On 05/09/2013 07:13 PM,
Horva...@net.net wrote:
> On Thu, 09 May 2013 17:15:46 -0700, The Real Bev
> <
bashl...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:
>
>>> Try some weedkiller, it's much easier than pulling or whacking weeds.
>>> My lawn service does an efficient jobs of keeping the weeds out of my
>>> lawn but they won't spray around the flowers. I use Ortho
>>> Weed-B-Gone. It's loaded with 2-4-D, the same ingredient in Agent
>>> Orange. It does a wonderful job of killing weeds and won't hurt the
>>> flowers. Follow the instructions and make sure you dilute it.
>>
>>I have some of that as a hose-end sprayer. Works fine. BUT it kills
>>broadleaf weeds in grass lawns.
It does a lovely job on both burweed and burclover, both of which have
really prolific painful seeds that stick in your skin as well as your
socks. Even with my glasses off I can spot a tiny burclover plant at 6
feet. Similar to real clover, but evil. I used to pull it by hand --
there's something really satisfying about pulling up a square foot of
weed with one careful twist-pull -- but there's too much of it. Some
people's lawns are composed entirely of burclover, and they're the ones
who produce the seeds that spread far and wide.
>>I want to kill grass on bare dirt.
>>I've tried Roundup on grass -- my finger gets tired of squeezing long
>>before anything worthwhile has happened. Some of the devilgrass turns
>>brown, but new growth covers the dead part. I suppose a backpack
>>sprayer would be more useful, but seems like overkill for the areas in
>>question.
>
> You use a hand sprayer? You can buy a small pump-up tank. It's a can
> that you put your solution in, then pump it up and spray around
> without your fingers getting blisters.
I may even have one out in The Shed... The green 1-gallon containers
(Ortho, maybe?) with the pull-out pump thing are absolutely worthless.
> It also sounds like you are diluting it too much.
Sounds reasonable, but I used the ready-to-use stuff. I've got some
concentrate somewhere...
>>I bought a smallish propane weed burner to deal with the cracks in the
>>cement/blacktop. Looked fine at the time -- everything well charred --
>>but it all came back after the first rain.
>
> I've never used one of those. Try putting some anti-freeze in the
> cracks.
I don't like to do that. The area is unfenced and dogs might lap it up.
I wouldn't mind if possums got it, though. I've tried pouring oil on
it, but it just laughs.
> You probably have different weeds than we have here. I've never heard
> of devilgrass. You might have a different kind of grass that's not as
> tough as Northern grass. We have mostly Kentucky bluegrass here. The
> golf courses use fescue. I've noticed in Florida that the golf
> courses use a different grass.
Comman Bermuda grass. I've always called it devilgrass, and google
images confirms it. I finally looked up a picture. Grows really well
where you don't want it to and seems to have stubborn roots 2" deep. Not
sure what the stuff with the nasty seeds is, but it's a clumping annual
that grows really fast after the first rain.
If you buy grass by the yard, unfortunately a common occurrence around
here, it's fescue. Stupid stuff to plant in SoCal because it's really
thirsty. They use a lot of St. Augustine here too, which I hate. No idea
what the fine stuff they use on putting greens is, but it's pretty.
When we moved in 45 years ago the former owners had planted dichondra,
which died pretty quickly due to neglect. Every once in a while I still
find a little bit of it hiding in a corner, so it's tougher than it looks.
It rained again today, so I can't whack until it gets a bit drier.
Poison is a last resort.
>>The only reasons I really care about getting rid of the weeds is that
>>(1) the city will whine and (b) the seeds get stuck in our socks and shoes.
>
> Our weeds don't have seeds.
So they reproduce asexually? Odd. I wouldn't think they'd be much of a
problem, then.
>>Sorry, fish are garbage, not booty. The key thing is good, though.
>
> Our fish is not garbage. You've never had Lake Erie Perch or Lake
> Erie Walleye. It's $13 a pound here, if you can find it. It's not
> sold in supermarkets, you have to go to a fish market to get it or
> catch your own. In Ca. it's probably over $20 a pound.
Fish would be OK if it didn't taste fishy. Halibut and scallops are
good, and sometimes shrimp, but the rest is garbage. Tuna is OK if you
mix in enough other stuff along with the mayo and pickle relish.
> The stuff you buy at Burger King or McDonalds is garbage. The stuff
> you buy in the supermarket is garbage.
I wouldn't know, so I'll take your word for it.