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JQ

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Dec 13, 2009, 10:30:04 PM12/13/09
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I am using windows 7 ultimate and MS outlook express is no longer
supported. I am currently using Mozilla Thunderbird and there is no
kill file or anything comparable to it. So my question, what good free
news reader can I get that has one?

Thanks,

JQ
Dancing on the edge

The Real Bev

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Dec 14, 2009, 12:43:46 AM12/14/09
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JQ wrote:

> I am using windows 7 ultimate and MS outlook express is no longer
> supported. I am currently using Mozilla Thunderbird and there is no
> kill file or anything comparable to it. So my question, what good free
> news reader can I get that has one?

Thunderbird's killfile capabilities are sufficient for THIS group. You only
need to killfile a few people to make life much more pleasant. Thunderbird
seems to pretend to also kill the thread that the killed person posts into, but
it doesn't actually do it.

--
Cheers, Bev
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Too many freaks, not enough circuses.

Mike Treseler

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Dec 14, 2009, 2:51:56 AM12/14/09
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JQ wrote:
> I am using windows 7 ultimate and MS outlook express is no longer
> supported. I am currently using Mozilla Thunderbird and there is no
> kill file or anything comparable to it.

Message, CreateFilterFromMessage, OK

VtSkier

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Dec 14, 2009, 8:46:43 AM12/14/09
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or

Tools, Message Filters, <fill in the blanks>

The one Mike mentions only does one thing. The
other one can filter by subject, etc.

JQ

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Dec 14, 2009, 10:03:58 AM12/14/09
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On 12/14/2009 12:43 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
> JQ wrote:
>
>> I am using windows 7 ultimate and MS outlook express is no longer
>> supported. I am currently using Mozilla Thunderbird and there is no
>> kill file or anything comparable to it. So my question, what good free
>> news reader can I get that has one?
>
> Thunderbird's killfile capabilities are sufficient for THIS group. You
> only need to killfile a few people to make life much more pleasant.
> Thunderbird seems to pretend to also kill the thread that the killed
> person posts into, but it doesn't actually do it.
>
I am using Thunderbird 3.0 for windows and I don't see any killfile
command. The filters seems to only work with e-mails. I looked at
Mozilla web site for a a way to kill file a person, thread or topic but
was unsuccessful. I seen that others had post the same question and
was told that there were no such command or way of doing it other than
to write some sort of script to use as an add on. If it is there I need
more help in finding it.

JQ

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Dec 14, 2009, 10:09:03 AM12/14/09
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This command does not work for newsgroups only for e-mails,

JQ

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Dec 14, 2009, 10:14:17 AM12/14/09
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I tried this one too, as I posted previously it only works on e-mail
accounts not newsgroups. That is why I am looking for another newsreader.

How's the skiing up there? Down here we had more rain in the past 3
months than I can ever remember. The weather however has also been out
of the ordinary too, but it is now finally looking like winter is around
the corner.

Walt

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Dec 14, 2009, 10:23:32 AM12/14/09
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JQ wrote:
> On 12/14/2009 8:46 AM, VtSkier wrote:
>> Mike Treseler wrote:

>>>
>>> Message, CreateFilterFromMessage, OK
>>
>> or
>>
>> Tools, Message Filters, <fill in the blanks>
>>

> I tried this one too, as I posted previously it only works on e-mail

> accounts not newsgroups. That is why I am looking for another newsreader.

What version of Thunderbird are you using?

These commands work for me.

P.S. The season got off to a bang on Friday - 15 degrees, 30MPH wind
blowing off the lake, white out conditions. At some points it was
dumping hard enough that you got fresh tracks every run.

//Walt

VtSkier

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Dec 14, 2009, 10:36:02 AM12/14/09
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I'm using XP and T-bird version 2.0.0.23 (20090812)

Try this. While you have t-bird set to a news account, use
the two message filters set ups that Mike and I recommend.
I think it might be something like this:
If you set up message filters while you are in your 'inbox'
or some other sub folder, the filter will work on email, if
you are in a news account, it will work on newsgroups. Try
it, this is how it seems in my version.

As for (ob)skiing, What little is open has been good. A foot
or so of natural last week and three inches last night made
even some of the natural snow trails (Escapade, Great Bear,
Mouse Trap(far skier's right), Cascade Headwall) were skiing
very well.

JQ

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Dec 14, 2009, 11:33:05 AM12/14/09
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I am using version 3.0

Thanks,

JQ

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Dec 14, 2009, 11:44:25 AM12/14/09
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I'm using version 3.0 I again tried the filter commands that you
suggested. The option that the commands will apply to is e-mail
accounts only. They must have changed the filter usage in in later
versions.

I hope to make it up to your neck of the woods this season but things
aren't looking good at this time. I sure hope this economy thing
improves soon.

Mike Treseler

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Dec 14, 2009, 1:49:52 PM12/14/09
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JQ wrote:

> I'm using version 3.0 I again tried the filter commands that you
> suggested. The option that the commands will apply to is e-mail
> accounts only. They must have changed the filter usage in in later
> versions.

I'm using Thunderbird 2.00.23 on suse linux and

Message, CreateFilterFromMessage, OK

... while I'm reading this newsgroup, eliminates my future
views of the present poster.
I agree that this is not described anywhere, but it does work.
Good luck.

-- Mike Treseler

The Real Bev

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Dec 14, 2009, 9:06:28 PM12/14/09
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JQ wrote:

> On 12/14/2009 8:46 AM, VtSkier wrote:
>> Mike Treseler wrote:
>>> JQ wrote:
>>>> I am using windows 7 ultimate and MS outlook express is no longer
>>>> supported. I am currently using Mozilla Thunderbird and there is no
>>>> kill file or anything comparable to it.
>>>
>>> Message, CreateFilterFromMessage, OK
>>
>> or
>>
>> Tools, Message Filters, <fill in the blanks>
>>
>> The one Mike mentions only does one thing. The
>> other one can filter by subject, etc.
> I tried this one too, as I posted previously it only works on e-mail
> accounts not newsgroups. That is why I am looking for another newsreader.

You can filter on three things for newsgroups. One of them is 'From' which is
generally all that's needed. Set the action to 'mark as read' and only read
unread messages. It's not fully intuitive, but when you get the hang of it it
works fine in its limited way. Certain people are only visible when somebody
replies to them.

People have been bitching about this forever, and a few people are working on
it. Perhaps they'll have it finished for TB3.5, but I'm still running 2.0.0.23.

> How's the skiing up there? Down here we had more rain in the past 3
> months than I can ever remember. The weather however has also been out
> of the ordinary too, but it is now finally looking like winter is around
> the corner.

Enough snow and open road here to give it a shot tomorrow.

--
Cheers, Bev
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like liberals do.
They don't have the energy. If they had that much energy,
they'd have indoor plumbing by now." -- Ann Coulter

The Real Bev

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Dec 14, 2009, 9:11:32 PM12/14/09
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JQ wrote:

3.0 is still a beta. Click on the news server name and THEN click on
Tools/Message Filters. There are two View entities -- Set the one on the top
line (File, Edit, View, Go etc.) to View/Threads/Unread and the View with the
selection box (mine is on the Get Mail, Write, Reply line) to All. That
selection box offers a lot of useful selections, and you can add your own.

> I hope to make it up to your neck of the woods this season but things
> aren't looking good at this time. I sure hope this economy thing
> improves soon.

And people in hell want ice water.

downhill

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Dec 15, 2009, 12:41:26 AM12/15/09
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http://www.seamonkey-project.org/

mozilla based integrated mail and browser create filter from message
under tools menu

I keep many different e-mail addresses different newsgroup servers and
it handles them all keeps inboxes separate and never explodes, my wife
uses outlook and curses it once a week

VtSkier

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Dec 15, 2009, 5:53:50 PM12/15/09
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I did what I suggested with you-know-who's posts
and I haven't seen a post from him for days. So
it does work, at least in TB-2.n

JQ

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Dec 16, 2009, 10:28:10 AM12/16/09
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Thanks all, I finally see what I was not doing and got the message
filter to work. I neede the filter to be directed to the this news
group not the newsgroup server. It does as Bev said, it marks the
unwanted posters or posts as read. Not the best but it helps.

VtSkier, my son has been in the hospital since Monday night. His right
lung collapsed for no apparent reason, the doctors seem to think it was
some sort of genetic defect. They have him on a small machine to remove
the air around his lung. Ths morning they are going to give him
another Xray then Cat Scan to check the condition of his lung and the
sack around the lung. If all is well the will remove the vacuum
machine. Then take another Xray if the lung is holding up they will
remove the tube and wait another 4 hours take another Xray. If after
this Xray everything looks good they will discharge him. Otherwise, the
they will replace the tube and start the process all over again.

I'm on my way to see him at the hospital now, hopefully all will be good.

VtSkier

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Dec 16, 2009, 11:10:55 AM12/16/09
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JQ wrote:
> On 12/13/2009 10:30 PM, JQ wrote:
>> I am using windows 7 ultimate and MS outlook express is no longer
>> supported. I am currently using Mozilla Thunderbird and there is no kill
>> file or anything comparable to it. So my question, what good free news
>> reader can I get that has one?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> JQ
>> Dancing on the edge
>
>
> Thanks all, I finally see what I was not doing and got the message
> filter to work. I neede the filter to be directed to the this news
> group not the newsgroup server. It does as Bev said, it marks the
> unwanted posters or posts as read. Not the best but it helps.

Yes, now instead of marking the post as read, if you do the
same, but going through Tools>Message Filters>(pop-up window)New>
(pop-up window)Filter Rules you can set the message to disappear
(be deleted) before it ever gets to your reader. As I said I
haven't seen a single post from you-know-who for several days
now, but continue to see those who continue to poke and who
quote him. You can also edit your existing message filter this way.

>
> VtSkier, my son has been in the hospital since Monday night. His right
> lung collapsed for no apparent reason, the doctors seem to think it was
> some sort of genetic defect. They have him on a small machine to remove
> the air around his lung. Ths morning they are going to give him
> another Xray then Cat Scan to check the condition of his lung and the
> sack around the lung. If all is well the will remove the vacuum
> machine. Then take another Xray if the lung is holding up they will
> remove the tube and wait another 4 hours take another Xray. If after
> this Xray everything looks good they will discharge him. Otherwise, the
> they will replace the tube and start the process all over again.
>
> I'm on my way to see him at the hospital now, hopefully all will be good.
>
> JQ
> Dancing on the edge
>

Sending you my prayers and Reiki.

The Real Bev

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Dec 16, 2009, 7:03:33 PM12/16/09
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JQ wrote:

> Then take another Xray if the lung is holding up they will
> remove the tube and wait another 4 hours take another Xray. If after
> this Xray everything looks good they will discharge him. Otherwise, the
> they will replace the tube and start the process all over again.
>
> I'm on my way to see him at the hospital now, hopefully all will be good.

According to House MD, stuff like that is repairable. Good that he's actually
in a place where it CAN BE repaired.

--
Cheers,
Bev
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I never understood why anyone would go to the trouble to write a novel
when you can just go out and buy one for a few bucks." -- lpogoda

Walt

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Dec 17, 2009, 11:09:08 AM12/17/09
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VtSkier wrote:
> As I said I
> haven't seen a single post from you-know-who for several days
> now,

It's been about a decade for me.

>but continue to see those who continue to poke and who
> quote him.

I see a few of those, but not very many. It's a sure one-way ticket to
Killfilesville.


ob-ski: the season's in full swing. Heading up to Boyne Highlands
tonight to catch their 6-for-1 lift ticket deal tomorrow. Should be
another good weekend.

//Walt

JQ

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Dec 17, 2009, 4:35:03 PM12/17/09
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On 12/16/2009 7:03 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> JQ wrote:
>
>> Then take another Xray if the lung is holding up they will remove the
>> tube and wait another 4 hours take another Xray. If after this Xray
>> everything looks good they will discharge him. Otherwise, the
>> they will replace the tube and start the process all over again.
>>
>> I'm on my way to see him at the hospital now, hopefully all will be good.
>
> According to House MD, stuff like that is repairable. Good that he's
> actually in a place where it CAN BE repaired.
>
My son was discharged today, he was very happy to be home. The cat scan
showed some growths on top of each lung which they are saying was the
cause of his collapsed lung. He will need to get some more Xrays in 1
to 2 days then again in about 2 weeks to make sure the lung is still
holding up. If he has another episode they will go in to remove these
growths. Hopefully he will never have another one but there is a 30%
chance of another episode within one year.

The Real Bev

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Dec 17, 2009, 6:20:45 PM12/17/09
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JQ wrote:

I hate the 'let's watch it for a while and see what happens' solution to
problems, although it's frequently the best and safest thing. Given the
apparent ease with which lung tissue can be snipped out, barring a good reason
not to I think I'd say just snip the things out now. It's not like they
haven't already put a hole in the lung. Oh, wait, I guess they plugged that up,
right?

Never mind...

I've forgotten -- how old is he?

--
Cheers, Bev
===============================================
Jesus saves. Buddha makes incremental backups.

JQ

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Dec 20, 2009, 1:56:10 PM12/20/09
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Well, my 17 year old son is back in the hospital again. He was not a
happy camper and was mad at the world and life. They had to put another
chest tube in they wanted to do it with him put under but couldn't
because he ate lunch before going in.
He was flipping out big time about the anticipated pain. They did give
him some pain killers before the procedures but you couldn't tell by the
way he was acting. The reason they couldn't wait the collapsing lung
was putting pressure on the heart
which made it life threatening. This time they will remove the
blebs/cysts that are on top of both lungs, from what I was told and
through my research this happens a lot to young tall thin boys of which
my son is. I'm glad it didn't happen to me when
I was young. He should be having surgery on Tuesday hopefully this will
be the end of it as my reading says there is only a 2% chance of a
recurrence after the procedure of removing the blebs.

I got to go dig myself out of the snow, they did not plow in my area
last night and as of this moment either. I got stuck getting into my
development then got stuck again right in front of my house. The snow
in the yard was over my knees about 28" deep!

Everyone have a great day skiing and do a turn or two for my son and me!

Dave Cartman

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Dec 20, 2009, 2:28:10 PM12/20/09
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In article <hgls0e$4d4$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
JQ <j...@wadenet.com> wrote:

> Well, my 17 year old son is back in the hospital again. He was not a
> happy camper and was mad at the world and life. They had to put another
> chest tube in they wanted to do it with him put under but couldn't
> because he ate lunch before going in.
> He was flipping out big time about the anticipated pain. They did give
> him some pain killers before the procedures but you couldn't tell by the
> way he was acting. The reason they couldn't wait the collapsing lung
> was putting pressure on the heart
> which made it life threatening. This time they will remove the
> blebs/cysts that are on top of both lungs, from what I was told and
> through my research this happens a lot to young tall thin boys of which
> my son is. I'm glad it didn't happen to me when
> I was young. He should be having surgery on Tuesday hopefully this will
> be the end of it as my reading says there is only a 2% chance of a
> recurrence after the procedure of removing the blebs.

Hi JQ,

It sounds like you've learned as much as anyone knows about spontaneous
pneumothorax. I've had friends who have had this problem, and done
well, and others who have gotten chest tubes for traumatic pneumothorax
too. They all agree that getting a chest tube wide awake hurts likes a
m*****rf***ker :) Having a rubber tube coming out of your chest and
attached to a bubbling box and having to lay there for days is enough to
drive any normal active 17 year old nuts.

I'm tall too, I always expected it to happen to me too, but I was lucky
that it was never a problem.... yet :)

VtSkier

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Dec 20, 2009, 3:50:10 PM12/20/09
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Prayers and Reiki from here.
No complications, great recovery.

The Real Bev

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Dec 20, 2009, 7:50:56 PM12/20/09
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JQ wrote:

> On 12/17/2009 6:20 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>
>> I've forgotten -- how old is he?
>>
> Well, my 17 year old son is back in the hospital again. He was not a happy
> camper and was mad at the world and life. They had to put another chest
> tube in they wanted to do it with him put under but couldn't because he ate
> lunch before going in.

Feh. I'd be pissed too.

> He was flipping out big time about the anticipated pain. They did give him
> some pain killers before the procedures but you couldn't tell by the way he
> was acting.

In my experience, pain killers that don't actually knock you out are worthless.

> The reason they couldn't wait the collapsing lung was putting pressure on
> the heart which made it life threatening. This time they will remove the
> blebs/cysts that are on top of both lungs, from what I was told and through
> my research this happens a lot to young tall thin boys of which my son is.
>

I'm glad to hear that thinness has a downside -- this is the first one I've
heard of.

> I'm glad it didn't happen to me when I was young. He should be having
> surgery on Tuesday hopefully this will be the end of it as my reading says
> there is only a 2% chance of a recurrence after the procedure of removing
> the blebs.

I don't suppose they had the decency to explain where the blebs came from...

> I got to go dig myself out of the snow, they did not plow in my area last
> night and as of this moment either. I got stuck getting into my development
> then got stuck again right in front of my house. The snow in the yard was
> over my knees about 28" deep!

Gee, I pity you. It's nice and sunny here and I won't see snow until the
holiday season ends.

> Everyone have a great day skiing and do a turn or two for my son and me!

Will there be much recovery time until he's back on skis?

--
Cheers, Bev
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Self Test for Paranoia: You know you have it when you can't
think of anything that's your own fault.

JQ

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:02:14 AM12/22/09
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Senzo's surgery is scheduled for Tuesday afternoon. The plan is to
operate on both lungs to remove the Blebs.
The blebs are genetic defects, it is not really known what causes them
or even why some people have them all
their lives with no complications.
Senzo has been in much better mood and accepting the situation like he
has a choice...

I need to ask the doctor how long it will be before he can go back to
all activities including skiing and boarding.
I will definitely ask tomorrow and thanks for the well wishes.

JQ

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Dec 26, 2009, 12:16:23 AM12/26/09
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I hope everyone is having a most wonderful holiday season filled with
much love, togetherness and joy.
Latest update on Senzo, he is still in the hospital but has been
downgraded from Pediatric ICU to just Pediatric.
He still has the chest tubes in for drainage but not suction. If all
goes well with the Xrays tomorrow they will
remove the tubes. As long as he continues to improve he may be home by
Monday and the doctor says he can
be on the slopes in a month after discharge providing that his lungs
continues to improve.

Senzo had a great Christmas even though he may not think so. The nurses
in the Pediatric floor are great they
go out of their way to make the stay ther as pleasant as possible. They
had Santa come in to greet all the children
in there and gave out some gifts. A local high school and church gave
out some gifts to all the kids and the nicest
gifts came from a family that was in the hospital back in 2002 that had
a death of a new birth during Christmas.
These people were so pleased with the treatment that they received
during their stay decided to give out some
very nice gifts the all the children that were to spend Christmas in
this hospital every year as a way to say thank you.

It is amazing what they get at no extra cost to the pediatric patients,
all rooms have free cable TV, internet connection
through the HDTV, free wireless internet and Xbox 360, free meals 3
times a day for the patient and one parent, (the
food isn't bad either). Things have changed from the days of yesteryear.

I hope you all are able to get out to the slopes to dance in harmony
with or at least enjoy the mountain.

JQ
Dancing on the edge

PS
I finally think I got the kill file and delete old message all worked
out. Thanks to all that helped me to figure it out.


A mighty Hungarian warrior

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Dec 26, 2009, 4:04:21 AM12/26/09
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On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 00:16:23 -0500, JQ <j...@wadenet.com> wrote this
crap:


>Senzo had a great Christmas even though he may not think so. The nurses
>in the Pediatric floor are great they
>go out of their way to make the stay ther as pleasant as possible. They
>had Santa come in to greet all the children
>in there and gave out some gifts. A local high school and church gave
>out some gifts to all the kids and the nicest
>gifts came from a family that was in the hospital back in 2002 that had
>a death of a new birth during Christmas.
>These people were so pleased with the treatment that they received
>during their stay decided to give out some
>very nice gifts the all the children that were to spend Christmas in
>this hospital every year as a way to say thank you.
>
>It is amazing what they get at no extra cost to the pediatric patients,
>all rooms have free cable TV, internet connection
>through the HDTV, free wireless internet and Xbox 360, free meals 3
>times a day for the patient and one parent, (the
>food isn't bad either). Things have changed from the days of yesteryear.

Excellent story, my friend. I'm glad you had a great Christmas.

Santa was good to me, also. Among the treasure I received was a new
GPS. Now I can travel to far away places and meet interesting natives
and kill them.


Merry Christmas and vote for Palin-Ahhnold in 2012.

Hor...@Horvath.net

A mighty Hungarian warrior
The blood of Attila runs through me

The Real Bev

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Dec 26, 2009, 7:54:30 PM12/26/09
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JQ wrote:

> It is amazing what they get at no extra cost to the pediatric patients, all
> rooms have free cable TV, internet connection through the HDTV, free
> wireless internet and Xbox 360, free meals 3 times a day for the patient and
> one parent, (the food isn't bad either). Things have changed from the days
> of yesteryear.

Has he decided that the advantages outweigh the humiliation of, at 17, being
regarded as a pediatric patient?

Good that it's going so well.

--
Cheers, Bev
=====================================================
"It's too bad stupidity isn't painful." - A. S. LaVey

JQ

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Dec 26, 2009, 11:32:50 PM12/26/09
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On 12/26/2009 7:54 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>
> Has he decided that the advantages outweigh the humiliation of, at 17,
> being
> regarded as a pediatric patient?
>
> Good that it's going so well.
>
Luckily that hasn't been an issue, none of his friends has said anything
about it as
most of them are his age.
He got only one tube removed today and the lung that had the initial
problems was still
left attached and suction was reapplied. They will take another Xray in
the morning and
if it is at a good level they will remove the suction and wait 8 hours
or so to see if it is
still holding up, if so they will remove the tube and may discharge him
then or wait another
few hours. So we are crossing out fingers.

The Real Bev

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Dec 26, 2009, 11:54:48 PM12/26/09
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JQ wrote:

Knock wood too. Couldn't hurt!

I guess there have been worse Christmases.

--
Cheers, Bev
--------------------------------
Ride faster, I hear banjo music!

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