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cheley_b...@live.com

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Aug 26, 2008, 9:21:41 AM8/26/08
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A guide to the things you won't hear from Your Heroes at the RNC


http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=12138

dxAce

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Aug 26, 2008, 9:40:43 AM8/26/08
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cheley_b...@live.com wrote:

> A guide to the things you won't hear from Your Heroes at the RNC
>
> http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=12138

Speaking of your 'heroes', I noticed that Mary Jo Kopechne wasn't mentioned in
that 'tribute' to Ted Kennedy last night.

I wonder why?


Dave

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Aug 26, 2008, 10:04:01 AM8/26/08
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Probably the same reason you never hear about Morning Joe's dead intern.

RHF

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Aug 26, 2008, 10:17:31 PM8/26/08
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On Aug 26, 7:04 am, Dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
- - - cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote:
- - - A guide to the things you won't hear from Your Heroes at the
 RNC
- - - http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=12138

- - dxAce wrote:
- - Speaking of your 'heroes', I noticed that Mary Jo Kopechne
- - wasn't mentioned in that 'tribute' to Ted Kennedy last night.
- -
- - I wonder why?

Dave -wrote-
- Probably the same reason you never hear
- about Morning Joe's dead intern.

Dave,

Now let's see that would be Joe Scarborough who
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough
was 1000 Miles away when the accident happen.

D'Oh ! - While Ted Kennedy was in the Car
http://www.krige-page.com/Galley.jpg
and in the Water with Mary Jo Kopechne when
http://www.ytedk.com/waterlevels2.gif
she was Killed due to his criminal neglect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kennedy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Jo_Kopechne

~ RHF
.

asswi...@138mail.com

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Aug 26, 2008, 11:13:07 PM8/26/08
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On Aug 26, 8:40 am, dxAce <dx...@NoBamaNoBiden.com> wrote:

> Speaking of your 'heroes', I noticed that Mary Jo Kopechne wasn't mentioned in
> that 'tribute' to Ted Kennedy last night.
>
> I wonder why?

The same reason you never mention the "disability" checks hard working
Americans are forced to give you monthly.
Some things are just too embarrassing to discuss.

After all you do have an image to protect don't you Mr. "CONservative
small gubermit just leave me alone Republican"?

After seeing the girth and gigantic ass of Teddy it appears you two
have more than just hypocrisy in common.

dxAce

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Aug 27, 2008, 6:00:28 AM8/27/08
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asswi...@138mail.com wrote:

> On Aug 26, 8:40 am, dxAce <dx...@NoBamaNoBiden.com> wrote:
>
> > Speaking of your 'heroes', I noticed that Mary Jo Kopechne wasn't mentioned in
> > that 'tribute' to Ted Kennedy last night.
> >
> > I wonder why?
>
> The same reason you never mention the "disability" checks hard working
> Americans are forced to give you monthly.

You're a clueless little queer, aren't you, boy?

dxAce

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Aug 27, 2008, 6:07:37 AM8/27/08
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asswi...@138mail.com wrote:

> On Aug 26, 8:40 am, dxAce <dx...@NoBamaNoBiden.com> wrote:
>
> > Speaking of your 'heroes', I noticed that Mary Jo Kopechne wasn't mentioned in
> > that 'tribute' to Ted Kennedy last night.
> >
> > I wonder why?
>
> The same reason you never mention the "disability" checks hard working
> Americans are forced to give you monthly.

And by the way, the 'check' was deposited in my account early this morning. There I
mentioned it, boy!

D Peter Maus

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Aug 27, 2008, 10:07:43 AM8/27/08
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* Health care is too expensive, so the Clinton administration
is putting a high-powered corporate lawyer in charge of making it
cheaper. (This is what I always do when I want to spend less money —
hire a lawyer from Yale.) If you think health care is expensive now,
wait until you see what it costs when it's free.


* The Democrats are the party that says government will make
you smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn.
Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work, and
then they get elected and prove it.
.

* Many reporters, when they go to work in the nation’s capital,
begin thinking of themselves as participants in the political
process instead of glorified stenographers.


* The whole idea of our government is this: If enough people
get together and act in concert, they can take something and not pay
for it.


* ...Daniel Patrick Moynihan is the archtypical extremely smart
person who went into politics anyway instead so doing something
worthwhile for his country. So maybe he owes all of us an apology...


* The American political system is like a gigantic Mexican
Christmas fiesta. Each political party is a huge piñata — a
papier-mâché donkey, for example. The donkey is filled with full
employment, low interest rates, affordable housing, comprehensive
medical benefits, a balanced budget and other goodies. The American
voter is blindfoled and given a stick. The voter then swings the
stick wildly in every direction, trying to hit a political candidate
on the head and knock some sense into the silly bastard.


* Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey
and car keys to teenage boys.


* The second item in the liberal creed, after
self-righteousness, is unaccountability. Liberals have invented
whole college majors— psychology, sociology, women's studies— to
prove that nothing is anybody's fault. No one is fond of taking
responsibility for his actions, but consider how much you'd have to
hate free will to come up with a political platform that advocates
killing unborn babies but not convicted murderers. A callous
pragmatist might favor abortion and capital punishment. A devout
Christian would sanction neither. But it takes years of therapy to
arrive at the liberal view.


* At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child — miserable,
as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding,
ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of
sniveling brats.


* I have often been called a Nazi, and, although it is unfair,
I don't let it bother me. I don't let it bother me for one simple
reason. No one has ever had a fantasy about being tied to a bed an
sexually ravished by someone dressed as a liberal.


* The principal feature of American liberalism is
sanctimoniousness. By loudly denouncing all bad things — war and
hunger and date rape — liberals testify to their own terrific
goodness. More important, they promote themselves to membership in a
self-selecting elite of those who care deeply about such things....
It's a kind of natural aristocracy, and the wonderful thing about
this aristocracy is that you don't have to be brave, smart, strong
or even lucky to join it, you just have to be liberal.


* You can't get good Chinese takeout in China and Cuban cigars
are rationed in Cuba. That's all you need to know about communism.


* You can't shame or humiliate modern celebrities. What used to
be called shame and humiliation is now called publicity. And forget
traditional character assassination; if you say a modern celebrity
is an adulterer, a pervert and a drug addict, all it means is that
you've read his autobiography.


* Freedom is not empowerment. Empowerment is what the Serbs
have in Bosnia. Anybody can grab a gun and be empowered. It's not
entitlement. An entitlement is what people on welfare get, and how
free are they? It's not an endlessly expanding list of rights — the
"right" to education, the "right" to food and housing. That's not
freedom, that's dependency. Those aren't rights, those are the
rations of slavery — hay and a barn for human cattle.


* There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you
damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the
duty to take the consequences.


* There are just two rules of governance in a free society:
Mind your own business. Keep your hands to yourself. Bill, keep your
hands to yourself. Hillary, mind your own business.


* Health care is too expensive, so the Clinton administration
is putting a high-powered corporate lawyer in charge of making it
cheaper. (This is what I always do when I want to spend less money —
hire a lawyer from Yale.) If you think health care is expensive now,
wait until you see what it costs when it's free.


* And the Clinton administration launched an attack on people
in Texas because those people were religious nuts with guns. Hell,
this country was founded by religious nuts with guns. Who does Bill
Clinton think stepped ashore on Plymouth Rock? Peace Corps
volunteers? Or maybe the people in Texas were attacked because of
child abuse. But, if child abuse was the issue, why didn't Janet
Reno tear-gas Woody Allen?


* You know, if government were a product, selling it would be
illegal.


* Government is a health hazard. Governments have killed many
more people than cigarettes or unbuckled seat belts ever have.


* Term limits aren't enough. We need jail.


-- P. J. O'Rourke.


Dave

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Aug 27, 2008, 10:50:30 AM8/27/08
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D Peter Maus wrote:
>

> * Many reporters, when they go to work in the nation’s capital,
> begin thinking of themselves as participants in the political process
> instead of glorified stenographers.
>

I don't have time for your entire screed, but reporters ARE supposed to
be part of the process. They are supposed to speak truth to power and
stick up for the common person.

D Peter Maus

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Aug 27, 2008, 11:49:06 AM8/27/08
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They're supposed to report facts, nothing more.

They are observers. Not participants.


m II

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Aug 27, 2008, 12:16:37 PM8/27/08
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D Peter Maus wrote:

(many valid points clipped)

> * The Democrats are the party that says government will make you
> smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn.
> Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work, and then
> they get elected and prove it.

> * Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and


> car keys to teenage boys.

> * Term limits aren't enough. We need jail.

I also like H.L. Mencken. (1880-1956)

===================================
I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it
is largely a waste of time.

Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American
public.

Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

To die for an idea; it is unquestionably noble. But how much nobler it
would be if men died for ideas that were true!

Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying
to prove that the other party is unfit to rule -
and both commonly succeed, and are right.

There is always a well-known solution to every human problem--neat,
plausible, and wrong.

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and
hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless
series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

It is inaccurate to say I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of
common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever
ineligible for public office.

Love is the triumph of imagination over intelligence.

As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious
day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last
and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

A church is a place in which gentlemen who have never been to heaven
brag about it to persons who will never get there.

“The government consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They
have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of
government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office.
Their principal device to that end is to search out groups who pant and
pine for something they can't get and to promise to give it to them.
Nine times out of ten that promise is worth nothing. The tenth time is
made good by looting A to satisfy B. In other words, government is a
broker in pillage, and every election is sort of an advance auction sale
of stolen goods.”

H. L. Mencken

====================================================
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Aug 27, 2008, 12:30:21 PM8/27/08
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Dave wrote:

> I don't have time for your entire screed, but reporters ARE supposed to
> be part of the process. They are supposed to speak truth to power and
> stick up for the common person.


Reporters are supposed to report. Report without fear, favouritism or
prejudice. Report without injecting editorial style commentary or
interpretation. Just report.

They aren't there to speak the truth to anyone. They are there to ASK
the truth and to ask it from as many sources as they can.

If the reporters do their part honestly and properly, the 'common
person' should handle the rest. Fear of death and retaliation sometimes
prevents that handling.

Fact belongs on the first page. Editorial comment belongs on a clearly
labelled page four.

mike

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Dave

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Aug 27, 2008, 2:05:56 PM8/27/08
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Your ignorance regarding how our government works is typical of a WLS
hate junkie.

"Whether Web logs (known as blogs) or printed books, the media in a
democracy have a number of overlapping but distinctive functions that
remain fundamentally unchanged. One is to inform and educate. To make
intelligent decisions about public policy, people need accurate, timely,
unbiased information. However, another media function may be to advocate,
even without pretense of objectivity. Media audiences may benefit from
various, conflicting opinions, in order to obtain a wide range of
viewpoints. This role is especially important during election campaigns,
when few voters will have the opportunity to see, much less talk with,
candidates in person.

A second function of the media is to serve as a watchdog over government
and other powerful institutions in the society. By holding to a standard
of independence and objectivity, however imperfectly, the news media can
expose the truth behind the claims of governments and hold public
officials accountable for their actions."

http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/democracy-in-brief/media.htm

I am disappointed but not surprised.

Dave

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Aug 27, 2008, 2:09:56 PM8/27/08
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:30:21 +0000, m II wrote:

> Dave wrote:
>
>> I don't have time for your entire screed, but reporters ARE supposed to
>> be part of the process. They are supposed to speak truth to power and
>> stick up for the common person.
>
>
> Reporters are supposed to report. Report without fear, favouritism or
> prejudice. Report without injecting editorial style commentary or
> interpretation. Just report.
>
> They aren't there to speak the truth to anyone. They are there to ASK
> the truth and to ask it from as many sources as they can.
>
> If the reporters do their part honestly and properly, the 'common
> person' should handle the rest. Fear of death and retaliation sometimes
> prevents that handling.
>
> Fact belongs on the first page. Editorial comment belongs on a clearly
> labelled page four.
>

"Facts have a liberal bias."

Deciding what goes on page 1 is a subjective process. The press is
supposed to be skeptical and is supposed to mock the absurd. This is why
Jon Stewart has more credibility than anybody else. He gets it.

D Peter Maus

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Aug 27, 2008, 2:11:02 PM8/27/08
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Dave wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:49:06 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:
>
>> Dave wrote:
>>> D Peter Maus wrote:
>>>>
>>>> * Many reporters, when they go to work in the nation’s capital,
>>>> begin thinking of themselves as participants in the political process
>>>> instead of glorified stenographers.
>>>>
>>> I don't have time for your entire screed, but reporters ARE supposed to
>>> be part of the process. They are supposed to speak truth to power and
>>> stick up for the common person.
>>
>> They're supposed to report facts, nothing more.
>>
>> They are observers. Not participants.
>
> Your ignorance regarding how our government works is typical of a WLS
> hate junkie.
>


Your ability to reduce a civil discussion into name calling is
also typical of the socialist mentality.

Have a nice day, David.

D Peter Maus

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By that logic, National Lampoon is a News Magazine.


Dave

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Aug 27, 2008, 2:22:22 PM8/27/08
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:30:21 +0000, m II wrote:

> Dave wrote:
>
>> I don't have time for your entire screed, but reporters ARE supposed to
>> be part of the process. They are supposed to speak truth to power and
>> stick up for the common person.
>
>
> Reporters are supposed to report. Report without fear, favouritism or
> prejudice. Report without injecting editorial style commentary or
> interpretation. Just report.
>
> They aren't there to speak the truth to anyone. They are there to ASK
> the truth and to ask it from as many sources as they can.
>
> If the reporters do their part honestly and properly, the 'common
> person' should handle the rest. Fear of death and retaliation sometimes
> prevents that handling.
>
> Fact belongs on the first page. Editorial comment belongs on a clearly
> labelled page four.
>
>
>
> mike

People thinking there is such a thing as unbiased news is very
dangerous. The media should not trust government completely and the
people should not trust the media completely. It is up to the end-user
to decide what is real. Anything else is Big Brother.

Dave

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Aug 27, 2008, 4:15:03 PM8/27/08
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:20:05 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

>>>
>> "Facts have a liberal bias."
>>
>> Deciding what goes on page 1 is a subjective process. The press is
>> supposed to be skeptical and is supposed to mock the absurd. This is
>> why Jon Stewart has more credibility than anybody else. He gets it.
>
>
> By that logic, National Lampoon is a News Magazine.

As valid as Time or Newsweek.

D Peter Maus

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Yes, because National Lampoon is a bastion of factual accuracy
and journalistic commitment.

Citing Jon Stewart as a source of credibility is sign of a rather
slender contact on reality.

RHF

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Aug 27, 2008, 4:44:11 PM8/27/08
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On Aug 27, 1:26 pm, D Peter Maus <DPeterM...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Dave wrote:
> > On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:20:05 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:
>
> >>> "Facts have a liberal bias."
>
> >>> Deciding what goes on page 1 is a subjective process.  The press is
> >>> supposed to be skeptical and is supposed to mock the absurd.  This is
> >>> why Jon Stewart has more credibility than anybody else.  He gets it.

- - - By that logic, National Lampoon is a News Magazine.

- - As valid as Time or Newsweek.

- Yes, because National Lampoon is a bastion of
- factual accuracy and journalistic commitment.

An often more entertaining

RHF

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Aug 27, 2008, 4:50:55 PM8/27/08
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On Aug 27, 11:05 am, Dave <j...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:49:06 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:
> > Dave wrote:
> >> D Peter Maus wrote:
>
> >>>     * Many reporters, when they go to work in the nation’s capital,
> >>> begin thinking of themselves as participants in the political process
> >>> instead of glorified stenographers.
>
> >> I don't have time for your entire screed, but reporters ARE supposed to
> >> be part of the process. They are supposed to speak truth to power and
> >> stick up for the common person.
>
> >    They're supposed to report facts, nothing more.
>
> >    They are observers. Not participants.

- Your ignorance regarding how our government works

David - Your Arrogance Speaks To Your Ignorance . . .

-is typical of a WLS hate junkie.


DaviD -calls-out-to-the- Typical WLS {Listener} Hate Junkies

> "Whether Web logs (known as blogs) or printed books, the media in a
> democracy have a number of overlapping but distinctive functions that
> remain fundamentally unchanged. One is to inform and educate. To make
> intelligent decisions about public policy, people need accurate, timely,
> unbiased information. However, another media function may be to advocate,
> even without pretense of objectivity. Media audiences may benefit from
> various, conflicting opinions, in order to obtain a wide range of
> viewpoints. This role is especially important during election campaigns,
> when few voters will have the opportunity to see, much less talk with,
> candidates in person.
>
> A second function of the media is to serve as a watchdog over government
> and other powerful institutions in the society. By holding to a standard
> of independence and objectivity, however imperfectly, the news media can
> expose the truth behind the claims of governments and hold public
> officials accountable for their actions."
>
> http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/democracy-in-brief/media.htm
>

> I am disappointed but not surprised.  - Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

D Peter Maus

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Aug 27, 2008, 4:54:53 PM8/27/08
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RHF wrote:
> On Aug 27, 11:05 am, Dave <j...@somewhere.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:49:06 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:
>>> Dave wrote:
>>>> D Peter Maus wrote:
>>>>> * Many reporters, when they go to work in the nation’s capital,
>>>>> begin thinking of themselves as participants in the political process
>>>>> instead of glorified stenographers.
>>>> I don't have time for your entire screed, but reporters ARE supposed to
>>>> be part of the process. They are supposed to speak truth to power and
>>>> stick up for the common person.
>>> They're supposed to report facts, nothing more.
>>> They are observers. Not participants.
>
> - Your ignorance regarding how our government works
>
> David - Your Arrogance Speaks To Your Ignorance . . .
>
> -is typical of a WLS hate junkie.
>
>
> DaviD -calls-out-to-the- Typical WLS {Listener} Hate Junkies
>

More interesting is that he cites Jon Stewart as a credible new
source, but dismisses Rush in the same breath.

Because as we all know, only Republicans lie.


RHF

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Aug 27, 2008, 5:37:28 PM8/27/08
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On Aug 27, 9:30 am, m II <C...@in.the.hat> wrote:
> Dave wrote:
> > I don't have time for your entire screed, but reporters ARE supposed to
> > be part of the process. They are supposed to speak truth to power and
> > stick up for the common person.
>
> Reporters are supposed to report. Report without fear, favouritism or
> prejudice. Report without injecting editorial style commentary or
> interpretation. Just report.
>
> They aren't there to speak the truth to anyone. They are there to ASK
> the truth and to ask it from as many sources as they can.
>
> If the reporters do their part honestly and properly, the 'common
> person' should handle the rest. Fear of death and retaliation sometimes
> prevents that handling.
>
> Fact belongs on the first page. Editorial comment belongs on a clearly
> labelled page four.
>
> mike
>
> --

Yellow Journalism {Sensational, Slanted and Biased} existed
before the idea of Objective {Fair and Balanced} Journalism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism

While 'winning' the "Pulitzer Prize" may be the stated goal
of Every News Orginization and Reporter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulitzer_Prize

Most Origanizations have an Agenda and Reporters have
their Biases. Reality Sucks and That Ain't News :
Just The Facts of The Business of 'The News' and
Influencing Public Opinion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_influence

Governor Ed Rendell (D-PA) identified that the PRESS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Rendell
{Major US Media} had given Barack Hussein Obama II
was Embarrassingly BIASED
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/08/25/ohio_gov_bashes_press_for_pro-.html
Basically Governor Ted Strickland (D-OH) also many
the same statements about the Slanted Press Coverage
of Barack Hussein Obama II by the Liberal Media.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Strickland

Has The Liberal Media "Anointed Obama for President ?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article4392846.ece

Democratic Convention Awaits the appearance of . . .
The Anointed One "Saint Barack of Obama" ©
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4683

Vote for "Obama the Anointed"
http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/obama_the_anointed/
- Barack Hussein Obama II "The Prophet of Change" ©

those democrats who are against 'demon' obama
have good valid reasons ~ RHF
http://www.barackobamaantichrist.blogspot.com/
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/antichrist.asp

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA II IS THE ANTI-CHRIST :
http://www.topix.com/forum/state/ok/T6LC6ESI3S0DET45G
Here Is The 'Claimed' Evidence:
http://blog.beliefnet.com/stevenwaldman/2008/08/mccain-obama-and-the-antichris.html
1.- He will come as a man of Peace (Obama promises peace in Iraq,
defeat for the US)
2.- He will come mounted on a white Female horse(Obama mother is white
who had 6 African husbands)
3.- He will come to deceive( Obama says he's a Christian but in fact
he was born a Muslim, practices the Islamic religion, prays Friday’s
facing Mecca)
4.- He will make himself the most powerful man on earth, if elected
5.- He will try to destroy the Jewish People and Israel( Obama has
said he loves the Arabs specially the Palestinians, hates Israel and
Jews. Admires Hitler, Osama etc)
6.- He will present himself as good and righteous but in fact he's
Satan himself. Violence is in his heart
7.- Obama will help Al Qaida in its evil projects.
8.- Barack Hussein Obama is the “King of the South” predicted in the
Bible.(Daniel .11, Kenya is south of Jerusalem)
9.- Obama comes to implant muslim Sharia Law upon America.
Obama is the Anti-Christ, beware of him.
Watch him and don't let you be deceived by Him.
Supporters of Obama: 1.5 billion Muslims, Oprah, Louis Farrakanh,
Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and all American Muslims.
OBAMA’S GAME IS DECEPTION AND VIOLENCE
A VOTE FOR OBAMA IS A VOTE FOR OSAMA AND KILLER ISLAM!!
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama_the_antichrist/
.
this is my little yellow ribbon for the day ~ RHF
.

Dave

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Aug 27, 2008, 5:44:21 PM8/27/08
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:44:11 -0700, RHF wrote:

>
> An often more entertaining
>
>> Citing Jon Stewart as a source of credibility is sign of a rather
>> slender contact on reality.

The National Lampoon is satire, as is Jon Stewart. Satire (look it up)
is an extremely powerful form of topical commentary. But you need two
things:

1. a sufficiently developed intellect

and

B. a sense of humor

dxAce

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Dave wrote:

Kinda leaves you out, Rickets.


Dave

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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:54:53 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

>
>
> More interesting is that he cites Jon Stewart as a credible new
> source, but dismisses Rush in the same breath.
>
> Because as we all know, only Republicans lie.

Everybody lies. Some people act like they are perfect, but then get
caught being human. This humbles a decent person. An asshole just
proceeds like it never happened.

Talk about yer arrogance...

Dave

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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:37:28 -0700, RHF wrote:

> Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and all American Muslims. OBAMA’S GAME IS
> DECEPTION AND VIOLENCE A VOTE FOR OBAMA IS A VOTE FOR OSAMA AND KILLER
> ISLAM!! http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama_the_antichrist/
> .
> this is my little yellow ribbon for the day ~ RHF
> .

Take your meds, quick.

m II

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Aug 27, 2008, 5:56:21 PM8/27/08
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D Peter Maus wrote:

> Your ability to reduce a civil discussion into name calling is also
> typical of the socialist mentality.


If that were true, Lare would be sleeping with Karl Marx and Trotsky. Is he?

dxAce

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Aug 27, 2008, 6:00:22 PM8/27/08
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m II wrote:

> D Peter Maus wrote:
>
> > Your ability to reduce a civil discussion into name calling is also
> > typical of the socialist mentality.
>
> If that were true, Lare would be sleeping with Karl Marx and Trotsky. Is he?

No. I leave that sort of thing to you Socialist/Marxists up in CanaDuh.

NoBama, no cry!


D Peter Maus

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Aug 27, 2008, 6:58:17 PM8/27/08
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Satire is not reportage of fact.

Credibility is not a function of effective satire. It's a
function of accuracy of reported fact.


D Peter Maus

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You may wish to rethink pointing fingers on that one.


RHF

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Aug 27, 2008, 7:39:28 PM8/27/08
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On Aug 27, 2:47 pm, Dave <j...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:54:53 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:
>
> >    More interesting is that he cites Jon Stewart as a credible new
> > source, but dismisses Rush in the same breath.
>
> >    Because as we all know, only Republicans lie.
>
> Everybody lies.  Some people act like they are perfect, but then get
> caught being human.  This humbles a decent person.

- An asshole just proceeds like it never happened.

DaviD - Please Proceed ! ;-) ~ RHF

- Talk about yer arrogance...

DaviD - Yes Your Actions Do Say A Lot About You . . .

Dave

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Aug 27, 2008, 7:44:32 PM8/27/08
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:45:56 -0400, dxAce wrote:
>>
>> The National Lampoon is satire, as is Jon Stewart. Satire (look it up)
>> is an extremely powerful form of topical commentary. But you need two
>> things:
>>
>> 1. a sufficiently developed intellect
>>
>> and
>>
>> B. a sense of humor
>
> Kinda leaves you out, Rickets.

Another snappy retort from the Rupert Pupkin of Lake Michigan.

Dave

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Aug 27, 2008, 7:48:53 PM8/27/08
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:58:17 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:


>>
>
> Satire is not reportage of fact.
>
> Credibility is not a function of effective satire. It's a
> function of accuracy of reported fact.

For humor to work there needs to be an underlying truth.

Dave

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Aug 27, 2008, 7:50:31 PM8/27/08
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I haven't singled anyone out; who do you think I'm referring to, and why?

dxAce

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Aug 27, 2008, 8:17:11 PM8/27/08
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Dave wrote:

Snappy beats stupid hands down.


D Peter Maus

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Aug 27, 2008, 8:36:38 PM8/27/08
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There's a difference between underlying truth in satire and
factual reportage. If you don't get that......


asswi...@138mail.com

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Aug 27, 2008, 10:27:00 PM8/27/08
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On Aug 27, 5:00 am, dxAce <dx...@NoBamaNoBiden.com> wrote:

> You're a clueless little queer, aren't you, boy?

Steve Lare you were outed as being a self loathing closet gay last
year. It is silly of you to remind everyone of your "problem" by
engaging in such pathetic name calling.

A.W.S.
President
Gay, Lesbian, Transgendered Shortwave Club

dxAce

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Aug 28, 2008, 4:56:52 AM8/28/08
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asswi...@138mail.com wrote:

> On Aug 27, 5:00 am, dxAce <dx...@NoBamaNoBiden.com> wrote:
>
> > You're a clueless little queer, aren't you, boy?
>
> Steve Lare you were outed as being a self loathing closet gay last
> year.

Really?

> It is silly of you to remind everyone of your "problem" by
> engaging in such pathetic name calling.

Pathetic? You are indeed a queer, are you not?


Dave

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Aug 28, 2008, 9:09:50 AM8/28/08
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I'm sure I get it way better than you do. I am an award winning news
producer and I used to do drive-time humorous talk radio, back in the
Golden Age of FM. The court jester could mock the king and keep his
head-old tradition.

D Peter Maus

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You DON"T get it. The issue is not whether satire is a valid form
of presentation, the issue is whether a satirist is a credible
source of news.

To get back to your original assertion, Jon Stewart is a
satirist. Not a reporter. He deals in perspective. He presents HIS
perspective. He doesn't report facts.

A clown may base his act on facts. But he is not a factual source.

m II

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Aug 28, 2008, 11:19:58 AM8/28/08
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dxAce wrote:

> Pathetic? You are indeed a queer, are you not?

Looking for more business, pervert?

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dxAce

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Aug 28, 2008, 12:06:57 PM8/28/08
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my mommie was a dumbass II wrote:

> dxAce wrote:
>
> > Pathetic? You are indeed a queer, are you not?
>
> Looking for more business, pervert?

No, but you probably are, boy.

RHF

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Aug 28, 2008, 1:08:34 PM8/28/08
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On Aug 28, 6:09 am, Dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> D Peter Maus wrote:
> > Dave wrote:
> >> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:58:17 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:
>
> >>>    Satire is not reportage of fact.
>
> >>>    Credibility is not a function of effective satire. It's a
> >>> function of accuracy of reported fact.
>
> >> For humor to work there needs to be an underlying truth.
>
> >   There's a difference between underlying truth in satire and factual
> > reportage. If you don't get that......
>
> I'm sure I get it way better than you do.  I am an award winning news
> producer and I used to do drive-time humorous talk radio, back in the
> Golden Age of FM.

- The court jester could mock the king
- and keep his head-old tradition.

Dave,

You are still the 'court-jester' of this news group in an
odd bizarre whacked-out drug-addled sort of way.

alas... if you only had a cranium ~ RHF
http://www.fussy.org/braininjar.jpg
.

Dave

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On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:53:16 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:


> You DON"T get it. The issue is not whether satire is a valid form
> of presentation, the issue is whether a satirist is a credible source of
> news.
>
> To get back to your original assertion, Jon Stewart is a
> satirist. Not a reporter. He deals in perspective. He presents HIS
> perspective. He doesn't report facts.
>
> A clown may base his act on facts. But he is not a factual source.

Communication of a concept is effected nonetheless.

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RHF

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Aug 28, 2008, 8:44:24 PM8/28/08
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On Aug 28, 1:18 pm, Radio Buff <R...@dio.buff> wrote:

- Sperm is meant for females,
- not another man's ass.

For some it 'might' be view as a Brain Enema.

bajoh...@yahoo.com

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On Aug 26, 8:21 am, cheley_bonstel...@live.com wrote:
> A guide to the things you won't hear from Your Heroes at the  RNC
>
> http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=12138

Having never served in wartime - I have very little experience or
knowledge of POWs. However, I'm thinking if you survived that kind of
ordeal - you pretty much deserve hero status.

cuh...@webtv.net

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Aug 31, 2008, 11:13:09 PM8/31/08
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Songbird McCain. www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com
www.vietnamvetsagainstjohnmccain.com

Nothing can make Songbird McCain look good, NOTHING!
cuhulin

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Aug 31, 2008, 11:36:36 PM8/31/08
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Update # 2.One Woman's Eyewitness Account of Pregnant Palin.
www.libertypost.org

Hey, it's past my bedtime.Move over doggy.
cuhulin

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Roseanne Hale, in Lima,Ohio, she and I used to email chat politics crap
when she got off of work at two thirty night times.Then she emailed me
and said I am abominable.
I love you, Rosie.
cuhulin

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