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Using D size battery adapter in a Grundig S350 or Tecsun BCL 3000 question

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homepc

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May 7, 2008, 10:40:49 AM5/7/08
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Does anyone have practical experience using AA batteries with D size battery
adapters with a Tecsun BCL 3000 radio? If I get a good quality set of
2700 mAh AA Powerex batteries along with a set of D size adapters, how long
will they last compared to a set of D size alkaline batteries?

I was thinking of getting a D size battery charger but the cost of a good
one is pretty high. I've got a very good AA battery charger already, so I
am exploring the cheaper route.


user

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May 7, 2008, 1:40:46 PM5/7/08
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homepc wrote:

> Does anyone have practical experience using AA batteries with D size
> battery adapters with a Tecsun  BCL 3000 radio?  If I get a good quality
> set of 2700 mAh AA Powerex batteries along with a set of D size adapters,
> how long will they last compared to a set of D size alkaline batteries?
>


these D size are only 4000mAh, so 2700/4000 is somewhere 0,6 x the time.


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homepc

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May 7, 2008, 3:25:30 PM5/7/08
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I already have a C401FS model Powerex charger for AA size batteries and it
works great. I only use rechargeable AA batteries (2300 mAh and under) for
my small radios and recently purchased Canon camera. However as I
mentioned, a D size battery charger is pretty expensive considering I only
have one radio that uses that size batteries. I was looking at the charger
model you suggested earlier today, and I just can't justify the cost along
with four Powerex D size rechargeables.

I am getting about 4-5 months use on a set of 4 alkaline batteries in my
Tecsun BCL 3000 radio now. If a set of rechargeable AA batteries could last
for a 3-4 weeks under similar conditions, I would be very happy with that.
I was just curious if anyone tried running this model radio with a set of
high-end 2700 mAh AA batteries already and what running time to expect
before they go flat.

A post just received earlier estimated 60% run time compared to regular
alkaline batteries. I thought that would be extremely optimistic.


"Bart Bailey" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> In Message-ID:<6ajUj.31801$KJ1....@newsfe19.lga> posted on Wed, 7 May
> 2008 09:40:49 -0500, homepc wrote: Begin


>
>>Does anyone have practical experience using AA batteries with D size
>>battery
>>adapters with a Tecsun BCL 3000 radio?
>

> Don't have that radio but use the AA2D adapters with my E1


>
>>If I get a good quality set of
>>2700 mAh AA Powerex batteries along with a set of D size adapters, how
>>long
>>will they last compared to a set of D size alkaline batteries?
>

> Will last only a fraction of the time of "D" alkies, but the recycle
> factor could amortize their use versus full size "D"s.


>
>>I was thinking of getting a D size battery charger but the cost of a good
>>one is pretty high. I've got a very good AA battery charger already, so I
>>am exploring the cheaper route.
>

> If you're already using and are familiar with Powerex products you might
> consider their versatile charger, Maha MH C808M, which will do all your
> batteries regardless of what you end up with. http://tinyurl.com/yg53y6
> When you switch to exclusive use of re-chargeables for radios, cameras,
> flashlights etc., it'll pay for itself soon enough.


junius

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May 7, 2008, 4:27:14 PM5/7/08
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On May 7, 2:37 pm, Bart Bailey <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> In Message-ID:<6ajUj.31801$KJ1.27...@newsfe19.lga> posted on Wed, 7 May

> 2008 09:40:49 -0500, homepc wrote: Begin  
>
> >Does anyone have practical experience using AA batteries with D size battery
> >adapters with a Tecsun  BCL 3000 radio?  
>
> Don't have that radio but use the AA2D adapters with my E1
>

Hi Bart,

I'm curious to know, how many hours of play do you get running your E1
off the (I assume 2700 mAh?) AA NiMHs?

Best,

Junius

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RHF

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May 7, 2008, 8:04:44 PM5/7/08
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On May 7, 2:56 pm, Bart Bailey <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> In
> Message-ID:<5f329b98-d0ed-4718-9c69-eca96bef6...@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
> posted on Wed, 7 May 2008 13:27:14 -0700 (PDT), junius wrote: Begin  

>
>
>
> >Hi Bart,
>
> >I'm curious to know, how many hours of play do you get running your E1
> >off the (I assume 2700 mAh?) AA NiMHs?
>
> I think (without looking) the batteries I have in it are the
> Sanyo Eneloop 2000 mAh, I also use Uniross Hybrio 2100 mAh,
> so it could be either.  
>
> >Best,
>
> >Junius
>
> Sorry to not have any specific data because it runs on the wart most of
> the time and when I've taken it over to the park for quieter listening
> I've never exhausted the batteries, although I usually carry a spare
> set. It's the camera that eats battery capacity, so the spare set for it
> gets used more often.

BB - Well start a Test of the Batteries in the E1 to the point
where the Radio says it need new Batteries and get back to
us with the Answer ;;-}} ~ RHF
.

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RHF

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May 8, 2008, 6:36:28 AM5/8/08
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On May 7, 5:17 pm, Bart Bailey <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> In
> Message-ID:<2b8c48f2-448b-479c-a79b-aa5911ea9...@q24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
> posted on Wed, 7 May 2008 17:04:44 -0700 (PDT), RHF wrote: Begin  

- - Well start a Test of the Batteries in the E1 to the point
- - where the Radio says it need new Batteries and get back to
- - us with the Answer

- The volume level would be a factor too,
- and if you think I'm gonna sit and wait,
- listening to whatever, well...
- Say, you've got an E1,
- get back to us with your results <g>


BB,

' 0 ^ 0 '
\====/
*BAG*

Already did a "D" Battery Test in the Eton E1 Radio.

Eton E1 Radio - In Seach of the Low Battery Icon
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/message/1031

* Over One Hundred Hours (100 Hrs) on a Fresh Set
of New Alkaline Batteries before the [LOW BATT]
Icon comes on (is visible).

* TOTAL - 103 Hours of Operating my Eton E1 Radio
usingDC Power {Batteries} with 'moderate' (1/4) Audio
Volume listening on the AM, FM and Shortwave Bands;
with the Dial (LCD) Light (LEDs) Turned 'OFF'.

"AA" Battery Run-down-Time Rough Approximation :
Duracell Size "D" Alkaline Battery 15000 mAh -versus-
Sanyo Eneloop "AA' 2000 mAh would come out to about
14 Hours of Listening at 2~3 Hours per Day; and that
would be about 5~7 Days of Listening on a Set of "AA"
Rechargeable NiMH Batteries. The "AA" NiHM Batteries
would have to be required to Recharge about Once-a-Week.

yes it is that simple - e1'ing you all ~ RHF
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Including 'future' Grundig G1 Radio Owners
Check-Out the Eton E1 Radio Group on YAHOO !
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RHF

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May 8, 2008, 10:47:27 PM5/8/08
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On May 8, 4:11 am, Bart Bailey <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> In
> Message-ID:<1d7da65e-8e34-4bb5-96c5-72be4ccef...@b5g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
> posted on Thu, 8 May 2008 03:36:28 -0700 (PDT), RHF wrote: Begin  

>
> >"AA" Battery Run-down-Time Rough Approximation :
> >Duracell Size "D" Alkaline Battery 15000 mAh -versus-
> >Sanyo Eneloop "AA' 2000 mAh would come out to about
> >14 Hours of Listening at 2~3 Hours per Day; and that
> >would be about 5~7 Days of Listening on a Set of "AA"
> >Rechargeable NiMH Batteries.  The "AA" NiHM Batteries
> >would have to be required to Recharge about Once-a-Week.
>
> Not surprising at all, seemed to consistently run more than a week
> between recharges back when I used to use its countdown sleep timer
> (30 minutes per shot) on batteries alone but I never logged any precise
> numbers so your data is way more useful to the OP.

- BTW: is the yahoo reflector still two camps, pro and con, butting
heads,
- or is there any good info being revealed? I un-subbed awhile back.

It is a cyclical event.

- ...and an almost unrelated note - I checked HRO about
- their listing for the AN-1 and they didn't know why it was
- shown in the current catalog, been out of stock at all
- stores for a few years now.

BB,

Was that the Sony AN-1 Active Whip LW/MW/SW Antenna ?
-or- the Sony AN-LP1 Active Shortwave Only Loop Antenna ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/4aea3ebde8bf1746
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/545678bf5098cf62
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3bb2663569523461

The newer Sony AN-12 Active Broad-Band Antenna
-via- eBay -from- Japan seams to be the only way to
presently buy one of thoses. But at around $180 from
Japan to the USA with a ?questionable? Warranty . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/7e06d8e697db0c51

The McKay Dymek DA-100E Broad-Band Active Antenna
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/0328.html
that covers : 50? kHz to 30 MHz would appear to be
the better choice; along with the MFJ-1024 Active Antenna
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/1132.html
Coverage LW + AM/MW + SW : 50 kHz to 30 MHz
+ Plus there is the LF Engineering H-800 "Skymatch"
http://www.grove-ent.com/ANT15.html
Active Antenna that covers 10 kHz ~ 50 MHz

-fwiw- Bought my last Sony AN-LP1 Antenna from the
AES Store in Las Vegas back in 2004 or there-abouts.
Amateur Electronic Supply (AES) - http://www.aesham.com/

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Visual Reference for their Images and Technical Content :
They Do Not Constitute an Offer "For Sale".


it pay$ to consider the alternatives - iane ~ RHF {pomkia}
.
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GoTo => http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
.
RHF's Standard "Shortwave Radio Listener (SWL) Antennas Group"
Reference Message Signature-Line => http://tinyurl.com/25zbrg
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/411dac3b4a1798e0
.
* Remember 55.5% of Shortwave Radio Listening (SWL)
is the Shortwave Antenna =>http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf
.
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SHACK INFO =>http://tinyurl.com/2skmxm
Shortwave Radio / Receiver and SWL Antenna Info
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SWR3:SWL:INFO
.

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RHF

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May 9, 2008, 5:08:57 AM5/9/08
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On May 8, 9:48 pm, Bart Bailey <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

* Snip *

- Thanks for the Dymek link, sounds nice
- but I'm leaning toward Robert Crane's Twin Coil Ferrite
- as I've always liked AMBCB DXing and there's already
- enough metal in the air around here for SWLing.
-
- I have a passive tuned loop (RS 15-1853) but the twin coil
- sounds like it might have a sharper peak/null which would
- be interesting and I doubt it would overload the E1.

BB,

The C.Crane Twin Coil Ferrite Rod Antenna is a very good
performing AM/MW Directional Antenna for improving AM/MW
Radio Reception of weak and Distant Radio Stations [DX].
http://www.ccrane.com/antennas/am-antennas/twin-coil-ferrite-am-antenna.aspx

For it to be utilized properly you have to both :
Tune-It {Electrical Resonance for a Frequency}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_resonance
and Position-It {Rotation in the Horizontal Plane
-aka- Azimuth} - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azimuth

The C.Crane Twin Coil Ferrite Rod Antenna is designed to
be Tuned -but- Rotation in the Horizontal Plane {Movement
about it's Azimuth} is not a designed-in feature. So you
either have to design your own method of manually rotating
the Antenna Head Inside-the-Room or Electrically Rotating
the Antenna Head Outside-the-House : To get the best
performance out of it.
http://www.ccrane.com/antennas/am-antennas/twin-coil-ferrite-am-antenna.aspx
-source- C. Crane Company
http://www.ccrane.com/

However There Is Another Alternative {Consider the Alternatives}

The Quantum "QX" Loop v2.0 featuring a 7.5" Ferrite Rod
http://dxtools.com/QX.htm
Antenna Head which Covers the AM/MW Band : 530~1800 kHz.
The Quantum "QX" Loop features both of the necessary
http://dxtools.com/QX.htm
functions of a supperior AM/MW Loop Antenna :
You can Tune-It {Electrical Resonance for a Frequency}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_resonance
and You can Position-It {Rotation in the Horizontal Plane
-aka- Azimuth} - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azimuth
-source- DXTools.com & Radio Plus+
http://dxtools.com/index.htm
-by- Gerry Thomas [KB4JFM]

Note - Cost about Twice (2X) as much as the C.Crane
Twin Coil Ferrite Rod Antenna -but- for a serious AM/MW
DXers the 'extras' are worth the Price.

Palomar LA-1 Loop Antenna Amplifier Base Unit plus the
AM / Medium Wave Loop Element 530-1700 kHz
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/mwant/0445.html
http://www.palomar-engineers.com/Loop_Antenna/loop_antenna.html

Note - Costs more-than the Quantum "QX" Loop Ferrite
Rod Antenna; and has less AM/MW DXing features.

IMHO - For the Serious AM/MW Radio DXer presently the
Quantum "QX" Loop 7.5" Ferrite Rod Antenna offers the
Biggest Bang and Best Value in a Ready-Made AM/MW
Antenna that is Designed for the craft of AM/MW DXing.

DISCLAIMER - All Links/URLs are provide as sources of
Visual Reference for their Images and Technical Content :
They Do Not Constitute an Offer "For Sale".

.


.
it pay$ to consider the alternatives - iane ~ RHF {pomkia}

-ps- Performance countS !

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