Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Islam: What the West Needs to Know

0 views
Skip to first unread message

SeeingEyeDog

unread,
Aug 30, 2006, 2:37:45 PM8/30/06
to
http://www.whatthewestneedstoknow.com/ DVD coming soon

Also read "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Understanding Islam" by Yahiya
Emerick

Read interviews and books by Islam-0-facist expert Robert Spencer, Director
of http://jihadwatch.org/
and who was recently interviewed on C-Span:
http://www.c-spanstore.org/shop/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&products_id=193778-1

http://www.rightwingnews.com/interviews/spencer.php
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19360
http://www.nationalreview.com/dreher/dreher092302.asp

Finally, read the koran. It isn't very long and you will know all about the
violence and murder inside Islam.
Unlike The Bible, everything in the koran is to be interpreted literally.

FYI: The title of Adolf Hitler's book "Mein Kampf" means "My struggle".
Islam'-0-fascists' "Jihad" has the exact same meaning both literally and
figuratively.


David

unread,
Aug 30, 2006, 2:49:47 PM8/30/06
to
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:37:45 -0500, "SeeingEyeDog" <st...@shot.org>
wrote:


>
All religion sucks.

SeeingEyeDog

unread,
Aug 31, 2006, 11:29:21 AM8/31/06
to

"David" <ric...@knac.com> wrote
> All religion sucks.

Including yours.


David

unread,
Aug 31, 2006, 11:50:35 AM8/31/06
to
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:29:21 -0500, "SeeingEyeDog" <st...@shot.org>
wrote:

>
>"David" <ric...@knac.com> wrote
>> All religion sucks.
>
>Including yours.
>

Ain't got one, sweetie.

SeeingEyeDog

unread,
Aug 31, 2006, 2:24:20 PM8/31/06
to

"David" <ric...@knac.com> wrote in message
news:i91ef2p81a33q9bk0...@4ax.com...

You have a "beleif" whether you realize it or not.


Mike

unread,
Aug 31, 2006, 4:06:46 PM8/31/06
to
"SeeingEyeDog" <st...@shot.org> wrote in message
news:12feaaf...@corp.supernews.com...

My belief is that you can't spell.

Mike

m II

unread,
Sep 1, 2006, 12:15:03 AM9/1/06
to
Mike wrote:

>> You have a "beleif" whether you realize it or not.
>
> My belief is that you can't spell.


No No No! He meant 'Be LEIF', which is the innate desire of all real men
to be a Viking.

mike Erikson II

cuh...@webtv.net

unread,
Sep 1, 2006, 1:07:24 AM9/1/06
to
zzzzzzzzzz,,,,,,,,
Cry Wolf is on Radio tv now,but I am fixin to cut the light and dream
about that very cute college gal I saw in the Wal Mart parking lot a
couple of days ago.I want to adopt her.
cuhulin

Message has been deleted

dxAce

unread,
Feb 24, 2007, 4:51:11 PM2/24/07
to

Moonlight Mile wrote:

> X-No-Archive:
>
> In article <rdnbf2pj3evqt4f1b...@4ax.com>,

> The bible explicitly instructs the good Christian to kill _anyone_ who attempts
> to convert a person from the Christian faith. Parents are told to beat their
> child if the child misbehaves; a child who talk back to the oarents is to be
> killed. It is allowable to sell a daughter into sexual slavery.
>
> David is right. All religion sucks.
>
> Anyone who believes in god or embraces any religion has, by definition, a
> serious mental disorder!

Damn! Both you AND David are obviously drug addled 'tards.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


KA6UUP

unread,
Feb 24, 2007, 9:54:49 PM2/24/07
to
>The bible explicitly instructs the good Christian to kill _anyone_ who
>attempts
>to convert a person from the Christian faith. Parents are told to beat
>their
>child if the child misbehaves; a child who talk back to the parents is
>to be
>killed. It is allowable to sell a daughter into sexual slavery.

Would you care to give a reference or is this just hearsay on your part

m II

unread,
Feb 24, 2007, 10:45:55 PM2/24/07
to
KA6UUP wrote:

http://www.evilbible.com/

mike

Brenda Ann

unread,
Feb 24, 2007, 11:04:28 PM2/24/07
to
"KA6UUP" <ka6...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:ZT6Eh.1428$8x....@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...

Every bit of it is in the Old Testament


m II

unread,
Feb 24, 2007, 11:05:47 PM2/24/07
to
Brenda Ann wrote:


I see no reference to Christians in the Old Testament..I've just gotta
get me NEWER version of that there Bible.


mike

RHF

unread,
Feb 24, 2007, 11:17:40 PM2/24/07
to
= = = On Feb 24, 1:33 pm, Moonlight Mile
= = = <MoonlightM...@somewhere.net> wrote:

Luner Luminescence Nanometer, { aka - Moonlight Mile }

1- The bible explicitly instructs the good Christian to kill any
one who attempts to convert a person from the Christian faith.

OK - May-be . . . Please provide the Chapter and Verse
for your Statement Please _____________________

2 - Parents are told to beat their child if the child misbehaves;
- a child who talk back to the parents is to be killed.

OK - May-be . . . Please provide the Chapter and Verse
for your Statement Please _____________________

3 - It is allowable to sell a daughter into sexual slavery.

OK - May-be . . . Please provide the Chapter and Verse
for your Statement Please _____________________

4 - David is right. All religion sucks.

David is Often Right with respect to Radio Related Matters.

However- DaviD's 'personal opinions' on many Worldly Topics
are often "Debatable"

5 - Anyone who believes in god or embraces any religion
- has, by definition, a serious mental disorder!

MM clearly your 'personal opinions' are "Debatable"

By-Implication Reflective Psychology tells us that when
one 'sees' Mental Disorders {Issues} in others : They are
often in-fact pointing out their own Personal Problems.
- - - Sounds Crazy -but- It Is Often True !

- MM

How To Tell -IF- Someone Is Suffering From "Candy Psychosis"
{Sugar High} - They Sign Their Messages : "MM"

- - - Love Good Wholesome Natural Food -and- Eat Healthy.
Corporate Motto of the Soylent Corp. Circa 2022


My God Is A Good God {God Is Good !}
For I Have Faith And I Believe ~ RHF
-and- Clearly "MM" Your Status Is Questionable . . .
.
.
. .

Brenda Ann

unread,
Feb 24, 2007, 11:23:12 PM2/24/07
to
"Brenda Ann" <bre...@shinbiro.com> wrote in message
news:err1mg$45b$1...@news2.kornet.net...
>Excuse me.. I spoke too soon. I don't believe the first part about killing
>anyone who tries to convert you away from Christianity is in there anywhere
>(this is not anything Christ would tell you to do), but the others, again,
>are there for all to read in the Old Testament.

Proverbs 20:30: "The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes
the inward parts of the belly."

Proverbs 13:24: "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth
him chasteneth him betimes."

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 (King James Version)
18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the
voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have
chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
19Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out
unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

20And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn
and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

21And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so
shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and
fear.

EXODUS 21:2,7 "If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and
in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. . . . And if a man sell his
daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the manservants do."


cuh...@webtv.net

unread,
Feb 24, 2007, 11:54:53 PM2/24/07
to
dxAce,at first I thought you said they are drug addled tw..s.It is a
very apt name anyway.
cuhulin

cuh...@webtv.net

unread,
Feb 24, 2007, 11:52:24 PM2/24/07
to
islam is not a religion,(I am telling y'all the Truth) islam is a cult
of death.
cuhulin

m II

unread,
Feb 25, 2007, 12:18:54 AM2/25/07
to
cuh...@webtv.net wrote:

The three Abrahamic religions all tell their proponents how evil the
other guys are. It would appear that the monotheistic cults are all the
same. The particular one that teaches it's followers to forgive and turn
the other cheek seems to attract the biggest hypocrites.


====================================
Things in the world stand today as they have for a long time already:
the most violent, threatening developments on the planet are driven by
religious beliefs drawn from the three Abrahamic creeds. The worst
hatred confronting humanity is, and always has been, “sectarian” hatred.
Why?


http://www.metahistory.org/FaithlessAndFree.php
==================================================

John Smith

unread,
Feb 25, 2007, 12:22:00 AM2/25/07
to
Brenda Ann wrote:

> ...


> Deuteronomy 21:18-21 (King James Version)
> 18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the
> voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have
> chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
> 19Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out
> unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
>
> 20And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn
> and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
>
> 21And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so
> shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and
> fear.
>

Well, if the parents ended up with a drunken bully, perhaps he needs the
chit beat out of him. Perhaps this will aid him in being able to get
along well with his neighbors. At least he should be given the chance
to have a good beating put some sense into him, before someone gets
tired of him and kills him. However, Jesus ruined all that--with that
"turn the other cheek" line :(

>
>
> EXODUS 21:2,7 "If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and
> in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. . . . And if a man sell his
> daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the manservants do."
>
>

Yep, thank God Jesus came along and changed all that. Indeed, I think
that is why our forfathers picked him to pattern our form of justice
after ...

JS

RHF

unread,
Feb 25, 2007, 4:04:56 AM2/25/07
to
M II - Once Again 'you' Post more Anti-Christian-Jewish-
Islamic Bashing Canadian Liberal "Hate Speech"

M II - Stop Promoting Your Canadian Hate - Against
Persons-of-Faith ! Especially the Majority of your
American Neighbors Who Are Jews, Christians and
Muslims [.]

M II - The way that 'you' use the Liberal Code Word "Abrahamic"
when referring to Jews, Christians and Muslims is a clear
indicator of your Open Hatred for People-of-Faith. Liberals
use this Word as a form of Hate Speech to encourage
Bigotry and Bias against the Majority of Americans Who
Are Christians. Jews and Muslims

M II - The Real Goal of Left-Wing Political Activists
like yourself is to Create a {Liberal} Secular Society
where being a Person-of-Faith is a Crime.


God {Allah} Bless America -and-
Our Canadian Neighbors - amen, Amen. and AMEN !

for i have faith and i believe - amen ~ RHF
.
.
. .

= = = On Feb 24, 9:18 pm, m II <c...@in.the.hat> wrote:
-
- The three Abrahamic religions all tell their proponents
- how evil the other guys are. It would appear that the
- monotheistic cults are all the same.
- The particular one that teaches it's followers to forgive and turn
- the other cheek seems to attract the biggest hypocrites.
-
- ====================================
- Things in the world stand today as they have for a long
- time already: the most violent, threatening developments
- on the planet are driven by religious beliefs drawn from
- the three Abrahamic creeds. The worst hatred confronting
- humanity is, and always has been, "sectarian" hatred.
- Why?
-
- http://www.metahistory.org/FaithlessAndFree.php
- ==================================================
-


Crusader

unread,
Feb 25, 2007, 2:11:09 PM2/25/07
to
And your religion is.... Maoism?
6 million murdered by Communists and still counting...

"Moonlight Mile" <Moonli...@somewhere.net> wrote in message
news:MoonlightMile-387...@news.west.earthlink.net...

> In article <rdnbf2pj3evqt4f1b...@4ax.com>,
> David <ric...@knac.com> wrote:
>

> The bible explicitly instructs the good Christian to kill _anyone_ who
attempts
> to convert a person from the Christian faith. Parents are told to beat
their

> child if the child misbehaves; a child who talk back to the oarents is to


be
> killed. It is allowable to sell a daughter into sexual slavery.
>

> David is right. All religion sucks.
>

> Anyone who believes in god or embraces any religion has, by definition, a
> serious mental disorder!
>
> MM


m II

unread,
Feb 25, 2007, 8:03:59 PM2/25/07
to


Have you considered getting help? Counseling is available for those in
your situation. A month ago you were bashing Islam, now they are your
brothers. Make up your mind.

Me? I think Islam and it's adherents have been getting screwed since the
Crusades..The Crusades of 900 years ago and the Crusades starting at the
end of the 1900 hundreds under Bush the First.

I'm not surprised the adherents get pissed off and want to stop the
invasions and the subsequent thefts and pillaging that occupation allows..


mike

m II

unread,
Feb 25, 2007, 8:17:02 PM2/25/07
to
Crusader wrote:

> And your religion is.... Maoism?
> 6 million murdered by Communists and still counting...

Your numbers are WAY off. Please check out what the followers of Marx
and Engels have wrought:


http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM

which was found here:

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/welcome.html


Note that the victims of the US wars are under reported. Half a million
Filipinos were killed around the turn of the century and a similar
number of Iraqi children died as a result of embargoes.

Madeleine Albright claimed that was alright with her.


mike

Message has been deleted

J. Smith I

unread,
Feb 25, 2007, 10:31:19 PM2/25/07
to
Moonlight Mile wrote:

> ...
> I assume you to be Christian with strong Christian beliefs. I could be wrong.
> But I wonder why so few Christians, ones that I'm acquainted with, don't trouble
> themselves to read the Holy Bible so they truly know "the word of God". You are,
> if a Christian, supposed to kill me at this point.
>
> I wonder about another issue often brought up. Christians often rant about the
> Ten Commandments not being displayed, engraved in marble, in government
> buildings. The display of the Ten Commandments in such a manner is a violation
> of the 2nd commandment. Let's not get into the fact that the Constitution of the
> U.S. forbids the establishment of any specific religion. Why can't those
> commandments be accessed from your memory at _any_ time you choose. There are
> only 10 of them, the first 4 of which have absolutely nothing to do with
> "morality".
>
> I recommend that you read "Letter To A Christian Nation" by Sam Harris. I'll
> read the bible, Old and New Testaments, if I can get a free copy. But all the
> web sites I seen are far more interested in separating me or anyone from their
> money and provide many ways to do so. One major problem, maybe the worst
> problem, is that conservative Christians try to inject Christian "values" into
> national policy.
>
> Now, back to the purpose of this NG which I think is SW. I'm not reading any
> further responses to my posts that have nothing to do with SW. It just gets to
> be too much and detracts from this NG. Mea culpa!
>
> MM

Well, I was raised Catholic. If I ever brought up the old testament and
stated it should be followed, my other church members would worry about
me, indeed, I'd imagine I'd shortly be in for a three day observation in
a mental hospital.

As to the ten commandments, I consider those to be the minimum
requirements I hold for my neighbors, if you don't hold that the ten
commandments are correct, then I DON'T want you for a neighbor.

Jesus was forgiving those who asked for forgiveness, forgiveness of a
thousand-times-a-thousand. He was for turning the other cheek and
showing men why they were wrong with argument and debate and example.

Anyone following the old testament and attempting to make others suffer
under those laws should be put to death, or, at least imprisoned where
they can do no others harm.

I think modern Christians all realize that the new testament is good for
our present society and advanced civilizations as exist today.

However, I am afraid mooselums still follow the old testament and would
enact those laws upon society. I think it is proper to put such men to
death if they cannot be removed to a place where their dangerous beliefs
cannot harm or deprive others from their pursuit of happiness ...

But, you are correct that this newsgroups focus should be on shortwave,
hopefully in a Christian atmosphere, where argument, debate,
un-revocable rights which every individual are endowed with by their
creator and personal beliefs are respected, as long as they don't
endanger or oppress others, as long as these are followed.

JS

m II

unread,
Feb 25, 2007, 10:42:28 PM2/25/07
to
J. Smith I wrote:

> However, I am afraid mooselums still follow the old testament and would
> enact those laws upon society. I think it is proper to put such men to
> death if they cannot be removed to a place where their dangerous beliefs
> cannot harm or deprive others from their pursuit of happiness ...


Jews also follow the Old Testament. Will they also be put to death or
put into a place where their dangerous beliefs cannot harm or deprive
others?

You seem to forget that Jesus didn't CHANGE the Laws of the Old Testament.


Your idiotic 'mooselums' tells me more about how you think than I care
to know. I'm sure the Catholics would appreciate you not giving them a
bad name in the future.


mike

J. Smith I

unread,
Feb 25, 2007, 11:09:37 PM2/25/07
to

Hmmm. We have jewish congressmen and senators, if they would seek to
over ride the constitution of the united states, which was founded on
the new testament (read it), then yes, the charge of treason should be
leveled upon them and a death sentence issued if warranted.

JS

RHF

unread,
Feb 26, 2007, 6:08:28 AM2/26/07
to
-

- Have you considered getting help?
- Counseling is available for those in your situation.
- A month ago you were bashing Islam,
- now they are your brothers.
- Make up your mind.
-
- Me? I think Islam and it's adherents have been
- getting screwed since the Crusades..
- The Crusades of 900 years ago and the Crusades
- starting at the end of the 1900 hundreds under
- Bush the First.
-
- I'm not surprised the adherents get pissed off and
- want to stop the invasions and the subsequent thefts
- and pillaging that occupation allows..
-
- mike-

HELP ? - Is On The Way - Thank You Jesus - Amen.

Mike - Yes I do 'bash' the Islam-O-Terrorist which is clearly
separate from the Religion of Islam.

M II - You however "BASH" All Religions that you attribute
to "Abraham" and thus promote Hate against ALL Jews,
Christians and Muslims who are God Fearing, Law Abiding
Good Citizens of Their Countries and a Credit to Their Faiths.

CRUSADES - The only recent 'crusades' that i know of
were the Adventures of Crusader Rabbit on TV.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusader_Rabbit

M II - As far as the Actual Crusades and the Real Bloody
and Brutal History behind them and the equally Real
Bloody and Brutal History that lead up to them : The good
Muslims have as mush to answer for as the evil Christians.

Take the Short Course -Read-
The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (And the Crusades)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Politically_Incorrect_Guide_to_Islam_%28And_the_Crusades%29

Muslim {Islamic} History
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_history

List of Controversies related to Islam and Muslims
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_related_to_Islam_and_Muslims

FWIW - The Moors were in Spain for 700 Years and they
did not get they by handing out Pamphlets and saying :
Allah Loves You. {Peace Be Unto You Brother}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Conquest_of_Spain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_conquest_of_Iberia

Islam's Repeated Attempted "Conquest" {By Force} of Europe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Europe
-See- Muslims in Western Europe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslims_in_Western_Europe

Demographics of Islam = Muslims by Country
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Islam

Muslim {Islamic} "Conquest" {By Force} of Egypt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_conquest_of_Egypt

Muslim {Islamic} "Conquest" {By Force} of Persia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Conquest_of_Persia

Muslim {Islamic} "Conquest" {By Force} of the Indian Subcontinent
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_conquest_of_India

Muslim {Islamic} "Conquest" {By Force} of North Africa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_conquest_of_North_Africa

Histroy Of -Muslim {Islamic} "Conquests" {By Force}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquests
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Islamic_conquests

List of Religious Wars
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religious_wars
In which Islam is listed more that any other Religion

READ SEE - ISLAM : What the West Needs to Know
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam:_What_the_West_Needs_to_Know

The Islamic Concept of "Offensive Jihad"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offensive_jihad

Jihad in the West -becomes- Jihad Against The West
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad_in_the_West
Islam's unending effort to Expand and Extend Islam
until the Whole World is UNDER Muslim Rule.

Political Aspects of Islam = Religion and Grovernment United
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_aspects_of_Islam
Islam as a Political Movement leading to a Global Caliphate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliphate

Islamism One World Under Allah = Islamization
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamization

The Muslim Brotherhood
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood
CREDO - "God is our Objective; the Quran is our Constitution;
the Prophet is our Leader; Struggle is our way, and Death for
the sake of God {Allah} is the Highest of our Aspirations."

Conversion of Non-Muslim places of Worship into Mosques
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_non-Muslim_places_of_worship_into_mosques


once again more than you wanted to know ~ RHF
.
.
. .

Message has been deleted
0 new messages