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NASA’s Biggest Prediction Could Annihilate The United States

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∅baMa∅ Tse Dung

ungelesen,
27.09.2010, 19:01:2527.09.10
an
The average rec.radio.shortwave Liberal Fascist doesn’t even realize
he is helpless.

He wakes-up, and turns on NBC. Time to soak up a few half truths, and
a few more flat-out lies.

In his car, he’s listening to National Public Radio. Brainwashing and
classical music. Perfect for someone who doesn’t care about what is
ACTUALLY going on in the world.

Top it off with plenty of nonsense from liberals telling him how
“change” is making his life “better”. And the economy is “fixed”.
Right.

All the while, the only government organization that has ever done
anything remotely useful – the National Aeronautics & Space
Administration (NASA) – is sounding the alarm – but no one is
listening!

Here are the facts: http://www.2012-survival-guide.com/index2.php

cuh...@webtv.net

ungelesen,
27.09.2010, 20:28:5027.09.10
an
When I wake up in the mornings, I turn on the Paul Gallo radio talk
show, when his show is over, I listen to JT's radio talk show.I do not
listen to radio when I am driving, Ergo it makes me nervous.I was on my
roof top today listening to my little Sony AM/FM radio, Ergo that does
not make me nervous, furr sum strange reason.
cuhulin

bpnjensen

ungelesen,
27.09.2010, 22:54:3627.09.10
an

This is a frigging fear-mongering ad by a greedy bastard to who wants
to take the gullible for a ride. Here's what the shyster says:

"I have spent days and months pouring over scientific analyses,
forums, financial statements, news articles and interviewing the
leading experts so you don't have to."

In other words, "I've made up all the scary parts for you!"

When this ad provides at least a single resource to verify the
"information" it provides, then we will see about . Until then, later
duds.

arthr...@webtv.net

ungelesen,
28.09.2010, 01:15:1128.09.10
an
> duds.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

He has... discovered sunspots ? Is this written by a teenager that is
to young to remember last solar maximum !

cuh...@webtv.net

ungelesen,
28.09.2010, 09:07:5228.09.10
an
BOYCOTT Home Depot.
http://action.afa.net/item.aspx?id=2147496231

Home Queerpot.BOYCOTT the Crap out of them.
cuhulin

dave

ungelesen,
28.09.2010, 10:28:5828.09.10
an

Nobody cares. There are more pressing issues.

BDK

ungelesen,
28.09.2010, 09:44:5928.09.10
an
In article <20717-4CA...@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>,
cuh...@webtv.net says...

Anything the AFA is against is something decent people should support.
What a bunch of assclowns.
--
BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!

BDK

ungelesen,
28.09.2010, 09:47:0028.09.10
an
In fact your post made me decide to go to Home Depot for the things I
needed for a small project. In reality, your post had the opposite
effect from what you intended.

Why do you guys care so much about what gays do? You seem to be WAY too
interested.

bpnjensen

ungelesen,
28.09.2010, 10:38:5428.09.10
an
On Sep 28, 6:47 am, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote:
> In article <20717-4CA1E8A8-4...@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>,
> cuhu...@webtv.net says...> BOYCOTT Home Depot.

> >http://action.afa.net/item.aspx?id=2147496231
>
> > Home Queerpot.BOYCOTT the Crap out of them.
> > cuhulin
>
> In fact your post made me decide to go to Home Depot for the things I
> needed for a small project. In reality, your post had the opposite
> effect from what you intended.
>
> Why do you guys care so much about what gays do? You seem to be WAY too
> interested.
> --
> BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!

Some people feel threatened by gays. They are SOOOO Scary!

cuh...@webtv.net

ungelesen,
28.09.2010, 10:55:2628.09.10
an
You know those one inch by about a quarter inch thick long wood trim
strips on some houses, way up there at the roof, my house has them, I
need to go buy a couple of new ones for my house.What pizzes me off is
Lowe's doesn't have them, but Home Queerpot does have them.That means I
will have to drive about six miles to the Home Queerpot store in LINTON<
(my keyboard is screwing up, I need to put some new Ray O AC batteries
in it) Clinton,Mississippi for those damn trim strips of wood.
cuhulin

RHF

ungelesen,
28.09.2010, 11:22:0528.09.10
an
On Sep 28, 6:44 am, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote:
- - In article <20717-4CA1E8A8-4...@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>,
- - cuhu...@webtv.net says...
- -
- - BOYCOTT Home Depot.
- - http://action.afa.net/item.aspx?id=2147496231
- -
- - Home Queerpot.
- - BOYCOTT the Crap out of them.
- - cuhulin

- Anything the AFA is against is something
- decent people should support.

BDK,

So an organization like the "American Family
Association" (AFA) that claims to represent
and stand for Traditional American Family
Values and Christian Moral Princples is BAD !?!
http://action.afa.net/Detail.aspx?id=31
* Preservation of Marriage and the Family
* Decency and Morality
* Sanctity of Human Life

BDK - ? So you are 'proclaiming' that the members
of American Family Association (AFA) are {Evil}
"Indecent" People ? -i-don't-know-about-that-
http://action.afa.net/
.
HELLO : No Reply Is Required
-but-if-you-must-do-do-then-the-
Follow-Ups are set to : alt.idiots & alt.stupid.idiots
-cause- " Idiots-R-Us " ;;-}} ~ RHF
.
.
- What a bunch of assclowns.
- --


- BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!

.

cuh...@webtv.net

ungelesen,
28.09.2010, 11:49:2128.09.10
an
All time high in the City of the Angels: 113 Degrees.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com
Meanwhile, it is right Chilly weather over here.Going to get down to 48
Degrees next Sunday night.I purrdict an early Winter.
http://www.wxusa.com

Doggy and I have to sleep under a blanket at night time.Cool damp
weather here, I am waiting for the Sun to dry up that part of the
rooftop where I needs to get up there.I won't get up on a damp/wet
rooftop.
cuhulin

RHF

ungelesen,
28.09.2010, 12:01:1128.09.10
an

sctvguy1

ungelesen,
28.09.2010, 15:20:3728.09.10
an
∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:

Fuck off and die, dimwit! Show some intelligence and get out of
rec.radio.shortwave. You are a fucking cross-posting troll.

cuh...@webtv.net

ungelesen,
28.09.2010, 15:49:2128.09.10
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Gunfight at the O.K.Corral, on TCM channel.
History is Full of Mishistory.THAT Gunfight never happened at the
O.K.Corral.It happened in a vacant lot behind the photography shop.

Never bring cutlery to a Gunfight!
O.Kayyyyyyyyyyy Corralllllllllll,,,,,,,
cuhulin

RHF

ungelesen,
28.09.2010, 16:38:1628.09.10
an
On Sep 28, 12:20 pm, sctvguy1 <sctvg...@invalid.net> wrote:

- Fuck off and die, dimwit!

SCTV Guy 1 -"Fuck off and die, dimwit!" ? ? ?

- Show some intelligence and get out of rec.radio.shortwave.

SCTV Guy 1 - Maybe you should heed your own
good advise and "Show some intelligence" ;;-}}
.
- You are a fucking cross-posting troll.

SCTV Guy 1 - "You are a fucking cross-posting troll."

-actually- the headers indicate that the original post
was just to one newsgroup : 'rec.radio.shortwave'
.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Followup-To: rec.radio.shortwave
From: ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung <0bama0.spea...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 16:01:25 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 27 2010 4:01 pm
Subject: NASA’s Biggest Prediction Could Annihilate The United States
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/502cf867e92609a2
.
HELLO : Once Again : "No Reply Is Required"

cuh...@webtv.net

ungelesen,
28.09.2010, 17:46:3828.09.10
an
In Hancock County,Mississippi, right now, they are building a 58 feet
high by 20 feet concrete monument pertaining to how high the water got
up to during Katrina.There will be a line etched into that monument to
show the high water mark.The monument will be completed in three weeks,
cost is about $48,000.
Sheeeeesh, I can think of much better thingys to spend that money on!
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

ungelesen,
28.09.2010, 19:16:4728.09.10
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6.0 to 7.0 Earthquake Warning, likely in Southern California
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=296356

That is what the article says.Other than that, I don't know nuttin.
cuhulin

dave

ungelesen,
28.09.2010, 20:59:0628.09.10
an

I've been thinking the same thing. We appear to be stuck. The rest of
the Pacific Rim has been having a lot of activity:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/ortho/210_0.php#maptop

RHF

ungelesen,
28.09.2010, 20:25:1628.09.10
an
On Sep 28, 2:46 pm, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
- In Hancock County,Mississippi, right now, they are building a 58
feet
- high by 20 feet concrete monument pertaining to how high the water
got
- up to during Katrina.There will be a line etched into that monument
to
- show the high water mark.The monument will be completed in three
weeks,
- cost is about $48,000.
- Sheeeeesh, I can think of much better thingys to spend that money
on!
- cuhulin

Cuhulin,

Yeah that be your Obama Stimulus Money At
Work Creating Monuments to Hurricane Katrina
and former prez Bush now-living-in-exile }Texas{

Speaking of a "High Water Mark" of . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rITJyZVTfy4
Musical Genius : How High the . . .

Just remember one thing to always get your
kicks along . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcZ1k4d02KA
http://route66.backroadsplanet.com/images/route66map8.gif
.

cuh...@webtv.net

ungelesen,
28.09.2010, 22:36:2528.09.10
an
Mississippi weighs WETBACK proposal.
http://www.clarionledger.com

What the hell do they mean, weighs?
WETBACKS ARE CRIMMINALS!
They (''They'') are NOT immigrants either!
cuhulin

RHF

ungelesen,
29.09.2010, 00:07:0429.09.10
an
On Sep 28, 7:36 pm, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
- Mississippi weighs WETBACK proposal.
- http://www.clarionledger.com
-
- What the hell do they mean, weighs?
- WETBACKS ARE CRIMMINALS!
- They (''They'') are NOT immigrants either!
- cuhulin

Cuhulin,

Consider these four Points -wrt- Illegal Aliens :
.
Illegal Immigration & Communicable Diseases
http://www.ehow.com/list_6587841_illegal-immigration-communicable-diseases.html
Higher Rates (2X) then the Host American Population
-hint- They Bring Diseases with them and Infect Americans
-result- Illegal Aliens are a Public Health Issue
.
Illegal Immigration and Crimes Against Americans
http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html
Higher Rates (2X) then the Host American Population
-hint- They Are Crimnals Fleeing Mexico and Commit
More of the same Crimes in the USA on Americans
-result- Illegal Aliens are a Public Safety Issue
.
Illegal Aliens Murder 12 Americans Daily
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=39031
America's Death Toll Overshadows Total U.S.
Soldiers Killed in Iraq and Afghanistan
-result- Illegal Aliens are a Major Crime Issue and
represent a greater threat to the Lives of US Citizens
then being in the Army in a War Zone
.
One Out of Four Jobs Held by an Illegal Alien is
a Job an American Citizen Wants and Needs
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5312900
12 Millions Illegal Aliens are Costing American
Citizens 3 Million Jobs : That is as much as the
Obama Regime is now claiming to have save &
created by spending Billions of Tax Payer Dollars
in the Stimulus Package.
* That's 3 Million American Jobs and 3 Million
American Tax Payers -versus- 3 Million Jobs
Lost to Illegal Aliens and 3 Million Missing Tax
Payers who have Vanished off-the-books.
-result- Illegal Aliens are a Combined Jobs and
a Taxes Issue

just say no to illegal aliens ~ RHF
.
.

bpnjensen

ungelesen,
29.09.2010, 01:17:1229.09.10
an
On Sep 28, 9:07 pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Sep 28, 7:36 pm, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
> - Mississippi weighs WETBACK proposal.
> -http://www.clarionledger.com

> -
> - What the hell do they mean, weighs?
> - WETBACKS ARE CRIMMINALS!
> - They (''They'') are NOT immigrants either!
> - cuhulin
>
> Cuhulin,
>
> Consider these four Points -wrt- Illegal Aliens :
>  .
> Illegal Immigration & Communicable Diseaseshttp://www.ehow.com/list_6587841_illegal-immigration-communicable-dis...

> Higher Rates (2X) then the Host American Population
> -hint- They Bring Diseases with them and Infect Americans
> -result- Illegal Aliens are a Public Health Issue
>  .
> Illegal Immigration and Crimes Against Americanshttp://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html

> Higher Rates (2X) then the Host American Population
> -hint- They Are Crimnals Fleeing Mexico and Commit
> More of the same Crimes in the USA on Americans
> -result- Illegal Aliens are a Public Safety Issue
>  .
> Illegal Aliens Murder 12 Americans Dailyhttp://www.wnd.com/?pageId=39031

> America's Death Toll Overshadows Total U.S.
> Soldiers Killed in Iraq and Afghanistan
> -result- Illegal Aliens are a Major Crime Issue and
> represent a greater threat to the Lives of US Citizens
> then being in the Army in a War Zone
>  .
> One Out of Four Jobs Held by an Illegal Alien is
> a Job an American Citizen Wants and Needshttp://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5312900

> 12 Millions Illegal Aliens are Costing American
> Citizens 3 Million Jobs : That is as much as the
> Obama Regime is now claiming to have save &
> created by spending Billions of Tax Payer Dollars
> in the Stimulus Package.
> * That's 3 Million American Jobs and 3 Million
> American Tax Payers -versus- 3 Million Jobs
> Lost to Illegal Aliens and 3 Million Missing Tax
> Payers who have Vanished off-the-books.
> -result- Illegal Aliens are a Combined Jobs and
> a Taxes Issue
>
> just say no to illegal aliens ~ RHF
>  .


For at least the last one, I have a perfect solution.

Start citing, fining and jailing the unpatriotic bastards who hire
illegals.

In fact, this one solution may substantially resolve all the rest.

BDK

ungelesen,
29.09.2010, 03:23:4129.09.10
an
In article <6d00632b-85e7-449f-b2ec-
552356...@x20g2000pro.googlegroups.com>, bpnj...@yahoo.com says...

Yeah, and you notice how many of the people raving about them end up
being exposed as gay themselves eventually?

Hill-larious.

BDK

ungelesen,
29.09.2010, 03:41:2229.09.10
an
In article <7b65eeae-9f29-4d53-996c-407b953d2260
@z34g2000pro.googlegroups.com>, rhf-new...@pacbell.net says...

> On Sep 28, 6:44 am, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote:
> - - In article <20717-4CA1E8A8-4...@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>,
> - - cuhu...@webtv.net says...
> - -
> - - BOYCOTT Home Depot.
> - - http://action.afa.net/item.aspx?id=2147496231
> - -
> - - Home Queerpot.
> - - BOYCOTT the Crap out of them.
> - - cuhulin
>
> - Anything the AFA is against is something
> - decent people should support.
>
> BDK,
>
> So an organization like the "American Family
> Association" (AFA) that claims to represent
> and stand for Traditional American Family
> Values and Christian Moral Princples is BAD !?!
> http://action.afa.net/Detail.aspx?id=31
> * Preservation of Marriage and the Family
> * Decency and Morality
> * Sanctity of Human Life

As practiced by the AFA, yes. They are almost a parody of what they
claim to be. How do gays threaten marriage? I've never heard a rational
explanation as to how them being married affects non gays in any real
way.

Their ideas on decency and morality are from a fundie prospective, out
of touch with reality and the opinions of many, if not most people.

I'm against most abortions myself, but they accomplish nothing positive
due to the way they operate.

>
> BDK - ? So you are 'proclaiming' that the members
> of American Family Association (AFA) are {Evil}
> "Indecent" People ? -i-don't-know-about-that-
> http://action.afa.net/

Proclaiming? No, just my opinion, just like yours. Your's seems to be
that the are doing something positive.

Most of the members are misguided and easily swayed by the leadership of
the organization who seem to be about as evil and hypocritical as they
come, without being outright criminals..

> .
> HELLO : No Reply Is Required
> -but-if-you-must-do-do-then-the-
> Follow-Ups are set to : alt.idiots & alt.stupid.idiots
> -cause- " Idiots-R-Us " ;;-}} ~ RHF

How cute.

> .
> .
> - What a bunch of assclowns.

You seem to fit right in.

> - --
> - BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!
> .
>

--

D. Peter Maus

ungelesen,
29.09.2010, 03:56:1229.09.10
an
On 9/29/10 24:17 , bpnjensen wrote:
> On Sep 28, 9:07 pm, RHF<rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> On Sep 28, 7:36 pm, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
>> - Mississippi weighs WETBACK proposal.
>> -http://www.clarionledger.com
>> -
>> - What the hell do they mean, weighs?
>> - WETBACKS ARE CRIMMINALS!
>> - They (''They'') are NOT immigrants either!
>> - cuhulin
>>
>> Cuhulin,
>>
>> Consider these four Points -wrt- Illegal Aliens :
>> .
>> Illegal Immigration& Communicable Diseaseshttp://www.ehow.com/list_6587841_illegal-immigration-communicable-dis...


That's part of the Arizona law. And one of the elements specifically
cited in the Federal suit against Arizona.

The truth is that there simply isn't the political will to address
this issue. If there were, it would have been solved, by now.

There are 536 individuals in this country with the power to make this
issue go away. Only 536. And it takes but 269 of them to get it done.
357, if the President isn't on board. Only 357.

And yet....

Only 357 people in all of the US could end the illegal immigration
issue tomorrow. Ironically, right around 536 sit in offices where they
were elected on the promise to do SOMETHING about illegal immigration.

This has been a hot button issue in the US for a couple of decades,
now. Despite the fact that far more than those 357 have run on the
promise to resolve the issue. Which underscores that illegal immigration
is far more politically useful as an issue than a solution.

You're right. Your suggestion is a perfect solution.

But it's clear that a solution is NOT the goal, here.

If it were, it would have been done.

dave

ungelesen,
29.09.2010, 09:10:4329.09.10
an

They were here first. Like the Kurds and the Gypsies.

cuh...@webtv.net

ungelesen,
29.09.2010, 09:31:0529.09.10
an
Can you imagine what America would be like if everybody in America were
WETBACKS?
Have you ever been to Mexico before? I have.
Mexico SUCKS!!!
Go see for yourself if you don't believe me.

I sat on a couch yesteray at the Goodwill store.Ooooooooo, that couch
was soooooo comfortable, $50.00 couch.I am fixin to trot back over and
see if that couch is still there.Doggy and I needs a GOOD couch.Maybe I
can jew Ms.Edna down to $40.00 - $45.00 furr that couch.If Ms.Edna isn't
there, maybe I can jew the biscuit lady down a few dollars furr that
couch.
cuhulin

RHF

ungelesen,
29.09.2010, 11:25:1929.09.10
an
On Sep 29, 12:41 am, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote:
> In article <7b65eeae-9f29-4d53-996c-407b953d2260
> @z34g2000pro.googlegroups.com>, rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net says...

>
>
>
> > On Sep 28, 6:44 am, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote:
> > - - In article <20717-4CA1E8A8-4...@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>,
> > - - cuhu...@webtv.net says...
> > - -
> > - - BOYCOTT Home Depot.
> > - -http://action.afa.net/item.aspx?id=2147496231

> > - -
> > - - Home Queerpot.
> > - - BOYCOTT the Crap out of them.
> > - - cuhulin
>
> > - Anything the AFA is against is something
> > - decent people should support.
>
> > BDK,
>
> > So an organization like the "American Family
> > Association" (AFA) that claims to represent
> > and stand for Traditional American Family
> > Values and Christian Moral Princples is BAD !?!
> >http://action.afa.net/Detail.aspx?id=31
> > * Preservation of Marriage and the Family
> > * Decency and Morality
> > * Sanctity of Human Life
>
- As practiced by the AFA, yes. They are almost a parody of what they
- claim to be. How do gays threaten marriage? I've never heard a
rational
- explanation as to how them being married affects non gays in any
real
- way.

Just provide a Clear 'Separation' of Church-and-State :
Where "The State" Can NOT Mandate That All the
Churches in the USA Must Violate Their Religious
Principles, Beliefs, and Teachings and Be Required
{Forced} To Preform LGBT Marriages/Wedding.

Oops -but- 'LGBT Rights' Trump "Freedom of Religion".
-and- "The State" can Force Churches to Comply by
Taking Away Their Tax Exempt Charitable Status
-if- A Church Will NOT Marry LGBTs.

- Their ideas on decency and morality are from a fundie prospective,
out
- of touch with reality and the opinions of many, if not most people.

BDK so you see everything -and- they know nothing.

? "Of Many" ? What About the 'other' Many :
Who hold the Opposite Opinion Don't Their
Rights {Opinions} Count Too ?

Oops BDK's Wisdom Cnacels Out The Freedoms.

> I'm against most abortions myself, but they accomplish nothing positive
> due to the way they operate.

Glad to hear that you do have some Moral Beliefs
other than : If It 'Feels' Good - Just Do It !

> > BDK - ? So you are 'proclaiming' that the members
> > of American Family Association (AFA) are {Evil}
> > "Indecent" People ? -i-don't-know-about-that-
> >http://action.afa.net/
>

- Proclaiming? No, just my opinion, just like yours.
- Your's seems to be that the are doing something positive.

Sure Do -i-say- SURE DO ! sound positive to me.


"American Family Association" (AFA) that claims to
represent and stand for Traditional American Family

Values and Christian Moral Principles is BAD !?!
http://action.afa.net/Detail.aspx?id=31
? BDK Is That Bad ?

* Preservation of Marriage and the Family

? BDK Are You Against That ?

* Decency and Morality
? BDK Are You Against That ?

* Sanctity of Human Life

? BDK Are You Against That ?
.

- Most of the members are misguided and easily swayed by the
leadership of
- the organization who seem to be about as evil and hypocritical as
they
- come, without being outright criminals..

BDK so you see all -and- they know nothing.

> >  .
- - HELLO : No Reply Is Required
- - -but-if-you-must-do-do-then-the-
- - Follow-Ups are set to : alt.idiots & alt.stupid.idiots
- - -cause- " Idiots-R-Us " ;;-}} ~ RHF

- How cute.

Yeah 'cute' enough so that you changed it,
to send your reply back-at-me : making you
a member of : " Idiots-R-Us " ;;-}}

HELLO : Once Again : No Reply Is Required


-but-if-you-must-do-do-then-the-
Follow-Ups are set to : alt.idiots & alt.stupid.idiots
-cause- " Idiots-R-Us " ;;-}} ~ RHF

>
> >  .
> >  .
- - - What a bunch of assclowns.

BDK "AssClown" It's Your Word : You Own It :
Wear It Proudly -cause- It Fits You Well ;;-}}

- You seem to fit right in.

BDK -with- Traditional American Family
Values and Christian Moral Principles :


* Preservation of Marriage and the Family
* Decency and Morality
* Sanctity of Human Life

Yeah - Most Likely I Sure Do :o)
-and- I will say an "Amen" to that - amen ~ RHF

RHF

ungelesen,
29.09.2010, 11:39:1629.09.10
an

Make that 35& Number "358-1" or '356+1'

The other number '35&' that you reference is
sometimes use as a code word for Death {Hit}
as in the '35&' Solution or the '35&' Option

least you be "left holding three 9s" :-{ ~ RHF

Point-of-Fact :
Actually there are two 'Separate' Numbers :
2/3rds of 435 Reps ~ 290
2/3rds of 100 Senators ~67
and each is independent of the other.
yet both must occur to be successful
.
.

RHF

ungelesen,
29.09.2010, 11:51:2329.09.10
an
- For at least the last one, I have a perfect solution.
-
- Start citing, fining and jailing the unpatriotic
- bastards who hire illegals.
-
- In fact, this one solution may substantially resolve all the rest.

BpnJ,

I would agree Put those Employers of Illegal Aliens
Out-of-Business : Confiscate the Business, Property
and Finances; and Put Them In Jail : Owner, President,
Officers and the Board.

Send a Hard-Line Message and They Will Stop
Employing Illegal Aliens and Start Hiring Americans.

yes it is that simple ~ RHF
.

RHF

ungelesen,
29.09.2010, 12:04:5429.09.10
an
On Sep 28, 9:07 pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Sep 28, 7:36 pm, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
> - Mississippi weighs WETBACK proposal.
> -http://www.clarionledger.com

> -
> - What the hell do they mean, weighs?
> - WETBACKS ARE CRIMMINALS!
> - They (''They'') are NOT immigrants either!
> - cuhulin
>
> Cuhulin,
>
> Consider these four Points -wrt- Illegal Aliens :
>  .
> Illegal Immigration & Communicable Diseaseshttp://www.ehow.com/list_6587841_illegal-immigration-communicable-dis...

> Higher Rates (2X) then the Host American Population
> -hint- They Bring Diseases with them and Infect Americans
> -result- Illegal Aliens are a Public Health Issue
>  .
> Illegal Immigration and Crimes Against Americanshttp://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html

> Higher Rates (2X) then the Host American Population
> -hint- They Are Crimnals Fleeing Mexico and Commit
> More of the same Crimes in the USA on Americans
> -result- Illegal Aliens are a Public Safety Issue
>  .
> Illegal Aliens Murder 12 Americans Dailyhttp://www.wnd.com/?pageId=39031

> America's Death Toll Overshadows Total U.S.
> Soldiers Killed in Iraq and Afghanistan
> -result- Illegal Aliens are a Major Crime Issue and
> represent a greater threat to the Lives of US Citizens
> then being in the Army in a War Zone
>  .
> One Out of Four Jobs Held by an Illegal Alien is
> a Job an American Citizen Wants and Needshttp://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5312900

> 12 Millions Illegal Aliens are Costing American
> Citizens 3 Million Jobs : That is as much as the
> Obama Regime is now claiming to have save &
> created by spending Billions of Tax Payer Dollars
> in the Stimulus Package.
> * That's 3 Million American Jobs and 3 Million
> American Tax Payers -versus- 3 Million Jobs
> Lost to Illegal Aliens and 3 Million Missing Tax
> Payers who have Vanished off-the-books.
> -result- Illegal Aliens are a Combined Jobs and
> a Taxes Issue
>
> just say no to illegal aliens ~ RHF
>  .
>  .

New Flash "Un-Date" ROTFL -in-spanish-
.
Border Conference - Mexican Mayors Ask USA
to Stop Deporting Criminals back to Mexico
http://newsblaze.com/story/20100926092344mcut.nb/topstory.html
.
Illegal Aliens Deported to Ciudad Juarez, Mexico
from the United States, in the last three years,
28,000 had Criminal Convictions in the USA
including 7,000 who had been Convicted of Rape
and 2,000 who had been Convicted of Murder
http://newsblaze.com/story/20100926092344mcut.nb/topstory.html
.
But the Mayor of Juarez has now asked that the
USA Stop Deporting Criminal Illegal Aliens back
to Mexico -cause- It's Adding to their Crime Rate
http://newsblaze.com/story/20100926092344mcut.nb/topstory.html
.
Mexican Politicians are Angered that the USA is
Sending Mexican Criminals back home to Mexico
http://newsblaze.com/story/20100926092344mcut.nb/topstory.html
.
Idiots-R-Us : Consider These Four Points
-wrt- Illegal Alien Invaders from Mexico
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5be3056359a4c2ca
.
.

BDK

ungelesen,
29.09.2010, 12:10:2629.09.10
an
In article <ff1e73a0-26f3-45e0-aab8-7184ffd64485
@u31g2000pru.googlegroups.com>, rhf-new...@pacbell.net says...

I've never heard of anything that requires a church to perform a gay
wedding, or a straight one, for that matter. This sounds like it's some
claim posted on a whackjob page right under the latest hysterical rant
about the UN taking over the world and taking all our guns away. I have
a bunch of them, and I have no fear of the UN doing a damn thing, or the
Feds. The UN is a very impotent organization at this point in time, and
I see no reason to believe they will become any stronger, like in my
lifetime.

>
> Oops -but- 'LGBT Rights' Trump "Freedom of Religion".
> -and- "The State" can Force Churches to Comply by
> Taking Away Their Tax Exempt Charitable Status
> -if- A Church Will NOT Marry LGBTs.

Site please. But if a church wants to get involved directly with
politics, their exemption should disappear, instantly.

>
> - Their ideas on decency and morality are from a fundie prospective,
> out
> - of touch with reality and the opinions of many, if not most people.
>
> BDK so you see everything -and- they know nothing.
>
> ? "Of Many" ? What About the 'other' Many :
> Who hold the Opposite Opinion Don't Their
> Rights {Opinions} Count Too ?

Nobody is making people marry people of the same sex. Nobody is making
people live with people instead of/before marrying them. As I said
before, I'm against most abortions, but their methods of combating them
are polarizing to an extreme degree.

>
> Oops BDK's Wisdom Cnacels Out The Freedoms.

They have the freedom to not do anything they don't approve of. Trouble
is, they want to force their version of morality on everyone else.

>
> > I'm against most abortions myself, but they accomplish nothing positive
> > due to the way they operate.
>
> Glad to hear that you do have some Moral Beliefs
> other than : If It 'Feels' Good - Just Do It !

ROTFL.

>
> > > BDK - ? So you are 'proclaiming' that the members
> > > of American Family Association (AFA) are {Evil}
> > > "Indecent" People ? -i-don't-know-about-that-
> > >http://action.afa.net/
> >
> - Proclaiming? No, just my opinion, just like yours.
> - Your's seems to be that the are doing something positive.
>
> Sure Do -i-say- SURE DO ! sound positive to me.
> "American Family Association" (AFA) that claims to
> represent and stand for Traditional American Family
> Values and Christian Moral Principles is BAD !?!
> http://action.afa.net/Detail.aspx?id=31
> ? BDK Is That Bad ?

As they practice them, yes, in many ways. People who claim to practice
"Christian Moral Principles (Why cap all three words?)" more often than
not prove to be less moral than the people they rave against. Look on
any news site for example after example. They are not really better than
anyone else.

>
> * Preservation of Marriage and the Family
> ? BDK Are You Against That ?

How are they being threatened by gay marriage?

>
> * Decency and Morality
> ? BDK Are You Against That ?

Whose version of it?

>
> * Sanctity of Human Life
> ? BDK Are You Against That ?

Here we mostly agree, I do believe abortion should be severely
curtailed, but I disagree with most of the AFA's views on it otherwise.

> .
>
> - Most of the members are misguided and easily swayed by the
> leadership of
> - the organization who seem to be about as evil and hypocritical as
> they
> - come, without being outright criminals..
>
> BDK so you see all -and- they know nothing.

A lot of them seem to very ignorant, to put it mildly. You have a
different opinion, no doubt. It's no big deal to me what you believe,
just don't try to force feed it to me, I'll puke it back at you.

>
> > >  .
> - - HELLO : No Reply Is Required
> - - -but-if-you-must-do-do-then-the-
> - - Follow-Ups are set to : alt.idiots & alt.stupid.idiots
> - - -cause- " Idiots-R-Us " ;;-}} ~ RHF
>
> - How cute.
>
> Yeah 'cute' enough so that you changed it,
> to send your reply back-at-me : making you
> a member of : " Idiots-R-Us " ;;-}}

Why wouldn't I change it? You had it set to not even reply to the group
you posted it in originally. Is it really necessary to play little games
like this? You are over 12 years old, right? Sometimes I really have
doubts.

>
> HELLO : Once Again : No Reply Is Required
> -but-if-you-must-do-do-then-the-
> Follow-Ups are set to : alt.idiots & alt.stupid.idiots
> -cause- " Idiots-R-Us " ;;-}} ~ RHF
>
> >
> > >  .
> > >  .
> - - - What a bunch of assclowns.
>
> BDK "AssClown" It's Your Word : You Own It :
> Wear It Proudly -cause- It Fits You Well ;;-}}

It's my word? Thanks, but it's not my invention, it's been around for at
least 30 years. And the leadership of the AFA have very strong
assclownish tendencies, if they aren't outright members of the club ;).

>
> - You seem to fit right in.
>
> BDK -with- Traditional American Family
> Values and Christian Moral Principles :
> * Preservation of Marriage and the Family
> * Decency and Morality
> * Sanctity of Human Life
>
> Yeah - Most Likely I Sure Do :o)
> -and- I will say an "Amen" to that - amen ~ RHF

Fine, nobody is stopping you from believing anything you want to
believe. You simply have a much different opinion than I do about the
AFA and other ultra conservative organizations, and their agendas, and
leadership than I do.

Isn't that our right to disagree?

cuh...@webtv.net

ungelesen,
29.09.2010, 13:20:0429.09.10
an
A B HO Butt Kisser woman (in Mississippi) tried to circumcise her
one year old boy at home.She (or somebody) wound up calling an
ambulance.The ambulance people called the Sherriff department.

I bought that couch this morning at the Goodwill store, $50.00.And I
also bought an old hardback book which was printed in 1916, The Irish
Orators.A History Of Ireland's Fight For Freedom.
I am really going to enjoy reading the book.
cuhulin, the Irish Orator

RHF

ungelesen,
29.09.2010, 14:18:4029.09.10
an
On Sep 29, 6:10 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:

> cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
> > Mississippi weighs WETBACK proposal.
> >http://www.clarionledger.com
>
> > What the hell do they mean, weighs?
> > WETBACKS ARE CRIMMINALS!
> > They (''They'') are NOT immigrants either!
> > cuhulin


- They were here first. Like the Kurds and the Gypsies.

'Special Dave' you are such a little 'kurd'

now go 'gypsy' along ~ RHF

Idiots-R-Us : Consider These Four Points
-wrt- Illegal Alien Invaders from Mexico
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5be3056359a4c2ca
.

Idiots-R-Us : Mexican Politicians are Angered


that the USA is Sending Mexican Criminals

back home to Mexico {Deporting Criminals}
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/669921d08ddb7804
.
=WRT= LA RAZA and AZTLAN :
The Aztec were either Forced by Natural Circumstances
and/or Weather Conditions to Wander Away from Aztlan;
or Forced {War} by other Early American Native Peoples
to leave Aztlan. -Oops-Yes- La Raza Left and Abandoned
"Aztlan" long before Europeans came to the New World.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/1dd7fed57b08d587
? NO IS THAT TRUE ? -D-O--H-!- The first Spaniard
http://ambergriscaye.com/pages/mayan/aztec.html
"Conquistadors" found and Conquered the The Aztecs
{La Raza} in Central Mexico : NOT in the USA or the
US South-West.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hern%C3%A1n_Cort%C3%A9s

oops - another inconvenient truth ~ RHF
.
.

RHF

ungelesen,
29.09.2010, 14:53:0129.09.10
an
On Sep 29, 12:23 am, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote:
> In article <6d00632b-85e7-449f-b2ec-
> 552356bdd...@x20g2000pro.googlegroups.com>, bpnjen...@yahoo.com says...

>
>
>
> > On Sep 28, 6:47 am, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote:
> > > In article <20717-4CA1E8A8-4...@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net>,
> > > cuhu...@webtv.net says...> BOYCOTT Home Depot.
> > > >http://action.afa.net/item.aspx?id=2147496231
>
> > > > Home Queerpot.BOYCOTT the Crap out of them.
> > > > cuhulin
>
> > > In fact your post made me decide to go to Home Depot for the things I
> > > needed for a small project. In reality, your post had the opposite
> > > effect from what you intended.
>
> > > Why do you guys care so much about what gays do? You seem to be WAY too
> > > interested.
> > > --
> > > BDK, non-jew leader of the non-existant paid jew shills!
>
> > Some people feel threatened by gays.  They are SOOOO Scary!
>
> Yeah, and you notice how many of the people raving about them end up
> being exposed as gay themselves eventually?

- Hill-larious.

BDK - What ? - Don't tell me that Hillary [RC]
wants to be a "Larry" {Cuhulin}

Hey Cuhulin ? - Would You Want a Set of Boobs
{Tiny Titties*} like Hillary [RC] ?
http://www.cartoonsbyhenry.com/political_cartoons/2008/20080401.jpg

just for the fun of it ;-} ~ RHF
.
* Not to be confused with -drum-roll-please-
The "TINY-TENNA" Active (Amplified) Antenna
http://www.hamradiofun.com/tinytenna.htm

bpnjensen

ungelesen,
29.09.2010, 15:05:0729.09.10
an
On Sep 29, 12:56 am, "D. Peter Maus" <DPeterM...@att.net> wrote:
>    If it were, it would have been done.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Speaking of which...this is just dandy...

http://www.tmz.com/2010/09/29/meg-whitman-gloria-allred-california-governor-republican-housekeeper-allegations/

An example of why the GOP uber-wealthy won't tackle the problem either
despite the lip service they pay to it.

RHF

ungelesen,
29.09.2010, 15:26:5729.09.10
an
On Sep 29, 9:10 am, BDK <TopSh...@sanity.com> wrote:
> In article <ff1e73a0-26f3-45e0-aab8-7184ffd64485
> @u31g2000pru.googlegroups.com>, rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net says...
- Site please.

The LGBT Press is full of it : On how they are
going to Target Churchs Catholics Momons
and others to Force Them To Accept LGBTs
as Members and Force them to preform
LGBT Marriages.

- But if a church wants to get involved directly
- with politics, their exemption should disappear,
- instantly.

So a Chuch Standing Up for It Faith To Oppressive
"The State" : Looses It's Rights to Be Free of State
Interference of it's Freedom of Religion.

That Ain't Freedom At All : If You Can NOT Exercise It [.]

> > - Their ideas on decency and morality are from a fundie prospective,
> > out
> > - of touch with reality and the opinions of many, if not most people.
>
> > BDK so you see everything -and- they know nothing.
>
> > ? "Of Many" ? What About the 'other' Many :
> > Who hold the Opposite Opinion Don't Their
> > Rights {Opinions} Count Too ?

- Nobody is making people marry people of the
- same sex.

That is part of the LGBT Agenda.

> Nobody is making
> people live with people instead of/before marrying them. As I said
> before, I'm against most abortions, but their methods of combating them
> are polarizing to an extreme degree.
>
>
>
> > Oops BDK's Wisdom Cnacels Out The Freedoms.

- They have the freedom to not do anything they
- don't approve of.

Do They Really Anymore ?

- Trouble is, they want to force their version of
- morality on everyone else.

Isn't that what the LGBT Community is Doing to
Traditional Christians Using the Oppressive Power
of "The State" to Force LGBT Marriage in the
Churches.

> > > I'm against most abortions myself, but they accomplish nothing positive
> > > due to the way they operate.
>
> > Glad to hear that you do have some Moral Beliefs
> > other than : If It 'Feels' Good - Just Do It !
>
> ROTFL.
>
> > > > BDK - ? So you are 'proclaiming' that the members
> > > > of American Family Association (AFA) are {Evil}
> > > > "Indecent" People ? -i-don't-know-about-that-
> > > >http://action.afa.net/
>
> > - Proclaiming? No, just my opinion, just like yours.
> > - Your's seems to be that the are doing something positive.
>
> > Sure Do -i-say- SURE DO ! sound positive to me.
> > "American Family Association" (AFA) that claims to
> > represent and stand for Traditional American Family
> > Values and Christian Moral Principles is BAD !?!
> >http://action.afa.net/Detail.aspx?id=31
> > ? BDK Is That Bad ?
>
> As they practice them, yes, in many ways. People who claim to practice
> "Christian Moral Principles (Why cap all three words?)" more often than
> not prove to be less moral than the people they rave against. Look on
> any news site for example after example. They are not really better than
> anyone else.

Many/Most are NOT Perfect -but- Why Target
them for Ridicule for Trying ?


> > * Preservation of Marriage and the Family
> > ? BDK Are You Against That ?

- How are they being threatened by gay marriage?

Churches Forced To Marry LGBTs.

Churches Forced To Have LGBT Pastors/Priests


>
> > * Decency and Morality
> > ? BDK Are You Against That ?

- Whose version of it?

To Each Their Own Including the Separation of
Church and "The State" -wrt- Religious Freedom.


> > * Sanctity of Human Life
> > ? BDK Are You Against That ?

- Here we mostly agree,
- I do believe abortion should be severely curtailed,

Simply go back to the original SCOTUS Ruling.
and follow the three separate trimester guidelines.

- but I disagree with most of the AFA's views on it otherwise.

You have your right and they too have their rights.

> >  .
>
> > - Most of the members are misguided and easily swayed by the
> > leadership of
> > - the organization who seem to be about as evil and hypocritical as
> > they
> > - come, without being outright criminals..
>
> > BDK so you see all -and- they know nothing.

- A lot of them seem to very ignorant,

Once Again BDK You Know It All
-and- they are simply 'ignorant'

- to put it mildly. You have a different opinion,
- no doubt. It's no big deal to me what you believe,
- just don't try to force feed it to me,

But . . . BDK isn't that what you are doing . . .

- I'll puke it back at you.

You seem to be a real good 'puker'


>
>
>
> > > >  .
> > - - HELLO : No Reply Is Required
> > - - -but-if-you-must-do-do-then-the-
> > - - Follow-Ups are set to : alt.idiots & alt.stupid.idiots
> > - - -cause- " Idiots-R-Us " ;;-}} ~ RHF
>
> > - How cute.
>
> > Yeah 'cute' enough so that you changed it,
> > to send your reply back-at-me : making you
> > a member of : " Idiots-R-Us " ;;-}}
>
> Why wouldn't I change it? You had it set to not even reply to the group
> you posted it in originally. Is it really necessary to play little games
> like this? You are over 12 years old, right? Sometimes I really have
> doubts.

" Idiots-R-Us " Don't We All !

> > HELLO : Once Again : No Reply Is Required
> > -but-if-you-must-do-do-then-the-
> > Follow-Ups are set to : alt.idiots & alt.stupid.idiots
> > -cause- " Idiots-R-Us " ;;-}} ~ RHF
>
> > > >  .
> > > >  .
> > - - - What a bunch of assclowns.
>
> > BDK "AssClown" It's Your Word : You Own It :
> > Wear It Proudly -cause- It Fits You Well ;;-}}
>
> It's my word? Thanks, but it's not my invention, it's been around for at
> least 30 years. And the leadership of the AFA have very strong
> assclownish tendencies, if they aren't outright members of the club ;).
>
>
>
> > - You seem to fit right in.
>
> > BDK -with- Traditional American Family
> > Values and Christian Moral Principles :
> > * Preservation of Marriage and the Family
> > * Decency and Morality
> > * Sanctity of Human Life
>
> > Yeah - Most Likely I Sure Do :o)
> > -and- I will say an "Amen" to that - amen ~ RHF
>
> Fine, nobody is stopping you from believing anything you want to
> believe. You simply have a much different opinion than I do about the
> AFA and other ultra conservative organizations, and their agendas, and
> leadership than I do.

- Isn't that our right to disagree?

As It Is Yours.

DEFCON 88

ungelesen,
29.09.2010, 15:42:4929.09.10
an
On Sep 29, 9:31 am, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:


> Can you imagine what America would be like if everybody in America were
> WETBACKS?
> Have you ever been to Mexico before? I have.
> Mexico SUCKS!!!
> Go see for yourself if you don't believe me.
>


I visited Juarez some years ago. Those people don't obey traffic laws,
they all drove like a bunch of maniacs. It was scary!

D. Peter Maus

ungelesen,
29.09.2010, 15:46:4629.09.10
an

Then you would really enjoy Chicago.

bpnjensen

ungelesen,
29.09.2010, 16:14:4729.09.10
an
> http://www.tmz.com/2010/09/29/meg-whitman-gloria-allred-california-go...

>
> An example of why the GOP uber-wealthy won't tackle the problem either
> despite the lip service they pay to it.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

And in the interest of fairness... :-) Meg Whitman responds...

http://www.tmz.com/2010/09/29/meg-whitman-housekeeper-allegations-gloria-allred-california-governor/

cuh...@webtv.net

ungelesen,
29.09.2010, 16:22:0729.09.10
an
They (''They'') drive like that around here too.Almost every day, local
tv news Skycopter 3 (WLBT channel 3 tv news) shows a video clip of at
least one or more auto/truck accident(s) There is no reason for auto
accidents.Unless due to really bad weather/storms, heart attack,
something of that nature.

First World War Officially ends
http://www.libertypost.org

World War Two did not Officially end till 1951, or thereabouts.
Lets me gits back up on my rooftop, I think I Likes it up thar.
cuhulin

RHF

ungelesen,
29.09.2010, 17:55:3029.09.10
an
On Sep 29, 12:05 pm, bpnjensen <bpnjen...@yahoo.com> wrote:

-
- http://www.tmz.com/2010/09/29/meg-whitman-gloria-allred-california-go...

BpnJ - You are stooping to a new low . . .
hello and welcome to my world ;;-}}

Oh Please would someone please exploit me
at $23 per Hours. ~ RHF

Again BpnJ Thank You -for- Proving Once Again
that Illegal Aliens are in-fact Taking Good Paying
$23 per Hour Jobs That Americans Want and Need.
.
Let The California Tax Payers and Voters Decide
Sentance MEG to Serve 4-Years Locked-Up in
Sacramento with a group of Hardened Career
Politicians -or- Set MEG Free to Spend All of
Her Money employing more poor people . . .
.
.
- An example of why the GOP uber-wealthy
- won't tackle the problem either despite the
- lip service they pay to it.

Sort of like the 'Detailed' Plan that Jerry Brown
has to Fix the Illegal Alien Problem . . . Oops
"JB" ain't got one; but promises to work with the
US Federal Government to "Fix Things" ROTFL
.
Please Remember That I Predicted : 12 AUG 2010
California Politics being what they are -imho-
Jerry Brown will be the next California Governor.
* California Über Alles {Jerry Brown}
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/27faca882fb518a0
.
Whether it is JERRY or MEG there is one thing the
next Governor of the State of California Brown must
do is DEMAND that each and every one of the
California Elected US Senators and US Congress
persons Demand that California get each and every
Dollar Pay by Californians in US Federal {IRS] Taxes
Returned to California in Federal Spending.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/27faca882fb518a0
.

cuh...@webtv.net

ungelesen,
29.09.2010, 18:26:2529.09.10
an
If somebody loses a penny on the sidewalk/parking lot, or a dollar, I
will put in my pocket.I found it first.
cuhulin

arthr...@webtv.net

ungelesen,
30.09.2010, 00:32:3530.09.10
an
On Sep 29, 2:18 pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Sep 29, 6:10 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
> > cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
> > > Mississippi weighs WETBACK proposal.
> > >http://www.clarionledger.com
>
> > > What the hell do they mean, weighs?
> > > WETBACKS ARE CRIMMINALS!
> > > They (''They'') are NOT immigrants either!
> > > cuhulin
>
> - They were here first. Like the Kurds and the Gypsies.
>
> 'Special Dave' you are such a little 'kurd'
>
> now go 'gypsy' along ~ RHF
>
> Idiots-R-Us : Consider These Four Points
> -wrt- Illegal Alien Invaders from Mexicohttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5be3056359a4c2ca

>  .
> Idiots-R-Us : Mexican Politicians are Angered
> that the USA is Sending Mexican Criminals
> back home to Mexico {Deporting Criminals}http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/669921d08ddb7804
>  .
> =WRT= LA RAZA and AZTLAN :
> The Aztec were either Forced by Natural Circumstances
> and/or Weather Conditions to Wander Away from Aztlan;
> or Forced {War} by other Early American Native Peoples
> to leave Aztlan. -Oops-Yes- La Raza Left and Abandoned
> "Aztlan" long before Europeans came to the New World.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/1dd7fed57b08d587
> ? NO IS THAT TRUE ? -D-O--H-!- The first Spaniardhttp://ambergriscaye.com/pages/mayan/aztec.html

> "Conquistadors" found and Conquered the The Aztecs
> {La Raza} in Central Mexico : NOT in the USA or the
> US South-West.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hern%C3%A1n_Cort%C3%A9s

>
> oops - another inconvenient truth ~ RHF
>  .
>  .

Didn't some historians claim that nearly all amerindians originate in
Asia ? P.S. Long time ago > 15-20 Kyears.

Die Nachricht wurde gelöscht

arthr...@webtv.net

ungelesen,
30.09.2010, 02:52:2530.09.10
an
On Sep 30, 1:14 am, Chïna Blüe Öyster Cult <chine.b...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> > > =WRT= LA RAZA and AZTLAN :
> > > The Aztec were either Forced by Natural Circumstances
> > > and/or Weather Conditions to Wander Away from Aztlan;
> > > or Forced {War} by other Early American Native Peoples
> > > to leave Aztlan. -Oops-Yes- La Raza Left and Abandoned
> > > "Aztlan" long before Europeans came to the New
> > > World.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/1dd7fed57b08d58
> > > 7
> > > ? NO IS THAT TRUE ? -D-O--H-!- The first
> > > Spaniardhttp://ambergriscaye.com/pages/mayan/aztec.html
> > > "Conquistadors" found and Conquered the The Aztecs
> > > {La Raza} in Central Mexico : NOT in the USA or the
> > > US South-West.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hern%C3%A1n_Cort%C3%A9s
>
> > > oops - another inconvenient truth ~ RHF
> > >  .
> > >  .
>
> > Didn't some historians claim that nearly all amerindians originate in
> > Asia ?  P.S. Long time ago > 15-20 Kyears.
>
> Does anybody think the US is going to hand land back to Mexico just for the heck
> of it?
>
> Anywise...the Red Paint People continued from North America across the Atlantic
> to settle on the British Isles. So while the Spanish may have been invaders of
> the New World, the English were just coming home to meet the family.
>
> --
> Damn the living - It's a lovely life.           I'm whoever you want me to be.
> Silver silverware - Where is the love?       At least I can stay in character.
> Oval swimming pool - Where is the love?    Annoying Usenet one post at a time.
> Damn the living - It's a lovely life.                              Blessed be.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Red Paint People lived in New England and SE Canada. How could they
cross the Atlantic ocean ? Did the Atlanteans give them a ride in
exchange for some trinkets ?

Die Nachricht wurde gelöscht

RHF

ungelesen,
30.09.2010, 11:36:5330.09.10
an

Three Major Pre-Columbian Migrations into North
American Two from Asia and one from Europe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Columbian_era

The first migration from Asia was from ancestors
of the Ainu people now in northern Japan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people
http://news.softpedia.com/news/9-Amazing-Things-About-the-Ainu-People-79277.shtml

NOTE - the Land-Bridge theory is countered by
the Coastal Migration theory resulting from
the Ice Ages & Lower Sea Levels & Exposed
Coastlines for travel by shore and boat.
.
WRT - The Aztec were themselves earlier Illegal
Foreign Alien Invaders of Mexico and supposedly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec
had come from "Aztlan" a mythical land of the north.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztlan

The Aztec were either forced by natural circumstances
and weather conditions to wander away from Aztlan;
or forced {war} by other early native people to leave Aztlan.
{ They Left and Abandoned Aztlan long before Europeans


came to the New World. }

-fwiw- who was here before the Maya and where the
Maya came from is unknown and a matter of speculation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_civilization

~ RHF
.
.

cuh...@webtv.net

ungelesen,
30.09.2010, 11:52:4530.09.10
an
Yes Suh, there was a strip of land, a land bridge, many, many Moons ago
betwixt and between Alaska and Asia.That is how they came to this
Continent.They simply walked across.The KISS Principle, don'tcha just
know?
cuhulin

dave

ungelesen,
30.09.2010, 13:06:4030.09.10
an

That would be when sea level is lower due to giant glaciers consistent
with the end of an ice age.

RHF

ungelesen,
01.10.2010, 15:56:5801.10.10
an
On Sep 30, 10:06 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:

> cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
> > Yes Suh, there was a strip of land, a land bridge, many, many Moons ago
> > betwixt and between Alaska and Asia.That is how they came to this
> > Continent.They simply walked across.The KISS Principle, don'tcha just
> > know?
> > cuhulin

- That would be when sea level is lower due
- to giant glaciers consistent with the end of
- an ice age.

More Water in the Glaciers meant less in
the Oceans thus a lower Sea-Level and
exposed Coastal Lands and Sea-Shores
to Migrate along . . .

NOTE - the Land-Bridge 'Theory' is countered
by the "Coastal Migration" 'Theory' resulting from


the Ice Ages & Lower Sea Levels & Exposed
Coastlines for travel by shore and boat.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/509a65d41e1ca3ae
.

cuh...@webtv.net

ungelesen,
01.10.2010, 22:03:1001.10.10
an
Gobekli Tepi.
http://www.stevequayle.com/index1.html

Gobekli Tepi is an amazing discovery.Check it out.
cuhulin

RHF

ungelesen,
01.10.2010, 22:50:4901.10.10
an
Idiots-R-Us : Liberal-Fascist Media Turning Anti-Hispanic*

* Anti-Minority -If- The Minority Will Not Toe The
Liberal-Fascist {Progressive Agenda} Party Line

CNN Anchor Rick Sanchez FIRED By The CNN Network Friday
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/10/01/cnn.sanchez/index.html?hpt=T2

Rick Sanchez is Cuban-American* {Hispanic}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Sanchez
* Actually Born in Cuba

Was Rick Sanchez Factually Correct
-but- Politically Incorrect in his comments . . .
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/10/01/2010-10-01_anchor_rick_sanchez_fired_by_cnn_over_comments_about_jon_stewart_jews_in_the_med.html

Were Rick Sanchez comments about Jon Stewart
being an open in-your-face Bigot* with a well know
Public Bias : "a bigot" and then said that he was
bigoted against "everybody else who's not like him.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/02/business/media/02cnn.html?src=busln

* About Jon Stewart being 'Jewish' or really about
Jon Stewart Being an Uber-Liberal-Fascist that
Daily Attacks Anyone and Everyone Who Is NOT !
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jsKwGqhY3jM5l3a5dDTb-bWGEk7gD9IJ7AG80?docId=D9IJ7AG80

About Jon Stewart on The Daily Show
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Stewart
-fwiw- Until today I did not know that Jon Stewart
is/was Jewish
-imho- Jon Stewart has always been a Media
Attack Dog directed at Young Viewers using
smears and half-truths to destroy anyone and
everyone who did not toe the Liberal-Fascist
Media Agenda.

? Do You Think {Feel} Jon Stewart is Liberal-Fascist
Media Attack Dog ?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20018334-503544.html

? Is Rick Sanchez 'Right' About Jon Stewart Being
Opening Bigot and Having a Liberal-Fascist Biases ?
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43025.html

? Does Jon Stewart being Jewish Minority "Trump"
Rick Sanchez being a Hispanic Minority in the overall
scheme of things in the Liberal-Fascist Media ?

? Why Can Jon Stewart {a Jew} Get Away with Being
a Bigot and Biased Daily for Years On-the-Air ?
-but- ? Rick Sanchez {a Hispanic} Can NOT Be a
Bigot and Biased Once without Getting Fired ?
-or- ? ? ? If It Is Not Jew -versus- Hispanic ? ? ?
-then- ! ! ! It Must Be About "Liberal-Fascism" ! ! !
About the Liberal-Fascist Control of the Media and
Attacking All Those Who are NOT Liberal-Fascists.

THE BIG QUESTION : Is CNN Being Racist In
Firing Rick Sanchez ? : It Sure Do Look Like It !
-and-i-think-so- ~ RHF
.
For ME the Underlying Issue Is NOT Jews in
American being a small Minority 2%~3% and
Wielding a very Considerable Influence in
American Economic, Cultural, Intellectual and
Political Life; including the Mass Media ?
http://ihr.org/leaflets/jewishlobby.shtml
Again for ME the Issue is NOT whether they are
Jewish {Cause Every Christian Has One Rabbi
and His Name Is Jesus : How Can I Hate Jews
If I Love Jesus} But Their Liberal-Fascist Politics
and Attack Tactics against all others.

=Translation= "NeoCons" = good, Good. GOOD !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism
=&= 'Liberal-Fascist' = bad, Bad. BAD !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Fascism
.
.

> -http://www.tmz.com/2010/09/29/meg-whitman-gloria-allred-california-go...

> Returned to California in Federal Spending.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/27faca882fb518a0


>  .
> Idiots-R-Us : Consider These Four Points

> -wrt- Illegal Alien Invaders from Mexicohttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5be3056359a4c2ca


>  .
> Idiots-R-Us : Mexican Politicians are Angered
> that the USA is Sending Mexican Criminals
> back home to Mexico {Deporting Criminals}http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/669921d08ddb7804
>  .
> =WRT= LA RAZA and AZTLAN :
> The Aztec were either Forced by Natural Circumstances
> and/or Weather Conditions to Wander Away from Aztlan;
> or Forced {War} by other Early American Native Peoples
> to leave Aztlan. -Oops-Yes- La Raza Left and Abandoned

> "Aztlan" long before Europeans came to the New World.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/1dd7fed57b08d587
> ? NO IS THAT TRUE ? -D-O--H-!- The first Spaniardhttp://ambergriscaye.com/pages/mayan/aztec.html


> "Conquistadors" found and Conquered the The Aztecs
> {La Raza} in Central Mexico : NOT in the USA or the

> US South-West.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hern%C3%A1n_Cort%C3%A9s

Nickname unavailable

ungelesen,
02.10.2010, 00:01:5402.10.10
an
On Oct 1, 9:50 pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Idiots-R-Us : Liberal-Fascist Media Turning Anti-Hispanic*
>
> * Anti-Minority -If- The Minority Will Not Toe The
> Liberal-Fascist {Progressive Agenda} Party Line
>
> CNN Anchor Rick Sanchez FIRED By The CNN Network Fridayhttp://www.cnn.com/2010/US/10/01/cnn.sanchez/index.html?hpt=T2

>
> Rick Sanchez is Cuban-American* {Hispanic}http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Sanchez
> * Actually Born in Cuba
>
> Was Rick Sanchez Factually Correct
> -but- Politically Incorrect in his comments . . .http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/10/01/2010-10-01_anchor...

>
> Were Rick Sanchez comments about Jon Stewart
> being an open in-your-face Bigot* with a well know
> Public Bias : "a bigot" and then said that he was
> bigoted against "everybody else who's not like him.http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/02/business/media/02cnn.html?src=busln

>
> * About Jon Stewart being 'Jewish' or really about
> Jon Stewart Being an Uber-Liberal-Fascist that
> Daily Attacks Anyone and Everyone Who Is NOT !http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jsKwGqhY3jM5l3a5dDT...
>
> About Jon Stewart on The Daily Showhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Stewart

> -fwiw- Until today I did not know that Jon Stewart
> is/was Jewish
> -imho- Jon Stewart has always been a Media
> Attack Dog directed at Young Viewers using
> smears and half-truths to destroy anyone and
> everyone who did not toe the Liberal-Fascist
> Media Agenda.
>
> ? Do You Think {Feel} Jon Stewart is Liberal-Fascist
> Media Attack Dog ?http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20018334-503544.html

>
> ? Is Rick Sanchez 'Right' About Jon Stewart Being
> Opening Bigot and Having a Liberal-Fascist Biases ?http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43025.html

>
> ? Does Jon Stewart being Jewish Minority "Trump"
> Rick Sanchez being a Hispanic Minority in the overall
> scheme of things in the Liberal-Fascist Media ?
>
> ? Why Can Jon Stewart {a Jew} Get Away with Being
> a Bigot and Biased Daily for Years On-the-Air ?
> -but- ? Rick Sanchez {a Hispanic} Can NOT Be a
> Bigot and Biased Once without Getting Fired ?
> -or- ? ? ? If It Is Not Jew -versus- Hispanic ? ? ?
> -then- ! ! ! It Must Be About "Liberal-Fascism" ! ! !
> About the Liberal-Fascist Control of the Media and
> Attacking All Those Who are NOT Liberal-Fascists.
>
> THE BIG QUESTION : Is CNN Being Racist In
> Firing  Rick Sanchez ? : It Sure Do Look Like It !
> -and-i-think-so- ~ RHF
>  .
> For ME the Underlying Issue Is NOT Jews in
> American being a small Minority 2%~3% and
> Wielding a very Considerable Influence in
> American Economic, Cultural, Intellectual and
> Political Life; including the Mass Media ?http://ihr.org/leaflets/jewishlobby.shtml

> Again for ME the Issue is NOT whether they are
> Jewish {Cause Every Christian Has One Rabbi
> and His Name Is Jesus : How Can I Hate Jews
> If I Love Jesus} But Their Liberal-Fascist Politics
> and Attack Tactics against all others.
>
> =Translation= "NeoCons" = good, Good. GOOD !http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism
> =&= 'Liberal-Fascist' = bad, Bad. BAD !http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Fascism

it is impossible for liberals to be fascists. fascists hate liberals,
trade unionist, socialists, communists, jews(because most of them are
liberal), the weak, the disabled, minorities, homosexuals. they are
intolerant of other views and religions. they practice bigotry,
racism, and homophobia, etc. say, i just described the modern
conservative movement:)

arthr...@webtv.net

ungelesen,
02.10.2010, 00:51:3102.10.10
an
On Oct 1, 10:03 pm, cuhu...@webtv.net wrote:
> Gobekli Tepi.http://www.stevequayle.com/index1.html

>
> Gobekli Tepi is an amazing discovery.Check it out.
> cuhulin

That may just be the oldest Holy Place in the world, as far as we know
today. 11,500 years ago. That is much older than the Sumerian and
other ancient cultures. It is even older than the original Jericho
settlement. The archeologists can't read the pictograms either . Very
mysterious civilization indeed . Pretty high up in the mountains too.

Beam Me Up Scotty

ungelesen,
02.10.2010, 12:19:4602.10.10
an

Fascists and Socialists kill themselves and each other.... the link
being they kill anyone, it is gets them one goose step closer to their
utopia.

Nickname unavailable

ungelesen,
02.10.2010, 13:06:1202.10.10
an
On Oct 2, 11:19 am, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-
Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:

The aristocrats and gentlemen of the Right who made up the majority of
Hitler's cabinet hated the concept of democracy even more than the
Nazis did, All over Germany, thugs in brown shirts took possession of
the streets and roughed up Communists, socialists, and Jews; they
chased socialist mayors and officials out of government buildings

http://www.buy.com/prod/hitler-and-his-secret-partners/q/loc/106/30426378.html

Chapter 1: Financing the 1933 Elections
On the cold winter weekend of January 28, 1933, Germany was officially
without a government. Chancellor Kurt von Schleicher and his cabinet
had resigned on Saturday afternoon, and eighty-six-year-old President
von Hindenburg had not yet appointed a new chancellor. A nervous
tension spread over Berlin. Everyone waited for news; most felt
Germany was at an historic turning point.
Who would be the next chancellor? Hitler - the leader of the largest
party, the Nazis, who pledged to destroy democracy? Papen - the
aristocratic horseman who had been chancellor before Schleicher, but
who had no popular following? Perhaps Schleicher again, if he could
persuade the Social Democrats, the second largest political party in
the country, to join him in a coalition? Governing Germany in the
middle of an economic depression with nine million unemployed was not
an enviable task. The country had just had three different chancellors
in rapid succession. By tradition, the leader of the largest party was
usually appointed chancellor. But the Nazis had been the largest party
for over a year, and so far intrigues and political maneuvering had
succeeded in keeping Hitler out of power. Everyone guessed what a
Hitler government would mean. He had not kept his militarism, anti-
Semitism, and dictatorial ambitions a secret.
Political intrigues were so numerous that weekend that no one really
knew what was going on. Sensational rumors were being spread
throughout the city. Some said an army coup was imminent, that
Schleicher and the generals were about to abduct President von
Hindenburg and declare martial law. There were also rumors of an armed
Nazi uprising and a general strike by the socialist workers.
Hitler and Hermann Goering, the second most powerful man in the Nazi
party, stayed up all night on Sunday, January 29, trying to figure out
what Hindenburg might do. It was not until after 10 A.M. on Monday
that Hitler received a summons to the president's office. Even at that
point, the Nazis were not certain whether Hitler would be appointed
chancellor or Hindenburg would ask him to serve as vice-chancellor.
Across the street from the Chancellery, in the Kaiserhof Hotel,
Hitler's lieutenants were waiting, unsure of what was going on.
Goebbels, the Nazi propaganda chief, said:

In the street the crowd stands waiting between the Kaiserhof and the
Chancellery. We are torn between doubt, hope, joy and despair. We have
been deceived too often to be able, wholeheartedly, to believe in the
great miracle. [S.A.] Chief of Staff Roehm stands at the window (with
binoculars) watching the door of the Chancellery from which the
Fuehrer [the leader, Hitler] must emerge. We shall be able to judge by
his face if the interview was a success. Torturing hours of waiting.
At last, a car draws up in front of the entrance. The crowd cheers.
They seem to feel that a great change is taking place....
A few moments later, he is with us. He says nothing. His eyes are full
of tears. It has come! The Fuehrer is appointed Chancellor. He has
already been sworn in by the President of the Reich. All of us are
dumb with emotion. Everyone clasps the Fuehrer's hand....Outside the
Kaiserhof, the masses are in a wild uproar....The thousands soon
become tens of thousands. Endless streams of people flood the
Wilhelmstrasse. We set to work...at once.
Hitler's victory was not a complete one by any means. He had been
appointed chancellor in a coalition government. Papen was to be his
vice-chancellor, and all the powerful cabinet posts were held by
Papen's conservative allies, rather than the Nazis. But at the moment,
Hitler's followers weren't worried about the details; for them the
only thing that mattered was that Hitler was chancellor. They had come
to power! All day, crowds gathered in the square outside the Kaiserhof
Hotel and the Chancellery.
At dusk Nazi storm troopers in their brown uniforms gathered in the
Tiergarten park, along with men of the Stahlhelm, an
ultranationalistic veterans' organization, for a torchlight victory
parade through the center of Berlin. As soon as it was dark, they came
marching by the thousands through the Brandenburg Gate, carrying
swastika flags and the black, white, and red flags of the German
empire. Bands marched between the units, beating their big drums as
the men sang old German military songs. But as each band came to the
Pariser Platz, where the French embassy was located, they stopped
whatever they were playing and, with an introductory roll of drums,
broke into the tune of the challenging war song "Victorious We Will
Crush the French."
The torches carried by the marchers glowed hypnotically in the
darkness. To foreign witnesses, it was a frightening sight. "The river
of fire flowed past the French Embassy," Ambassador François-Poncet
wrote, "whence, with heavy heart and filled with foreboding, I watched
this luminous wake." Liberal Germans found it an "ominous sight." It
was, wrote one German reporter, "a night of deadly menace, a nightmare
in...blazing torches."
As the marchers came by the Chancellery, there were tumultuous cheers
for Hitler, who stood in an open window saluting them. He was so
excited that night, he could hardly stand still. He was raising his
arm up and down heiling, smiling, and laughing so much, his eyes
filled with tears. "It was an extraordinary experience," recalled
Papen, who was standing behind Hitler. "The endless repetition of the
triumphal cry: 'Heil, Heil, Sieg Heil!' rang in my ears like a
tocsin." When Hitler turned to speak with Papen, his voice choked with
emotion. "What an immense task we have set for ourselves, Herr von
Papen - we must never part until our work is accomplished." Hitler and
Papen were much closer allies than anyone at the time imagined.
It was after midnight when the parade ended. Being too excited to
sleep, Hitler, Goering, Goebbels, and a few other Nazis sat up talking
for hours. They could hardly believe it had actually happened: they
were in the Chancellery at last. That evening, Hitler said to
Goebbels, "No one gets me out of here alive." It was one of the few
promises he kept.
On the morning of January 31, Hitler's storm troopers gave the German
people a glimpse of what Nazi rule would be like. All over Germany,
thugs in brown shirts took possession of the streets and roughed up
Communists, socialists, and Jews; they chased socialist mayors and
officials out of government buildings and even broke into the private
homes of their political enemies. When people complained to Papen, he
laughed. "Let the storm troopers have their fling." Among his friends
at the Herrenklub, an exclusive gentlemens club, he boasted: "We've
hired Hitler." To a skeptic he replied: "What do you want? I have
Hindenburg's confidence. Within two months we will have pushed Hitler
so far in the corner that he'll squeak."
The facts seemed to support Papen's optimism. Not only did Papen have
Hindenburg"s confidence, but in fact the old president had promised
never to receive Hitler unless he was accompanied by his vice-
chancellor. Papen also held the important post of minister-president
of Prussia, Germany's largest and most powerful state. From the
composition of the cabinet, it seemed all the real power was in the
hands of the conservatives: the aristocratic General von Blomberg was
minister of defense, Baron von Neurath, a career diplomat, was foreign
minister, and the old archreactionary Hugenberg was both minister of
economics and minister of agriculture. The Nazis were outnumbered six
to two.
The two Nazis in the cabinet, Wilhelm Frick and Goering, held posts
that were thought to be insignificant. Frick was minister of the
interior, but he did not control the police, which in Germany was
under the jurisdiction of the individual state governments. Goering
was made minister without portfolio, but with the promise that he
would be minister of aviation as soon as Germany had an air force. He
was also named minister of the interior of Prussia, an office that did
not receive much notice by the public but did control the Prussian
police.
The aristocrats and gentlemen of the Right who made up the majority of
Hitler's cabinet hated the concept of democracy even more than the
Nazis did. These men belonged to the old ruling class of the kaiser's
Germany. They wanted to regain their old position of supremacy, lost
in 1918. They wanted to restore the monarchy, suppress the socialist
unions, avenge the loss of World War I, and make Germany the dominant
power in Europe. It was obvious why such reactionary nationalists
helped put Hitler in power: their goals and his were very similar.
Few people knew the full extent of Papen's collaboration with Hitler.
Historians have said he "did more than anyone else outside the Nazi
party to help Hitler to power." Papen helped Hitler because he was
trying to control him and use the Nazis for his own aims.
Papen was a handsome aristocratic-looking man with distinguished gray
hair and an officer's mustache. From an impoverished family of the
Westphalian nobility, he became a General Staff officer, a skillful
horseman, and a man of great charm. After a successful marriage to the
daughter of a wealthy Saar industrialist, he bought a large block of
shares in the Center party's newspaper, Germania. For a short time in
1932, Papen was chancellor, but his government had no popular support.
Papen believed it would be rather easy for an aristocratic officer
like himself to manipulate a former corporal, like Hitler, and thus be
able to use the Nazi's mass following to accomplish the aims of the
upper-class conservative nationalists.
Hitler immediately began to outmaneuver his conservative colleagues.
He reported to the cabinet that the Center party was making impossible
demands and could not be counted on to form a coalition with the Nazis
and the Nationalists that would have a majority in the Reichstag.
Because of this situation, Hitler argued he would have to call for new
elections. The only "demand" the Center party made was that Hitler
promise to govern constitutionally, but none of the other members of
the cabinet bothered to check Hitler's statement. They agreed to new
elections on the condition that Hitler promise that the composition of
the cabinet would not change regardless of the outcome of the voting.
New elections would provide Hitler with a chance to improve on the
poor results the Nazis had received at the polls the past November. If
the Nazis won a clear majority in the elections, they might be able to
get rid of their coalition partners. Hitler had every reason to
believe the election campaign would be a big success. The entire
machinery of government, including the radio, was now under Nazi
control and could be used for campaigning. The party had been flooded
with new applicants for membership since he had become chancellor. In
the cabinet meeting on February 2, Hitler discussed his preparations
for the elections. Wilhelm Frick, the Nazi minister of the interior,
proposed that the government set aside a million marks for the
election campaign. Count von Schwerin von Krosigk, the minister of
finance, rejected this suggestion. Hitler did not force the issue. He
would have to get the money elsewhere.
The theme of the Nazi election campaign was to be the fight against
communism. Hitler opened the attack in a late-night radio broadcast to
the nation on February 1. He blamed the hard times Germany had gone
through since 1918 on the Social Democrats, which had been the largest
party in the Reichstag during most of those years. The Social
Democrats, he reminded his listeners, were actually a Marxist party.
"Fourteen years of Marxism," he said, "have ruined Germany; one year
of bolshevism [communism] would destroy her. The richest and fairest
territories of the world would be turned into a smoking heap of ruins.
Even the sufferings of the last decade and a half could not be
compared to the misery of a Europe in the heart of which the red flag
of destruction has been hoisted." He went on to promise to put the
unemployed back to work and save the peasants from bankruptcy.

On his fourth day in office, just after opening the election
campaign, Hitler took time off to attend a very important dinner. He
had been invited to the home of General von Hammerstein, chief of
staff of the army, to meet the leading officers of the army and navy.
In a speech that lasted almost two hours, Hitler explained his plans
for rebuilding German military power.
The generals were the real power in Germany during the Weimar period.
After World War II, many Germans tried to cover up the role certain
members of the Officer Corps had played in helping to put Hitler in
power. Many historians naively accepted this view, but the real story
is quite different. Traditionally, the German Army ruled from behind
the scenes and had the final "power to veto" any important issue.
After the loss of World War I, the Versailles Treaty severely
restricted the size of the German Army. The only way the generals
could maintain mass training and develop new weapons was to finance
private paramilitary units, like the Free Corps, with secret army
funds.
Hitler not only began his career as an army agent, but even in the
1930s he was supported by a powerful faction in the army. Over several
years, General von Schleicher, who was in charge of a secret informal
political department of the army, funneled over ten million marks to
Hitler. Why? Many military officers wanted an authoritarian government
that could unify the nation. The people needed to be infused with a
new spirit of patriotism because powerful interests were planning a
war of revenge against the Allies. Naturally there was a division of
opinion among the generals as to how much power to give Hitler.
Hindenburg originally had strong reservations about appointing a man
from a lower-class background, like Hitler, chancellor. However, the
aggressive action the Nazis took against Communists was admired by
Hindenburg, and his relationship with Hitler rapidly improved.
One day, Hindenburg summoned Hitler when Papen was away from Berlin.
Hitler informed the president that Papen was out of town and reminded
him of the rule he (Hindenburg) had made, that the chancellor could
visit him only when accompanied by the vice-chancellor. "The old
gentleman [Hindenburg]," said Hitler, "replied that he wished to see
me alone, and that in the future the presence of Papen could be
regarded as unnecessary. Within three weeks, he had progressed so far
that his attitude towards me became affectionate and paternal. Talking
of the elections fixed for the 3rd of March, he said, 'What are we
going to do if you fail to get a majority? We shall have the same
difficulties all over again.'"
At the beginning of the election campaign, Hitler and Papen persuaded
old President von Hindenburg to sign an emergency decree to protect
law and order. The decree gave Nazi officials the right to prohibit
public meetings. Newspapers could be suppressed if they "incited"
civil disobedience or published "false" reports.

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