's fantastic that us North
Americans are able to watch Nordic World Cup races in MP4 (1024x600)
on the same day they were held in Europe. It appears to me that there
are well over 100 of us who regularly "subscribe" to his service.

Kevin Miller
Winnipeg, Canada

Jan Gerrit Klok

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Jan 3, 2010, 4:14:04 PM1/3/10
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For a few Euro's, I think you could subscribe to the live footage via
eurosport.com
Although I'm in Europe, I catch up on a lot of good skiing via
BasilBrush. I try to seed them the next 24-48 hours, providing I'm
awake.

The Gelsenkirchen invitational Biathlon races are really to be
recommended. I'll seed those a bit more. It's good at showing how fas
the skiing really is.


--
Jan Gerrit Klok

ge...@none.net

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Jan 3, 2010, 8:15:40 PM1/3/10
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Eurosport is not allowed to broadcast into North America. They can
spot it from the IP address.

Gene

Anders

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:51:45 AM1/4/10
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On Jan 3, 12:23 pm, Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no">
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> In the after-race interviews on NRK, Petter was asked: "But what if the
> race had been 15-20m shorter, then you wouldn't have managed to catch up?"
>
> His instant reply (with a bit of tongue-in-cheek) "Oh, but then I would
> have started 15-20m earlier!" :-)

Magnificently bragadocious - once again - and absolutely true, too!


Talking about what-ifs, Matti Heikkinen, who confessed to having been
too certain that Saturday's 15 km race would consist of four laps of
Friday's 3.75 km course, admitted that he would have started his
breakaway later.
But IMHO it was precisely because he made his perhaps foolish-looking
move so early that no-one followed him - and it would've probably been
a much less exciting race, had it not been for the gap he drew and the
ensuing chase during the last lap,


Anders

Terje Mathisen

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Jan 4, 2010, 7:58:50 AM1/4/10
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Anders wrote:
> On Jan 3, 12:23 pm, Terje Mathisen<"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no">
> wrote:
>
>> In the after-race interviews on NRK, Petter was asked: "But what if the
>> race had been 15-20m shorter, then you wouldn't have managed to catch up?"
>>
>> His instant reply (with a bit of tongue-in-cheek) "Oh, but then I would
>> have started 15-20m earlier!" :-)
>
> Magnificently bragadocious - once again - and absolutely true, too!

Yesterday he started to look almost human: Very tired, and the sprint
reservoir seemed to be running on empty at the end.

I'm fairly certain Emil would have won without that "attack from behind"
that felled him, and messed up Axel T as well. In the end if worked out
very well for Norway, but not the way we like to win any race.


>
> Talking about what-ifs, Matti Heikkinen, who confessed to having been
> too certain that Saturday's 15 km race would consist of four laps of
> Friday's 3.75 km course, admitted that he would have started his
> breakaway later.

<BG>

> But IMHO it was precisely because he made his perhaps foolish-looking
> move so early that no-one followed him - and it would've probably been
> a much less exciting race, had it not been for the gap he drew and the
> ensuing chase during the last lap,

Right, it could have been quite boring otherwise.

ge...@none.net

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Jan 4, 2010, 2:19:01 PM1/4/10
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Prague street sprint course looked like a sugar mess by the heats. In
parts of the course almost all skiers were double poling along the side
rather than spend a lot of energy out in the middle. Some corners
were hard to find an inside line and generally passing was tricky, tho
obviously done. All that and the flat course favors some skiers over
others, and the fourth day in a row also took its toll. Some
nonqualifiers (Northug, Steira) and some who looked whipped or were
just hanging on at some point in the heats or final (Newell, Saarinen,
Kowalczyk, Madjic). Big day for Korostoleva, Brun-Lie and the Swedish
men.

Gene

Terje Mathisen

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Jan 4, 2010, 3:22:55 PM1/4/10
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ge...@none.net wrote:
> Prague street sprint course looked like a sugar mess by the heats. In
> parts of the course almost all skiers were double poling along the side
> rather than spend a lot of energy out in the middle. Some corners
> were hard to find an inside line and generally passing was tricky, tho
> obviously done. All that and the flat course favors some skiers over
> others, and the fourth day in a row also took its toll. Some
> nonqualifiers (Northug, Steira) and some who looked whipped or were

Steira was just as expected, but Petter missing the qualification was a
big disappointment. :-(

OTOH, it seems like Petter really needed some proper rest now, he seemed
very tired yesterday and according to �ge Skinstad he skied fast for the
first half today, then blew up.

From what I've seen of the current standings, it seems like Emil will
start a long way in front of everyone else, with Petter in the middle of
the chasing group two days from now. That's probably better for him than
starting a minute in front of most of them. :-)

> just hanging on at some point in the heats or final (Newell, Saarinen,
> Kowalczyk, Madjic). Big day for Korostoleva, Brun-Lie and the Swedish
> men.

Indeed, Emil getting both the victory that was robbed from him yesterday
and a big lead in the overall tour was well deserved.

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