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IBOCcrock

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Feb 22, 2008, 4:17:32 PM2/22/08
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"Radio on the iPod? Only if it's Internet Radio"

"From Dave Van Dyke, in reference to my earlier post about hints that
streaming Internet radio capability is coming to the iPhones and WiFi-
enabled iPod Touches:

I saw this same mention of 'iTunes radio' in a previously published
piece and asked an Apple tech about this. His response was that it was
a misnomer description of the wireless capability iTunes uses to
download music to iPhones. He said (with a straight face) that Apple
had no immediate plans for a 'radio-type' function on its players
because "Steve considers traditional radio to be a an old technology
and he doesn't want to 'taint' his cutting edge technology.

How about Internet radio? "That's a different story" my contact
stated! This might be funny if only it didn't sound exactly like the
kind of sentiment we would likely hear from Steve Jobs. Internet
radio, however, that's "a different story." And speaking of which, if
you have an iPhone or an iPod touch, sample some streaming radio here.
It works! It's courtesy of WFMU and a New Jersey-based software
company called Tversity."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/11/radio-on-the-ip.html

Oh, no HD chipsets?

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RHF

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Feb 22, 2008, 10:49:07 PM2/22/08
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I B OC'Deed and Half-Crocked,
.
Please put an "IBOC :" at the Start of your Subject-Lines for
these Anti-IBOC and Hate "HD" Radio Posts; and you will
most likely not see me Posting To Them with this Message.
.
IBOC : Steve Jobs Considers Traditional Radio to be a an Old
Technology
.
HOWEVER - IF You 'Choose' to leave-off the IBOC at the
Start of the Subject-Line for these Anti-IBOC and Hate "HD"
Radio Posts : You Can Count-On Me Posting To Them and
the Subject-Line will be simplified to :
.
"IBOC : . . . "
.
Which means that you Lose Promoting and Making Your
Anti-IBOC and Hate "HD" Radio Message" for a Posting Cycle.
.
It's your 'Choice' and for you the 1st is the better option.
.
- - - - - - Message To/For One and All - - - - - -
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In Reality many of IBOCcrock's Postings are in-fact
Anti-Terrestrial-Radio -meaning- Anti-AM-&-FM-Radio
-aka- the 'old' Media and promoting the "New" Media
-meaning- anything Digital except IBOC.
.
straight-talk from the heart of a 'free'
over-the-air am & fm radio listener ~ RHF
.

Telamon

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Feb 22, 2008, 11:39:38 PM2/22/08
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<4f3a7315-3ed8-4f90...@o77g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
RHF <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote:

< SNIP >

I have a better idea. Stop posting here altogether.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

RHF

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Feb 23, 2008, 4:55:42 AM2/23/08
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On Feb 22, 8:39 pm, Telamon
<telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> In article
> <4f3a7315-3ed8-4f90-a28d-e8bb7a457...@o77g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
-
- I have a better idea.
- Stop posting here altogether.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California

Telamon - Physician Heal Thy Self. ~ RHF

-ps- If you stop Reading Me the 'effectively' for You I have.

ACTUALLY - TELAMON I WANY AND URGE YOU TO STAY.

I think that you could be a great contributor to this Newsgroup :
Provided that you got down from the High Horse and talked to
People {Readers} on their own Level.

Talk to a "Newbie" like the in-fact do not know all that you know.

Maybe about a 1/4th of this Newsgroup is on your level of
Technical Knowledge; others like me are lacking; and many
like me just plain don't want to know all that 'technical stuff'.

Telamon - I Recommend that Once-a-Week You Endeavor To :
* Post an Answer to One Newbies Question
* Post One Shortwave Radio Reception Report (SWR3)
* Post One : Me-Too / Atta-Boy / That Was Interesting
Reply to a Post that you though was deserving.
* Post Info about One Website that is Shortwave Radio
or Radio Related.
+ That Something Extra that is Uniquely You :o)

Imagine Yourself and 20 Other Members of this Newsgroup
Being Positive Contributers to this Newsgroup and Posting
Four (4) such Messages and Replies each Week : That
would add-up to 80 Messages about 11 per Day for each
Day of the Week. The Quality Signal Level would Go Up
and even -if- the Noise Level stayed the same the Signal
to Noise Level would improve Greatly.

Telamon - It's Your Newsgroup -but- Only -if- You Contribute
in a Positive Way -by- Being-a-Contributor

Knocking On Me simply makes you out to be a Whinner
and simply adds to the Noise Level of he Newsgroup -and-
Telamon - I Believe That You Are Better Than That.

Telamon - Be Better At Being Yourself - Love The Reason
For You Being Here as a Member of Rec.Radio/Shortwave :
More Than You Hate Me or Anyone Else Here.

- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California
-

Telamon Once Again - I hope that we are communicating
and creating a better common understanding. ~ RHF
.

helm...@worldnet.att.net

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Feb 23, 2008, 5:21:27 AM2/23/08
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On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:17:32 -0800 (PST), IBOCcrock
<ibocis...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>"Radio on the iPod? Only if it's Internet Radio"
>

Steve Jobs is an ASS HOLE!
If he wasn't such a greedy punk Apple would lead Not Windows.

dave

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Feb 23, 2008, 8:19:01 AM2/23/08
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Steve sounds a little weird.

Pocke...@gmail.com

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Feb 23, 2008, 1:41:38 PM2/23/08
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On Feb 23, 5:21�am, helms...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:17:32 -0800 (PST), IBOCcrock
>
> <ibocisacr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >"Radio on the iPod? Only if it's Internet Radio"
>
> Steve Jobs is an ASS HOLE!
> If he wasn't such a greedy punk Apple would lead Not Windows.

Doesn't change the facts - HD chipsets will go nowhere.

Telamon

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Feb 23, 2008, 4:13:26 PM2/23/08
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In article
<32f39402-62f1-4c73...@q70g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
RHF <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote:

> Telamon - Physician Heal Thy Self. ~ RHF
>
> -ps- If you stop Reading Me the 'effectively' for You I have.

Nope. I tried that and watched you trash the news group as you drove
other people off it.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

RHF

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Feb 24, 2008, 5:17:44 AM2/24/08
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On Feb 23, 1:13 pm, Telamon
<telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
- -
- - Telamon - Physician Heal Thy Self. ~ RHF
- -
- - -ps- If you stop Reading Me the 'effectively' for You I have.
-
- Nope. I tried that and watched you trash the
- news group as you drove other people off it.

-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California
-

Dang Telamon,

Do you real honestly believe that I do have the Ability
to Drive {Force} People Away from this Newsgroup.

OK Lets See If It Works :
shoo shoo away telamon,
Shoo Shoo Away Telamon.
SHOO SHOO AWAY TELAMON !

sorry to keep bugging you telamon
by being alive and still here ~ RHF
http://www.shoo.org/Pics/Logo-Home.jpg
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* * * Un- Snip * * * Here Once Again Is :
My Positive Message of Hope for Telamon and 'others'.
[ Each of You Can Make A Difference. ]

TELAMON I WANT AND URGE YOU AND OTHERS TO STAY.

I think that you could be a great contributor to this Newsgroup :
Provided that you got down from the High Horse and talked to
People {Readers} on their own Level.

Talk to a "Newbie" like they in-fact do not know all that you know.
+ Talk To Them {Think of Them as Yourself Way Back When}
- Don't Talk At Them
- Don't Talk Down To Them

Telamon "You" Build A Better Newsgroup By Being
A Positive Contributor Yourself :

NOT- By Wishing Other Members Would Go Away.

NOT- By Telling Other Members To Go Away.

teli-baby - i know that is a 'clueless' idea ~ RHF
.

barnegatdx

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Feb 24, 2008, 7:29:35 AM2/24/08
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The College radio stations, and the Listener supported ones

( Jazz 88 / WBGO http://www.wbgo.org/ ) are where all the new stuff
happens.

& of course, WBCQ's " Alternative Programming"

where else would you hear radio TimTron and " Lost Disc radio " . .

RHF

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Feb 24, 2008, 11:06:13 AM2/24/08
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IBOC : Radio On The iPod ? - Only If It's Internet Radio !
http://groups.google.com/group/hd-radio/msg/60632f80f52a1878

Radio On The iPod & iPhone ? - Only If . . .
It's a "Listen Live" AM/FM Radio Station on the Internet !
http://groups.google.com/group/hd-radio/msg/1016fc1e08bb9a6d

OOPS ! - Many/Most Old Media {Terrestrial} AM/FM Radio Stations
now have websites on the Internet that Feature a "Listen Live"
Streaming Audio Function -so-by-default- That would make each
and every iPod and iPhone an AM/FM Radio. :o)
. . . and that is something to 'think' about ~ RHF
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On Feb 23, 10:41 am, PocketRa...@gmail.com wrote:
IBOC : Steve Jobs considers traditional radio to be a an old
technology
-
- Doesn't change the facts


- HD chipsets will go nowhere.

-

Pocket Radio - Water Seeks It's Own Level In Time.

The same can be said of Technological Change : Technology
Raises To It's Highest Level of Acceptance Over Time.

True Generational Change usually occurs over a Period
of 16~19 Years : The Time it takes for a bew Generation
to be Born with a New Technology {Change} and Grow-Up
as Natural Users of that Technology.

"HD" {IBOC} Radio is presently going through it's
Earily Adapter Phase.

It will Suceed or Fail with the Public Acceptance of
"HD" FM Radio; and AM Radio will simple be going
along for the ride.

=WRT= Old Media {Terrestrial} AM/FM Radio :
Significantly the Age Groups over the Age of 35 Years
are still primarily AM/FM Radio Listeners which
translates to a continued Market Share for terrestrial
based AM/FM Radio Broadcasters for two to three
decades to come into the future*.
* Yes - AM/FM Radio has a Future as a Business
for Many Years to Come !

- it's about iboc 'hd' radio ~ RHF
Hello and Welcome to the "HD Radio" NewsGroup*
* http://groups.google.com/group/hd-radio/
HD RADIO GROUP => http://tinyurl.com/27kwyt
.
- - - the digital divide : i draw the line @ iboc 'hd' radio - - -
.
.
BE ADVISED - Starting Next Monday, 25 Feruary 2008
The Complete Text All of My Replies to these IBOC
"HD" Radio Posts will be done on the "HD Radio"
Newsgroup on Google. The only thing that you will see
here is the Subject Line Title and a Link to the Posted
Message : Which is what you see above the Line :
- - - the digital divide : i draw the line @ iboc 'hd' radio - - -
.
PLUS - There will be an "IBOC" at the Start of My IBOC Posts
and Replies here on Rec.Radio.Shortwave
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/e99697a5ccf91902
.

Telamon

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Feb 24, 2008, 5:53:01 PM2/24/08
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In article
<a764b614-d94d-4663...@v3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
RHF <rhf-new...@pacbell.net> wrote:

> On Feb 23, 1:13 pm, Telamon
> <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> - -
> - - Telamon - Physician Heal Thy Self. ~ RHF
> - -
> - - -ps- If you stop Reading Me the 'effectively' for You I have.
> -

Sorry, bozo. I've tried this and in your case it didn't work.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

RHF

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Feb 25, 2008, 2:35:32 AM2/25/08
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On Feb 24, 2:53 pm, Telamon
<telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> In article
> <a764b614-d94d-4663-b4b4-1a33f321f...@v3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,

>
>  RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > On Feb 23, 1:13 pm, Telamon
> > <telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> > - -
> > - - Telamon - Physician Heal Thy Self. ~ RHF

- - -ps- If you stop Reading Me the 'effectively' for You I have.

-restated-
Tealmon - If You 'Choose' To Stop Reading Me :
Then "Effectively" For You I Have Gone [.]

-


- Sorry, bozo. I've tried this and in your case it didn't work.

-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California
-

Telamon,

Option # 1 - Well then expect to see me each day that
you visit here. {Go Ahead Make a Career Out of It :-{

Option # 2 - Ignore The "BOZO" {That Was Easy :-}
http://www.bigkidcollectables.com/catalog/minibozobop.jpg
-pow- Have At It : Bop-the-Bozo {Imagine It's Me}
-ref- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bozo_the_Clown

But - Think About It telamon -if- You had put as much work
into Posting Positive On-Topic Items that were related to
Shortwave Radio : That would have Added-Up-To 80 Messages
just for this Week :

Yes 80 Answers {Replies} to Questions by Newbies.

Yes 80 Contributions {Replies} to Posts by Others.

Yes 80 Shortwave Radio Reception Reports; SW Band
Conditions, etc.

Yes 80 simple Me-Too / Atta-Boy / That Was Interesting
Replies to a Post that you though was deserving.

Yes 80 FYI [Info] Posts with Information about Websites
that are Shortwave Radio or Radio Related.

Yes Any Combination of 80 Posts That Are That


Something Extra that is Uniquely You :o)

Telamon Remember - That the 80 Pings that You Make
the Personal 'Choice' to Create -also- Resulted In 80 Pongs
that I in Defense of Myself was Force to Reply-To.

(OT) : Telamon - Come Into The Light . . .
and Say "NO" To The Dark-Side !


telamon - it's you personal 'choice' learn to live with it
and please don't whine about it in the future ~ RHF
.

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