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Ken

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:52:02 PM1/4/10
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Is it to be winner: for the trophies, the laurels glimmering from afar?
Is it to celebrate myself and my own achievements? Is it so that I can
kiss myself in the mirror? Is it about wrenching from the hand of the
almighty, more of the gift that he has already given me? Is it to be
fit, strong, healthy, tough, or beautiful? Is it so that I can complete
a tick sheet? Is it about running away with myself or from myself, and
trying not to carry myself with me? Do I run in order to pause? Is it to
bury the rootless hopes and fruitless desires of the old year, and to
make way for the coming spring? Is it to hear the tales of other runners
and to have tales to tell of my own? Is it to feel half dead yet never
more alive? Is it to find kinship with the stars? Is it about missing my
own goals in order to help a struggling companion? Is it to touch the
hand of a disabled child as she cheers me on from her wheelchair? Do I
run simply because I can? So why do I run?
--
Ken

Michelle

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Jan 4, 2010, 2:15:19 PM1/4/10
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In article <OaaQLMES...@dasha.demon.co.uk>,
Ken <K...@dasha.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> So why do I run?

All of the above.

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26.2 Because I can

Paul Rudin

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Jan 4, 2010, 2:14:07 PM1/4/10
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Ken <K...@dasha.demon.co.uk> writes:


> Is it....

To keep reasonably fit and healthy and (reasonably) slim, and to have a
bit if a challenge. I work for myself mostly at home these days, and I
need to something to get me out of the door every day. If I don't do any
exercise I feel myself getting a bit down... I wouldn't go as far as to
say depressed, but certainly I'm happier when I take regular exercise.

Edward Edmonds

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Jan 4, 2010, 2:58:37 PM1/4/10
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I run because it has been the only thing I've felt satisfaction from. I
run because it inspires people, I used to think you have to be a super
athlete to inspire people, but I've found that just being out there
inspires people. I run because I enjoy seeing other runners who are out
there w/ me in the freezing cold, carving out their own paths in life. I
run because it's the only thing that brings order to my own personal
universe. I run because it helps me to forget how fast time goes by and
how numbered our days are and how little time we have to cherish our
blessings, it helps me to slow down and understand the universe. I run
because at night when it's 10 degrees out and the only thing I have is the
stars to light my path I feel the presence of my creator. I run because
just when I'm about to get frustrated w/ someone I stop and forgive them
because I'm so worn out I don't have the willpower to argue w/ them. I
run because it helps me to see reality as it is, to see people for who
they really are, and to run past the people who put constant stumbling
blocks in front of me for the sake of their amusement. I run because I'm
dumb, and I don't know how to do much else. I run to justify my
existence, to satisfy my hunger for reaching unreachable goals. I run
because I know I'll never be the best, so I'll always have something to
work on. I run because I can't sit still. I run because it's the only
thing keeping me "alive". E**2

Doug Freese

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Jan 4, 2010, 6:14:59 PM1/4/10
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"Ken" <K...@dasha.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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How long did it take you to put this collage together? :)


Running provides good health and great friendship. With the exception of
the wheechair metaphore the rest is a yawner.

-D


John Hurley

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Jan 4, 2010, 7:24:22 PM1/4/10
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On Jan 4, 1:52 pm, Ken <K...@dasha.demon.co.uk> wrote:

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> Is it to celebrate myself and my own achievements? Is it so that I can
> kiss myself in the mirror?

What about getting extra free samples from the local methadone
clinic?

Brian Howie

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Jan 5, 2010, 3:18:12 AM1/5/10
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In message <OaaQLMES...@dasha.demon.co.uk>, Ken
<K...@dasha.demon.co.uk> writes

To fend off middle age - it didn't work

B
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Brian Howie

Paul Rudin

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Jan 5, 2010, 3:55:59 AM1/5/10
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Brian Howie <br...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes:


>
> To fend off middle age - it didn't work
>


It's all relative. You can't avoid middle age altogether - but regular
running will mean that you're in much better shape than many of your
contemporaries.

John Hurley

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Jan 5, 2010, 7:36:54 AM1/5/10
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On Jan 5, 3:18 am, Brian Howie <br...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:

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# To fend off middle age - it didn't work

More mileage! Run faster!

Depending on who shows up in local races I am still doing a reasonable
job of beating up on the under 50 crowd.

The under 30 population specifically ( at least in the US ) seems to
be slowing down a remarkable amount.


rick++

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Jan 5, 2010, 12:29:48 PM1/5/10
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I was born that way - about four million years
of genetics according to last years ape fossil
discovery.

Doug Freese

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Jan 5, 2010, 1:19:41 PM1/5/10
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"rick++" <ric...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I was born that way - about four million years
> of genetics according to last years ape fossil
> discovery.

Rick, do you think we can still run down our food? :)

-Doug


John Hurley

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Jan 5, 2010, 2:44:59 PM1/5/10
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On Jan 5, 1:19 pm, "Doug Freese" <dfre...@hvc.rr.com> wrote:

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# Rick, do you think we can still run down our food? :)

AFAIK this whole run down the prey myth has little or no credible
evidence ...

Charlie Pendejo

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Jan 5, 2010, 3:46:31 PM1/5/10
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JBH:

> AFAIK this whole run down the prey myth has little or no credible
> evidence ...

Especially if you ignore those who still do it, like the Kalahari
bushmen.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=persistence+hunting

DC

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Jan 5, 2010, 4:06:57 PM1/5/10
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Would David Attenborough of the BBC lie?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUpo_mA5RP8

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_hunting

http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/krigbaum/proseminar/Bramble_Leib_2004_nature.pdf

"...Judged by several criteria, humans perform remarkably well at
endurance running [ER], thanks to a diverse array of features, many of
which leave traces in the skeleton. The fossil evidence of these
features suggests that endurance running is a derived capability of the
genus Homo, originating about 2 million years ago, and may have been
instrumental in the evolution of the human body form.
...
Today, ER is primarily a form of exercise and recreation, but its roots
may be as ancient as the origin of the human genus, and its demands a
major contributing factor to the human body form."

Doug Freese

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Jan 5, 2010, 8:13:48 PM1/5/10
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"John Hurley" <johnb...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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snip

Tell that to the opossum I have in my garage.

-D


Parker Race

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Jan 6, 2010, 8:28:30 AM1/6/10
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"Doug Freese" <dfr...@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
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: "John Hurley" <johnb...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

I've managed to run down my daughter's hamster every time it has escaped,
thankfully I don't need to eat it to survive.


Doug Freese

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Jan 6, 2010, 10:13:15 AM1/6/10
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"Parker Race" <parke...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Some cultures eat them. It's said they taste like chicken.

-D


Parker Race

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Jan 6, 2010, 10:47:36 AM1/6/10
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"Doug Freese" <dfr...@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
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: "Parker Race" <parke...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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What doesn't taste like chicken?
Kudos on finsihing the 50k on Sunday.
I was very happy doing my 10 on sheltered trails.


Michelle

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Jan 6, 2010, 11:13:28 AM1/6/10
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In article <hi2bap$qva$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Parker Race" <parke...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What doesn't taste like chicken?

Turkey.

Charlie Pendejo

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Jan 6, 2010, 12:13:00 PM1/6/10
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Parker:

> What doesn't taste like chicken?

Durian.

Parker Race

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Jan 6, 2010, 3:24:57 PM1/6/10
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"Charlie Pendejo" <charlie...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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: Parker:

: > What doesn't taste like chicken?
:
: Durian.

Ha ve you personally had the pleasure or displeasure? Sounds like a YMMV
food.


Charlie Pendejo

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Jan 6, 2010, 4:33:03 PM1/6/10
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Parker:
>>> What doesn't taste like chicken?

pendejo:
>> Durian.

Parker:
> Have you personally had the pleasure or displeasure?

Yes. First heard of it and tried it on the same evening, in about
'87, when a friend's father brought some back from his trip somewhere
in east Asia. It immediately went to the head of my disgusting foods
list. We tried it plain, then blended with milk, to which we then
added ice cream and rum; nothing came close to taming the bouquet of
locker-room-meets-open-sewer.

Then at the start of '06 I made it my new year's resolution to acquire
a taste for durian. By then it was one of only two foods I don't
like, the other being natto, a Japanese fermented soy product which'd
more accurately be translated "snotto".

Anyhow, my durian training - I built up with milder flavored products
like ice cream and candy, to stronger like pastries and shakes - was a
glorious success, and I'm now a big fan. The hell if I'll try natto
again, though.


> Sounds like a YMMV food.

No sir; everyone agrees that it tastes nothing like chicken. ;-)

rick++

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Jan 6, 2010, 6:04:32 PM1/6/10
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On Jan 5, 11:19 am, "Doug Freese" <dfre...@hvc.rr.com> wrote:

> Rick, do you think we can still run down our food? :)

Probably.
The resent bestseller Born to Run discuses this.
However, I heard the author speak and didnt believe
his stories about Mexican Indians.

Miss Anne Thrope

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Jan 7, 2010, 9:32:31 AM1/7/10
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I suspect you've been running ever since that first encounter with the
schoolyard bully.

What was her name again?

Tony S.

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Jan 7, 2010, 10:12:15 AM1/7/10
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"Ken" <K...@dasha.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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I run because it's a challenging way to stay fit, and it gives the most
honest feedback to me about my overall health and fitness of any form of
exercise I've tried. With even intermediate running fitness, I get a
sense of bodily freedom and power that is just plain fun to have.
Running also takes discipline and tends to create healthy habits around
it. For example, in order to keep running almost every day, I tend to
make sure I get enough sleep, and eat somewhat more properly, and
maintain some flexibility.

-Tony


Bill

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Jan 16, 2010, 12:00:42 PM1/16/10
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"Ken" <K...@dasha.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Before a run I'm stiff and in pain. After a run I'm stiff and in pain. What
I'm addicted to is during a run I feel like a high performance machine being
test driven. I still feel like an athlete while in that zone. I want that
feeling every day. Then I can enjoy my stiffness and pain.


John Hurley

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Jan 16, 2010, 3:22:03 PM1/16/10
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On Jan 16, 12:00 pm, "Bill" <upnrunn...@earthlink.net> wrote:

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> Before a run I'm stiff and in pain. After a run I'm stiff and in pain. What
> I'm addicted to is during a run I feel like a high performance machine being
> test driven. I still feel like an athlete while in that zone. I want that
> feeling every day. Then I can enjoy my stiffness and pain.

How old are you?

That does not sound anything like a normal condition for a runner at
least to me.

Bill

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"John Hurley" <johnb...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

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How old are you?


I'm 50. Im only stiff if I have been sitting a while. I loosen right up in a
few steps. I jokingly over complain. I actually feel pretty good.


Tim Daneliuk

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Jan 16, 2010, 6:28:17 PM1/16/10
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On 1/4/2010 12:52 PM, Ken wrote:
> Is it to be winner: for the trophies, the laurels glimmering from afar?
> Is it to celebrate myself and my own achievements? Is it so that I can
> kiss myself in the mirror? Is it about wrenching from the hand of the
> almighty, more of the gift that he has already given me? Is it to be
> fit, strong, healthy, tough, or beautiful? Is it so that I can complete
> a tick sheet? Is it about running away with myself or from myself, and
> trying not to carry myself with me? Do I run in order to pause? Is it to
> bury the rootless hopes and fruitless desires of the old year, and to
> make way for the coming spring? Is it to hear the tales of other runners
> and to have tales to tell of my own? Is it to feel half dead yet never
> more alive? Is it to find kinship with the stars? Is it about missing my
> own goals in order to help a struggling companion? Is it to touch the
> hand of a disabled child as she cheers me on from her wheelchair? Do I
> run simply because I can? So why do I run?

To get away from the cops :P

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rick++

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Jan 17, 2010, 2:32:43 PM1/17/10
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On Jan 16, 10:00 am, "Bill" <upnrunn...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Before a run I'm stiff and in pain. After a run I'm stiff and in pain.

Something is very wrong then.

Message has been deleted

Simon Chapman

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Jan 20, 2010, 4:43:40 AM1/20/10
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To: Ken
Ken wrote:

> So why do I run?

Because until you run, you'll never know how far you can walk.

:)

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Doug Freese

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Jan 20, 2010, 7:27:11 AM1/20/10
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"Simon Chapman" <simon....@thecurio.servebbs.com.remove-w34-this>
wrote in message news:4B56D070.357...@thecurio.servebbs.com...

> To: Ken
> Ken wrote:
>
>> So why do I run?
>
> Because until you run, you'll never know how far you can walk.
>
> :)

This must be British humor. :)

-Doug


Tim Daneliuk

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Jan 20, 2010, 9:25:57 AM1/20/10
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On 1/20/2010 3:43 AM, Simon Chapman wrote:
> To: Ken
> Ken wrote:
>
>> So why do I run?
>
> Because until you run, you'll never know how far you can walk.
>
> :)
>

Or on Pub Night ... crawl.

Simon Chapman

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Jan 22, 2010, 5:06:39 AM1/22/10
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To: Doug Freese

Doug Freese wrote:
>
> This must be British humor. :)
>

Heh. Indeed!

Like Earl Grey tea, it's an acquired taste :)

Doug Freese

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Jan 22, 2010, 7:35:33 AM1/22/10
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"Simon Chapman" <simon....@thecurio.servebbs.com.remove-nk-this>
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> To: Doug Freese
> Doug Freese wrote:
>>
>> This must be British humor. :)
>>
>
> Heh. Indeed!
>
> Like Earl Grey tea, it's an acquired taste :)

And Guinness Stout? I have already acquired both Earl and Guinness but
it's my two Bristish dirtbag friends that still use some very back home
expressions. . :)

-D


Paul Rudin

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Jan 22, 2010, 7:55:39 AM1/22/10
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"Doug Freese" <dfr...@hvc.rr.com> writes:

Guinness comes from Ireland, I doubt that the residents of that country
would thank you for confusing them with Brits!

Simon Chapman

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Jan 22, 2010, 12:18:50 PM1/22/10
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To: Paul Rudin
Paul Rudin wrote:

>> And Guinness Stout? I have already acquired both Earl and Guinness but
>> it's my two Bristish dirtbag friends that still use some very back home
>> expressions. . :)
>
> Guinness comes from Ireland, I doubt that the residents of that country
> would thank you for confusing them with Brits!

Indeed it does, originally. I think it's brewed all over the world these
days though.

Guinness is an amazing drink. A mixture of burnt toast and liquorice,
some say.

One is too many, and three is not enough :)

John Hurley

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Jan 22, 2010, 2:14:42 PM1/22/10
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On Jan 22, 12:18 pm, "Simon Chapman"
<simon.chap...@thecurio.servebbs.com.remove-12ev-this> wrote:

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# Guinness is an amazing drink. A mixture of burnt toast and liquorice
some say.

Nothing wrong with Guinness but there is little love between the Irish
and the brutes on the other island.

My ancestors were terrorized for centuries with no good reason except
that they could get away doing it.


Edward Edmonds

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Jan 22, 2010, 4:12:36 PM1/22/10
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:18:50 +0100, Simon Chapman
<simon....@thecurio.servebbs.com.remove-12ev-this> wrote:

> To: Paul Rudin
> Paul Rudin wrote:
>
>>> And Guinness Stout? I have already acquired both Earl and Guinness but
>>> it's my two Bristish dirtbag friends that still use some very back
>>> home expressions. . :)
>> Guinness comes from Ireland, I doubt that the residents of that country
>> would thank you for confusing them with Brits!
>
> Indeed it does, originally. I think it's brewed all over the world these
> days though.
>
> Guinness is an amazing drink. A mixture of burnt toast and liquorice,
> some say.

I love Guinness.

Ken

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Jan 23, 2010, 1:06:02 PM1/23/10
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In article
<13ccdfba-cc28-42df...@m25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
John Hurley <johnb...@sbcglobal.net> writes

>
>
To describe the British as brutes on a British bashed newsgroup sounds
rather like flaming. Since I started this news thread could I kindly ask
you to moderate your invective. This isn't the first time you have
treated us to your political opinions. Could you find a more appropriate
news group.

For your information I have competed against Irish runners, both in
Ireland and in the UK, and I have found them to be as friendly as any
other nationality.

--
Ken

Michelle

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Jan 23, 2010, 2:09:04 PM1/23/10
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In article <YvNMP4FK...@dasha.demon.co.uk>,
Ken <K...@dasha.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> To describe the British as brutes on a British bashed newsgroup sounds
> rather like flaming. Since I started this news thread could I kindly ask
> you to moderate your invective. This isn't the first time you have
> treated us to your political opinions. Could you find a more appropriate
> news group.

When you started this thread, you crossposted it to rec.running as well as
uk.rec.running. Many of us responding to the thread do not read the uk
newsgroup, and so far as we're concerned, we're posting it to rec.running.
In fact, I didn't even notice that uk.rec.running was included in the
headers until you mentioned it just now, and I suspect that many others of
us didn't notice it either.

I'm in no way defending JBH or his opinions, nor am I condemning them. I'm
merely pointing out the facts of the newsgroups involved. But he does have
a point about the treatment of the Irish by the British, despite his choice
of vocabulary.

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