Iceberg Dead Ahead!
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick
liberties group in San Francisco that is pursuing a similar lawsuit against
the government, called Holder's decision "incredibly disappointing."
"The Obama administration has essentially adopted the position of the Bush
administration in these cases, even though candidate Obama was incredibly
critical of both the warrantless wiretapping program and the Bush
administration's abuse of the state secrets privilege," said Bankston.
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Dennis (Icarus)
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> Kevin Bankston, a lawyer for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a civil
> liberties group in San Francisco that is pursuing a similar lawsuit
> against the government, called Holder's decision "incredibly
> disappointing."
>
> "The Obama administration has essentially adopted the position of the Bush
> administration in these cases, even though candidate Obama was incredibly
> critical of both the warrantless wiretapping program and the Bush
> administration's abuse of the state secrets privilege," said Bankston.
>
> http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j9n5u8khGqNQT6DTlcKGV6ouKqfQD9BLULIG2
>
Change I can believe in
Dennis
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick
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I see our other savior Hillary just fucked up the entire Mideast Peace
Process.
Scott
> I see our other savior Hillary just fucked up the entire Mideast Peace
> Process.
She has the Palestinians, the Israeli's and the Pakistani's all pissed off.
SoWhat
Not defending her but...
The Palestinians and Israelis are always pissed off, nothing new here.
The Pakistanis are merely suspicious and they were always suspicious
of the US government, and rightfully so. If the US had taken strong
decisive action in Afghanistan against the Taliban and Al Qaeda from
the beginning instead of wasting resources in Iraq we'd have bin
Laden's head on a pike by now.
She's abrasive, overconfident and inept, but we knew that. She has
only added more hot air to global warming.
Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick
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I agree with you completely.
Especially about the abrasive, overconfident and inept part.
But we were supposed to get all this change.
Hillary Clinton has less diplomatic experience than Sarah Palin.
How do you think the liberal media would have reported this incident
during the Bush administration?
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Scott
> "SoWhat" <yea...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 13:53:38 -0800, "Scott" <nu...@bidneth.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
>>>message news:_8CdnY4ct9sYfXDX...@supernews.com...
>>>
>>>> I see our other savior Hillary just fucked up the entire Mideast Peace
>>>> Process.
>>>
>>>She has the Palestinians, the Israeli's and the Pakistani's all pissed
>>>off.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Not defending her but...
>>
>> The Palestinians and Israelis are always pissed off, nothing new here.
>> The Pakistanis are merely suspicious and they were always suspicious
>> of the US government, and rightfully so. If the US had taken strong
>> decisive action in Afghanistan against the Taliban and Al Qaeda from
>> the beginning instead of wasting resources in Iraq we'd have bin
>> Laden's head on a pike by now.
>>
>> She's abrasive, overconfident and inept, but we knew that. She has
>> only added more hot air to global warming.
>
>
>
> I agree with you completely.
>
> Especially about the abrasive, overconfident and inept part.
>
> But we were supposed to get all this change.
>
> Hillary Clinton has less diplomatic experience than Sarah Palin.
>
> How do you think the liberal media would have reported this incident
> during the Bush administration?
Pitch forks, torches, nooses and Dan Rather.
Dennis (Icarus)
> "Dennis (Icarus)" <nojun...@ever.invalid> wrote in message
> news:c22e6$4aed172a$cf62c293$17...@KNOLOGY.NET...
>>>
>>
>> Change I can believe in
>
>
> I see our other savior Hillary just fucked up the entire Mideast Peace
> Process.
>
>
>
We should give Clancy's plan a shot.
Dennis
Scott
> But we were supposed to get all this change.
>
> Hillary Clinton has less diplomatic experience than Sarah Palin.
>
> How do you think the liberal media would have reported this incident
> during the Bush administration?
Opinion in Brief
"Just one year ago, would you have believed that an unelected government
official, not even a Cabinet member confirmed by the Senate but simply one
of the many 'czars' appointed by the President, could arbitrarily cut the
pay of executives in private businesses by 50 percent or 90 percent? Did you
think that another 'czar' would be talking about restricting talk radio?
That there would be plans afloat to subsidize newspapers -- that is, to
create a situation where some newspapers' survival would depend on the
government liking what they publish? Did you imagine that anyone would even
be talking about having a panel of so-called 'experts' deciding who could
and could not get life-saving medical treatments? Scary as that is from a
medical standpoint, it is also chilling from the standpoint of freedom. If
you have a mother who needs a heart operation or a child with some dire
medical condition, how free would you feel to speak out against an
administration that has the power to make life and death decisions about
your loved ones? Does any of this sound like America? How about a federal
agency giving school children material to enlist them on the side of the
president? Merely being assigned to sing his praises in class is apparently
not enough. How much of America would be left if the federal government
continued on this path? ... How far the President will go depends of course
on how much resistance he meets. But the direction in which he is trying to
go tells us more than all his rhetoric or media spin. Barack Obama has not
only said that he is out to 'change the United States of America,' the
people he has been associated with for years have expressed in words and
deeds their hostility to the values, the principles and the people of this
country. ... Nothing so epitomizes President Obama's own contempt for
American values and traditions like trying to ram two bills through Congress
in his first year -- each bill more than a thousand pages long -- too fast
for either of them to be read, much less discussed. That he succeeded only
the first time says that some people are starting to wake up. Whether enough
people will wake up in time to keep America from being dismantled, piece by
piece, is another question -- and the biggest question for this
generation." -- economist Thomas Sowell
Scott
"Dennis (Icarus)" <nojun...@ever.invalid> wrote in message
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> Change I can believe in
>
> Dennis
Oh, there is going to be change all right;
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703399204574505423751140690.html#printMode
Scott
> Kevin Bankston, a lawyer for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a civil
> liberties group in San Francisco that is pursuing a similar lawsuit
> against the government, called Holder's decision "incredibly
> disappointing."
>
> "The Obama administration has essentially adopted the position of the Bush
> administration in these cases, even though candidate Obama was incredibly
> critical of both the warrantless wiretapping program and the Bush
> administration's abuse of the state secrets privilege," said Bankston.
>
> http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j9n5u8khGqNQT6DTlcKGV6ouKqfQD9BLULIG2
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/us/politics/03year.html?pagewanted=print