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mamoosh

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Feb 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/20/00
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I recall when the artwork for MF was first released there was some confusion
concerning MF and if the ride will have a few air-time inducing bunny hops
at the end of the ride. If you check out the pics at
www.popworld.com/dan go to the Millennium Force picture gallery and click on
the top left thumbnail you will see one pic of the last 1000 feet or so of
MF trackage in place. No bunny hops whatsoever, just flat track, an
overbanked U-turn, and the brake run. And that U-turn seems pretty high,
there's going to be a lot of speed coming into those final brakes.

Please keep in mind this is merely an observation and NOT a complaint. I
leave the complaining to others.

Matthew
[who is still amazed at MF and can't wait to ride it]


Conner Purcell

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Feb 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/20/00
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Actually, if you look at:

http://www.popworld.com/dan/images/mf062.jpg

...You can see a TINY little ramp thing. I would hardly call this a bunnyhop,
but it might produce something interesting.


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Sean Flaharty

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Feb 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/20/00
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Actually, that is not true. There is one bunny hop after the tunnel,
before hitting the final over banked turn. The bunny hop is located behind
the trees in the picture you have mentioned.


If you look closely at this picture,


http://www.popworld.com/dan/images/mf063.jpg

you can see the very start of the bunny hop at the bottom right hand corner
of the picture.

The bunny hop will be start just as the turn out of the tunnel is
completed. Also, as soon as the bunny hop is over, the train will make a
pretty severe banked turn before hitting the last over banked turn.

Sean

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mamoosh

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Feb 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/20/00
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Conner Purcell wrote in message
<20000220162816...@ng-de1.aol.com>...

>Actually, if you look at:
>
>http://www.popworld.com/dan/images/mf062.jpg
>
>...You can see a TINY little ramp thing. I would hardly call this a
bunnyhop,
>but it might produce something interesting.


Yep, you're right, there does seem to be a small hill there. I guess from
the angle of the pic I saw, it wasn't evident. Thanks for pointing that
out, Conner. If you look at the shadow on the snow, it does seem to be more
that just "a ramp."

Hoping for the best.....

Matthew

Jon Smith

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Feb 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/20/00
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mamoosh recently noted an observation...

>I recall when the artwork for MF was first released there was some
confusion
>concerning MF and if the ride will have a few air-time inducing bunny hops
>at the end of the ride.

Well, I for one thought that this was all cleared up, but I can easily
understand why there could still be confusion. If you don't look close
enough at the artwork, it's really easy to miss the it. There is going to
be one bunny hop before the last high banked turnaround. It may not be the
biggest bunny hop, but it should "eject" the riders off their seats in a
pleasing manner :-) Take a look at one of Dan's pics:
http://www.popworld.com/dan/images/mf062.jpg . From this picture, you'll be
able to clearly see the bunny hop I'm talking about. It's going to be a
very long gradual camelback, but I'm guessing that the train will still be
going pretty fast. There should be some nice airtime here for sure!

>No bunny hops whatsoever, just flat track, an
>overbanked U-turn, and the brake run. And that U-turn seems pretty high,
>there's going to be a lot of speed coming into those final brakes.


Don't forget that the camelback before the tunnel could provide some nice
airtime too! Not to mention the first drop and possibly the third hill!

>Matthew
>[who is still amazed at MF and can't wait to ride it]


It's going to be a great year!

-Jon Smith

"See ya in the back"

Smith...@osu.edu


Wolf

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Feb 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/20/00
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> I recall when the artwork for MF was first released there was some
confusion
> concerning MF and if the ride will have a few air-time inducing bunny hops
> at the end of the ride. If you check out the pics at
> www.popworld.com/dan go to the Millennium Force picture gallery and click
on
> the top left thumbnail you will see one pic of the last 1000 feet or so of
> MF trackage in place. No bunny hops whatsoever, just flat track, an

> overbanked U-turn, and the brake run. And that U-turn seems pretty high,
> there's going to be a lot of speed coming into those final brakes.
>
> Please keep in mind this is merely an observation and NOT a complaint. I
> leave the complaining to others.
Actually, it looks like there is one. Parallel to the station...

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Jeff 'Jones' Putz

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Feb 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/22/00
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In article <kIYr4.4291$TM2....@dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net>,

"mamoosh" <mproduct...@gte.net> wrote:
> I recall when the artwork for MF was first released there was some confusion
> concerning MF and if the ride will have a few air-time inducing bunny hops
> at the end of the ride. If you check out the pics at
> www.popworld.com/dan go to the Millennium Force picture gallery and click on
> the top left thumbnail you will see one pic of the last 1000 feet or so of
> MF trackage in place. No bunny hops whatsoever, just flat track, an
> overbanked U-turn, and the brake run. And that U-turn seems pretty high,
> there's going to be a lot of speed coming into those final brakes.

There is a fairly decent rise that passes the load station very closely.
Keep in mind that the train will be flying at this point in the ride...
it just came off of a 60-foot hill and needs enough speed to complete
that last over-banked turn, which is also 60 feet tall.

When you consider the height of the hills that cross the lagoon compared
to the rest of the ride, I can assure you that those hills will pop you
fiercely. Some might argue otherwise, but I think air time is Millennium
Force's secret weapon that no on will be expecting.

The ride's strongest point, not its weakest, is the simplicity of the
layout. There's a certain elegance in raw speed and long turns that will
surprise people. That's my take, anyway.

-Jeff
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Bill Buckley

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Feb 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/22/00
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Jeff 'Jones' Putz (jeffy...@hotmail.com)
wrote:

>There is a fairly decent rise that passes the load station very closely.
>Keep in mind that the train will be flying at this point in the ride...
>it just came off of a 60-foot hill and needs enough speed to complete
>that last over-banked turn, which is also 60 feet tall.

This discussion is silly and pointless...but Jeff exclaims the most "sense' of
the RRC lot here.

While most are bitching there isn;t a SROS-style bunny hop -- realize that at
the speed the train will be heading into the final stretch on MF -- such a
profile would produce EXTREME negative forces -- far too much for any rider (I
think back to the glory days of La Montana Rusa when it had that HORRIBLE speed
hill on the cross-over section -- few people miss the sheer pain endured in
that section!!).

Once again, the train on MF will come screaming off the 3rd large hill as it
heads towards the 118-degree overbanked turn.
The train will hit the magnets (brakes) going about 55mph!

So - to answer the basic question - "will there be airtime on the 'ramp'?" The
short answer is YES. And if some people need a point of reference -- look
towards the "ramp" that is at the end of SFOT's Schwarzkopf "Shockwave" coaster
(the one before the final turn). Riders get a nice "pop" off this low-profile
hill -- and the train speed is no-where NEAR that which MF will be traveling!!

/b


Dwayne L. Allen

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Feb 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/26/00
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In Article <news:20000222132219...@ng-bk1.aol.com>,

Bill Buckley wrote:
>While most are bitching there isn;t a SROS-style bunny hop -- realize that
at
>the speed the train will be heading into the final stretch on MF -- such a
>profile would produce EXTREME negative forces -- far too much for any
rider (I
>think back to the glory days of La Montana Rusa when it had that HORRIBLE
speed
>hill on the cross-over section -- few people miss the sheer pain endured in
>that section!!).
>

Im pretty sadistic, so I would crave that if it was still like that. Sorry
I missed it. But Im a minority when it comes to voilent wood coaster rides
rides. Other factors rule out.

>Once again, the train on MF will come screaming off the 3rd large hill as
it
>heads towards the 118-degree overbanked turn.
>The train will hit the magnets (brakes) going about 55mph!
>
>So - to answer the basic question - "will there be airtime on the 'ramp'?"
The
>short answer is YES. And if some people need a point of reference -- look
>towards the "ramp" that is at the end of SFOT's Schwarzkopf "Shockwave"
coaster
>(the one before the final turn). Riders get a nice "pop" off this
low-profile
>hill -- and the train speed is no-where NEAR that which MF will be
traveling!!
>
>/b
>

To be honest, MF looks like it has alot of height and speed (which is
fine), but not as much airtime. Atleast not MAGNUM or even DESPERADO
airtime. We'll just have to wait and see how MF turns out.

Dwayne L. Allen
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Wolf

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Feb 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/26/00
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> Im pretty sadistic, so I would crave that if it was still like that.
Sorry
> I missed it. But Im a minority when it comes to voilent wood coaster
rides
> rides. Other factors rule out.
Just a peeve, here, but if you like riding violent coasters, you're
masochistic. If you like building them, you're sadistic.

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Locoboy

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Feb 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/26/00
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Wolf wrote:
>
> > Im pretty sadistic, so I would crave that if it was still like that.
> Sorry
> > I missed it. But Im a minority when it comes to voilent wood coaster
> rides
> > rides. Other factors rule out.
> Just a peeve, here, but if you like riding violent coasters, you're
> masochistic. If you like building them, you're sadistic.

Dwayne, you've got great taste in coasters! :-)

RSteven850

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Feb 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/29/00
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In article <88ugg3$7eo$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, Jeff 'Jones' Putz
<jeffy...@hotmail.com> writes:

>Some might argue otherwise, but I think air time is Millennium
>Force's secret weapon that no on will be expecting.

Don Meiers told me last summer that MF would not be an airtime machine, but
built primarily for speed. However, what I've experienced with S:ROS is
something else again! <g>

Roz
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XCALIBRMIKE

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Feb 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/29/00
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I wish everyone would realize that not all coasters are built for maximum
airtime. Millennium Force will be in a class by itself. It's got height,
length, speed, curves and G's. Let's not start already start whining that it
might not produce the best airtime. Go ride Magnum or Blue Streak for that.
Some are never satisfied.

James Moreland

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Mar 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/2/00
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Yeah.....What he said.......


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