Thinking of Cozumel
Joe English
scuba, not a problem - she likes to shop. I have my preferences on dive
ops, would you guys go this quick after the devastating hurricane? I
really don't even give a damn about the viz - I was thinking more of
pumping some $$ (very little in the big scheme of things) into the local
economy
Ron Lee
problematic. Here is one reference.
http://www.cometocozumel.com/english/wilma/default.asp
Ron Lee
Ron Lee
Joe English
since they changed or are changing, that won't be in my plans. I am
looking at some of the places on the square
Greg Mossman
news:64288$436ce15e$ce504822$12...@allthenewsgroups.com...
I've heard that when I dove Aldora, Dillehay was absent. Perhaps things are
better now.
But they still have one black mark in my book:
"That means that everyone in the group must come up together, hopefully lead
by a divemaster that has deployed an inflatable marker."
http://www.aldora.com/driftdivingcozumel.htm
Plenty of dive ops in Cozumel will let you ascend on your own or have some
other procedure in place so that your dives aren't limited by the lowest
common denominator.
Lembo
I never dove with Aldora but I can't imagine they do what their web page
says they do. First of all, who dives tables on Cozumel ??
I believe with most dive ops...guide/DM deploys a marker, heavy
breathers ascend, you ascend with your buddy at 500-700 or so.
Reef Fish
Greg Mossman wrote:
> "Joe English" <joeen...@isperhome.com> wrote in message
> news:64288$436ce15e$ce504822$12...@allthenewsgroups.com...
> > Ron Lee wrote:
> >> Joe, also look at Dave's opinions/observations on the Wilma link at
> >> www.aldora.com
> >>
> >> Ron Lee
> > Mossman tells me Aldora sucks.
True. But that was when Greg was a Clueless Newbie in Coz, as well as
in diving. And for the REASONS Greg gave for his slam of Aldora, I
awarded
him the title of "Anti-Aldora IDIOT", as Ron Lee had the title "Aldora
IDIOT"
for years already.
> I've heard that when I dove Aldora, Dillehay was absent. Perhaps things are
> better now.
The presence or absence of Dillehay was entirely irrelevant to the
issue raised.
> But they still have one black mark in my book:
>
> "That means that everyone in the group must come up together, hopefully lead
> by a divemaster that has deployed an inflatable marker."
That's in part because MOST of the Aldora fans were Aldora IDIOTS, and
they
suck -- literally, as in "air sucking pigs" of which Ron Lee is the
champion,
both as an air sucking pig AND an Aldora IDIOT. That's why Aldora give
them
the 120 steel tanks so that some of them can last almost as long with
that
tank of air than I last with an AL80, diving to 200 fsw.
The one-up all-up policy is Dellehay's self-protection for someone like
ME
diving with their 120 steel and lasts more than 2 hours in the dive
when the
Aldora IDIOTs are out of air in 30 minutes.
> http://www.aldora.com/driftdivingcozumel.htm
Aldora has plenty other nonsense policies catered to Aldora IDIOTS.
> Plenty of dive ops in Cozumel will let you ascend on your own or have some
> other procedure in place so that your dives aren't limited by the lowest
> common denominator.
If you think that's bad, just think about having a dive computer for
your own
dive, and are then told that the DM's dive computer dictates the limits
in all
dives. That's not only stooooopid (according to any expert on using
dive
computers that Rule Number 1 is that you should NOT use someone else's
computer/profile for your own dive), that's outright UNSAFE.
But Aldora IDIOTS, of whom Ron Lee has appointed himself to be the
spokesman, the brag has always been "long how much longer I can now
dive on one tank!" or some other equally ridiculous excuses.
-- Bob.
chilly
Ron Lee
>spokesman, the brag has always been "long how much longer I can now
>dive on one tank!" or some other equally ridiculous excuses.
>
>-- Bob.
Feel better now Bob Ling. I have a suggestion Bob Ling. Go through
all your postings and determine how many times you use the word
"idiot" or "idiots" and based upon total number of posts (which you
seem to use as a measure of your self-esteem), calculate your
idiot/message ratio.
Ron Lee
Greg Mossman
news:Z_qdnUsKXMb...@rogers.com...
> I never dove with Aldora but I can't imagine they do what their web page
> says they do. First of all, who dives tables on Cozumel ??
> I believe with most dive ops...guide/DM deploys a marker, heavy breathers
> ascend, you ascend with your buddy at 500-700 or so.
Nope. Aldora ascends as a group. And they were, at least when I dove them,
very proficient at the "Mexican" drift dive (a term I recently heard on a
dive boat in Kauai). On one dive, the Aldora DM actually wanted the entire
group to hold hands and fin together against a strong current. Google
"aldora sucks" for more information.
bob crownfield
...and thus you win "The Laugh of the Day Award" !!
>
> Ron Lee
Al
My wife & I were in Cozumel during Wilma at Scuba Club Cozumel. You couldn't
ask for a better bunch of people than the staff there! I think they will be
open around the 12th. This was our third trip. I know they already have
power back at the resort. check out their web site. Dives leading up to
Wilma were great - good DMs and good boat crews.
Town may be more problematic - some sections had heavy devastation, others
not too bad. I know some sections of the square were already re-opening on
Wednesday after the hurricane. Give SCC a call - ask for Sofia - I'm sure
they will give you the straight scoop.
Al
"Joe English" <joeen...@isperhome.com> wrote in message
news:36481$436c144e$ce504822$9...@allthenewsgroups.com...
Reef Fish
Ron Lee wrote:
> >But Aldora IDIOTS, of whom Ron Lee has appointed himself to be the
> >spokesman, the brag has always been "long how much longer I can now
> >dive on one tank!" or some other equally ridiculous excuses.
> >
> >-- Bob.
>
> all your postings and determine how many times you use the word
> "idiot" or "idiots" and based upon total number of posts (which you
> seem to use as a measure of your self-esteem), calculate your
> idiot/message ratio.
>
> Ron Lee
I did it in two parts, just for you IDIOT Ron Lee.
For the posts I replied to Ron Lee, the idiot/message ratio is at least
3.14159, because Ron Lee is such an IDIOT, proven over and over again.
For the OTHER posts of mine, while there are many IDIOTS in newsgroups,
they are negligible compared to the non-idiot posters. Therefore, the
idiot/message ratio (excluding Ron Lee) of my 100,000 posts is at most
0.005.
No context for Ron Lee to be the net IDIOT of all time.
See, for this post, your IDIOT ratio easily exceeded your average of
3.14159.
-- Bob.
BillD
http://www.reefclubcozumel.com in April and had a great time. Dove
with there on site OP which was fine. We got an awesome deal by buying
the vouchers described under the "specials" on this link.
http://reefclubresort.com/ This is a guys site to sell the
certificates not the official resort site.
Payed $1210 for both of us not PP in a junior suite that was huge
with own Hot Tub on our huge deck, plus got the VIP restaurants and
bars and discount on diving. This is all meals and drinks.
I managed to buy some of those vouchers myself but I had to buy 20 of
them to get them. He sells them for $225 which is definitly worth it
but I can sell some at $150 since I just want to get out from under a
few of them not make a business of it. My email is first...@cox.net
if you need more info.
Alan Street
Fish <Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
€ Ron Lee wrote:
€ > >But Aldora IDIOTS, of whom Ron Lee has appointed himself to be the
€ > >spokesman, the brag has always been "long how much longer I can now
€ > >dive on one tank!" or some other equally ridiculous excuses.
€ > >
€ > >-- Bob.
€ >
€ > I have a suggestion Bob Ling. Go through
€ > all your postings and determine how many times you use the word
€ > "idiot" or "idiots" and based upon total number of posts (which you
€ > seem to use as a measure of your self-esteem), calculate your
€ > idiot/message ratio.
€ >
€ > Ron Lee
€
€ I did it in two parts, just for you IDIOT Ron Lee.
€
€ For the posts I replied to Ron Lee, the idiot/message ratio is at least
€
€ 3.14159, because Ron Lee is such an IDIOT, proven over and over again.
€
Gee, Bob. Did you lie this much when you were a professor?
Reef Fish
See what I mean about Alan Street following me just to show he is my
stalker and worshipper? He was in rec.travel.air and
rec.travel.cruises
too, sticking his nose into the posts in which I kicked two IDIOTS in
those groups.
Alan Street has absolutely NO LIFE, and he is an IDIOT's IDIOT, which
is proven in the ng archives.
-- Bob.
Ron Lee
per post just magically equals the value of pi? I don't believe that
so go back and do it again. You will see in my post of an appropriate
subject that it is higher than three. Of course it is nothing to brag
about by well-adjusted, civil people.
Ron Lee
Alan Street
Reef Fish <Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
€ > €
€ >
€ > Gee, Bob. Did you lie this much when you were a professor?
€
€ See what I mean about Alan Street following me just to show he is my
€ stalker and worshipper? He was in rec.travel.air and
€ rec.travel.cruises
I have never, ever read rec.travel.cruises. I dispise cruise ships. But
obviously this "cross-posting" thing is a little hard for you to grasp,
isn't it?
As for following you, it's pretty much impossible to read any newsgroup
you frequent without stepping in one of your verbal cowpies. Every once
in a while I feel the urge to respond to one of your more outrageous
claims. That's not worship, it's ridicule.
I seem to remember another person in rec.scuba who had a problem
telling the difference between ridicule and worship. May we expect you
to follow his path to its logical conclusion?
€ too, sticking his nose into the posts in which I kicked two IDIOTS in
€ those groups.
€
The only people you kicked were in your deluded little mind. Tchiowa
kicked your ass all over the place and showed you up for the
lightweight, inexperienced and lying little leisure traveller you are.
People in rec.travel.air think you're just as much of a buffoon as do
the people in rec.scuba.*
€ Alan Street has absolutely NO LIFE, and he is an IDIOT's IDIOT, which
€ is proven in the ng archives.
€
Where would you be without your precious archives, Feesh? They're your
life and your alter-ego. Of course, everyone reading them except you
finds that they tell a tale of a sad, washed up little old man who can
only feel good when he insults everyone who dares challenge him.
Enjoy your cruise. Personally, I'd think spending all this time in an
internet lounge of a cruise ship would be a sign of mental illness. But
as you proudly claim, it's your life and you are the only person who
dictates how you spend your time (except, of course, for that little
monkey on your back).
As for me, I'm back on the road again this week and next (presenting a
paper, chairing a session at a conference and giving the grad students
I fund a hard time <g>). Lightweight travel by some standards, but I'll
still be spending some time in airport lounges. Who knows, I might even
use some of it to read a couple of Usenet newsgroups ;-)
€ -- Bob.
€
Reef Fish
Alan Street wrote:
> In article <1131304455.6...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
> Reef Fish <Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> € > €
> € >
> € > Gee, Bob. Did you lie this much when you were a professor?
> €
> € See what I mean about Alan Street following me just to show he is my
> € stalker and worshipper? He was in rec.travel.air and
> € rec.travel.cruises
>
> you frequent without stepping in one of your verbal cowpies. Every once
> in a while I feel the urge to respond to one of your more outrageous
> claims.
And ALL those times, Alan Street made the same mistake of siding with
the IDIOT who was WRONG.
> That's not worship, it's ridicule.
It's worship. See my preceding sentence.
> The only people you kicked were in your deluded little mind. Tchiowa
> kicked your ass all over the place and showed you up for the
> lightweight, inexperienced and lying little leisure traveller you are.
The Bangkok IDIOT made FIVE consecutive ERRORS in his last 5 posts.
He was kicked this morning before I read any of the rec.scuba IDIOTS.
> People in rec.travel.air think you're just as much of a buffoon as do
> the people in rec.scuba.*
Obviously you haven't read either group much. Granted there are more
IDIOTS re-surfacing in rec.scuba during this Reef Fish worshipping
Festival, the IDIOTS in air.travel have long been silenced except this
clueless newbie Tchiowa you side with.
Check out the long-time FORMER idiots in rec.travel.air: Vitaly
Shmatikov (changed his posting name now to VS), Paul Tauger (now
changed his name to PTravel), and the all time professional troll,
Michael Voight, of a thousand aliases, recently known as mrtravel.
They all learned their lesson and STOPPED being a pest on me.
Not so the IDIOTS in rec.scuba. That's how clueless you are!
>
> € Alan Street has absolutely NO LIFE, and he is an IDIOT's IDIOT, which
> € is proven in the ng archives.
> €
>
> Where would you be without your precious archives, Feesh?
I would have had it in my photographic memory. I also had them in my
own archived, known as the BHD, so show IDIOT the actual evidence.
Google just made it easy to catch LIARS like Lee Bell, Alan Street, Ron
Lee, and the rest of the newsgroup IDIOTS when they resort to LIES.
> As for me, I'm back on the road again this week and next (presenting a
> paper, chairing a session at a conference and giving the grad students
> I fund a hard time <g>).
Nepotism? Does anyone attend your session? What an IDIOT you are.
I have been the Program Chairman of International and National
Meetings,
and the last ASA Annual Meeting I went to in San Francisco, in 2003,
FOUR of my former doctoral students were presenting papers there.
If you are a NOBODY in recreational newsgroups compared to my
experience,
you are INVISIBLE and completely negligible in academia.
Get a LIFE, Alan Street, and buy some Clue on REALITY.
In the Google Web section, I found this Alan Street,
*> Alan Street got involved in Scouting years ago, to fit in. Now, the
*> 17-year-old with Down Syndrome
That sound like a perfect fit of you, Alan! LOL
Certainly sounded more intelligent than that Alan G. Street in the same
Google web hits. That Alan G. Street had and did absolutely NOTHING of
any significance to anyone.
-- Bob.
Dillon Pyron
>We stayed at
>http://www.ccccc.com in April and had a great time. Dove
>with there on site OP which was fine. We got an awesome deal by buying
Sand Dollar is okay, at best. Definitely a lowest common denominator
operator. I got bitched at on both of my dives with them in June (off
the Elation, took the cruise line default). Stayed down until the DM
was out of air, didn't spend much time with my buddy (who turned out
to be pretty good on his air).
>the vouchers described under the "specials" on this link.
>http://xxxx.com/ This is a guys site to sell the
>certificates not the official resort site.
>Payed $1210 for both of us not PP in a junior suite that was huge
>with own Hot Tub on our huge deck, plus got the VIP restaurants and
>bars and discount on diving. This is all meals and drinks.
This smells like, can we all say it at once? SPAM
>
>I managed to buy some of those vouchers myself but I had to buy 20 of
>them to get them. He sells them for $225 which is definitly worth it
>but I can sell some at $150 since I just want to get out from under a
>few of them not make a business of it. My email is first...@spam.net
>if you need more info.
>
Spam-ola!!!!
>
>On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 20:09:54 -0600, Joe English
><joeen...@isperhome.com> wrote:
>
>>My wife and I are contemplating a dive trip to Cozumel. She doesn't
>>scuba, not a problem - she likes to shop. I have my preferences on dive
>>ops, would you guys go this quick after the devastating hurricane? I
>>really don't even give a damn about the viz - I was thinking more of
>>pumping some $$ (very little in the big scheme of things) into the local
>>economy
I'd go again at Thanksgiving, except I think the island needs a little
more recoup time. But I think they need the money more.
I wonder if they're discounting the Viagra in the big farmacia on Ave
R Melgar.
--
dillon
Anyone who says grown men don't cry has never
taken a differential equations final.
YellowRoseCozumel via ScubaMonster.com
to come- if you can get a flight. Within the next two weeks, those hotels
that have not yet opened downtown, will be open. Virtually all the hotels on
the water and especially south of town experienced serious damage including
loss of piers making it impossible to load/unload. Aldora Pier downtown is
functional although damaged. It is within walking distance to many downtown
hotels. Right now, for your wife, shopping will be limited. The cruise
ships are due to begin docking in Cozumel Nov 14; however, it is unrealistic
to expect all the waterfront shops to be open.
Re: diving in Cozumel and some comments that were made in other posts. For
the most part, you can expect diving on the tables although most divers
*wear* computers. When your dive master says "ok, this dive we're going to
80 ft for 30 min," he/she is essentially diving the tables. It is a typical
dive here- wham, bam, thank you ma'am. Most, but not all, operators conduct
the dives this way- it is mostly a function of economics. Although uncommon,
there are operators that accommodate heavy breathers or handle them in such a
way that these divers do not dictate the length or profile of the dive.
Finally, when surfacing or separating from a group, please keep in mind that
safety is the most important aspect that should not be taken for granted.
Safe diving to you and best regards!
Regarding
--
Dive Cozumel / Yellow Rose
US/Canada Toll Free: 866.319.2649
A.R. Salas #85- Downtown Cozumel
Message posted via ScubaMonster.com
http://www.scubamonster.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/scuba-locations/200511/1
BillD
I was dam grateful that someone like me pointed me to the site where I
got my coupon for my April trip. It saved me a bunch. Notice I also
gave the other guys site so someone could get it there if they felt
like it. What spammer points people to anywhere but their stuff. All
I'm trying to do is help someone else here save a few bucks. I can
always sell mine to the other guys site. You have no knowledge or
right to accuse me of being a spammer.
BillD
first day of seeing who was good on air they split my 4 and 2 others
that were good on air into one group so we could get more bottom time.
I was impressed with this.
chilly
Here's a cool site I ran across today. It seems to have it all. Before,
during and after including today.
st...@adkhomes.com
Joe,
I love Cozumel and have spent many vacations diving there. Plaza Glorius is
no longer a hotel, but now a condo. I wouldn't stay there anyway.
If you want to see what's available, give Al at Bay Adventures a call. They
are located in Florida and have many properties. Their website is
www.bayadventures.com
One week we spent there, we rented a home close to the supermarket. It is
called Casa Carlita. http://www.cozumel-rental.com/
Not on the water, but it is on a side street. I haven't been there for
several years, but when we were there maid service was included in the very
reasonable rent. Unless you stay in the Day's Inn, this will be a very
inexpensive home to rent.
I'd recommend that you get a rental car, we always rent the Jeep from Avis.
Diving, I recommend Dive with Martin.
All diving in Cozumel is drift diving so you don't even have to bone up on
your navigation! The captain will follow your bubbles.
I've been diving for over 40 years and this is on my short list of places to
go to.
Hope you have a great vacation!
One other suggestion. Take your wife to the square in the center of town and
feed the Mariachies mucho pasos and they will play for you all night! The
food is great, the people are great, the diving is great.
Joe English <joeen...@isperhome.com> wrote:
>My wife and I are contemplating a dive trip to Cozumel. She doesn't cscuba,
not a problem - she likes to shop. I have my preferences on dive 8ops, would
you guys go this quick after the devastating hurricane? I .really don't even
give a damn about the viz - I was thinking more of 2pumping some $$ (very
little in the big scheme of things) into the local 6economy
Dillon Pyron
>
>Joe,
>
>I love Cozumel and have spent many vacations diving there. Plaza Glorius is
>no longer a hotel, but now a condo. I wouldn't stay there anyway.
>
>If you want to see what's available, give Al at Bay Adventures a call. They
>are located in Florida and have many properties. Their website is
>www.bayadventures.com
>
>One week we spent there, we rented a home close to the supermarket. It is
>called Casa Carlita. http://www.cozumel-rental.com/
>
>Not on the water, but it is on a side street. I haven't been there for
>several years, but when we were there maid service was included in the very
>reasonable rent. Unless you stay in the Day's Inn, this will be a very
>inexpensive home to rent.
>
>I'd recommend that you get a rental car, we always rent the Jeep from Avis.
>Diving, I recommend Dive with Martin.
>
>All diving in Cozumel is drift diving so you don't even have to bone up on
>your navigation! The captain will follow your bubbles.
You haven't done any beach diving, then. It kind of helps to know
where you are unless you plan to take the taxi to the dive site or
take a taxi back to the hotel.
>
>I've been diving for over 40 years and this is on my short list of places to
>go to.
>
>Hope you have a great vacation!
>
>One other suggestion. Take your wife to the square in the center of town and
>feed the Mariachies mucho pasos and they will play for you all night! The
>food is great, the people are great, the diving is great.
You been going for 40 years and still don't know any Spanish? It's a
peso, for starters.
>
>
>
>Joe English <joeen...@isperhome.com> wrote:
>>My wife and I are contemplating a dive trip to Cozumel. She doesn't cscuba,
>not a problem - she likes to shop. I have my preferences on dive 8ops, would
>you guys go this quick after the devastating hurricane? I .really don't even
>give a damn about the viz - I was thinking more of 2pumping some $$ (very
>little in the big scheme of things) into the local 6economy
>
>
--
dillon
I didn't climb to the top of the
food chain to become a vegetartian.
st...@adkhomes.com
Stan
Dillon Pyron <dmpyron...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>Thus spake st...@adkhomes.com :
Dillon Pyron
>Hey, so I hit the wrong key. I can dive, but can't type too well.
I always like to say "just washed my hands and I can't do a thing with
them".
those of us from pre-conditior days remember this phrase.
>
>Stan
>
>Dillon Pyron <dmpyron...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>Thus spake st...@adkhomes.com :
BillD
and VIP wrist band by buying $225 vouchers here
http://reefclubresort.com/specials.htm which also has all the inof on
the resort.
He is still selling them at that price. I figured we'e go back a lot
so I bought 20 of them from the resort which was the smallest amount
they would sell. I want to get rid of a few for $150. If you feel this
is just a sales pitch just buy them from the other guy but using the
vouchers is the way to go. Our total cost for 2 people was $1210 for
the huge room with L deck with a hot tub, VIP restaurants and bars and
beach and all food and drink included. The VIP part (it makes you a
time share owner for a week is the basic deal) gets you a discount at
the Dive Op on site and guarantees you a spot on the boats.
At the airport when we arrived we cut a deal with one of the timeshare
sales guys. They covered our cab to and from the airport, cab back and
for to the ferry, the ferry to the mainland where we had to spend 90
touring timeshare and eating breafast (included) at it, they then paid
for the rental car and admission to the Tuluum ruins ( worth seeing)
Hope this helps.
Dillon Pyron
>We went to the Reef Club Resort and loved it. We got a junior suite
>and VIP wrist band by buying $225 vouchers here
>http://reefclubresort.com/specials.htm which also has all the inof on
>the resort.
Is Reef Club open yet? I know Iberostar still has problems.
>He is still selling them at that price. I figured we'e go back a lot
>so I bought 20 of them from the resort which was the smallest amount
>they would sell. I want to get rid of a few for $150. If you feel this
>is just a sales pitch just buy them from the other guy but using the
>vouchers is the way to go. Our total cost for 2 people was $1210 for
>the huge room with L deck with a hot tub, VIP restaurants and bars and
>beach and all food and drink included. The VIP part (it makes you a
>time share owner for a week is the basic deal) gets you a discount at
>the Dive Op on site and guarantees you a spot on the boats.
>
>At the airport when we arrived we cut a deal with one of the timeshare
>sales guys. They covered our cab to and from the airport, cab back and
>for to the ferry, the ferry to the mainland where we had to spend 90
>touring timeshare and eating breafast (included) at it, they then paid
>for the rental car and admission to the Tuluum ruins ( worth seeing)
90 minutes of my time is worth more than that, especially on vacation.
BillD
had had issues too.
Dillon Pyron
>They were scheduled to open in Dec and now it is Mar 31 so they must
>had had issues too.
I took a TA tour of the place in December of 2004. They were very
proud of their 600 meter white sand beach. And the grounds were
nothing less than spectacular. We didn't see any of the time shares,
but the hotel rooms were very nice. All in all a pretty good place,
assuming you want an AI.
>
>On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:19:00 -0500, Dillon Pyron
><dmpyron...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>Thus spake BillD <bi...@myrealbox.com> :
>>
>>>We went to the Reef Club Resort and loved it. We got a junior suite
>>>and VIP wrist band by buying $225 vouchers here
>>>http://reefclubresort.com/specials.htm which also has all the inof on
>>>the resort.
>>
>>Is Reef Club open yet? I know Iberostar still has problems.