New Coney Island to open after land deal
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district in New York City will be revived by next summer with some new
attractions, Mayor Michael Bloomberg and developer Joseph Sitt said
Thursday.
The city purchased 6.9 acres at the heart of Coney Island from Sitt's
Thor Equities for $95.6 million after years of tense negotiations, the
pair announced at a City Hall news conference.
The city plans to create a year-round destination that includes a 12
1/2-acre outdoor amusement park within a 27-acre amusement and
entertainment district.
The project also includes new restaurants, movie theaters, retail and
the city's first new roller coaster since the Cyclone was built in
1927. The plan also includes nearly 5,000 units of housing, including
900 units for low- and moderate-income families, officials said.
The project was expected to create more than 25,000 construction jobs
and 6,000 permanent jobs, city officials said.
"When tourists come to New York we want Coney Island to be on their
must-do list right next to Times Square and the Empire State
Building," Bloomberg said. "We're trying to find things in all five
boroughs to make sure the economic development that tourism brings is
shared by everybody."
Bloomberg said the cost of not buying the land was too steep and that
leaving the tract empty for another decade would have amounted to lost
jobs, tax revenues and housing.
All existing Coney Island businesses will remain through at least next
summer, Seth W. Pinsky, president of the city's Economic Development
Corp., said. After that, city officials will assess whether the
businesses fit into the new project.
During its decline, the amusement district has shrunk to just three
acres, the city said. Attractions were cleared to make way for a
resort that Sitt had envisioned, but his plan never materialized.
The city will begin soliciting proposals on Friday from potential
developers and operators for a "first-phase" on the portion of the
cite scheduled to open in summer 2010.
Later, the city will solicit proposals to find a permanent developer
for the amusement park. The city also plans to spend $150 million on
infrastructure and rebuilding sections of the Boardwalk and a new
Steeplechase Plaza, officials said.
NoGodForMe
> "When tourists come to New York we want Coney Island to be on their
> must-do list right next to Times Square and the Empire State
> Building," Bloomberg said. "We're trying to find things in all five
> boroughs to make sure the economic development that tourism brings is
> shared by everybody."
Nice thought, but Coney Island is a long subway ride from Manhattan
where most people go.
Nathan's and the Cyclone are a destination, but everything else is
fluff. A bunch of flat rides and a kiddie coaster won't do it when
destination travelers can go to major parks like CP and KD. 30 years
ago, the rides at Coney Island were big because nothing else was out
there, now they're kiddie stuff. Especially when those flat rides
come around in the form of a traveling county fair. I don't even go
to them, and I've got 2 I can visit, that being Dade and Broward
fairs, not to mention Santas Enchanted Forest. That stuff just
doesn't interest me, I'm spoiled by B&M hypers and Intamin Giga
coasters.
Richard Koppelman
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Good for you. One less drunk in line for the Cyclone!
Rich
Wolf
>> must-do list right next to Times Square and the Empire State
>> Building," Bloomberg said. "We're trying to find things in all five
>> boroughs to make sure the economic development that tourism brings is
>> shared by everybody."
>
> Nice thought, but Coney Island is a long subway ride from Manhattan
> where most people go.
Brooklyn itself has a larger population than Houston. If it were still
separate from NYC, it would be the fourth largest city in the country.
I think Coney has enough of a population base within an easy subway commute.
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> Good for you. One less drunk in line for the Cyclone!
>
> Rich
Wasn't drunk at Coney Island. Was actually fearing for my life.
Bad part of town to go through. The return trip was depressing
looking at all the apartments.
Since you bring up drunks I'll bring up this.
Sea World of Florida recently announced a 7% drop in attendance due to
"what else" the recession. Yes many people in the comments section of
the article say it's because they no longer have FREE BEER. Got
that?
I read the comment and thought it was me who wrote it, then looked
again and it wasn't me. It was others saying the same thing.
So SWF (In-Bev) stops the free beer in order to have this "pristine"
image, they sell to Blackstone, and I no longer drink Budweiser or
care about the parks.
Gee, what a fucking concept.
You wanna know what I'm drinking these day? Blue moon, Heinekin,
and Samuel Adams (whatever the season is). Just went out to a bar
tonight. Wanna know what I drank? Heinekin, Blue Moon draft.
Good Going Blackstone and In-Bev. Two birds with one fuck up. I
no longer visit SWF as much and I no longer drink Bud.
Weeeeeeeeee.
182feet
> Brooklyn itself has a larger population than Houston. If it were still
separate from NYC, it would be the fourth largest city in the country.
If NYC was split into its five boroughs, Brooklyn would actually be
the 5th largest city in the country. Queens would be 4th.
182feet
> If NYC was split into its five boroughs, Brooklyn would actually be
> the 5th largest city in the country. Queens would be 4th.
OOOPS, my bad. Brooklyn grew some, now more populous than Queens.
mamoosh
> If NYC was split into its five boroughs, Brooklyn would actually be
> the 5th largest city in the country. Queens would be 4th.
West Hollywood would be 2nd in terms of Queens : - )
(hee hee hee)
I hack, as good as I give birth!
> > Good for you. One less drunk in line for the Cyclone!
>
> > Rich
>
> Wasn't drunk at Coney Island. Was actually fearing for my life.
> Bad part of town to go through. The return trip was depressing
> looking at all the apartments.
>
> Since you bring up drunks I'll bring up this.
>
> Sea World of Florida recently announced a 7% drop in attendance due to
> "what else" the recession. Yes many people in the comments section of
> the article say it's because they no longer have FREE BEER. Got
> that?
>
> I read the comment and thought it was me who wrote it, then looked
> again and it wasn't me. It was others saying the same thing.
>
> So SWF (In-Bev) stops the free beer in order to have this "pristine"
> image, they sell to Blackstone, and I no longer drink Budweiser or
> care about the parks.
If you don't care, WTF do you keep posting about it?
I hack, as good as I give birth!
>
> > Rich
>
> Wasn't drunk at Coney Island. Was actually fearing for my life.
> Bad part of town to go through. The return trip was depressing
> looking at all the apartments.
>
> Since you bring up drunks I'll bring up this.
>
> Sea World of Florida recently announced a 7% drop in attendance due to
> "what else" the recession. Yes many people in the comments section of
> the article say it's because they no longer have FREE BEER. Got
> that?
where's the link? prove what you said?
NoGodForMe
Was posted in the "Industry News" section of Screamscape.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/business_tourism_aviation/2009/11/report-estimates-busch-entertainment-attendance-will-fall-7-percent.html
Attendance at Orlando-based Busch Entertainment Corp.'s chain of theme
parks is expected to end the year down about 7 percent, according to a
new estimate.
Corporate-debt analysts at Moody's Investors Service estimate that
B.E.C.'s 10 theme parks will draw a combined 23.6 million visitors
this year. That would be about 1.8 million fewer than in 2008, when
Busch reported attendance of 25.4 million.
It a clear sign of how the global recession and travel slump have
impacted Busch, whose parks include SeaWorld Orlando and Busch Gardens
Tampa Bay. B.E.C. is the second-largest theme-park operator in the
United States, behind the Walt Disney Co.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ok, so who makes that last statement? Jason? What makes him
the expert? Every freaking article he writes, he blames the
recession. Attendance at Universal is down 11%, Busch parks 7%, yet
Cedar Fair and Six Flags are only down 1%. Disney is unchanged.
So how can Jason keep blaming the recession on the shitty attendance
at the Orlando parks when other chains are only down 1%?
Yet look in the comments section of that article. You see people say
the same thing over and over. High ticket prices, and no more FREE
BEER at the Busch Parks.
The free beer stands made people walk to the back of the parks and
hang out. Now that it's gone from SWF, there's no reason to go any
where near that back corner. I don't care about the show in
Nautalaus theater, and I can get to Shamu stadium by taking the
bridge. I don't care about games, don't care about the deli. That
entire back section of SWF becomes nothing and I'm sure others feel
the same way. In the past I used to get the free beer samples, then
hang out, watch the Shamu show, buy another beer, eat pizza.
Now? I ride Manta, Kracken, and LEAVE spending NO MONEY.
BaSSiStiSt
> So how can Jason keep blaming the recession on the shitty attendance
> at the Orlando parks when other chains are only down 1%?
Because Cedar Fair and Six Flags parks draw more regional audiences,
and Orlando draws nationally? And travel to regional destinations goes
up when the economy sours?
Keith Hopkins
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>
>Because Cedar Fair and Six Flags parks draw more regional audiences,
>and Orlando draws nationally? And travel to regional destinations
>goes
>up when the economy sours?
How dare you use logic and reasoning.
(All outstanding funnel cake promises are now restored.)
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Keith Hopkins
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[clear up the hissing to email]
"Excuse me, sir, but you appear to be sitting
on my gown. Would you be so kind as to move?"
Mark McKenzie
BaSSiStiSt
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> How dare you use logic and reasoning.
My lynch mob outfit was at the cleaners.
> (All outstanding funnel cake promises are now restored.)
Great...now I won't fit into the Timberliners. That's just AWESOME.
:-)
Voting for Grizzly as #1 (cause you all think it's #2)
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> news:00ebc592-0919-4ccc...@s15g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
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>
>
> >Because Cedar Fair and Six Flags parks draw more regional audiences,
> >and Orlando draws nationally? And travel to regional destinations
> >goes
> >up when the economy sours?
>
> How dare you use logic and reasoning.
yeaaa stop arguing with the town drunk
Keith Hopkins
>On Nov 17, 12:18 pm, "Keith Hopkins"
>
>
>Great...now I won't fit into the Timberliners. That's just AWESOME.
AirtimeJunkie
<sussk...@sssssssssgmail.ssssssssscom> wrote:
> "BaSSiStiSt" <bassistist...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >On Nov 17, 12:18 pm, "Keith Hopkins"
>
> >> (All outstanding funnel cake promises are now restored.)
>
> >Great...now I won't fit into the Timberliners. That's just AWESOME.
>
> http://bit.ly/1q0wAl
>
> --
> Keith Hopkins
> [clear up the hissing to email]
> "Excuse me, sir, but you appear to be sitting
> on my gown. �Would you be so kind as to move?"
> Mark McKenzie
That reminds me of the buffet rush at ACE conferences. :)
Keith Hopkins
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On Nov 17, 11:53?am, "Keith Hopkins"
<sussk...@sssssssssgmail.ssssssssscom> wrote:
> "BaSSiStiSt" <bassistist...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:903faa34-89bc-4745...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> >On Nov 17, 12:18 pm, "Keith Hopkins"
>
> >> (All outstanding funnel cake promises are now restored.)
>
> >Great...now I won't fit into the Timberliners. That's just AWESOME.
>
> http://bit.ly/1q0wAl
>
>
Soooo-Ee!
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182feet
> West Hollywood would be 2nd in terms of Queens : - )
>
> (hee hee hee)
There ya go!