SPECIAL: Joe the Plumber Needs to Incorporate
Dave
dxAce
Dave wrote:
> Sole proprietorships leave a lot of goodies on the table.
Obama will take those goodies away!
NoBama!
Dave
> Sole proprietorships leave a lot of goodies on the table.
Now it appears Joe the Plumber may be a fake.
http://steveyoungonpolitics.com/say-it-isnt-so-joe-wurzelbacher-not-a-real-plumber/
dxAce
Dave wrote:
But what Obama said was NOT fake, boy! So you can spin it anyway you want retard, it
still comes out the same.
NoBama!
Drifter
> Sole proprietorships leave a lot of goodies on the table.
Morning David. from what i'm hearing on AM570, out of
Youngstown, OH. ; there is "no joe the plumber". another
empty shirt. not even a good try by the people behind
john mac. looks like more bush-crime-family crap. but,
they/i could be wrong. i also noticed that strange smile
on macs face, scary, like he wanted to jump up and down
like a small child. when he didn't smile, he looked like
a corpse. could have been the make-up, ala nixon like.
i have talked to mac a few times, over the last few years,
and he does look much better in person.
Drifter...
Dave
Good Morning,
Whoever he is, somebody is earning big bucks coordinating his satellite
time. I heard a rumor on the Bill Press Show that Joe is related to
Charles Keating of all people. Whatever. They're making it sound like
Obama would take his money and give it to ACORN; not so; Obama
understands that unless the infrastructure (physical, educational, etc.)
must be paid for. Old Joe the Plumber needs roads to get to his customers.
We must stop borrowing money to give tax breaks to wealthy people. That
is robbing America's children to support Paris Hilton.
Brody
not to worry.. If Joe the Plumber is concerned about being a
non-person, he just has to declare that The Obama is right and The Obama
will reinstate his existence.
Brody
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/10/digging_dirt_on_joe_is_a_bad_i.html
October 16, 2008
Digging dirt on Joe is a bad idea
Lee Cary
This afternoon ABC's Charlie Gibson reported on his hourly radio news
report the results of his network diggin' dirt on Joe the Plumber.
Gibson reported that Joe has a "lien" for failing to "pay his property
tax." The lead-in, stated by a co-reporter, was "Oh, by the way, Joe..."
Here's a guy who's just an average citizen, approached by a campaigning
Obama, who expresses his opinion. It's his right as a citizen.
Problem is, what Joe said isn't consistent with the ABC party line. So
Joe is now in the crosshairs, and they'll stay on Joe the Plumber in an
effort to ruin his life and destroy his credibility.
This is just a taste of the "Thugocracy" that Michael Barone wrote about.
Criticize Obama and the old big media will work hard to ruin you. This
is extremely dangerous for this democracy.
cuh...@webtv.net
cuhulin
saltyfi...@gmail.com
Joe Plumber is as fake as Barack Obama. The latter is an economic
nightmare.
saltyfi...@gmail.com
> Dave wrote:
> > Dave wrote:
>
> >> Sole proprietorships leave a lot of goodies on the table.
>
> > Now it appears Joe the Plumber may be a fake.
>
>
> http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/10/digging_dirt_on_joe_is_a_...
>
> October 16, 2008
> Digging dirt on Joe is a bad idea
> Lee Cary
> This afternoon ABC's Charlie Gibson reported on his hourly radio news
> report the results of his network diggin' dirt on Joe the Plumber.
>
> Gibson reported that Joe has a "lien" for failing to "pay his property
> tax." The lead-in, stated by a co-reporter, was "Oh, by the way, Joe..."
>
> Here's a guy who's just an average citizen, approached by a campaigning
> Obama, who expresses his opinion. It's his right as a citizen.
>
> Problem is, what Joe said isn't consistent with the ABC party line. So
> Joe is now in the crosshairs, and they'll stay on Joe the Plumber in an
> effort to ruin his life and destroy his credibility.
>
> This is just a taste of the "Thugocracy" that Michael Barone wrote about.
>
> Criticize Obama and the old big media will work hard to ruin you. This
> is extremely dangerous for this democracy.
Yes, this is exactly what happened in Nazi Germany as well as in Mao
Tse Dung's Cultural Revolution.
Millions dead soon followed.
G_d Save America!
Telamon
wrote:
Pathetic.
If you want some respect I suggest you read up on your American history
to find out how the country used to support it self before the personal
income tax.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
BDK
No, "Joe" just isn't what he was made out to be. I know several people
who know him. It has nothing to do with "party lines", it's just the
truth.
--
BDK
BDK Klan leader?
kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster
Dave
Import tariffs?
RHF
<telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> In article <A0HJk.4404$Tu6.2...@newsfe14.iad>, Dave <d...@dave.dave>
Barack Hussein Obama's "Income Tax"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZQ03kgB6Bg
= Spread It Around
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4z8DUL2tgE
= Wealth Redistribution System
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfW2v2nq_Tc
.
Obama's "Magic 95% Won't Pay Anymore" is Really
60%/40% : Meaning that the 60% of Hard Working
American Families will be Forced to Give More
{Pay Out-in-Taxes} to Support the 40% Who
Actually Receive {Get-Paid} when they File Taxes
{amounting to a Negative Income Tax}.
http://en.wikipedia.org
/wiki/Distribution_of_wealth#In_the_United_States
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-ps- MWB This Political Off-Topic Thread was
started by "Dave" (OP) and Not-Me; with 13
'other' Post Not-by-Me -but- It's All "RHF's"
Fault for trying to set the Record Straight
and Giving an Alternative Opinion -aka- the
The Right-Thinking-Other-Half-of-the-Story.
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yada, Yada. YADA ! ~ RHF
.
Mike
> .
> -ps- MWB This Political Off-Topic Thread was
> started by "Dave" (OP) and Not-Me; with 13
> 'other' Post Not-by-Me -but- It's All "RHF's"
> Fault for trying to set the Record Straight
> and Giving an Alternative Opinion -aka- the
> The Right-Thinking-Other-Half-of-the-Story.
> .
> yada, Yada. YADA ! ~ RHF
>
Thank goodness we can rely on Roy to show us "the truth."
Roy, the problem with you is that you think your propagandistic URLs
are more truthful than the propagandistic URLs that the other side
produce. In reality, all you do is double the crap.
Folks are capable of deciding for themselves, they don't need you to
"set the Record Straight."
Mike
RHF
Mike please don't 'read-into' what I write :
Simply "Read" what I write Example-as-Written :
"The Right-Thinking-Other-Half-of-the-Story"
* Giving an Alternative Opposing Opinion *
'da other-half of de truth' according to rhf ~ RHF
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-ps- Mike this is my second post out of 16
-and- I did not start this thread -but- go
ahead and attack the consevative posters
while you give the liberals a free pass to
post their Left-Thinking-One-Half-of-the-Story.
[Which If It Is Unchecked Really Is Propaganda]
.
Mike
>
> - Show quoted text -
I have done my best to ask ALL OT political posters to stop. I have
not extended a "pass" to anyone. I will admit I am particularly
disappointed in you, since it wasn't that long ago that you were
asking people to make an attempt to remember that this is a shortwave
newsgroup. Your attempt to suggest that I am only interested in
stopping conservative extremists, like yourself, is just another
attempt on your part to make it look like you're the one being
wronged. In reality, YOU are the one "wronging" all of us that
believe
the is a SHORTWAVE newsgroup.
To make it clear:
I wish everyone - Left and Right - would return to shortwave. I can
read the political sites on my own. I don't need the help of either
side.
SHORTWAVE, please. If you have to engage in this juvenile nonsense, at
least try to offset it with a few shortwave-related posts.
When was the last time you turned a shortwave radio on, Roy?
Mike
Louisville, KY
rhf...@gmail.com
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Click on my profile for more information..
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email my home address. Have open door policy at my house so drop ins
most welcome. Serious inquiries only.
Roy
P.S. Justin and Dylan yes that is my home address. You are welcome to
stay with me, come over when you get into town, I am a night owl so
don't worry about the hour. Looking forward to seeing you!
Telamon
wrote:
You get a gold star.
The Fed's should go back to earning cash from tariffs and drop the
income taxes. This is the only way we can prevent trade imbalances from
occurring.
This country needs to drop NAFTA like a hot potato and protect the labor
rates in this country. We can bring manufacturing jobs back to this
country instead of shipping them off to the lowest poor standard of
living country.
Next you will figure out that you can tax the hell out of the "rich" in
this country and not collect anything close to what the middle class can
pay because we make and spend most of the money.
Do not be suckered into fear, envy or other negative emotions by the
mass media as it causes you to react instead of think.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
John Barnard
What about the corporations that can get away with not paying any income
taxes?
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN1249465620080812?sp=true
JB
Telamon
John Barnard <jf...@shaw.ca> wrote:
Businesses use loopholes in tax code. Maybe there should be a minimum
alternative tax on businesses so they pay at least some money on the
profit made by them.
Only corporations should pay income tax. Businesses should pay taxes on
profits. Individuals should not normally be paying a corporate tax
unless they make the decision to incorporate. Anyone that is just an
employee should not pay an income tax. People should not be penalized
for making money before they can even spend it.
The government should support itself with sales taxes, license fees,
usage fees, corporate taxes, and tariffs. Property taxes for
individuals should be eliminated and only corporations should pay
property taxes.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
RHF
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dxAce
John Barnard wrote:
Corporations don't pay taxes anyway! They are merely tax 'collectors'. The
consumer pays the taxes.
Dave
>
> Businesses use loopholes in tax code. Maybe there should be a minimum
> alternative tax on businesses so they pay at least some money on the
> profit made by them.
>
> Only corporations should pay income tax. Businesses should pay taxes on
> profits. Individuals should not normally be paying a corporate tax
> unless they make the decision to incorporate. Anyone that is just an
> employee should not pay an income tax. People should not be penalized
> for making money before they can even spend it.
>
> The government should support itself with sales taxes, license fees,
> usage fees, corporate taxes, and tariffs. Property taxes for
> individuals should be eliminated and only corporations should pay
> property taxes.
>
It looks good on paper. I think the "New World Order" Genie being out
of the bottle precludes it.
Telamon
wrote:
It worked before and it can work again.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
dxAce <dx...@DXersForMcCain.co.ke> wrote:
I caution you on the notion that business paying a tax that is passed
along to the consumer being the same thing as the consumer paying the
tax directly on earnings. What's the difference? The consumer of does
not pay the tax until he spends his money. Once you earn it you can
save it, invest it before spending it. This leads to a significant bias
to save then buy instead of buy now and pay interest, which has gotten
us to where we are today.
Most importantly, when you earn the money you actually get your hands
on it. That does not happen with todays income tax payroll deductions.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
John Barnard
its own sources of revenue other than milking the small guy with
personal income taxes.
Loopholes make life way too easy for most corporations (off-shore HQ's
anyone?)
JB
John Barnard
profits and tax the small guy earning trying to earn a living. We all
know where most people get their money from in the first place.
JB
dxAce
John Barnard wrote:
Isn't London the off-shore headquarters of CanaDuh?
RHF
<telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> In article <48FAE0D6.FC82F...@DXersForMcCain.co.ke>,> > > > In article <GB%Jk.337$YN3...@newsfe12.iad>, Dave <d...@dave.dave>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > >> Telamon wrote:
> > > >>> In article <A0HJk.4404$Tu6.2...@newsfe14.iad>, Dave <d...@dave.dave>
- I caution you on the notion that business paying
- a tax that is passed along to the consumer being
- the same thing as the consumer paying the tax
- directly on earnings. What's the difference?
- The consumer of does not pay the tax until he
- spends his money. Once you earn it you can save it,
- invest it before spending it. This leads to a
- significant bias to save then buy instead of buy
- now and pay interest, which has gotten us to where
- we are today.
Savings are Good for America as a Nation and helps
to keep most Americans Financially Healthy too.
- Most importantly, when you earn the money
- you actually get your hands on it. That
- does not happen with todays income tax
- payroll deductions.
Don't forget the Social Security Payroll Taxes too.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California
Taxes are part of the "Cost of Doing Business"
and the "Cost of Doing Business" is pasted
along to the Consumer of the Goods and Services
provided by that Business =ERGO= Consumers End
Up Actually Paying the Taxes Levied on Businesses.
[ Business Taxes : Hidden Taxes That We All Pay ]
.
Business Taxes that are Levied on American
Business add to the Cost of American Goods
and Services an Artificially Price them Higher
then Imported Products. This is Bad for American
Businesses, Employees and Consumers.
.
A National Sales Tax on All Goods and Services
both Imported and American Made - Does Two Very
Important Things :
1 - Taxes Both Imported and American Made Equally
2 - Prices Both Imported and American Made Fairly
Plus this Tax is Not Hidden : You See It Listed
with Every Purchase = ouch, Ouch. OUCH !
.
Simple Trickle-Down and Trickle-Up Economics :
There-is-a-Balance
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/53826d97bef498eb
National Sales Tax on All Good and Services
would be a better way to Level the Fair Cost
of a Federal Programs on both Imported and
Domestic Goods and Services.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ce2ab5dd493917a2
Giving American Made Goods and Services an
Equal Price footing as Imports at Home and
Overseas.
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cuh...@webtv.net
Bonanza is on Radio tb.
cuhulin
John Barnard
dxAce
John Barnard wrote:
I must have hit a sore spot with that one!
You keep trying, boy.
John Barnard
JB
dxAce
John Barnard wrote:
You just keep trying, boy! Make CanaDuh proud!
John Barnard
JB
dxAce
John Barnard wrote:
Unlike you and CanaDuh I've already succeeded.
You keep trying, boy!
cheley_b...@live.com
jf...@my-deja.com
> Unlike you, I try and succeed; now go hit those business books!
>
Steve Lare is such a successful "business major" that he keeps on
complaining about being cheated by The Huntington Investment Company.
As Forrest Gump says, "Stupid is as stupid does."
dxAce
"jf...@my-deja.com" wrote:
> On Oct 22, 6:11 pm, John Barnard <j...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> > Unlike you, I try and succeed; now go hit those business books!
> >
> > JB-
> Steve Lare is such a successful "business major" that he keeps on
> complaining about being cheated by The Huntington Investment Company.
Successful in that I know I was cheated!
If the guy says he's going to do one thing, and turns around and does another,
not my fault, I had no control over that, at that point in time.
It would be my fault if I did not initiate action against him, which I've done.
John Barnard
rooting for a political party that's getting flushed down the crapper -
very impressive credentials!
JB
dxAce
John Barnard wrote:
Speaking of crap... you're full of it, boy!
But then again, what would one expect from a dumbass Canuck?
Now go ask your dumbass mommie for some help with that radio.
John Barnard
imagination!
JB
dxAce
John Barnard wrote:
Even if I had no imagination I'd still be better off than some dumbass Canuck!
Now go check with mommie, boy.
RHF
JB - 'Imagination' is so passé !
Here in the Year of Our Lord Obama it is now très chic
to say that wonderful magic word "Obamagination©!"
"Obamagination©!" Believing in the Un-Imaginable Tomorrow
{ Envisioning a New Future One-Day-at-a-Time }
* Transformational Change Within Ourselves :
Creating a New Better World Beyond Ourselves
* Being One With The Obama : In the Here-and-Now of Forever
.