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seanmart...@gmail.com

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Mar 26, 2009, 12:39:17 PM3/26/09
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Trip report : Varadero Beach Cuba

Resort Sandals Royal Hicacos Resort & Spa

March 13th to the 20th

We were supposed to go to DR but our trip got cancelled so we ended up
going to Cuba, I was recovering from gallbladder surgery so I only
snuck in one dive but it was pretty decent.

The week before the beach was too windy to swim on and there were man
o wars all over the beach. While we were there is was pretty as a post
card the whole week and I didn't see a single jelly or man o war.

When we got to the resort we found out they had free included boat
dives so near the end of the week I dried out and signed up. The
diving was through the Barracuda Diving Center which has a good
reputation. They had wreck dives on a russian patrol boat, reef
dives, and for extra payment other dives such as the wreck of the
Neptuno. They were doing a reef dive the day I went but I wouldn't be
able to tell you the name.The boat went out twice a day, Once for
newbies going to 5 meters and one in the afternoon for dives to 20
meters.
The boat was in need of some engine care and smoked a bit but the
people were friendly and the reef was only 20 minutes away. Visibility
was only ok, 20-30 feet or so but the water was very warm. I only had
a 2 mm shorty on and I don't think I needed that. Much better than the
North Atlantic around Newfoundland. The cuban tourists and guides were
in full exposure suits. The equipment was basic but in good repair.
We descended along the anchor line to around 60 feet and the DM led us
around the reef for 40 minutes. The DM was well informed and spoke
good english, although the guy doing the bookings was a bit
shakier.

There was lots of baracuda, other typical reef fish (clown and
butterfly), some really nice corals especially the brain variety.
There were weird clawless lobsters too. The highlight was a lionfish I
snagged a picture of:
http://picasaweb.google.com/SeanMartinFarrell/ScubaInCuba#5316154818722359810

Some of the other divers from Canada, obviously no Americans
onboard ... I don't think, had done some of the wreck dives but they
were used to the St. Lawrence river so they were more impressed with
the reef.

I'd definitely recommend the Sandals as a resort if you're interested
in going to Cuba, and the diving was good but not great. I enjoyed
Mexico or Australia much better. If I'm ever there again I'll be going
out every day though.


Dan Bracuk

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Mar 26, 2009, 5:27:52 PM3/26/09
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seanmart...@gmail.com pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
:There was lots of baracuda, other typical reef fish (clown and

:butterfly), some really nice corals especially the brain variety.
:There were weird clawless lobsters too. The highlight was a lionfish I
:snagged a picture of:

You saw clown fish in Cuba? You sure about that?

On a more positive note, thanks for the report. Sounds like you had
fun.

Dan Bracuk
Never use a big word when a diminutive one will do.

seanmart...@gmail.com

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Mar 27, 2009, 10:13:56 AM3/27/09
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On Mar 26, 7:27 pm, Dan Bracuk <bra...@pathcom.com> wrote:
> seanmartinfarr...@gmail.com pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:

> :There was lots of baracuda, other typical reef fish (clown and
> :butterfly), some really nice corals especially the brain variety.
> :There were weird clawless lobsters too. The highlight was a lionfish I
> :snagged a picture of:
>
> You saw clown fish in Cuba?  You sure about that?

No I'm not 8-) I take that one back. I saw various tropical fish that
are indigenous to cuban waters.... I know I saw a mess of baracuda
and butterfly fish.

Greg Mossman

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Mar 27, 2009, 11:32:15 AM3/27/09
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On Mar 27, 7:13 am, seanmartinfarr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 26, 7:27 pm, Dan Bracuk <bra...@pathcom.com> wrote:
>
> > seanmartinfarr...@gmail.com pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
> > :There was lots of baracuda, other typical reef fish (clown and
> > :butterfly), some really nice corals especially the brain variety.
> > :There were weird clawless lobsters too. The highlight was a lionfish I
> > :snagged a picture of:
>
> > You saw clown fish in Cuba?  You sure about that?
>
> No I'm not 8-) I take that one back.  I saw various tropical fish that
> are indigenous to cuban waters....  I know I saw a mess of baracuda
> and butterfly fish.

Now it's my turn. Are you sure you saw fish that are indigenous to
Cuban waters? Being only 90 miles from the Florida Keys, that
surprises me.

ben bradlee

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Mar 27, 2009, 4:55:40 PM3/27/09
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<seanmart...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Trip report : Varadero Beach Cuba
>
> Resort Sandals Royal Hicacos Resort & Spa
>
> March 13th to the 20th
>


Thanks for the report. Some day...


seanmart...@gmail.com

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Mar 30, 2009, 8:15:49 AM3/30/09
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Ok fine, I saw fish that were swimming, at the time, in Cuban waters.

Greg Mossman

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Mar 30, 2009, 10:09:18 AM3/30/09
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Don't worry, no one will dispute your lionfish. At least you got a
pic to prove that!

I recall when diving out of Havana Bay that we were required to bring
our passports with us to the dive boat to prove to the authorities
that we weren't all albino Cubans intent on making an escape run to
the mainland. Do they take the same precautions out of Varadero?

dechucka

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==================================================

They were definitely resident fish as American fish aren't allowed to travel
to Cuban waters- Anyhow the lionfish you photographed is not indigenous to
Cuba or even that side of the Americas it is a Pacific fish that was either
released or escaped on that side and as I understand is a great ecological
pest, my identification may be wrong but that is what I call them when
diving the GBR

dechucka

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To get political but on topic did I read somewhere that travel restrictions
for US citizens are going to be lifted?
>
>

ben bradlee

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"dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I don't know. Biden just took a step backward on the administration's
stance on Cuba.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/cuba/sfl-flabidencuba0329sbmar29,0,7022957.story

Of course Biden has been on both sides of every issue since he entered
politics. He's made it through all these years pandering to the masses.


Dan Bracuk

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"dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
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:
:They were definitely resident fish as American fish aren't allowed to travel
:to Cuban waters-

I thought they could enter Cuban waters as long as they didn't spend
any money.

For the OP, how was the food? I've been to Cuba twice and the food
was adequate, but not great.

dechucka

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"Dan Bracuk" <bra...@pathcom.com> wrote in message
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> "dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
> in:
> :
> :They were definitely resident fish as American fish aren't allowed to
> travel
> :to Cuban waters-
>
> I thought they could enter Cuban waters as long as they didn't spend
> any money.

Are so only dollar fish like the Peprilus triacanthus can't enter Cuban
waters and stay


snip

dechucka

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"ben bradlee" <No...@Way.Bite.Me> wrote in message
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It says that during the campaign Obama had talked about easing the travel
restrictions that is must be what I remember

thanks for the article

dechucka

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and Ahhh would have been better. Damm Gates and Vista, typical septic screws
the world for a buck :-)

Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick

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"ben bradlee" <No...@Way.Bite.Me> wrote in message
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> I don't know. Biden just took a step backward on the administration's
> stance on Cuba.
>
> http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/cuba/sfl-flabidencuba0329sbmar29,0,7022957.story
>
> Of course Biden has been on both sides of every issue since he entered
> politics. He's made it through all these years pandering to the masses.


I'm sure that's the #1 reason you voted for him.

--


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someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over
there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done." -Carlin

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Rod

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Mar 31, 2009, 9:03:49 AM3/31/09
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On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:27:22 +1100, "dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com>
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Your welcome to use the operating systems developed in Aus

Greg Mossman

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On Mar 31, 5:13 am, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"

<Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote:
> "ben bradlee" <No...@Way.Bite.Me> wrote in message
>
> news:uqGdnVbukIVkt0zU...@centurytel.net...
>
> > I don't know.  Biden just took a step backward on the administration's
> > stance on Cuba.
>
> >http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/cuba/sfl-flabidencuba0329sbmar...

>
> > Of course Biden has been on both sides of every issue since he entered
> > politics.  He's made it through all these years pandering to the masses.
>
>   I'm sure that's the #1 reason you voted for him.

None of us voted for VP. Biden was Obama's choice. Still, given a
choice between Biden and Palin... I wonder if Palin could even
locate Cuba on a map?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/03/28/politics/politico/main4900233_page2.shtml

Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick

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At least they can do that.

They can't afford billionaires.


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will become as God is." -Dr. Hannibal Lector.

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dechucka

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LINUX is OK but only a bit was developed here
>

dechucka

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"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
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> "Rod" <log...@verizonnet.addthedot> wrote in message
> news:49d2149a....@news.verizon.net...
>> On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:27:22 +1100, "dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:49d13e3e$0$29901$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>
>>>> "Dan Bracuk" <bra...@pathcom.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:nad2t45fhcmb1teil...@4ax.com...
>>>>> "dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
>>>>> in:
>>>>> :
>>>>> :They were definitely resident fish as American fish aren't allowed to
>>>>> travel
>>>>> :to Cuban waters-
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought they could enter Cuban waters as long as they didn't spend
>>>>> any money.
>>>>
>>>> Are so only dollar fish like the Peprilus triacanthus can't enter Cuban
>>>> waters and stay
>>>
>>>
>>>and Ahhh would have been better. Damm Gates and Vista, typical septic
>>>screws
>>>the world for a buck :-)
>
>
>> Your welcome to use the operating systems developed in Aus
>
> At least they can do that.
>
> They can't afford billionaires.

Your ignorance is showing again. Even converting to US dollars there are
few in Aus

Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick

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>
> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in

>>>>and Ahhh would have been better. Damm Gates and Vista, typical septic

>>>>screws the world for a buck :-)
>>
>>
>>> Your welcome to use the operating systems developed in Aus
>>
>> At least they can do that.
>>
>> They can't afford billionaires.
>
> Your ignorance is showing again. Even converting to US dollars there are
> few in Aus

Who's ignorance?

You just proved, because you're really easy to dupe, that your "typical
septic" comment was your usual, petulant, ignorant prejudicial bigotry.

Just another off-topic AA maligning out of jealousy, your usual history.

You just can't spit the hook out.

Rod

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On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:42:11 +1100, "dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com>
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A bit ? 1/10 of a byte in a multi million byte operating system ?
Yea that makes it yours, go for it

dechucka

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didn't say it was

dechucka

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> "dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:49d26485$0$29887$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>
>> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
>
>>>>>and Ahhh would have been better. Damm Gates and Vista, typical septic
>>>>>screws the world for a buck :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>> Your welcome to use the operating systems developed in Aus
>>>
>>> At least they can do that.
>>>
>>> They can't afford billionaires.
>>
>> Your ignorance is showing again. Even converting to US dollars there are
>> few in Aus
>
>
>
> Who's ignorance?

yours. You were wrong there are Aus US$ Billionaires

>
> You just proved, because you're really easy to dupe, that your "typical
> septic" comment was your usual, petulant, ignorant prejudicial bigotry.

a legitimate comment particularly about Vista

>
> Just another off-topic AA maligning out of jealousy, your usual history.
>
> You just can't spit the hook out.

spit out the hook? You were the one that came charging around with the speed
and viciousness of a gummy shark when I posted

Greg Mossman

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On Mar 31, 4:58 pm, "dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> >>>  At least they can do that.
>
> >>>  They can't afford billionaires.
>
> >> Your ignorance is showing again. Even converting to US dollars there are
> >> few in Aus
>
> >  Who's ignorance?
>
> yours. You were wrong there are Aus US$ Billionaires

For the record, the most famous Australian ever, Paul Hogan, is facing
tax charges:

http://www.accountingweb.com/cgi-bin/item.cgi?id=106113&d=883&h=884&f=882&dateformat=%25e-%25h-%25y

The largest tax fraud inquiry in Australia's history, that's the way
the Australian Crime Commission describes the scam, or series of scams
in which Crocodile Dundee star, Paul Hogan is accused of taking part.
The official inquiry, called "Operation Wickenby," is in its fourth
year.
When the investigation started, the ACC estimated it could clawback
about $300 million (Australian) in unpaid taxes. Unfortunately, say
critics, the investigation has gone on so long that the government has
actually spent more than that to conduct the inquiry, and in the
process, weakened civil liberties.

While Paul Hogan may be the most high-profile subject of the
investigation, he is by far not the only one. The tax commissioner,
Michael D'Ascenzo, has told the public there are 500 suspected "tax
cheats," and over 250 tax officials working on Operation Wickenby
across five agencies.

For his part, Paul Hogan, with the help of his financial advisor, Tony
Stewart, is accused of weaving a complex web of crimes, with the
intent to evade income tax in the U.S. and Australia. To assist the
investigation, a U.S. court is demanding that three banks provide
Hogan's financial records, as well as any information relating to
companies affiliated with Hogan's businesses.

Specifically, one of the accusations against Hogan is that he
manufactured a false deduction for a nearly $1 million paid in
interest. The details were reported in Australia's Daily Telegraph
based on a crime affidavit filed by Crime Commission investigator, Ian
Andrew. Tax officials say he borrowed $4 million from one of his own
offshore businesses, GB Film Finance (registered in the British Virgin
Islands, owned half by Hogan and half by fellow Crocodile Dundee
investor, John Cornell).

Later, say officials, a fictitious dispute over early repayment of the
loan erupted, between Hogan's U.S. attorney, Craig Emanual, and GB
Film Finance. The dispute was settled, says Hogan, when he repaid the
loan including $600,000 in interest, through Quatre Saison Trust, an
offshore account. Hogan then claimed a tax deduction for $910,884 on
his 2004 Australian Income tax.

In addition, Hogan is accused of dodging taxes by having periods of
time when he did not claim residency in the U.S. or Australia,
positioning himself so that he was liable for taxes in neither
country.

dechucka

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"Greg Mossman" <mos...@qnet.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 31, 4:58 pm, "dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> >>> At least they can do that.
>
> >>> They can't afford billionaires.
>
> >> Your ignorance is showing again. Even converting to US dollars there
> >> are
> >> few in Aus
>
> > Who's ignorance?
>
> yours. You were wrong there are Aus US$ Billionaires

For the record, the most famous Australian ever, Paul Hogan, is facing
tax charges:

======================================================

Most famous Aus ever now that is a big call

http://www.accountingweb.com/cgi-bin/item.cgi?id=106113&d=883&h=884&f=882&dateformat=%25e-%25h-%25y

The largest tax fraud inquiry in Australia's history, that's the way
the Australian Crime Commission describes the scam, or series of scams
in which Crocodile Dundee star, Paul Hogan is accused of taking part.
The official inquiry, called "Operation Wickenby," is in its fourth
year.

=============================================================

very old news, try and keep up

Greg Mossman

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On Mar 31, 5:18 pm, "dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Greg Mossman" <moss...@qnet.com> wrote in message

>
> news:46a4d2ec-4293-4034...@r31g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 31, 4:58 pm, "dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >>> At least they can do that.
>
> > >>> They can't afford billionaires.
>
> > >> Your ignorance is showing again. Even converting to US dollars there
> > >> are
> > >> few in Aus
>
> > > Who's ignorance?
>
> > yours. You were wrong there are Aus US$ Billionaires
>
> For the record, the most famous Australian ever, Paul Hogan, is facing
> tax charges:
>
> ======================================================
>
> Most famous Aus ever now that is a big call

Hardly. Crocodile Dundee personfies Aussies for all Americans. Name
one Aussie who's more famous. I dare you.

> The largest tax fraud inquiry in Australia's history, that's the way
> the Australian Crime Commission describes the scam, or series of scams
> in which Crocodile Dundee star, Paul Hogan is accused of taking part.
> The official inquiry, called "Operation Wickenby," is in its fourth
> year.

> very old news, try and keep up

You're complaining about old news from a country that still gets its
headlines from tin cans and string strung across the Pacific? Good
grief!

"The Australian reported Monday that most of the Australian Defense
Force advanced weaponry is waiting for upgrades or replacement.
Currently, the equipment has little value other than for training
purposes, the newspaper said. The Australian noted that none of the
air force's F-111 strike bombers, nor the majority of its 71 F/A-18
Hornet fighters, can be used against an enemy with modern air defenses
because they lack adequate electronic protection. The newspaper noted
that the Australian Defense Force receives $22 billion in taxpayer
funds each year, but cannot conduct any high-level operations without
substantial support from coalition forces such as the United States."

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/03/30/Report_Australian_military_ill-prepared/UPI-25091238463997/

Crocodile Dundee would be ashamed. You call that a knife?

dechucka

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"Greg Mossman" <mos...@qnet.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 31, 5:18 pm, "dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Greg Mossman" <moss...@qnet.com> wrote in message
>
> news:46a4d2ec-4293-4034...@r31g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 31, 4:58 pm, "dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >>> At least they can do that.
>
> > >>> They can't afford billionaires.
>
> > >> Your ignorance is showing again. Even converting to US dollars there
> > >> are
> > >> few in Aus
>
> > > Who's ignorance?
>
> > yours. You were wrong there are Aus US$ Billionaires
>
> For the record, the most famous Australian ever, Paul Hogan, is facing
> tax charges:
>
> ======================================================
>
> Most famous Aus ever now that is a big call

Hardly. Crocodile Dundee personfies Aussies for all Americans. Name
one Aussie who's more famous. I dare you.

============================================================

Greg Norman

> The largest tax fraud inquiry in Australia's history, that's the way
> the Australian Crime Commission describes the scam, or series of scams
> in which Crocodile Dundee star, Paul Hogan is accused of taking part.
> The official inquiry, called "Operation Wickenby," is in its fourth
> year.

> very old news, try and keep up

You're complaining about old news from a country that still gets its
headlines from tin cans and string strung across the Pacific? Good
grief!

"The Australian reported Monday that most of the Australian Defense
Force advanced weaponry is waiting for upgrades or replacement.
Currently, the equipment has little value other than for training
purposes, the newspaper said. The Australian noted that none of the
air force's F-111 strike bombers, nor the majority of its 71 F/A-18
Hornet fighters, can be used against an enemy with modern air defenses
because they lack adequate electronic protection. The newspaper noted
that the Australian Defense Force receives $22 billion in taxpayer
funds each year, but cannot conduct any high-level operations without
substantial support from coalition forces such as the United States."

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/03/30/Report_Australian_military_ill-prepared/UPI-25091238463997/

Crocodile Dundee would be ashamed. You call that a knife?

=======================================================


your not wrong we should have brought from Russia and got decent aircraft

Greg Mossman

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On Mar 31, 5:36 pm, "dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > For the record, the most famous Australian ever, Paul Hogan, is facing
> > tax charges:
>
> > ======================================================
>
> > Most famous Aus ever now that is a big call
>
> Hardly.  Crocodile Dundee personfies Aussies for all Americans.  Name
> one Aussie who's more famous.  I dare you.

> Greg Norman

Who?

If you think a lame golfer is more famous than a Hollywood movie star
then Popeye has pegged your IQ better than I ever could.

"He resides in California, United States. In Australian media, he is
reported as a tax evader, accused of refusing to pay over AU$300
million worth of taxation. In an interview with the Australian edition
of 60 Minutes, when asked if the Australian Taxation Office would file
an arrest for him, he replied, "Come and get me, you miserable
bastards." On 29 October 2008, it was revealed that Paul Hogan scored
a major victory in his tax fight with the Australian Crime Commission,
who were forced to stump up millions of taxpayer dollars to pay his
legal bills. In a humiliating backdown, the ACC has returned tens of
thousands of personal financial documents to Hogan."

Janna used to work for Linda's business manager. She not only met the
famous Paul but shook his hand with her hand (before the eel chomped
half it off).

Is it possible that the eel that bit Janna sensed Paul Hogan's scent
on her hand and bit her to spite all you Aussies? If so, that's one
more reason in my book why you're all (or at least most of you)
detestable scum.

El Stroko Guapo

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Greg Mossman wrote:

> On Mar 31, 5:36 pm, "dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>>>For the record, the most famous Australian ever, Paul Hogan, is facing
>>>tax charges:
>>
>>>======================================================
>>
>>>Most famous Aus ever now that is a big call
>>
>>Hardly. Crocodile Dundee personfies Aussies for all Americans. Name
>>one Aussie who's more famous. I dare you.
>
>
>>Greg Norman

Sir Jack Brabham
Alan Jones
Mark Webber
Larry Perkins
Tim Schenken
David Walker
Chris Atkinson

Off the top of my head as more famous.

Greg Mossman

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Mar 31, 2009, 10:59:00 PM3/31/09
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In a kangaroo's eye.

Movie stars trump NASCAR wannabes any day.

Dan Bracuk

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Mar 31, 2009, 11:05:16 PM3/31/09
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Greg Mossman <mos...@qnet.com> pounded away at his keyboard resulting
in:

:Hardly. Crocodile Dundee personfies Aussies for all Americans. Name


:one Aussie who's more famous. I dare you.

Greg Norman.
Olivia Newton John
Kylie Minogue

Dennis (Icarus)

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Mar 31, 2009, 10:43:35 PM3/31/09
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"Rod" <log...@verizonnet.addthedot> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 05:42:11 +1100, "dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
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>>
<snip>

>>
>>LINUX is OK but only a bit was developed here
>>>
>>
> A bit ? 1/10 of a byte in a multi million byte operating system ?
> Yea that makes it yours, go for it

generally, a byte is 8 bits, so that'd be 1/8.

Dennis

Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick

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"Dan Bracuk" <bra...@pathcom.com> wrote in message
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Olivia Newton John?

More popular than Paul Hogan?

I mighta kept that one to myself.

Greg Mossman

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Apr 1, 2009, 12:02:11 PM4/1/09
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On Mar 31, 7:43 pm, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <nojunkm...@ever.invalid>
wrote:
> "Rod" <log_...@verizonnet.addthedot> wrote in message

That's only because computers were invented in the U.S. If Euros had
invented the computer, we'd be using metric bytes.

Dan Bracuk

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Apr 1, 2009, 7:00:52 PM4/1/09
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"Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com>
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: Olivia Newton John?


:
: More popular than Paul Hogan?
:
: I mighta kept that one to myself.

Certainly more famous. I like ONJ. Comely lass and a fine singer.

Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick

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Apr 1, 2009, 7:33:52 PM4/1/09
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"Dan Bracuk" <bra...@pathcom.com> wrote in message
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> "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com>
> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
>
> : Olivia Newton John?
> :
> : More popular than Paul Hogan?
> :
> : I mighta kept that one to myself.
>
> Certainly more famous.

Maybe in Canada.

I never liked her type of music, and have a pathalogic hatred of the only
movie that I've ever seen her in.

>I like ONJ. Comely lass

Seen her lately?

She's not aging well.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ctp6xp

> and a fine singer.

Nowhere near, say, a LeAnn Rimes.

Dan Bracuk

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Apr 1, 2009, 8:15:09 PM4/1/09
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"Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com>
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: I never liked her type of music, and have a pathalogic hatred of the only
:movie that I've ever seen her in.

We all have our own likes and dislikes.

Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick

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"Dan Bracuk" <bra...@pathcom.com> wrote in message
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> "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com>
> pounded away at his keyboard resulting in:
> : I never liked her type of music, and have a pathalogic hatred of the
> only
> :movie that I've ever seen her in.
>
> We all have our own likes and dislikes.

I'm happy that you're happy. :-)

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Grumman-581

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Dan Bracuk <bra...@pathcom.com> wrote in
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> For the OP, how was the food? I've been to Cuba twice and the food
> was adequate, but not great.

It's a communist country -- you should be happy you even *have* food...

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Apr 2, 2009, 7:41:36 PM4/2/09
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log...@verizonnet.addthedot (Rod) wrote in
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> A bit ? 1/10 of a byte in a multi million byte operating system ?
> Yea that makes it yours, go for it

That would be 1/8 of a byte... Inflation might cause the size of
applications and such to increase, but the basic building blocks are still
the same...

Grumman-581

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Greg Mossman <mos...@qnet.com> wrote in
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> Hardly. Crocodile Dundee personfies Aussies for all Americans. Name
> one Aussie who's more famous. I dare you.

Yeah, it's not like we would know the name of their prime minister or
whatever, right?

I did a quick search...

http://knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/List_of_famous_Australians/

The only other ones that I recognized were:

Russel Crowe
Errol Flynn
Mel Gibson (American born, Aussie raised)
Steve Irwin
Nicole Kidman
Andy Gibb
Olivia Newton-John
Helen Reddy
Keith Urban

Some of these were Kiwis and might object to being grouped with the Aussies
though...

Grumman-581

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Apr 2, 2009, 11:05:13 PM4/2/09
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Dan Bracuk <bra...@pathcom.com> wrote in
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> Certainly more famous. I like ONJ. Comely lass and a fine singer.

Never cared for her singing, but I wouldn't have kicked her out of bed for
eating crackers...

Unless there was more room on the floor...

dechucka

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"Grumman-581" <grumman581+...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dan Bracuk <bra...@pathcom.com> wrote in
> news:jfs7t411ib4gn2pfo...@4ax.com:
>
>> Certainly more famous. I like ONJ. Comely lass and a fine singer.
>
> Never cared for her singing, but I wouldn't have kicked her out of bed for
> eating crackers...

but that's true of most living things for you

The scariest thing I heard about was you trying to shoot Mrs. Palmer and her
5 daughters for not giving you satisfaction

Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick

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"Grumman-581" <grumman581+...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Greg Mossman <mos...@qnet.com> wrote in
> news:e13f94f8-7cb7-462d...@v35g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Hardly. Crocodile Dundee personfies Aussies for all Americans. Name
>> one Aussie who's more famous. I dare you.
>
> Yeah, it's not like we would know the name of their prime minister or
> whatever, right?

Who would care?

It's like trying to remember the Grand Potentate of Lichtenstein, or some
other unimportant little shithole.

dechucka

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"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
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> "Grumman-581" <grumman581+...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9BE1D343889AAgr...@74.209.131.13...
>> Greg Mossman <mos...@qnet.com> wrote in
>> news:e13f94f8-7cb7-462d...@v35g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> Hardly. Crocodile Dundee personfies Aussies for all Americans. Name
>>> one Aussie who's more famous. I dare you.
>>
>> Yeah, it's not like we would know the name of their prime minister or
>> whatever, right?
>
>
>
> Who would care?
>
> It's like trying to remember the Grand Potentate of Lichtenstein, or some
> other unimportant little shithole.

but from our pov who gives a fuck what the septics care about. Caring about
what the sceptics know about the world would take about 2 seconds, is that a
time measurement you know about ?

Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick

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>
> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
> message news:mKadnQPGWZNfEkjU...@supernews.com...
>> "Grumman-581" <grumman581+...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9BE1D343889AAgr...@74.209.131.13...
>>> Greg Mossman <mos...@qnet.com> wrote in
>>> news:e13f94f8-7cb7-462d...@v35g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>> Hardly. Crocodile Dundee personfies Aussies for all Americans. Name
>>>> one Aussie who's more famous. I dare you.
>>>
>>> Yeah, it's not like we would know the name of their prime minister or
>>> whatever, right?
>>
>>
>>
>> Who would care?
>>
>> It's like trying to remember the Grand Potentate of Lichtenstein, or
>> some other unimportant little shithole.
>
> but from our pov who gives a fuck what the septics care about.

You do, or you wouldn't be blathering on about it for -years-.

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Lee Bell

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Apr 3, 2009, 10:09:36 PM4/3/09
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> : Olivia Newton John?
> :
> : More popular than Paul Hogan?
> :
> : I mighta kept that one to myself.
>
> Certainly more famous. I like ONJ. Comely lass and a fine singer.

I'm not sure the question really is one of popularity. As I recall, it was
more along the lines of being better known to Americans, and I'd be willing
to bet that Paul Hogan would win that one hands down.

Now that you mention it, however, I agree about Olivia Newton John. She is
comely indeed and more than just a "fine" singer.

Lee


Lee Bell

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Apr 3, 2009, 10:13:26 PM4/3/09
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> I never liked her type of music, and have a pathalogic hatred of the only
> movie that I've ever seen her in.

Grease? Mostly worthless, but it had its moments, all of which included
ONJ.
Xanadu? Hot babe on skates. That's all I can remember about it.

> Seen her lately?
> She's not aging well.

Neither am I. By the way, she still looks pretty good to me.

>> and a fine singer.
>
> Nowhere near, say, a LeAnn Rimes.

Also a great singer. I have more LeAnn Rimes songs than ONJ songs by
multiples.

Lee


dechucka

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"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
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> "dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
>> message news:mKadnQPGWZNfEkjU...@supernews.com...
>>> "Grumman-581" <grumman581+...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9BE1D343889AAgr...@74.209.131.13...
>>>> Greg Mossman <mos...@qnet.com> wrote in
>>>> news:e13f94f8-7cb7-462d...@v35g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
>>>>
>>>>> Hardly. Crocodile Dundee personfies Aussies for all Americans. Name
>>>>> one Aussie who's more famous. I dare you.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, it's not like we would know the name of their prime minister or
>>>> whatever, right?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Who would care?
>>>
>>> It's like trying to remember the Grand Potentate of Lichtenstein, or
>>> some other unimportant little shithole.
>>
>> but from our pov who gives a fuck what the septics care about.
>
> You do, or you wouldn't be blathering on about it for -years-.

you mistake having fun for interest

Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick

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"dechucka" <vo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Blathering on about it, for years, from your defenseless third world
shithole.

It's from angst and envy, and the probable American lineage of your
family's previous generation.

dechucka

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"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
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Quite like it here in beautiful peaceful Aus.

>
> It's from angst and envy, and the probable American lineage of your
> family's previous generation.

Angst and envy of what? Yes I do come to the states occasionally to visit my
US relatives although they seem to come out here a lot as they love this
country.

You take this all far to serious

Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick

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Doesn't make it any less of a defenseless shithole.

It just means you have low standards.

>> It's from angst and envy, and the probable American lineage of your
>> family's previous generation.
>
> Angst and envy of what? Yes I do come to the states occasionally to visit
> my US relatives although they seem to come out here a lot as they love
> this country.
>
> You take this all far to serious

You're assuming I (or for that matter, anyone here) take you seriously at
all.

You're as personally defenseless to me as you country is, militarily, to
Switzerland or Spain.

And of course, I'm not the one who hangs around in Australian Sport Scuba,
continually making repetitively obsessive sophomoric disparaging remarks
about -your- country.

Grumman-581

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"Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote
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> And of course, I'm not the one who hangs around in Australian Sport
> Scuba, continually making repetitively obsessive sophomoric
> disparaging remarks about -your- country.

And even if you were, would anyone be there to actually hear you? Kind of
like that tree falling in the forest question, isn't it?

Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick

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"Grumman-581" <grumman581+...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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It's one of those "on topic" newsgroups.

dechucka

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"Grumman-581" <grumman581+...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote
> in news:y7ydnd2Jg_X_MUXU...@supernews.com:
>
>> And of course, I'm not the one who hangs around in Australian Sport
>> Scuba, continually making repetitively obsessive sophomoric
>> disparaging remarks about -your- country.
>
> And even if you were, would anyone be there to actually hear you? Kind of
> like that tree falling in the forest question, isn't it?

Sad but true

dechucka

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"Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" <Pop...@finalprotectivefire.com> wrote in
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and your point is what?

Australia has always been indefensible to much coastline to few people

Shithole in your dreams? We have everything here

>
> It just means you have low standards.
>
>>> It's from angst and envy, and the probable American lineage of your
>>> family's previous generation.
>>
>> Angst and envy of what? Yes I do come to the states occasionally to visit
>> my US relatives although they seem to come out here a lot as they love
>> this country.
>>
>> You take this all far to serious
>
> You're assuming I (or for that matter, anyone here) take you seriously at
> all.
>
> You're as personally defenseless to me as you country is, militarily, to
> Switzerland or Spain.

Why do you make such a big thing about this. You're over there and I'm ovr
her.


>
> And of course, I'm not the one who hangs around in Australian Sport
> Scuba, continually making repetitively obsessive sophomoric disparaging
> remarks about -your- country.

you have been there done that but hey we are pretty laid back so don't
really care

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