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RichD

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Oct 22, 2012, 12:41:49 AM10/22/12
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I want to mix my own sport drink. Looking at the ingredients
of Gatorade, it's not too appetizing.

I'm thinking, half water, half orange juice. Then, salt, but how
many teaspoons, or grams, per liter? It should match the
body's salinity.

Also potassium, to replenish what's lost in perspiration.
That's why long distance runners eat bananas, I believe.
Can you get potassium in powder form, and what dosage
in the drink?

Other minerals?

--
Rich

Julie Bove

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Oct 22, 2012, 2:08:14 AM10/22/12
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There are countless recipes online. Let me get you one. Actually this link
even has one for OJ:

http://sportsgirlsplay.com/recipes-for-homemade-sports-drinks/


John H. Gohde

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Oct 22, 2012, 7:08:27 AM10/22/12
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Sports drinks are for stupid kiddies who think drinking that crap
makes them look cool. Come to think of it, ALL athletes are nothing
but a bunch of egotistical morons.

Julie Bove

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Oct 22, 2012, 7:58:42 AM10/22/12
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I wouldn't say "all" but I think quite a few would fall into that category.

I never let my daughter have Gatorade and I would always cringe when the Dr.
said that she needed it. Not all Drs. would say this but some were really
big on it. At least they did come out with G2. No high fructose corn syrup
in that. She currently drinks Propel but it is rare for her to finish a
bottle. She just takes it with her to dance classes. Mostly she drinks
water there. I think she thinks she needs it because most of the other kids
drink the stuff.


Christopher Helms

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Oct 22, 2012, 8:49:43 AM10/22/12
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On Oct 21, 11:41 pm, RichD <r_delaney2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I want  to mix my own sport drink.  Looking at the ingredients
> of Gatorade, it's not too appetizing.


Gatoraid isn't really a sports drink so much as a repackaging of Kool-
Aid. They tossed in a little salt and a meaningless amount of
potassium, repositioned it as a "sports drink," gave it to the NFL for
free and sold it to twentysomethings who got sweaty playing basketball
in the driveway for a dollar-fifty a bottle. Anything you make will
probably be better than Gatoraid. And better for you.

Dave Smith

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Oct 22, 2012, 9:13:34 AM10/22/12
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On 22/10/2012 7:08 AM, John H. Gohde wrote:

>
> Sports drinks are for stupid kiddies who think drinking that crap
> makes them look cool. Come to think of it, ALL athletes are nothing
> but a bunch of egotistical morons.
>


They appeal to people who think that sitting around drinking beer and
eating junk food while watching a sports event on television makes them
athletic.

John H. Gohde

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Oct 22, 2012, 10:26:06 AM10/22/12
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On Oct 22, 12:41 am, RichD <r_delaney2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I want  to mix my own sport drink.  Looking at the ingredients
> of Gatorade, it's not too appetizing.

No shit, Sherlock!

Brooklyn1

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Oct 22, 2012, 11:26:41 AM10/22/12
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Wrong!

Actually Gatorade is what they have you drink gallons of, with a
laxative, to clean out all your shit before a proctoscope exam.

Brooklyn1

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Oct 22, 2012, 11:32:41 AM10/22/12
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"John H. Gohde" wrote:
> RichD wrote:
>>
>> I want  to mix my own sport drink.  Looking at the ingredients
>> of Gatorade, it's not too appetizing.
>
>No shit, Sherlock!

Isn't "Gohde" the German for "Have a good shit".
Gohde... enjoy the go... Ach!

Joy Beeson

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Oct 23, 2012, 12:15:31 AM10/23/12
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 21:41:49 -0700 (PDT), RichD
<r_dela...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Also potassium, to replenish what's lost in perspiration.
> That's why long distance runners eat bananas,

Calorie for Calorie, oranges have more potassium than bananas do.

Fifty percent orange juice is probably too sweet -- depends on the
weather. I used to put a tablespoon of orange juice in a bike bottle
of water -- and carry a bottle of water wash it down with when it got
too strong for me.

--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net

Joy Beeson

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Oct 23, 2012, 12:16:44 AM10/23/12
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 21:41:49 -0700 (PDT), RichD
<r_dela...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Can you get potassium in powder form,

You can buy potassium chloride in any grocery store, right next to the
salt.

Heather

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Oct 23, 2012, 10:09:43 AM10/23/12
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> "RichD" <r_dela...@yahoo.com> wrote
> Can you get potassium in powder form, and what dosage
> in the drink?

For SUPPLEMENTAL potassium, you can get a pretty good idea
how to take potassium here: www.acu-cell.com/znk.html#k

It compares types of potassium, cost factor (grocery store
is cheapest), tablets vs bulk, and how to calculate elemental
amounts. Most people don't know that adults - depending on
their weight and activity - need close to 5,000 mg of potassium
a day (the RDA is further down on the page).

As pointed out by someone else though, if tolerated, orange
juice is probably the best bet considering taste, and its high
potassium content compared to other sources.
But if you lose a lot of sodium or other minerals through sweating,
you will need to replace them too.




John H. Gohde

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Oct 23, 2012, 10:54:33 AM10/23/12
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On Oct 23, 10:08 am, "Heather" <heath...@not.home.net> wrote:
> > "RichD" <r_delaney2...@yahoo.com> wrote
Athletes are basically insane people who accordingly drink sport
drinks so that they can do insane things, because they are just
fundamentally crazy. :(

Of all the supplements, potassium supplementation is the most insane
thing to do since it is it is in virtually all foods. What is NEXT?
Frequenting an oxygen bar?

Athletes are insane in the membrane.

Doug Freese

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Oct 24, 2012, 2:21:16 PM10/24/12
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"John H. Gohde" wrote in message
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On Oct 23, 10:08 am, "Heather" <heath...@not.home.net> wrote:
> > "RichD" <r_delaney2...@yahoo.com> wrote
> > Can you get potassium in powder form, and what dosage
> > in the drink?
>
> For SUPPLEMENTAL potassium, you can get a pretty good idea
> how to take potassium here:www.acu-cell.com/znk.html#k
>
> It compares types of potassium, cost factor (grocery store
> is cheapest), tablets vs bulk, and how to calculate elemental
> amounts. Most people don't know that adults - depending on
> their weight and activity - need close to 5,000 mg of potassium
> a day (the RDA is further down on the page).
>
> As pointed out by someone else though, if tolerated, orange
> juice is probably the best bet considering taste, and its high
> potassium content compared to other sources.
> But if you lose a lot of sodium or other minerals through sweating,
> you will need to replace them too.


##Athletes are basically insane people who accordingly drink sport
drinks so that they can do insane things, because they are just
fundamentally crazy. :(

Of all the supplements, potassium supplementation is the most insane
thing to do since it is it is in virtually all foods. What is NEXT?
Frequenting an oxygen bar?

Athletes are insane in the membrane.##


Are you an asshole in real life or just play one on the internet! You
sound like a forth grader with internet access.

-D

John H. Gohde

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Oct 24, 2012, 4:36:44 PM10/24/12
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On Oct 24, 2:21 pm, "Doug Freese" <dfre...@hvc.rr.com> wrote:
> "John H. Gohde"  wrote in messagenews:1ad3b4c8-23e3-4385...@o5g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
drinks so that they can do insane things, because they think that the
physical laws of the universe do NOT apply to them. :(

Electrolytes my ass! Of all the supplements, potassium
supplementation is the most insane thing to do since it is it is in
virtually all foods. What is NEXT? Frequenting an oxygen bar?

Athletes are insane in the membrane.

Go back to your coma, Cretin.

Read what I had posted, again. It is shocking just how stupid YOU
truly are!

No one cares about the self-centered, moronic comments of an absolute
nobody who is a few beers short of a six pack.

Bart Mathias

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Oct 24, 2012, 9:30:03 PM10/24/12
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:36:44 -0700 (PDT)
"John H. Gohde" <john.h...@gmail.com> wrote:

> [...]
> No one cares about the self-centered, moronic comments of an absolute
> nobody who is a few beers short of a six pack.

I agree. Your definition of "A Troll" doesn't sound so far off either.

I'll skip any Gohde posts from now on, but so far they were mildly amusing in
a weird way.
--
Bart Mathias <mat...@hawaii.edu>

Syamu Mamilla MAMILLa

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Oct 25, 2012, 1:22:46 AM10/25/12
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John H. Gohde

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Oct 26, 2012, 3:42:18 PM10/26/12
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> > On Oct 23, 10:08 am, "Heather" <heath...@not.home.net> wrote:
>
> > > > "RichD" <r_delaney2...@yahoo.com> wrote
> > > > Can you get potassium in powder form, and what dosage
> > > > in the drink?
>
> > > For SUPPLEMENTAL potassium, you can get a pretty good idea
> > > how to take potassium here:www.acu-cell.com/znk.html#k
>
> > > It compares types of potassium, cost factor (grocery store
> > > is cheapest), tablets vs bulk, and how to calculate elemental
> > > amounts.  Most people don't know that adults - depending on
> > > their weight and activity - need close to 5,000 mg of potassium
> > > a day (the RDA is further down on the page).
>
> > > As pointed out by someone else though, if tolerated, orange
> > > juice is probably the best bet considering taste, and its high
> > > potassium content compared to other sources.
> > > But if you lose a lot of sodium or other minerals through sweating,
> > > you will need to replace them too.
>
> > Athletes are basically insane people who accordingly drink sport
> > drinks so that they can do insane things, because they are just
> > fundamentally crazy.  :(

My overall accessment of the situation is called a CONCLUSION

John H. Gohde

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Oct 26, 2012, 4:05:31 PM10/26/12
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> > On Oct 23, 10:08 am, "Heather" <heath...@not.home.net> wrote:
>
> > > > "RichD" <r_delaney2...@yahoo.com> wrote
> > > > Can you get potassium in powder form, and what dosage
> > > > in the drink?
>
> > > For SUPPLEMENTAL potassium, you can get a pretty good idea
> > > how to take potassium here:www.acu-cell.com/znk.html#k
>
> > > It compares types of potassium, cost factor (grocery store
> > > is cheapest), tablets vs bulk, and how to calculate elemental
> > > amounts.  Most people don't know that adults - depending on
> > > their weight and activity - need close to 5,000 mg of potassium
> > > a day (the RDA is further down on the page).
>
> > > As pointed out by someone else though, if tolerated, orange
> > > juice is probably the best bet considering taste, and its high
> > > potassium content compared to other sources.
> > > But if you lose a lot of sodium or other minerals through sweating,
> > > you will need to replace them too.
>
> Athletes are basically insane people who accordingly drink sport
> drinks so that they can do insane things, because they think that the
> physical laws of the universe do NOT apply to them.  :(


For the benefit of the mentally challenged Science Psychos.

My assessment of the situation is called a CONCLUSION, which is in
fact undeniably correct!

My brilliant rational can be specified as follows.

-----
Multiple research teams have investigated sports drinks since the
mid-1990s. In general, ingesting 30 to 60 grams carbohydrate during
each hour of running, cycling, or similar aerobic exercise keeps the
blood glucose higher when compared to no-carbohydrate conditions,
lowers blood levels of stress hormones such as cortisol and
epinephrine, and as a result, is thought to lower post-exercise immune
inflammatory responses.

Nonetheless, consumption of carbohydrates in the form of sports drinks
during exercise does not protect against the transient decrease in
immune function that is experienced by athletes after long exercise
bouts that are greater than 90 minutes in duration.
-----

Ergo, rational people exercise ONLY at moderate levels which results
in a classical "J" curve health response, whereas insane athletes
engage in a "S" curve which creates a window of opportunity for elite
clowns to contract opportunistic upper respiratory tract
infections and serious communicable diseases, such as pneumonia.

All educated people agree on this, even if insane athletes are totally
clueless as to the end result of their insanity.

John Hurley

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Oct 27, 2012, 9:34:18 PM10/27/12
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John H:

# Come to think of it, ALL athletes are nothing but a bunch of
egotistical morons.

Well I am definitely an egotistical moron but not so much of an
athlete.

How about you?

John H. Gohde

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Oct 28, 2012, 6:42:50 AM10/28/12
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How about me? How about reading what I had posted, again.

John Hurley

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Oct 28, 2012, 5:43:00 PM10/28/12
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Mr. Ego:

# How about me? How about reading what I had posted, again.

... Ah so ... from one egotistical moron to another ... its all in the
family!

John H. Gohde

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Oct 28, 2012, 9:39:40 PM10/28/12
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This one is made for you.

http://tinyurl.com/9bj38k7

Tommy Joe

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Oct 29, 2012, 3:17:50 AM10/29/12
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On Oct 22, 7:08 am, "John H. Gohde" <john.h.go...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sports drinks are for stupid kiddies who think drinking that crap
> makes them look cool.  Come to think of it, ALL athletes are nothing
> but a bunch of egotistical morons.



LOL, the "come to think of it" part..............

TJ

SMS

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Oct 30, 2012, 12:41:28 PM10/30/12
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No way you'd save money over the powdered Gatorade. A can of powder that
makes 36 quarts of Gatorade sells for $11.19 at Costco, or about 31¢/quart.

Remember, that Gatorade was developed by researchers at one of the
finest universities in the world--you're not going to be able to
duplicate Dr. Cade's work in your kitchen. Companies and individuals
have been trying to duplicate Gatorade for decades, without success.

<http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/28/business/28cade.html?_r=0>

Go Gators.

John H. Gohde

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Oct 30, 2012, 1:17:15 PM10/30/12
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The devil is in the details.

Pepsi bought Gatorade, end of story. You have my condolences. :(

David Harmon

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Oct 30, 2012, 10:59:40 PM10/30/12
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On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 09:41:28 -0700 in rec.food.cooking, SMS
<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote,
>Remember, that Gatorade was developed by researchers at one of the
>finest universities in the world--you're not going to be able to
>duplicate Dr. Cade's work in your kitchen.

Gatorade is nothing more than Kool-ade mixed with brackish water.

Existential Angst

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Nov 21, 2012, 7:12:52 PM11/21/12
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"John H. Gohde" <john.h...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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===============================================

As was pointed out, the RDA for potas is 4700 mg, and the RDA for sodium is
1500 mg, for a ratio of 3:1.
What many people -- perhaps even MOST people -- consume instead is 4700 mg
of sodium and 1500 mg of potassium.

So potassium supp -- assuming the RDA is in fact a realistic assessment --
makes sense for many, perhaps most people. The fact that "potassium is in
every food" doesn't mean that *enough* potassium is in every food, depending
of course on what foods you are eating.
You could say the same for calcium, or a dozen other nutrients, incl
protein. A typical Gohde mis-interpreteation of nutrition, science, basic
logic.

There is some logic to Gatorade, in some circumstances, altho the product
itself is basically a heavily marketed conjob.
But as someone pointed, cheap enough, compared to virtually any drink you
can buy at the corner store.

Electrolytes are only an issue for heavy endurance and/or heavy exposure to
heat.
*How* you reintroduce them is inneresting tho, from an osmotic pov --
Warning -- this is way over Gohde'shead...
The experimentation that Gatorade likely did -- of course at the finest
universities in the world of course -- was to find the optimal *osmotic
balance*.

If you drink pure water in a state of electrolyte stress/depletion,
re-hydration certainly occurs, but also the few electrolytes floating around
in the body are temporarily sucked in to the intestines -- at least in
theory -- making things temporarily worse.

If you drink heavily salted water in a state of dehydration, you can
temporarily worsen the dehydration thru the same osmotic process, except now
you are sucking WATER into the gut (out of the body) -- which is why you
can't drink seawater if you are lost on a raft.

All in all, a kind of non-issue, as someone pointed at that Gatorade and all
that other crap is just koolaid with a salt pill thrown in. You'd do just
as well drinking water and eating an orange, or a french fry. All in all,
much ado about not much.

Gatorade is like Starfuck$ -- half the reason assholes buy Starfuck$ is so
they can walk around with the coffee cup, *label out*.... esp. in Japan.
I'm surprised Nike dudn't have a sports drink.... the more the merrier.

Mountain Dew/Jolt woulda proly had an even more positive effect on
dehydrated football teams.... caffeine, donchaknow.... LOL
--
EA




John H. Gohde

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Nov 21, 2012, 10:10:50 PM11/21/12
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On Nov 21, 7:12 pm, "Existential Angst" <fit...@optonline.net> wrote:
> "John H. Gohde" <john.h.go...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1ad3b4c8-23e3-4385...@o5g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
It's funny how readily you choose to make a fool of yourself by
spouting forth on things you know nothing about.

The time limit for responding to posts in this THREAD has obviously
expired.

Go back to your coma, Science Psycho.

Read what I had posted, again. It is Thanksgiving, You Dolt!

Existential Angst

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Nov 22, 2012, 1:46:58 PM11/22/12
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"John H. Gohde" <john.h...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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===============================================

Feel free to correct any errors I made.

Translation from Gohde-speak:
I (Gohde) don't know basic science, ergo I must attack anyone who does.

Ackshooly, most of the above is common medical/chemical knowledge. Only a
true ilitirit would think otherwise.
And funny, Gohde is so knee-jerk sociopathic, he doesn't realize we
basically agree, altho the rational basis for his beliefs is a bit off....
as usual.

Gatorade is but another example of an inferior to middling product, hyped up
by skilled marketing into mega-sales.







The time limit for responding to posts in this THREAD has obviously
expired.
Go back to your coma, Science Psycho.
Read what I had posted, again. It is Thanksgiving, You Dolt!
=====================================================

Time limit? ayfkm?????

And.... why would anyone want to read what you posted even once, much less
twice.... you are little more than a paranoid/hysterical igneranus.
The only value your posts have is a pedagogic one, as in, Find/Count the
errors in Gohde's latest confabulation.
--
EA





John H. Gohde

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Nov 23, 2012, 7:50:07 AM11/23/12
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On Nov 22, 1:47 pm, "Existential Angst" <fit...@optonline.net> wrote:
> "John H. Gohde" <john.h.go...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:91dd9834-9c78-4367...@o8g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> > protein. A typical ... mis-interpreteation of nutrition, science, basic
> Translation from speak:
>     I don't know basic science, ergo I must attack anyone who does.
>
> Ackshooly, most of the above is common medical/chemical knowledge.  Only a
> true ilitirit would think otherwise.
> And funny, ... is so knee-jerk sociopathic, he doesn't realize we
> basically agree, altho the rational basis for his beliefs is a bit off....
> as usual.
>
> Gatorade is but another example of an inferior to middling product, hyped up
> by skilled marketing into mega-sales.
>
> The time limit for responding to posts in this THREAD has obviously
> expired.
> Go back to your coma, Science Psycho.
> Read what I had posted, again.  It is Thanksgiving, You Dolt!
> =====================================================
>
> Time limit?  ayfkm?????
>
> And....   why would anyone want to read what you posted even once, much less
> twice....  you are little more than a paranoid/hysterical igneranus.
> The only value your posts have is a pedagogic one, as in, Find/Count the
> errors in ... latest confabulation.


We now know that YOU do NOT have a life. :)

Read what I had posted, again. It is shocking just how stupid YOU
truly are, Geek!

Existential Angst

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Nov 23, 2012, 12:13:53 PM11/23/12
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"John H. Gohde" <john.h...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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=====================================================

<yawn> <stretch> <scratch my balls>
Oh, that's right, you could NOT respond factually or rationally to my
points.... ok.....
<yawn> <stretch> <scratch my balls>
--
EA



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