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AC Ratone

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Aug 26, 2009, 6:52:27 PM8/26/09
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However, you will get better reception if you give your neighbors a
case of shiny new incandescent bulbs before it is too late.

Bushcraftgregg

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Aug 26, 2009, 8:09:07 PM8/26/09
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On Aug 26, 6:52 pm, AC Ratone <ratone...@gmail.com> wrote:
> However, you will get better reception if you give your neighbors a
> case of shiny new incandescent bulbs before it is too late.

troll.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Aug 26, 2009, 9:13:07 PM8/26/09
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Leetle doggy, sleepin on the floor in front of her couch.I stealthly
reaches fer my leetle flashlight, I turns it on and I waves that thar
light around the room.
cuhulin

Brenda Ann

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Aug 26, 2009, 11:45:23 PM8/26/09
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"Bushcraftgregg" <gk...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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troll.

There is actually something to what he said. CFL's, even the newer, quieter
ones, put out RFI. Incandescents do not.

That being said, there will come a time when the change must be made for the
sake of the ecology (and, if not the ecology, then your power bill!).

As soon as the new LED TV's come down in price (doggone are those things
NICE!), I will be replacing our PDP sets with them, and save about 60% on
the cost of watching TV...

Antti J. Ylikoski

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Aug 26, 2009, 11:51:14 PM8/26/09
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Brenda Ann kirjoitti:

I have a lamp on my desk which contains a power LED, some 3 W, 235V.

It gives less light than an incancescent bulb.... More research and
development is needed. But it doesn't seem to emit RFI.

regards, Antti J. Ylikoski
Helsinki, Finland, the EU

NX211

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Aug 27, 2009, 10:38:02 AM8/27/09
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On Aug 26, 11:51 pm, "Antti J. Ylikoski" <antti.yliko...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I plan on burning the hot, inefficient, power hungry incandescent
bulbs the rest of my life.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Aug 27, 2009, 1:47:24 PM8/27/09
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I wants me a BIG LED tv, wall to wall and ten feet tall.
cuhulin

dave

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Aug 27, 2009, 6:15:07 PM8/27/09
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NX211 wrote:

>
> I plan on burning the hot, inefficient, power hungry incandescent
> bulbs the rest of my life.

May I ask why?

cuh...@webtv.net

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Aug 27, 2009, 7:09:47 PM8/27/09
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Me too.Incandescant G.E.Reveal Light Bulbs, 60 Watters.Why? Because I
do, tHat's Why.
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Aug 27, 2009, 7:51:12 PM8/27/09
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Military Retirees - NOW HEAR THIS!!!
www.freerepublic.com/focus/t-news/2326126/posts
cuhulin

N9NEO

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Aug 27, 2009, 10:11:44 PM8/27/09
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Every week when I go to the lumber store I buy two packages of
incandescent bulbs. I do not like the new designs which are noisy and
contain who knows what materials inside. I've heard there is MERCURY
inside them. That's totally obscene. We need to keep the Mercury in
the children's vaccines where it belongs. In the wintertime I don't
think incandescent bulbs are really inefficient as we are heating the
house up anyway.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Aug 27, 2009, 10:55:56 PM8/27/09
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Y'all ran JD off, y'all ran Les Locklear off, y'all ran Brian Hill off,
y'all ran Telamon off, y'all ran Michael Bryant Off, y'all ran Burr
off,,,,,, Who y'all going to run off next?
cuhulin

NX211

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Aug 28, 2009, 12:19:14 AM8/28/09
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Because there's no reason to stop. Every time I go to Walmart I
pick up a few more packages. I will burn them for as long as I can
and you should too.

Message has been deleted

~ RHF

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Aug 28, 2009, 5:26:54 AM8/28/09
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Warning - Under Prez Obama's "Cap-and-Trade"
Laws the Obama-Eco-Bots© [ObamaEcoBots©]
can come into your Home and Do an Energy Audit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaAVJITx1Y

-read- Prez Obama's "Cap and Trade" Program
Is a Tax on the Working Class ...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123655590609066021.html
Will Increase the Average American's Home
Utility Bills each Month... month after month.

-read- "Cap and Trade" Program a Massive Tax Increase
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124588837560750781.html
Can add Hundreds and Thousand of Dollars to Home
Energy Bills each Year for every American Family.

Plus the Obama-Enviro-Polizei© will be empowered
to search for any Illegal {Contraband} Polluting
Incandescent Light Bulbs and Confiscate them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkspolizei

-read- Cap-and-Trade Bill Could Hurt U.S. Manufacturing
and Send Factory Jobs Overseas
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=48552

-read- You Home's Energy Use Now Belongs to
and Will be Controlled by The State {USA}
http://www.americanissuesproject.org/blogs/aip/archive/2009/07/08/if-you-don-t-hate-the-cap-and-trade-bill-let-me-show-you-section-304.aspx

Headlines will read : Man Found with "666" Illegal
{Contraband} Polluting Incandescent Light Bulbs
in his Attic . . . Has All Utilities Turn-Off for 30 Days.
-message- You will been Branded with the Mark
of the Beast as a Polluting Environmental Criminal.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/07/obamas_civilian_national_secur.html
.

dave

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Aug 28, 2009, 8:18:45 AM8/28/09
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Who cares what's inside them; you're not going to eat them. More
mercury is scattered over the countryside producing the extra Watts
required by your coal-burning lamp.

I have been using fluorescent lamps exclusively for 20 years; there's no
way I'd go back to the incandescents.

dave

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Aug 28, 2009, 8:19:53 AM8/28/09
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When people are fighting for your energy it's kind of wrong to waste it.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Aug 28, 2009, 9:39:19 AM8/28/09
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Radioactive Coal

We all have to burn something, or the other, or we will freeze to death.

You know how to use scissors and cut out a paper spiral and hang it over
an Incandescant Light Bulb with a piece of thread and watch it twirl
around.
cuhulin

NX211

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Aug 28, 2009, 11:37:25 AM8/28/09
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You foolish person. People are fighting so that I can burn
incandescent bulbs - and I will.
And, like I said, you should too.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Aug 28, 2009, 1:16:09 PM8/28/09
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Incandescent Light Bulbs make good hand warmers too, when it is cold
weather.Get an Incandescent Light Bulb and glue a Light Bulb socket on
to a good Bulb.Get a bowl of sand and put the Light Bulb in the bowl of
sand so that the glued on socket is sticking up at an angle.Plug in the
Light Bulb and turn it on, hide the cord real good, you can drill a hole
in a plastic or wooden bowl for the cord.

tHat is a ''Trick'' I once saw in a Popular Science magazine back in the
1950s.
cuhulin

dave

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Aug 28, 2009, 5:57:38 PM8/28/09
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That's illogical, Captain.

Brenda Ann

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Aug 28, 2009, 6:26:52 PM8/28/09
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"dave" <da...@dave.dave> wrote in message
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Though you can still buy incandescent lamps here, almost no one uses them.
This is because energy is so blankety-blank expensive here. Trust me, when
Americans are paying 60 cents per kilowatt hour in the US, they'll quit
clinging to energy-hungry devices. Our light bill averages something like
$500-600 a month during the summer, and that's with only using an air
conditioner at night so we can sleep (and that only in the bedroom). I'd
hate to think what the power bill would be if we replaced all our CFL's with
incandescents using 5x the power..


dxAce

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Aug 28, 2009, 6:35:33 PM8/28/09
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Brenda Ann wrote:

Damn! My electric bill last month was $30.52 and that included sales tax and a
couple other rinky dink charges they threw on. Actual charge was about $20.50 or
so.

That included a bit of A/C usage, and admittedly we had a cool month (take that,
AlGore!).

dxAce
Michigan
USA


dxAce

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Aug 28, 2009, 7:01:03 PM8/28/09
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dxAce wrote:

And YES! I plan on using incandescents until they toss me in the ground or the
ocean.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


dave

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Aug 28, 2009, 10:41:03 PM8/28/09
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We have tiered service; it can get up to $00.40/KWH. My bill is
usually around $100. It was higher in Texas, due to the need to
refrigerate one's self from April to October.

~ RHF

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Aug 29, 2009, 6:35:27 PM8/29/09
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On Aug 28, 3:26 pm, "Brenda Ann" <newsgro...@fullspectrumradio.org>
wrote:
> "dave" <d...@dave.dave> wrote in message

>
> news:-_ednVKgVoC1VgrX...@earthlink.com...
>
> > N9NEO wrote:
> >> Every week when I go to the lumber store I buy two packages of
> >> incandescent bulbs.  I do not like the new designs which are noisy and
> >> contain who knows what materials inside.   I've heard there is MERCURY
> >> inside them.  That's totally obscene.   We need to keep the Mercury in
> >> the children's vaccines where it belongs.  In the wintertime I don't
> >> think incandescent bulbs are really inefficient as we are heating the
> >> house up anyway.
>
> > Who cares what's inside them; you're not going to eat them.  More mercury
> > is scattered over the countryside producing the extra Watts required by
> > your coal-burning lamp.
>
> > I have been using fluorescent lamps exclusively for 20 years; there's no
> > way I'd go back to the incandescents.
>
> Though you can still buy incandescent lamps here, almost no one uses them.
> This is because energy is so blankety-blank expensive here.  

- Trust me, when Americans are paying 60 cents
- per kilowatt hour in the US,

Prez Obama's "Cap-and-Trade" Laws the

Obama-Eco-Bots© Doing Energy Audit :
? What Next Obama-Enviro-Polizei© ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/f8be48ef5cd135b1

? Why Does Prez Obama advocate EcoScience
{Cap-and-Trade} as a major Political Goal of the
Obama-Regime© ?
http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/
-and- EcoScience {Cap-and-Trade} a cornerstone
of ObamaNomics©
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holdren
.
.
- they'll quit clinging to energy-hungry devices.

- Our light bill averages something like $500-600
- a month during the summer, and that's with only
- using an air conditioner at night so we can sleep
- (and that only in the bedroom).

Yeah Prez Obama's "Cap-and-Trade" Laws will
Double and re-double the average American's
Home Utility Bills month after month.
* Prez Obama's "Cap-and-Trade" Laws
are a Tax on Living in your own Home.
more Obama-Taxes©
* Prez Obama's "Cap-and-Trade" Laws
are a Tax on Driving your own Car/Truck.
more and more Obama-Taxes©
* Prez Obama's "Cap-and-Trade" Laws are a
Tax on Every Product and Service You Buy.
more and more and more Obama-Taxes©
ALL in the name of leaving you with just the 'change'
in you pockets . . . just by paying all the obama-taxes
just to live day-to-day. {tax slavery} ~ RHF

Bill Baka

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Sep 13, 2009, 2:24:15 PM9/13/09
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I can verify that 110%. I fired up my Hammarlund a few months back and
got a loud buzzing at 60 or 120 Hertz and thought I had a bad filter
cap. I turned off the ceiling light (2 CFL's from China) and it got
better, not great but better. Then I found we had one for a front porch
lite and turned it off and could hear the noise diminish from my radio.
I found a few neighbors with them and asked them if they could turn them
off for 5 minutes and I had just about 5 minutes of good radio.
It does not matter whether it is a $$0.99 unit from Wal-mart or a $5.00
American named unit from Home Depot, they are the same guts.
Until this gutless country tells China they had better control the
noise, and quit putting name brands on junk bulbs it will only get worse.
I have a bicycle headlight that can be shined on the ceiling and provide
plenty of light most of the night.

Not all things are what you hear on television.

Bill Baka

Bill Baka

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Sep 13, 2009, 2:29:35 PM9/13/09
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Where ever you live I am glad I don't. You are getting completely raped
on you electric bill. What appliances short of an electric dryer can
possibly take that much? Central heating?

Bill Baka

Brenda Ann

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Sep 13, 2009, 4:28:56 PM9/13/09
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"Bill Baka" <bb...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:h8jdme$k3i$2...@news.eternal-september.org...

>>
>> Though you can still buy incandescent lamps here, almost no one uses
>> them. This is because energy is so blankety-blank expensive here. Trust
>> me, when Americans are paying 60 cents per kilowatt hour in the US,
>> they'll quit clinging to energy-hungry devices. Our light bill averages
>> something like $500-600 a month during the summer, and that's with only
>> using an air conditioner at night so we can sleep (and that only in the
>> bedroom). I'd hate to think what the power bill would be if we replaced
>> all our CFL's with incandescents using 5x the power..
> Where ever you live I am glad I don't. You are getting completely raped on
> you electric bill. What appliances short of an electric dryer can possibly
> take that much? Central heating?
>

Three things: Computers, Refrigerators and A/C.

Mind you, our power bill is being broken up into three pieces, as we
actually have three different 'drops', one for each apartment (we live in
two apartments that have been conjoined) and one for the basement, which
also feeds my shop. This month's electric bill is over $700 (they raised the
electric rates last month). We have a 'graduated scale' billing system. If
we used less than 100KWH in a month (totally impossible), our power would be
about 4 cents per KWH. The second 100 KWH is billed at 10 cents/KWH, the
third at 15 cents, the fourth at 22 cents, the fifth at 35 cents, and over
that at 62 cents per KWH. This is the sort of thing that happens when you
live in a country with limited resources that has to buy things like
electricity (either directly or by virtue of buying raw materials to make
their own.)


cuh...@webtv.net

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Sep 13, 2009, 5:06:09 PM9/13/09
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I has to watch Ripley's Believe It or Not! on the Chiller channel rat
now.Sompin abouts a techno bra.
Tomorrow wHen I stop off at teh Goodwill store on my way to the Lowe's
store, I am going to ask Pam where can I buy me a pump up bra.
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

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Sep 13, 2009, 5:12:20 PM9/13/09
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My latest snail mail bank statement will show up here in a few days, but
my Entergy electricity bill last time was $48.89.

Entergy is going to move their headquarters from N'Awlins to
Jackson,Mississippi.Because of Hurricane Katrina.Much Safer around here
(Hurricane wise, anyway) than N'Awlins.
cuhulin

Bill Baka

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Sep 13, 2009, 9:00:28 PM9/13/09
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Brenda Ann wrote:
> "Bill Baka" <bb...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:h8jdme$k3i$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Though you can still buy incandescent lamps here, almost no one uses
>>> them. This is because energy is so blankety-blank expensive here. Trust
>>> me, when Americans are paying 60 cents per kilowatt hour in the US,
>>> they'll quit clinging to energy-hungry devices. Our light bill averages
>>> something like $500-600 a month during the summer, and that's with only
>>> using an air conditioner at night so we can sleep (and that only in the
>>> bedroom). I'd hate to think what the power bill would be if we replaced
>>> all our CFL's with incandescents using 5x the power..
>> Where ever you live I am glad I don't. You are getting completely raped on
>> you electric bill. What appliances short of an electric dryer can possibly
>> take that much? Central heating?
>>
>
> Three things: Computers, Refrigerators and A/C.

I have 2 Computers, one over/under Refrigerator, 2 window A/C units, and
a stand alone freezer that is turned on lowest just to keep the
compressor kicking over a few times a day. My bill is only about $60-$80.
We have a graduated scale that starts at about 12 cents per KWH, then
goes up at 500 KWH, which is considered the 'baseline' below which
people can't even afford to turn on lights or cook.
At 1,000 KWH it goes up again to about 23 cents. We usually manage to
keep it at about 700 KWH since the window air units are so much more
efficient than a central unit.


>
> Mind you, our power bill is being broken up into three pieces, as we
> actually have three different 'drops', one for each apartment (we live in
> two apartments that have been conjoined) and one for the basement, which
> also feeds my shop. This month's electric bill is over $700 (they raised the
> electric rates last month). We have a 'graduated scale' billing system. If
> we used less than 100KWH in a month (totally impossible), our power would be
> about 4 cents per KWH. The second 100 KWH is billed at 10 cents/KWH, the
> third at 15 cents, the fourth at 22 cents, the fifth at 35 cents, and over
> that at 62 cents per KWH. This is the sort of thing that happens when you
> live in a country with limited resources that has to buy things like
> electricity (either directly or by virtue of buying raw materials to make
> their own.)
>
>

I'm in California and paying less than half of what you pay so I stick
with the comment "You are being raped.".

Bill Baka

cuh...@webtv.net

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Sep 13, 2009, 10:07:01 PM9/13/09
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Shoe throwing Iraqi reporter about to be released.
http://eastday.com

Alrightttttt,,,, he never should have been locked up in the first place!
Will he be going to Dallas? Wingtip Shoes.

Old McBlueberry owns the couch,,,, Yipee Yi O Ki Ayyyyyy,,,,,,
cuhulin

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