Last-Modified: 6 May 1996

FAQ #1 -- rec.scouting.* Hierarchy Frequently Asked Questions

This is the first publication of the permanent
FAQ #1 -- Guide to the rec.scouting.* Hierarchy.  
Please let me know by email of any additions or corrections.

TABLE OF CONTENTS
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 1 - General Introduction -- rec.scouting.* Hierarchy
 2 - Group Charters
 3 - Etiquette Guidelines
 4 - Some Frequently Asked Questions

Subject:  General Introduction -- rec.scouting.* Hierarchy

Welcome to rec.scouting.*, the news hierarchy for boy and girl
scouts and guides, cub scouts, venturers, rovers, scout leaders
and all people interested in  scouting and guiding issues,
worldwide.

Rec.scouting.* is an unmoderated hierarchy for boy and girl scouts and
guides, cub scouts, venturers, rovers, scout leaders and all people
interested in scouting and guiding, worldwide. This hierarchy discusses
issues relevant to scouting activities, and the administration of scout
units. It allows for the solicitation of advice from other netters
on what to do in certain situations, and generally seek and provide
support and encouragement with respect to scouting.
Postings not related to scouting or guiding are discouraged

Each rec.scouting* group is setup to discuss different topics of
scouting interest.  To keep duplicate articles to a minimum,
crossposting between rec.scouting* groups is discouraged.

This document introduces new readers to the different groups
ad the prefered Etiquette for the rec.scouting.* hierarchy.  Individual
groups may have additional etiquette guidelines, see the list of FAQs.

If you have a useful item that hasn't been included in this FAQ, please
do all of us the favor.  Write it up and post it on rec.scouting.*.
Drop me a copy too to make sure that I include it in this file.

As the FAQ files are updated regularly, make sure that you have the
latest copy in your hands. The release date of this FAQ is indicated in
the line starting with "Last-Modified:" at the top of this file. Files
older than three months should be considered as outdated.

Please take a few minutes and post an introduction.  Tell us a bit
about yourself, what organization you are with (e.g., BSA, or non-
scouting/guiding organization), what unit you are with, if
appropriate (e.g. Pack 878, Grand Canyon Council), you position,
how long you have been involved and what you would like to see
discussed in a particular rec.scouting.* group.

This file or parts of it may be freely used, printed and re-distributed
as long as you enclose this paragraph and keep the references to the
respective contributors and to the maintainer (listed below) intact.

-- Bill Nelson  <nels...@aztec.asu.edu>

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Subject:  The Groups and Their Charters
From: Bill Nelson  <nels...@aztec.asu.edu>
Date: 27 April 1996

                             *** THE GROUPS ***

CHARTER: rec.scouting.misc

Rec.scouting.misc is an unmoderated group for boy and girl scouts and
guides, cub scouts, venturers, rovers, scout leaders and all people
interested in scouting and guiding, worldwide. This group discusses
issues relevant to scouting activities, and the administration of scout
units. It allows for the solicitation of advice from other netters
on what to do in certain situations, and generally seek and provide
support and encouragement with respect to scouting. Cross-posting to
other rec.scouting groups is strongly discouraged. Postings concerning
topics pertaining solely to US scouting is strongly discouraged.
Postings not related to scouting or guiding are discouraged.

CHARTER: rec.scouting.usa

rec.scouting.usa is an unmoderated group for Boy and Girl Scouts,
Cub Scouts, Explorers, Christian Service Brigade members, members of
religious-based scouting or guiding organizations, their leaders,
advisors, professional or career employees of USA scouting movements,
and all people interested in scouting and guiding in the United States.

This group discusses issues relevant to the program, unit support,
finance, membership development and the administration of scout units.
It allows for the solicitation of advice and information from other
netters on what to do in certain situations, and generally seek and
provide support, general information and encouragement regarding
scouting.

The content of this newsgroup is NOT to be accepted as "official
information" coming from American scouting organizations, as such
information comes normally through their national offices through
regional groups to local organizations for distribution to units and
members; however posted messages to this newsgroup may contain parts of
official publications and information to answer or respond to questions
or issues brought up with the proper crediting of such information by
the poster.

This newsgroup is NOT the place for discussions on scouting ISSUES, for
instance, issues related to girls in the boy scout program, whether or
not Assembly of God churches should abandon the Boy Scouts of America's
programs in favor of the Royal Rangers, or open homosexual members as
members or leaders in BSA programs. Those discussions will take place
on rec.scouting.issues, and those posting to this newsgroup will be
followed or redirected to rec.scouting.issues. Cross-posting to other
rec.scouting groups is strongly discouraged. Postings not related to
scouting in the United States are discouraged.

CHARTER: rec.scouting.issues

rec.scouting.issues is an unmoderated newsgroup for the discussion
and explanation of worldwide, national or regional issues concerning
national Scouting or Guiding organizations' policies, rules or
regulations. Cross-posting to other rec.scouting groups is strongly
discouraged. Postings not related to Scouting or Guiding issues are
discouraged.

CHARTER: rec.scouting.guide+girl

rec.scouting.guide+girl is an unmoderated newsgroup for the discussion
and explanation of issues concerning guiding organizations and those
that belong to the World Association of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts.
Cross-posting to other rec.scouting groups is strongly discouraged.
Postings not related to Girl Scouting or Guiding are discouraged.

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Subject:  Etiquette Guidelines -- rec.scouting.*
From: Bill Nelson  <nels...@aztec.asu.edu>
Date: 5 May 1996

                         *** ETIQUETTE GUIDELINES ***

Before reading any further, please go to the newsgroup
news.announce.newusers and read the posting: Rules for posting
to Usenet.   This message describes some of the rules of conduct
on Usenet.  Posters to the rec.scouting* hierarchy are
expected to know and follow these rules.

The following guidelines are additions to the rules described
in news.announce.newusers.

o  It is expected that scouts, guides and scouters adhere to the
    principles of their organization's oath, promise or law pertaining
    to proper behavior.

o  Before asking a question, check the Frequently Asked Questions
    (FAQ) files.  Chances are the answer is there.

o   Please do not "flame" (insult) anyone in these newsgroups.  
    Discussions will naturally bring disagreements,
    however, rebuttals should always be made
    in a rational, logical and mature manner.  

o  If an inappropriate, or off subject note is posted to a group
    please send a private email to the poster informing him of
    the appropriate subject matter for rec.scouting.usa.  Please
    do not post a reply to the group.  A posted reply only adds to
    the clutter in the group.

o The rec.scouting heirarchy has a strong worldwide scope. Many readers
are
   outside of your country and will not understand terms which are
   proper to your own organization. Please keep this in mind
   when setting up an article or a reply and include some basic
   background information so that everyone can understand.

o  English is not the one and only allowed language on rec.scouting.*;
   however, it is the most widely understood. So if you're posting
   a message in another language, be kind enough to add a short abstract
   of its content at the beginning.

o  Please limit the amount of material included from previous
   postings as much as possible, and try to be concise.  
   However, make sure that you include enough of the original
   post so as to make your follow-up sensible.  

o  If you state any facts, please cite a reference where interested
    people can fine further information, and verify the citation.
    Please refrain from making global generalizations, such as
    "The xxx orgaization is the only organization in the world
     that does such and such."  Unless you cite a reference for
    such a statement.  

o  Please re-edit your Subject and Newsgroup lines before sending
   a follow-up. Replies in the third round rarely have a direct
   relation to the original subject.

o  Also, before posting, please double check the newsgroup line
    and make sure you are not posting to unrelated newsgroups.

 o  If you post concerning a specific organization (e.g., BSA)
   Please put the name of the organization (e.g., BSA:)
   in the subject line.  There are people from many
   organizations, and from all over the world, looking at the news
group.
   Many organizations have the same name for their programs (e.g., Cub
   Scouts) and it gets very confusing as to what program you are
   referring to.

o  Please remember the scope of each newsgroup.  If you find that your
   discussion is going outside of this scope, please take it to another
   group or off-line.  Please do not cross-post within the rec.scouting
   hierarchy.

o  The bottom line: post intelligently, and make this newsgroup
   worthwhile to read through.

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Subject:  Is this where I can get clipart and fonts?
From: Bill Nelson  <nels...@aztec.asu.edu>
Date: 5 May 1996

Q.  
...

read more »

Welcome to the new newsgroup for discussing Girl Scouts and
Girl Guides issues and for exchanging ideas.

I realize that many people's servers aren't picking up this
newsgroup yet, but I wonder how many of us have it already.
Let's do a roll call and see who's reading this.

I'm Brenda Groelz, leader of Junior Troop 728, Aurora,
Nebraska, USA.  I have 10 girls, all just finishing 6th grade,
and after tonight, I'll be the leader of a Cadette troop! We've
got Court of Awards and Bridging tonight!

I'm in the suburbs of Corpus Christi, Tx. USA. I have a Junior Troop & a
Senior troop.  Next year will be my last as a troop leader, however I'm a
lifetime member & will still be helping out in many other areas.
Margaret
--
Keep your hands, heart & mind open & someone might put something
wonderful in them.

In article <597cc$bd1a.1bb@NEWS>, "Brenda L. Groelz"

Ditto to everything except who I am.   I am Brenda Vogsland,  leader of
GSUSA Junior Troop 3046, Rio Rancho,  New Mexico,  USA.  I have 8 girls
all just finishing the 4th grade.  We are helping our Sister Troop bridge
on May 17th.  Because they were a Sister Troop to a bridging troop,  they
will have earned their Junior Aide Patch.  Our Court of Awards is
scheduled for May 23rd.  I may schedule it for May 20th if we can get a
room in the Church's Religious Ed. building for that night.  School is
finished as of May 21st this year (we started in early August).

I'm Joyce Betz- a troop of 16 third graders who will be bridging
in two weeks, from Irish Hills Girl Scout Council  Springport Michigan,USA

Hi, all!

I'm Margaret Counts in Cocoa Beach, FL, Sparkling Water Service Unit,
Citrus Council.  Currently I am an assistant leader for Troop 563,
second year Juniors.  We have a somewhat eclectic group because our
troop includes girls from two grade levels and three different
schools.  My second daughter is one of the 12 girls in this troop.  

In the past I have led Daisy and Brownie troops.  I rejoined scouts as
an adult when my older daughter became a Daisy.  She just bridged to
Cadettes last Tuesday.  I have another daughter who will be joining
Daisies in another year,  so I plan on being around Scouts for a long
time to come.

YIS,

Margaret in FL

 ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D

                     People who think they know it all
                             are very annoying
                            to those of us who DO

 ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D  ;-D

I'm Bev Herzog.  I'm on the board and chair the property
committee of the Green Meadows Girl Scout Council in
east-central Illinois.  I was active from Brownies (no
Daisies then) through Campus Scouts, including 3 years as
a resident camp counselor.  The only GS conctact I had for
many years was the camp's (Chalk Hills in WI) alumnae group.
After being named one of my Green Meadow's Women of
Distinction in 1994, I was recruited for the board.  I am
glad to have this group because I got tired of wading through
all the irrelevent stuff and flames in rec.scouting.  You are
keeping me in touch with the program side of things elsewhere,
giving me a better perspective in my current position.

Brenda L. Groelz (bgro...@mail.hamilton.net) wrote:
: Let's do a roll call and see who's reading this.

Hello, all.  I have just started on this group.  I'm Julie Thomson
from Rossland, British Columbia, Canada.  I'm a Brown Owl of the
3rd Rossland Brownie Unit where we have 19 seven and eight year old
girls.  Nice to "meet" you!!

Troop 1410 soon to mix with brownies flying up and become troop 1158
I'm a junior leader with older 3 graders (split between 2 large groups)
to grade 5.  My troop is located in Akron, Oh at a low-income school
where 96% of school is recieving  free or reduced lunch tickets.  Most of
the older girls are from "Choices" a program for high risk girls.  I've
had problems but enjoy being a leader.  I am the daisy/brownie coor. for
my nieghborhood (daisy troop fell through).  I was designed to work with
kids.

YIS
Bystarlite

I am a Junior co leader of 9 scouts ages 9-12.  This is my first year
altho I was involved a a helping mom in years before.  It is my daughters
5th  year in scouts and my 7th.  I never wnt on because no one was there
for me.  I will be there for my daughter and all my other scouts!  We have
made honor troop this year and we have earned the Sign of the Satellite
this year, our first!  We live in Leesburg, Virginia, a beautiful southern
old civilwar town in the foothills of the Blueridge Mts. about 50 miles
from D.C.  I am on Scouts-L and Scouts-girl-L and just discovered this
newsgroup and I really like it, but it does generate alot of mail!!!  More
that BSA!  I also have a Tiger cub and will be more involved in BSA as the
years go on, but I love Girl Scouting and I am proud to say I am a Girl
Scout.

Nice to meet you all,
Sharon Hahn
Mother of 3
Junior Troop 2601
Leesburg, Va.

Hi. I'm Debbie Marsh and am a first year Brownie leader (first graders). I
was in scouting for about 6 years as a girl, until junior high peer pressue
did me in!

We have had a great year but it has been a lot of work!! I think
I'll learn to delegate to my co-leader and parents a lot more next year. This
afternoon we are planting a big flower bed outside our main library which
should be fun. I was gone all weekend, though, and worried that the plants
would freeze on my back patio. It's amazing all the things you have to think
of as a leader!

I'm not sure what will be happening next year. I will definitely stay with my
first grade troop but my other daughter's troop (second grade) is really in
need of help. The leader has attended about 5 meetings in 2 years--it is a
very loosely organized co-op troop that meets irregularly and they have missed
so much. I led their first outing in 2 years last month and it was so much
fun for all of us (the leader didn't come). There are 17 girls in the
troop--lots of enthusiasm, sold lots of cookies. But, as we all know,
leadership is so important at this age and this troop has not had any to speak
of. Another mom and I have discussed leading the troop next year--she has
about 5 years experience as a leader with another daughter.  Last time I
talked to the leader I brought it up in a positive way--we will be glad to
help a lot more next year, etc.--and she said she was having family problems
and couldn't discuss it. Well, we'll just see what happens for a while and if
the existing leader says she's sticking with it I think we'll just offer an
alternative troop.  The service unit manager is aware of this situation but
has offered no help, ditto for the council field rep. Both have indicated that
offering another troop in the fall would be a reasonable way to deal with it,
but left it up to me!

My concern is whether I will burn out trying to lead two troops! I would be
co-leader for the 2nd graders and leader for the first graders. I know you may
be thinking "why not combine the troops" but I am hesitant to do that since I
already have 13 girls and a total of 30 in one troop sounds like too much.
Plus, my daughters are close in age and I'd like them to have their "own"
troop--of course, they end up tagging along with the other so that may make no
difference! Having read this list and Scout-Girls-L for a while I know that
part of the answer is in involving other parents and defining what I am
willing and not willing to do. We meet in my home which works out real well.

So--that is where I am and I truly thank all who take time to post their ideas
and experience on this list!

Debbie Marsh

snip

My troops spent most of spring break at camp, doing service projects.  It
was fun, we had the whole camp to ourselves.
They set out different flowering plants in a pattern of shorter to higher
in a super neat pattern.  The 'blue print' took several hours but are
worKing on Prints & Graphics too.  They were fun to watch.  They had to
know what color, height & basic look of the different plants.  There was
a lot 'brainstorming' & they all learned many things.  The time of
planting had to be just right so it would be really nice on Camp Open
House Day.  The area they planted was ont of the first things everyone
saw as they first came in.  I am so proud for them.  They got a lot of
feedback, recognizing the time, work, & effect of the garden.
BTW  Open house was in April.  Our climate is sub-tropical in Corpus
Christi, Tx.

snip

Debbie,

I have been a leader for 14 years.  I started from scratch, not being a
Scout as a girl.
I had 1 troop the first year but I have had 2 troops the 13 years since.
On year I had 3!  Besides nearly having burn-out I had trouble
remembering what each troop was working on.  
2 troops at a time have many blessings.  It so happened that my girls are
at the perfect age difference to help each other with requirements like
Bridging activities, leadership, teaching others to reinforce a skill,
Junior Aide & most wonderful, camping, my personal favorite.
When My oldest earned her Gold, 2 years ago & Bridged to Adults, I
decided to take a new Junior troop.  So, now I have a 2nd year Senior
troop & a second year Junior troop.  
When my Senior graduates I am going to try to find a leader for the
Junior troop.  They will be first-year Cadettes.

I'm turning 60 soon & have had 3 lumbar surgeries & have been diagnosed a
having TIA, so as much as it pains me, I feel I should let someone
without the baggage of ill health.  My Girl Scouts have always been  
understanding when I had to cancel meetings because of a medical problem.
I quit telling them why because bless their hearts, they would send
flowers & such, to the extent that I know it hurt their parents,
financially.  Most of my girls are from monetarily disadvantaged homes.
I feel that I'm breaking a promise when I have to cancel a meeting or
event.  I have no help with the troops except for my family.  The one
bright side to that is there are no disagreements over program.
Go for it.
With my blessing,
Margaret

--
Keep your hands, heart & mind open & someone might put something
wonderful in them.

In article <4n0tk6$...@kryten.awinc.com>, jthom...@wintermute.awinc.com

I'm Betsy Woodford, and I led a troop of 4th grade juniors that has been
together since Daisys. I'm a 20 year scout, former SUM, program committee,
etc.

We're having our court in two weeks, and for the first time, some of the
troop is going to established camp for a week this summer! We're troop 657,
Mt. Wilson Vista Council, Arcadia, California, USA

Betsy

Nancy Rimassa ... I've been a leader for 13 years. Currently have Daisies.
 Going to Iceland this summer as a co-leader for a patrol of
international Wider Opportunity Women.

Write me if you have any hints for International Jamboree participants.

Sisters in Scouting,
"Sunny"

  Hi!  I'm Michele Breaux, leader of Brownie troop #20, Jackson
Mississippi, USA.  My Brownies are mostly 2nd graders, from four
different schools!  
                     Michele

Hello!  I am Patti Whatley, fortunate leader of Troop 289 Girl Scouts, of
Pelican Council of Girl Scouts, in Shreveport, Louisiana, USA!  Currently,
I have 28 registered Brownie Girl Scouts (who will be meeting over the
summer by unanimous vote!), 24 of whom are actually active members, and
10 of whom will be performing their bridging activities this summer, and
bridging in August, before the back to school rush!  I read this newsgroup
with much interest, almost daily, and several names are already familiar to
me through patch trading (!), pen pals, Chris Welch's page, and the list
digest.  I derive many of "my" ideas from here!  As of August, my Troop will
consist of both Brownie and Junior Scouts, with a sister Daisy Troop meeting
on the same night (our council will only allow two age levels per troop).  
The Brownies will meet from 5:45 - 6:45 and the Juniors from 7:00 - 8:00 on
the second & fourth Monday of each month (the Daisy leader hasn't set a time
for hers yet).  I know that I will need at least 15 minutes to switch gears!
I am extremely lucky in that I have a wonderful set of ACTIVE parents to
draw on for help!  This year, I am going to actually use them (it took me
a while to learn how to delegate).  I am looking for someone to take the
incoming 1st graders this coming year, though (& next year they'll have 1st
& 2nd; the next year all Brownies), so that I can move up with my girls.  My
daughter will be a Junior, so I suppose I could just go with Juniors, but
then the Brownies wouldn't have a leader, and I would lose my girls!  From
what I have read, most troops meet more often and/or longer than we do, but
we manage to pack a lot into our meetings!  One thing we love to do is swap
Council/Area/Unit/etc. patches!  Anyone interested?  Also, check out our
web page at http://165.247.199.172/289home.html!  I am currently "attending"
Diane Hoag's web authoring class via e-mail, so our page is constantly under
construction (and may not always be "professionally" done).  Come see us!

Hello!  I'm Mona Londraville, leader of Junior Troop 175 in
Watertown, NY, USA.  There are 7 girls in our troop (one is my
daughter), all in 5th grade.  I've been either assistant, co-, or
leader to most of the 7 since 1st year Brownies.  

Two of my girls and myself are going to International Camp in
Petawawa, Ontario with the Opeongo Division Girl Guides this
weekend.  (Anybody else out there going?)  We're VERY excited!

The girls are working on a troop Web page and are trading
council/division (district, province?) patches with troops and
individuals we meet through the internet.  Send us e-mail if
you'd like to trade for a Thousand Islands GSC patch!

Mona
email: londr...@aldus.northnet.org
URL: http://www.azmetro.com/175home.html

In article <31980465.3...@Felix.teclink.net>, Michele & Daniel Breaux

Brownie Troop 3079... Groton CT  USA... have 38 registered... will take
over the troop next year with a new co-leader.  I have 27 years in... but
this is my first with Brownies... quite an experience!

Robin "Cooky" Stevens
First Class 1968
Connecticut Trails Council
AKA Sunni...@aol.com

"If it weren't for this half of the world...
              the other half would be the whole thing."

"Why settle 4 a Star, when u can the Sun?"

: Hello, all.  I have just started on this group.  I'm Julie Thomson
: from Rossland, British Columbia, Canada.  I'm a Brown Owl of the
: 3rd Rossland Brownie Unit where we have 19 seven and eight year old
: girls.  Nice to "meet" you!!

Hi Julie!

It's a pleasure to see some more Canadians on here... I sometimes feel
like laughing when I read these posts about units with 12 and 13 girls from
one grade level or school as being difficult!

We had our district registration night last night, and next year I will
have 21 7 and 8 year olds, spanning three grades and seven schools...
I'm pleased, almost all the girls who are new for next year (11) chose
our unit after talking to a girl in the unit, or a parent about the program
we offer (small gloat - the unit down the street which has run their
program in the same way for 20+ years only got two new girls for next year)

I'm in Toronto, for those of you who haven't met me yet, and if you've
posted to the camping thread, you'll probably be hearing from me soon,
as I've been offered the opportunity to write and have published a book
on Guiding camp experiences as a fourth year independent study at Univ.
Quite exciting! Any Canadian Guiders or former Guiders who would consent
to an online "interview" about their Guiding experiences, please let
me know!

Jocelyne
--
"It's impossible to be uncheered with a balloon."
                        -Winnie the Pooh

Jocelyne Pasman         yu101...@yorku.ca   Jocelyne_Pas...@edu.yorku.ca

Hi ya'll, from Texas,
I'm curious.  Do you have something similar to GSUSA Safety Wise?
We have certain ratios of Girls to Adults here.
I'm ashamed to say it, but in my experience & observation it's hard to
get enough parents &/or a place large enough for meetings of large
troops.
I started out with 23 girls & 3 moms.  More girls wanted to be Scouts but
had no adults willing or able to help out.
I now have 2 separate troops & there is a trip, planned by the council,
the girls want to go on.  For health reasons I can't go but I finally
found 2 moms who could take 3 girls.  We also have a rule that we have to
have a seat belt for each person.  

YIS&G,
Margaret

--
Keep your hands, heart & mind open & someone might put something
wonderful in them.

In <597cc$bd1a.1bb@NEWS>, "Brenda L. Groelz" <bgro...@mail.hamilton.net> writes:

I'm Sandra Benedict in Raleigh, NC.  I'm the parent of a Daisy
Girl Scout who will be bridging to Brownies next week. Her
troop is 12 girls, and all but one, who is moving out of town,
will be bridging to the same troop with the same leader from
this year.  BTW, The leaders DID like the T-shirts the girls
made for them for leader day.  They were surprised!

Howdy,

I lead Junior Troop 500 which has 9 girls this year.  We are a
mixed grade *and* mixed school troop.  There were a couple of
new girls in town who preferred Troop 500's more traditional
weekly meetings to their school's Junior troops monthly
meetings.  Next year it looks like we'll pick up a few more
girls from other schools and grow to 15-18.  

As of last night at our SU Meeting, I'll be one of two Co-SU
Managers.  I went to the meeting knowing that our current SUM
might be leaving and thinking that if we could find someone
else to take the job for 2 years I would after that. (I'm new
in town and wanted to get to know the town and SU a little
better)  I was hoping that my saying that I would do it in two
years would lead someone else to volunteer for now.  Well, it
didn't quite work out that way.

Sara, who finally found "guide+girl"
--
Sara Crawley                  Leader, Junior Troop 500
scraw...@acad.umass.edu       Troop Consultant
Western Mass GS Council       First Class 1977, Sooner Council

My name is Barb Scott.  I have two troops, a 2nd grade Brownie troop that is
very active...camping, service activities, Try-Its, etc., and a Daisy troop that
was a late bloomer (pardon the pun) this year.  Both troops are part of the Girl Scouts
of Lake Erie Council.  I'm always anxious to hear new ideas for troop activities.

Barbara Scott/bsco...@ibm.net
Cleveland, OH

  Neil Savage. Co-manager of a Service Unit that includes three seacoast
  New Hampshire towns - about 260 Girl Scouts from Brownies to Cadettes.
  Next year we hope to have a Daisy troop too.

  Also, trainer in basic leadership and outdoor skills courses.
  Consultant in 'aquatic' sciences - tidepooling, salt marsh, and
  pond life workshops.

  Direct "Discovery" programs on Father's Day weekend every year for
  the past eight years.  I've been a Girl Scout volunteer for ten years.

  Collector of "Songs for Scouts to Sing" and "More Songs for Scouts to
  Sing" (Archived on the internet).  Also collecting 'Scouts Own' material.

  For four years I co-lead a Cadette troop and have many fond memories.

In article <597cc$bd1a.1bb@NEWS>,
   "Brenda L. Groelz" <bgro...@mail.hamilton.net> wrote:

Hi!  My name is Duane Vore.  It's great to see this group show up.
"rec.scouting" means "Boy" scouting, and I got tired of wading
through Merit Badge arguements to glean the meager Girl Scout/Guide
postings.

I am the creator of the High Adventure program at Buckeye Trails
Council, and have been running it since 1991.  We're into things
like caving, rappelling, whitewater rafting, and the like, so
it involves older girls, typically sixth grade Juniors and up.  The
program has quite a few loyal followers, and some of them are
about ready to graduate into a leader role.

I'm also co-leader of a Senior troop, Council Trainer in outdoor
skills, and Program Consultant in outdoor skills, science, and
computers.

Anyone know if GSUSA has an e-mail address?

--Duane