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Dave Stallard

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May 5, 2013, 10:11:25 PM5/5/13
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I guess ski season is over. ;)

Dave

The Real Bev

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May 5, 2013, 10:37:02 PM5/5/13
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On 05/05/2013 07:11 PM, Dave Stallard wrote:

> I guess ski season is over. ;)

No shit. I just washed my ski clothes and put them away.

I just got some nifty gloves at a yard sale that have a loop that goes
over your wrist so you can take a glove off and just drop it without
actually dropping it. The bad news is that unless you're really careful
the loop comes off along with the glove. Oops :-(

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-- Carmen Boyle
Olympic Luge Gold Medal winner - 1996


pigo

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May 6, 2013, 10:33:14 AM5/6/13
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On Sunday, May 5, 2013 8:11:25 PM UTC-6, Dave Stallard wrote:
> I guess ski season is over. ;)
> Dave

Mine is almost there.

lal_truckee

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May 6, 2013, 11:29:27 AM5/6/13
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On 5/5/13 7:37 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> The bad news is that unless you're really careful the loop comes off
> along with the glove.

Loop should have a slide to snug up against your wrist to avoid just
that problem.

Bob F

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May 6, 2013, 11:51:04 AM5/6/13
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The Real Bev wrote:
> On 05/05/2013 07:11 PM, Dave Stallard wrote:
>
>> I guess ski season is over. ;)
>
> No shit. I just washed my ski clothes and put them away.
>
> I just got some nifty gloves at a yard sale that have a loop that goes
> over your wrist so you can take a glove off and just drop it without
> actually dropping it. The bad news is that unless you're really
> careful the loop comes off along with the glove. Oops :-(

I saw someone this season with those, struggling with their equipment and the
two gloves wrapping around each others cords like handcuffs. They actually
looked like they could become hazardous.


The Real Bev

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May 6, 2013, 1:15:50 PM5/6/13
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They do, but that makes them harder to take off and put on. Mostly what
I want to take a glove off for is to quickly operate my camera, which
involves fishing it out from under my jacket -- tiny camera which hangs
on a cord around my neck.

Fuji JX520 that does fine with photos, but on-snow movies (what I
actually bought the camera for!) are frequently pink with
object-generated vertical streaks, even when facing away from the sun.
Doesn't have separate controls for the video function, which is
annoying. $60 closeout that actually only cost me $6 so I shouldn't
complain and I'm not, just wishing.

I don't see how people can deal with screen-only cameras in bright
sunlight. It's not 'point and shoot' it's 'point in the general
direction of what you want to shoot and shoot'. Same with phones.
Totally useless in bright sun.

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deserve to have any." --Oscar Wilde

Horva...@net.net

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May 6, 2013, 2:32:20 PM5/6/13
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On Mon, 06 May 2013 10:15:50 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashl...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:

>I don't see how people can deal with screen-only cameras in bright
>sunlight. It's not 'point and shoot' it's 'point in the general
>direction of what you want to shoot and shoot'. Same with phones.
>Totally useless in bright sun.

I have an Olympus and it works fine. You saw my pics from Disney
World.

There's no need to fear if Trunky is near.

The Real Bev

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May 7, 2013, 12:33:00 AM5/7/13
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On 05/06/2013 11:32 AM, Horva...@net.net wrote:
> <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:
>
>>I don't see how people can deal with screen-only cameras in bright
>>sunlight. It's not 'point and shoot' it's 'point in the general
>>direction of what you want to shoot and shoot'. Same with phones.
>>Totally useless in bright sun.
>
> I have an Olympus and it works fine. You saw my pics from Disney
> World.

You don't look like you write.

The results, with stills anyway, are OK, I'd just like a REAL viewfinder

It rained today. Or rather sprinkled or drizzled. Is it winter yet?

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every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there
picking the locks, they are always locking three.

Horva...@net.net

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May 7, 2013, 12:55:58 PM5/7/13
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On Mon, 06 May 2013 21:33:00 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashl...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:

>On 05/06/2013 11:32 AM, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>> <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:
>>
>>>I don't see how people can deal with screen-only cameras in bright
>>>sunlight. It's not 'point and shoot' it's 'point in the general
>>>direction of what you want to shoot and shoot'. Same with phones.
>>>Totally useless in bright sun.
>>
>> I have an Olympus and it works fine. You saw my pics from Disney
> > World.
>
>You don't look like you write.

? I've been writing since I was five.

>The results, with stills anyway, are OK, I'd just like a REAL viewfinder
>
>It rained today. Or rather sprinkled or drizzled. Is it winter yet?

Winter is over, stick a fork in it. It's grass cutting, sailing,
baseball, fishing, golf, biking, pirating, gardening, season. It's 65
and sunny and I just got back from a five mile bike ride. My skis are
waxed and put away and my golf clubs and fishing rod are next to me.

The Real Bev

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May 9, 2013, 1:31:59 AM5/9/13
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On 05/07/2013 09:55 AM, Horva...@net.net wrote:
> <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:
>> Horvie wrote:
>>> I have an Olympus and it works fine. You saw my pics from Disney
>> > World.
>>
>>You don't look like you write.
>
> ? I've been writing since I was five.

:-)

> Winter is over, stick a fork in it. It's grass cutting, sailing,
> baseball, fishing, golf, biking, pirating, gardening, season. It's 65
> and sunny and I just got back from a five mile bike ride. My skis are
> waxed and put away and my golf clubs and fishing rod are next to me.

Cherry tomato plants are over a foot high now, with flowers. Volunteer
from last year's crop likewise repotted. Next project: whack the weeds
that have sprung up since I whacked a few weeks ago. Every weed seed
that goes into the trash is one less weed to whack next year.

Piracy doesn't look too good this year. Too many pirates, not enough
booty. I guess most of the swash was buckled last year. Gotta turn to
politics, at least for a while. NEVER a bad year for politicians.

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Horva...@net.net

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May 9, 2013, 9:50:50 AM5/9/13
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On Wed, 08 May 2013 22:31:59 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashl...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:

>On 05/07/2013 09:55 AM, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>> <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:
>>> Horvie wrote:
>>>> I have an Olympus and it works fine. You saw my pics from Disney
>>> > World.
>>>
>>>You don't look like you write.
>>
>> ? I've been writing since I was five.
>
>:-)
>
>> Winter is over, stick a fork in it. It's grass cutting, sailing,
>> baseball, fishing, golf, biking, pirating, gardening, season. It's 65
>> and sunny and I just got back from a five mile bike ride. My skis are
>> waxed and put away and my golf clubs and fishing rod are next to me.
>
>Cherry tomato plants are over a foot high now, with flowers.

I do that kind of gardening at the supermarket.

> Volunteer
>from last year's crop likewise repotted. Next project: whack the weeds
>that have sprung up since I whacked a few weeks ago. Every weed seed
>that goes into the trash is one less weed to whack next year.

Try some weedkiller, it's much easier than pulling or whacking weeds.
My lawn service does an efficient jobs of keeping the weeds out of my
lawn but they won't spray around the flowers. I use Ortho
Weed-B-Gone. It's loaded with 2-4-D, the same ingredient in Agent
Orange. It does a wonderful job of killing weeds and won't hurt the
flowers. Follow the instructions and make sure you dilute it.

>Piracy doesn't look too good this year. Too many pirates, not enough
>booty. I guess most of the swash was buckled last year.

There's always more boats to scuttle. We steal all their fish and
drink all their grog. It's always funny to dangle their keys in front
of their faces before throwing the keys overboard.

> Gotta turn to
>politics, at least for a while. NEVER a bad year for politicians.

Always a bad year for politics.

The Real Bev

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May 9, 2013, 8:15:46 PM5/9/13
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I have some of that as a hose-end sprayer. Works fine. BUT it kills
broadleaf weeds in grass lawns. I want to kill grass on bare dirt.
I've tried Roundup on grass -- my finger gets tired of squeezing long
before anything worthwhile has happened. Some of the devilgrass turns
brown, but new growth covers the dead part. I suppose a backpack
sprayer would be more useful, but seems like overkill for the areas in
question.

I bought a smallish propane weed burner to deal with the cracks in the
cement/blacktop. Looked fine at the time -- everything well charred --
but it all came back after the first rain.

The only reasons I really care about getting rid of the weeds is that
(1) the city will whine and (b) the seeds get stuck in our socks and shoes.

>>Piracy doesn't look too good this year. Too many pirates, not enough
>>booty. I guess most of the swash was buckled last year.
>
> There's always more boats to scuttle. We steal all their fish and
> drink all their grog. It's always funny to dangle their keys in front
> of their faces before throwing the keys overboard.

Sorry, fish are garbage, not booty. The key thing is good, though.


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Dave Stallard

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May 9, 2013, 10:00:26 PM5/9/13
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On Sunday, May 5, 2013 10:37:02 PM UTC-4, The Real Bev wrote:

> I just got some nifty gloves at a yard sale that have a loop that goes
> over your wrist so you can take a glove off and just drop it without
> actually dropping it. The bad news is that unless you're really careful
> the loop comes off along with the glove. Oops :-(

Wrist leashes. Love 'em; they are a must.

My first pair of Marmot gloves had wrist leashes that were waaay too long. But I lost them. The leashes on my second pair are the right length. But that pair has a lot of holes in them now.

Dave

Horva...@net.net

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May 9, 2013, 10:13:13 PM5/9/13
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On Thu, 09 May 2013 17:15:46 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashl...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:

>> Try some weedkiller, it's much easier than pulling or whacking weeds.
>> My lawn service does an efficient jobs of keeping the weeds out of my
>> lawn but they won't spray around the flowers. I use Ortho
>> Weed-B-Gone. It's loaded with 2-4-D, the same ingredient in Agent
>> Orange. It does a wonderful job of killing weeds and won't hurt the
>> flowers. Follow the instructions and make sure you dilute it.
>
>I have some of that as a hose-end sprayer. Works fine. BUT it kills
>broadleaf weeds in grass lawns. I want to kill grass on bare dirt.
>I've tried Roundup on grass -- my finger gets tired of squeezing long
>before anything worthwhile has happened. Some of the devilgrass turns
>brown, but new growth covers the dead part. I suppose a backpack
>sprayer would be more useful, but seems like overkill for the areas in
>question.

You use a hand sprayer? You can buy a small pump-up tank. It's a can
that you put your solution in, then pump it up and spray around
without your fingers getting blisters.

It also sounds like you are diluting it too much.

>I bought a smallish propane weed burner to deal with the cracks in the
>cement/blacktop. Looked fine at the time -- everything well charred --
>but it all came back after the first rain.

I've never used one of those. Try putting some anti-freeze in the
cracks.

You probably have different weeds than we have here. I've never heard
of devilgrass. You might have a different kind of grass that's not as
tough as Northern grass. We have mostly Kentucky bluegrass here. The
golf courses use fescue. I've noticed in Florida that the golf
courses use a different grass.

>The only reasons I really care about getting rid of the weeds is that
>(1) the city will whine and (b) the seeds get stuck in our socks and shoes.

Our weeds don't have seeds.

>>>Piracy doesn't look too good this year. Too many pirates, not enough
>>>booty. I guess most of the swash was buckled last year.
>>
>> There's always more boats to scuttle. We steal all their fish and
>> drink all their grog. It's always funny to dangle their keys in front
>> of their faces before throwing the keys overboard.
>
>Sorry, fish are garbage, not booty. The key thing is good, though.

Our fish is not garbage. You've never had Lake Erie Perch or Lake
Erie Walleye. It's $13 a pound here, if you can find it. It's not
sold in supermarkets, you have to go to a fish market to get it or
catch your own. In Ca. it's probably over $20 a pound.

The stuff you buy at Burger King or McDonalds is garbage. The stuff
you buy in the supermarket is garbage.

Dave Stallard

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May 9, 2013, 10:17:16 PM5/9/13
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On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 12:55:58 PM UTC-4, Horva...@net.net wrote:

> Winter is over, stick a fork in it. It's grass cutting, sailing,
> baseball, fishing, golf, biking, pirating, gardening, season. It's 65
> and sunny and I just got back from a five mile bike ride.

Five miles? I wouldn't know how to do a five mile bike ride. Even a 50 mile ride feels kind of pissy. I prefer a good 80 mile ride once summer gets in gear. Last summer, I was doing 100+ rides every weekend for the last few weeks.

Mind you, I don't do it fast. And I do feel like hammered cat crap the next day. It's not a very healthy habit. ;)

Dave

Horva...@net.net

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May 10, 2013, 12:30:29 AM5/10/13
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On Thu, 9 May 2013 19:17:16 -0700 (PDT), Dave Stallard
<dgsta...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:

>On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 12:55:58 PM UTC-4, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>
>> Winter is over, stick a fork in it. It's grass cutting, sailing,
>> baseball, fishing, golf, biking, pirating, gardening, season. It's 65
>> and sunny and I just got back from a five mile bike ride.
>
>Five miles? I wouldn't know how to do a five mile bike ride. Even a
> 50 mile ride feels kind of pissy. I prefer a good 80 mile ride once
> summer gets in gear. Last summer, I was doing 100+ rides
> every weekend for the last few weeks.

I ride every day, weather permitting. I only have a small window of
time so I can't be out long. Also, when the weather is nice I'm out
on the golf course, so I can't spend much time on the bike.

>Mind you, I don't do it fast. And I do feel like hammered
> cat crap the next day. It's not a very healthy habit. ;)

That's your problem.

The Real Bev

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May 10, 2013, 2:53:52 AM5/10/13
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On 05/09/2013 07:13 PM, Horva...@net.net wrote:

> On Thu, 09 May 2013 17:15:46 -0700, The Real Bev
> <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:
>
>>> Try some weedkiller, it's much easier than pulling or whacking weeds.
>>> My lawn service does an efficient jobs of keeping the weeds out of my
>>> lawn but they won't spray around the flowers. I use Ortho
>>> Weed-B-Gone. It's loaded with 2-4-D, the same ingredient in Agent
>>> Orange. It does a wonderful job of killing weeds and won't hurt the
>>> flowers. Follow the instructions and make sure you dilute it.
>>
>>I have some of that as a hose-end sprayer. Works fine. BUT it kills
>>broadleaf weeds in grass lawns.

It does a lovely job on both burweed and burclover, both of which have
really prolific painful seeds that stick in your skin as well as your
socks. Even with my glasses off I can spot a tiny burclover plant at 6
feet. Similar to real clover, but evil. I used to pull it by hand --
there's something really satisfying about pulling up a square foot of
weed with one careful twist-pull -- but there's too much of it. Some
people's lawns are composed entirely of burclover, and they're the ones
who produce the seeds that spread far and wide.

>>I want to kill grass on bare dirt.
>>I've tried Roundup on grass -- my finger gets tired of squeezing long
>>before anything worthwhile has happened. Some of the devilgrass turns
>>brown, but new growth covers the dead part. I suppose a backpack
>>sprayer would be more useful, but seems like overkill for the areas in
>>question.
>
> You use a hand sprayer? You can buy a small pump-up tank. It's a can
> that you put your solution in, then pump it up and spray around
> without your fingers getting blisters.

I may even have one out in The Shed... The green 1-gallon containers
(Ortho, maybe?) with the pull-out pump thing are absolutely worthless.

> It also sounds like you are diluting it too much.

Sounds reasonable, but I used the ready-to-use stuff. I've got some
concentrate somewhere...

>>I bought a smallish propane weed burner to deal with the cracks in the
>>cement/blacktop. Looked fine at the time -- everything well charred --
>>but it all came back after the first rain.
>
> I've never used one of those. Try putting some anti-freeze in the
> cracks.

I don't like to do that. The area is unfenced and dogs might lap it up.
I wouldn't mind if possums got it, though. I've tried pouring oil on
it, but it just laughs.

> You probably have different weeds than we have here. I've never heard
> of devilgrass. You might have a different kind of grass that's not as
> tough as Northern grass. We have mostly Kentucky bluegrass here. The
> golf courses use fescue. I've noticed in Florida that the golf
> courses use a different grass.

Comman Bermuda grass. I've always called it devilgrass, and google
images confirms it. I finally looked up a picture. Grows really well
where you don't want it to and seems to have stubborn roots 2" deep. Not
sure what the stuff with the nasty seeds is, but it's a clumping annual
that grows really fast after the first rain.

If you buy grass by the yard, unfortunately a common occurrence around
here, it's fescue. Stupid stuff to plant in SoCal because it's really
thirsty. They use a lot of St. Augustine here too, which I hate. No idea
what the fine stuff they use on putting greens is, but it's pretty.
When we moved in 45 years ago the former owners had planted dichondra,
which died pretty quickly due to neglect. Every once in a while I still
find a little bit of it hiding in a corner, so it's tougher than it looks.

It rained again today, so I can't whack until it gets a bit drier.
Poison is a last resort.

>>The only reasons I really care about getting rid of the weeds is that
>>(1) the city will whine and (b) the seeds get stuck in our socks and shoes.
>
> Our weeds don't have seeds.

So they reproduce asexually? Odd. I wouldn't think they'd be much of a
problem, then.

>>Sorry, fish are garbage, not booty. The key thing is good, though.
>
> Our fish is not garbage. You've never had Lake Erie Perch or Lake
> Erie Walleye. It's $13 a pound here, if you can find it. It's not
> sold in supermarkets, you have to go to a fish market to get it or
> catch your own. In Ca. it's probably over $20 a pound.

Fish would be OK if it didn't taste fishy. Halibut and scallops are
good, and sometimes shrimp, but the rest is garbage. Tuna is OK if you
mix in enough other stuff along with the mayo and pickle relish.

> The stuff you buy at Burger King or McDonalds is garbage. The stuff
> you buy in the supermarket is garbage.

I wouldn't know, so I'll take your word for it.

The Real Bev

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May 10, 2013, 2:58:58 AM5/10/13
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On 05/09/2013 07:17 PM, Dave Stallard wrote:

> On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 12:55:58 PM UTC-4, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>
>> Winter is over, stick a fork in it. It's grass cutting, sailing,
>> baseball, fishing, golf, biking, pirating, gardening, season. It's
>> 65 and sunny and I just got back from a five mile bike ride.
>
> Five miles? I wouldn't know how to do a five mile bike ride. Even a
> 50 mile ride feels kind of pissy. I prefer a good 80 mile ride once
> summer gets in gear. Last summer, I was doing 100+ rides every
> weekend for the last few weeks.

Before husband's valve replacement we did 10-mile bike rides every day.
Need to get back into it on non-gym days. I'm one of those lucky
people whose pitiful aerobic capacity does NOT improve with exercise,
but it's less painful and more enjoyable than the 20-second wind-sprints
I do on the ellipticals at the gym just to maintain. Moreover, it's
loquat season and I know where some "public" trees are.

In my defense, I can leg-press 320 pounds 8x3.

> Mind you, I don't do it fast. And I do feel like hammered cat crap
> the next day. It's not a very healthy habit. ;)

And then there's the crotch-rot, of course...

Horva...@net.net

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May 10, 2013, 8:29:16 AM5/10/13
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On Thu, 09 May 2013 23:53:52 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashl...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:

>
>>
>> I've never used one of those. Try putting some anti-freeze in the
>> cracks.
>
>I don't like to do that. The area is unfenced and dogs might lap it up.

That's the next good thing about using anti-freeze. Try some rock
salt.

>
>> You probably have different weeds than we have here. I've never heard
>> of devilgrass. You might have a different kind of grass that's not as
>> tough as Northern grass. We have mostly Kentucky bluegrass here. The
>> golf courses use fescue. I've noticed in Florida that the golf
>> courses use a different grass.
>
>Comman Bermuda grass. I've always called it devilgrass, and google
>images confirms it. I finally looked up a picture. Grows really well
>where you don't want it to and seems to have stubborn roots 2" deep. Not
>sure what the stuff with the nasty seeds is, but it's a clumping annual
>that grows really fast after the first rain.
>
>If you buy grass by the yard, unfortunately a common occurrence around
>here, it's fescue. Stupid stuff to plant in SoCal because it's really
>thirsty. They use a lot of St. Augustine here too, which I hate. No idea
>what the fine stuff they use on putting greens is, but it's pretty.
>When we moved in 45 years ago the former owners had planted dichondra,
>which died pretty quickly due to neglect. Every once in a while I still
>find a little bit of it hiding in a corner, so it's tougher than it looks.

Putting green grass is special grass and needs a lot of attention.

>It rained again today, so I can't whack until it gets a bit drier.
>Poison is a last resort.
>
>>>The only reasons I really care about getting rid of the weeds is that
>>>(1) the city will whine and (b) the seeds get stuck in our socks and shoes.
>>
>> Our weeds don't have seeds.
>
>So they reproduce asexually? Odd. I wouldn't think they'd be much of a
>problem, then.

Pollen or spores. Ragweed is very common. Pretty much only the
dandelions have seeds.

>>>Sorry, fish are garbage, not booty. The key thing is good, though.
>>
>> Our fish is not garbage. You've never had Lake Erie Perch or Lake
>> Erie Walleye. It's $13 a pound here, if you can find it. It's not
>> sold in supermarkets, you have to go to a fish market to get it or
>> catch your own. In Ca. it's probably over $20 a pound.
>
>Fish would be OK if it didn't taste fishy. Halibut and scallops are
>good, and sometimes shrimp, but the rest is garbage. Tuna is OK if you
>mix in enough other stuff along with the mayo and pickle relish.

Tuna is crap. I can tell that you've never had Lake Erie Perch.

Try some mahi-mahi sometime. It also doesn't taste like fish.

pigo

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May 10, 2013, 9:21:56 AM5/10/13
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On Thursday, May 9, 2013 6:15:46 PM UTC-6, The Real Bev wrote:

Get Round-Up for your hose end sprayer. Be careful what it drifts onto though.

The Real Bev

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May 10, 2013, 1:39:18 PM5/10/13
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On 05/10/2013 05:29 AM, Horva...@net.net wrote:

> On Thu, 09 May 2013 23:53:52 -0700, The Real Bev
> <bashl...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:
>
>>> I've never used one of those. Try putting some anti-freeze in the
>>> cracks.
>>
>>I don't like to do that. The area is unfenced and dogs might lap it up.
>
> That's the next good thing about using anti-freeze. Try some rock
> salt.

We've used that to kill a Chinese elm stump, but it took a number of
tries. The Martian archaeologists will find nothing but Schwinn Varsity
bicycles and cockroaches in groves of Chinese elms and wonder exactly
WTF it all means.

>>> Our weeds don't have seeds.
>>
>>So they reproduce asexually? Odd. I wouldn't think they'd be much of a
>>problem, then.
>
> Pollen or spores. Ragweed is very common. Pretty much only the
> dandelions have seeds.

Pollen is the same as sperm and is generated by the anthers of a flower.
Spores are different and are generated by ferns or fungi. People don't
trust tinyurls, so here's the full monty:

<https://www.google.com/search?lr=&safe=images&hl=en&as_qdr=all&biw=1317&bih=822&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=ragweed+flower+parts+diagram&oq=ragweed+flower+parts+diagram&gs_l=img.3...11285.13228.0.14459.8.8.0.0.0.0.122.626.7j1.8.0...0.0...1c.1.12.img.30ccIvE1IVM>

>>Fish would be OK if it didn't taste fishy. Halibut and scallops are
>>good, and sometimes shrimp, but the rest is garbage. Tuna is OK if you
>>mix in enough other stuff along with the mayo and pickle relish.
>
> Tuna is crap. I can tell that you've never had Lake Erie Perch.
>
> Try some mahi-mahi sometime. It also doesn't taste like fish.

Fudge doesn't taste like fish either. Or at least it shouldn't.

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Cheers, Bev
=================================================================
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people, too much authority from the states, and too much liberty
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