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Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh describes 'executive
assassination ring'
By Eric Black | Published Wed, Mar 11 2009 11:17 am

REUTERS/Fadi Al-Assaad
Journalist Seymour Hersh speaking in Doha at an Al Jazeera forum on
the media in 2007.

At a “Great Conversations” event at the University of Minnesota last
night, legendary investigative reporter Seymour Hersh may have made a
little more news than he intended by talking about new alleged
instances of domestic spying by the CIA, and about an ongoing covert
military operation that he called an “executive assassination ring.”

Hersh spoke with great confidence about these findings from his
current reporting, which he hasn’t written about yet.

In an email exchange afterward, Hersh said that his statements were
“an honest response to a question” from the event’s moderator, U of M
Political Scientist Larry Jacobs and “not something I wanted to dwell
about in public.”

Hersh didn’t take back the statements, which he said arise from
reporting he is doing for a book, but that it might be a year or two
before he has what he needs on the topic to be “effective...that is,
empirical, for even the most skeptical.”

The evening of great conversation, featuring Walter Mondale and Hersh,
moderated by Jacobs and titled “America’s Constitutional Crisis,”
looked to be a mostly historical review of events that have tested our
Constitution, by a journalist and a high government official who had
experience with many of the crises.

And it was mostly historical, and a great conversation, in which Hersh
and Mondale talked about the patterns by which presidents seem to get
intoxicated by executive power, frustrated by the limitations on that
power from Congress and the public, drawn into improper covert actions
that exceed their constitutional powers, in the belief that they can
get results and will never be found out. Despite a few references to
the Founding Fathers, the history was mostly recent, starting with the
Vietnam War with much of it arising from the George W. Bush
administration, which both men roundly denounced.

At the end of one answer by Hersh about how these things tend to
happen, Jacobs asked: “And do they continue to happen to this day?”

Replied Hersh:

“Yuh. After 9/11, I haven’t written about this yet, but the Central
Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities
against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any
legal authority for it. They haven’t been called on it yet. That does
happen.

"Right now, today, there was a story in the New York Times that if you
read it carefully mentioned something known as the Joint Special
Operations Command -- JSOC it’s called. It is a special wing of our
special operations community that is set up independently. They do not
report to anybody, except in the Bush-Cheney days, they reported
directly to the Cheney office. They did not report to the chairman of
the joint chiefs of staff or to Mr. [Robert] Gates, the secretary of
defense. They reported directly to him. ...

"Congress has no oversight of it. It’s an executive assassination ring
essentially, and it’s been going on and on and on. Just today in the
Times there was a story that its leaders, a three star admiral named
[William H.] McRaven, ordered a stop to it because there were so many
collateral deaths.

"Under President Bush’s authority, they’ve been going into countries,
not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding
people on a list and executing them and leaving. That’s been going on,
in the name of all of us.

"It’s complicated because the guys doing it are not murderers, and yet
they are committing what we would normally call murder. It’s a very
complicated issue. Because they are young men that went into the
Special Forces. The Delta Forces you’ve heard about. Navy Seal teams.
Highly specialized.

"In many cases, they were the best and the brightest. Really, no
exaggerations. Really fine guys that went in to do the kind of
necessary jobs that they think you need to do to protect America. And
then they find themselves torturing people.

"I’ve had people say to me -- five years ago, I had one say: ‘What do
you call it when you interrogate somebody and you leave them bleeding
and they don’t get any medical committee and two days later he dies.
Is that murder? What happens if I get before a committee?’

"But they’re not gonna get before a committee.”

Hersh, the best-known investigative reporter of his generation, writes
about these kinds of issues for The New Yorker. He has written often
about JSOC, including, last July that:

“Under the Bush Administration’s interpretation of the law,
clandestine military activities, unlike covert C.I.A. operations, do
not need to be depicted in a Finding, because the President has a
constitutional right to command combat forces in the field without
congressional interference.”

(“Finding” refers to a special document that a president must issue,
although not make public, to authorize covert CIA actions.)

Here is a tape of the full Mondale-Hersh-Jacobs colloquy, a little
over an hour, without the audience Q and A. If you want to look for
the Hersh statement quoted above, it’s about at the 7:30 mark.

The rest of the evening was, as expected, full of worry and wisdom and
quite a bit of Bush-bashing.

Jacobs walked the two elder statesmen through their experiences of:

The My Lai massacre, which Hersh first revealed publicly and which he
last night called “the end of innocence about us and war.”
The Pentagon Papers case, which Mondale called the best example of the
“government’s potential for vast public deception.”
Henry Kissinger’s secret dealings, mostly relating to the Vietnam War.
(Hersh, who has written volumes about Kissinger, said that he will
always believe that whereas ordinary people count sheep to fall
asleep, Kissinger “has to count burned and maimed Cambodian babies.”)
The Church Committee investigation of CIA and FBI abuses, in which
Mondale played a major role. (He talked about the fact that FBI
director J. Edgar Hoover not only spied on Martin Luther King but
literally tried to drive him to suicide.)
The Iran Contra scandal. (Hersh said the Reagan administration came to
office with a clear goal of finding a way to finance covert actions,
such as the funding of the Nicaraguan Contras, without appropriations
so that Congress wouldn't know about them. Mondale noted that Reagan
had signed a law barring further aid to the Contras, then participated
in a scheme to keep the aid flowing. Hersh said that two key veterans
of Iran-Contra, Dick Cheney and national security official Elliot
Abrams, were reunited in the George W. Bush White House and decided
that the key lesson from Iran-Contra was that too many people in the
administration knew about it.)
And the Bush-Cheney years. (Said Hersh: “The contempt for Congress in
the Bush-Cheney White House was extaordinary.” Said Mondale of his
successor, Cheney, and his inner circle: “they ran a government within
the government.” Hersh added: “Eight or nine neoconservatives took
over our country.” Mondale said that the precedents of abuse of vice
presidential power by Cheney would remain "like a loaded pistol that
you leave on the dining room table.")
Jacobs pressed both men on the question of whether the frequent abuses
of power show that the Constitution fails, because these things keep
happening, or whether it works, because these things keep coming to
light.

Mondale stuck with the happy answer. “The system has come through
again and again,” he said. Presidents always think they will get away
with it, but eventually reporters like Hersh bring things to light,
the public “starts smelling this stuff,” the courts and the Congress
get involved. Presidents “always, in the long run, find out that the
system is stronger than they are.”

Hersh seemed more troubled by the repetitions of the pattern. The
“beautiful thing about our system” is that eventually we get new
leaders, he said. “The evil twosome, Cheney and Bush, left,” Hersh
said. But he also said “it’s really amazing to me that we manage to
get such bad leadership, so consistently.”

And he added that both the press and the public let down their guard
in the aftermath of 9/11.

“The major newspapers joined the [Bush] team,” Hersh said. Top editors
passed the message to investigative reporters not to “pick holes” in
what Bush was doing. Violations of the Bill of Rights happened in the
plain sight of the public. It was not only tolerated, but Bush was re-
elected.

And even Mondale admitted that one of his greatest successes, laws
reforming the FBI and CIA in the aftermath of the Church Committee,
were supposed to fix the problem so that “we would never have these
problems again in the lifetime of anyone alive at the time, but of
course we did.”

~ RHF

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Did They [It] Save One American Life Good.

Did They [It] Save One Thousand American Lives Great.

Did They [It] Save One Million American Lives Wonderful.

Sounds like the US Government Defending America
and Protecting American Lives - GBTUSA ~ RHF
.
.

tianm...@gmail.com

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On Mar 12, 2:38 pm, OK-no-s...@oakie.net wrote:
> Don't ya just love it.
>
> OJ
>
> assassination ring
>
> Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh describes 'executive
> assassination ring'
> By Eric Black | Published Wed, Mar 11 2009 11:17 am
>
> REUTERS/Fadi Al-Assaad
> Journalist Seymour Hersh speaking in Doha at an Al Jazeera forum on
> the media in 2007.
>

< Islam-0-fascist propaganda snipped >

What is Al Jazeera?
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6962

Who is Seymour Hersh?

Hersh and his fraternal twin Alan were born in Chicago, Illinois on
April 8, 1937. "His parents, who emigrated to the U.S. from Lithuania
and Poland, spoke Yiddish and ran a dry-cleaning shop in a tough
section of the city's South Side," wrote Scott Sherman in the Columbia
Journalism Review (CJR). "Hersh, however, was raised in a more
genteel section near Hyde Park." Hersh described his parents to David
Rubien of Salon.com as middle-class and apolitical. Seymour and Alan
had two older sisters, also twins.

By 1955 Hersh had already experimented with marijuana, read J.D.
Salinger and watched controversial comedian Lenny Bruce at a Chicago
club. A poor student, Hersh in 1958 eked out a bachelor's degree in
History from the University of Chicago. While there he met his future
wife Elizabeth Sarah Klein, with whom he would have three children.

Trying to find his way in life, Hersh "was admitted to the University
of Chicago Law School," wrote Sherman, "but was expelled for poor
grades." He worked at Walgreens drug store for $1.50 an hour, but then
took a $35 per week job reporting on crime for Chicago's City News
Bureau. After a brief stint in the Army at Fort Riley, Kansas, he in
1961 founded a short-lived suburban Chicago newspaper.

In 1962 Hersh was hired by the wire service United Press International
(UPI), which assigned him to cover the legislature and other news from
South Dakota. A year later he left UPI to report for Associated Press
(AP), which in 1965 moved him to Washington, D.C. Befriended by
muckraking Leftist journalist I.F. Stone, Hersh soon learned to
approach middle and upper level government people directly to ferret
out information concealed by government press briefers.

In 1967 AP assigned this hard-digging young reporter to its special
investigative unit. But after a story he wrote about the Pentagon
development of chemical and biological weapons was heavily edited by
his bosses, Hersh quit AP and sold his story to the liberal magazine
The New Republic.

At the urging of Left-leaning columnist Mary McGrory, Hersh in 1968
took the job of Press Secretary for the renegade anti-Vietnam War
presidential campaign of Senator Eugene McCarthy (D.-Minnesota). After
three months Hersh quit, disillusioned with political gameplaying.

On a tip from a Village Voice columnist, freelance journalist Sy Hersh
in 1969 began tracking down the story of a purported massacre of
civilians a year earlier in the South Vietnamese village My Lai.
Hersh, with a small grant from The Fund for Investigative Journalism,
located and for hours interviewed the officer accused of what happened
at My Lai, Lt. William Calley, Jr., and others.

After Hersh's investigation was released by David Obst's small Left-
wing Dispatch News Service and got published in 36 newspapers, it
snowballed into major news and led to Hersh winning the 1970 Pulitzer
Prize for international reporting, a prestigious George Polk Award and
other honors. Hersh's book about My Lai was published in 1970 to
critical acclaim but less-than-stellar sales. He was nevertheless a
new star in the journalistic heavens.

In 1972 The New York Times hired Hersh as its investigative superstar
to compete with Bob Woodward's and Carl Bernstein's "Watergate"
reporting at the Washington Post. Starting far behind them, Hersh did
well in covering this and other hot stories, but then as now he envied
Woodward's fame, portrayal by Robert Redford in the movie "All the
President's Men," and high income.

To his credit, Hersh is a dogged, tireless researcher. Among his
negatives, Hersh is abrasive, unkempt, obsessive, and as a writer is
more a compiler of facts than a graceful stylist like rival Bob
Woodward.

The passion that drives him has often manifested as genuine hatred for
American leaders, the projection of American power, and the Central
Intelligence Agency (CIA).

Hersh's Blame-America-First choice of targets for his hatred prompted
the then-Executive Editor of the New York Times A.M. Rosenthal to
refer routinely to Hersh as "my little commie."

Among the targets of Hersh's reporting in both The Times and his books
were the overthrow of Chile's Marxist President Salvadore Allende,
according to Hersh with CIA contrivance, and what Hersh saw as the
evil of President Richard M. Nixon's National Security Advisor and
Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1872

Mike

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Mar 12, 2009, 4:09:41 PM3/12/09

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On Mar 12, 3:59�pm, "~ RHF" <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:

>
> Did They [It] Save One American Life Good.
>
> Did They [It] Save One Thousand American Lives Great.
>
> Did They [It] Save One Million American Lives Wonderful.
>
> Sounds like the US Government Defending America
> and Protecting American Lives - GBTUSA ~ RHF
> �.

No confusions of ends and means for you, right, RHF? Secret
assassination groups depriving individuals of their lives without due
process of law? So, descent into savagery is justified in fighting
terrorists?

Your ethics suck, Roy. I'm beginning to think that you may have an
actual deficiency of cognitive capability.

dxAce

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Mar 12, 2009, 4:15:16 PM3/12/09

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Michael W. Bryant, the Louisville Tech dufus who once claimed to have a PhD,
wrote:

Your ethics suck, PhDufus. You lied about having a PhD.

LMFAO at the fat dufus.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

And, as always, don't let your children attend Louisville Technical Institute.
They've hired at least one dufus who once claimed to have a PhD, and who knows,
there may be more dufi there.

tianm...@gmail.com

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Mar 12, 2009, 4:47:12 PM3/12/09

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On Mar 12, 3:09 pm, Mike <mwbry...@aol.com> wrote:
Secret
> assassination groups depriving individuals of their lives without due
> process of law? So, descent into savagery is justified in fighting
> terrorists?
>
> Your ethics suck, Roy. I'm beginning to think that you may have an
> actual deficiency of cognitive capability.

Here are your Neo-Communist Liberal Fascist ethics served on a silver
platter:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1133927/posts

Soon you to will enjoy your "ethics" under Islam.

dave

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Mar 12, 2009, 7:55:22 PM3/12/09

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~ RHF wrote:

>
> Did They [It] Save One American Life Good.
>
> Did They [It] Save One Thousand American Lives Great.
>
> Did They [It] Save One Million American Lives Wonderful.
>
> Sounds like the US Government Defending America
> and Protecting American Lives - GBTUSA ~ RHF
> .

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Mar 14, 2009, 2:14:44 AM3/14/09

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MWB - War Is Hell & We Are Fighting A War On Terror. ~ RHF

Rule # 1 - Kill The Terrorist Before They Can Kill Any Of Us [.]

Rule # 2 - Take The Fight To The Enemy
and Fight Them In Their Homeland Not Ours.

Rule # 3 - Destroy Their Ability To Fight and Wage Terror.

Note - There Aren't Many Rules. ~ RHF
.

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Mar 14, 2009, 5:14:17 PM3/14/09

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On Mar 14, 6:52 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:

- - ~ RHF wrote:
- - MWB - War Is Hell & We Are Fighting A War On Terror. ~ RHF

- "War on Terror" was a Bush era facade,
- used to justify all manner of criminal activity.
- It has officially ended.

Dave -proclaims- "War on Terror" - 'It Has Officially Ended.'
- - - when did the Obama-Regime© and the Liberal
Democrats SURRENDER the War-on-Terror ? ? ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Terrorisim

- You'll have to come up with some other
- lame excuse for behaving badly.

Dave -So in Liberal Democrat Speak :
"The 9/11 Attacks" were a 'lame excuse'.
.
NEVER FORGET - "The 9/11 Attacks"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11
The Islam-O-Fascist have only two objectives to
* Subjugate the American Infidels and/or
* Kill Any and All Americans
in the Name of Allah.
.
dave - once again you boggle the mind ~ RHF
.
.

dave

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Mar 14, 2009, 9:37:28 PM3/14/09

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Telamon wrote:

>>>
>> "It"?
>>
>> Gonna "smoke 'em out"?
>>
>> LMFAO!!!!
>
> You find the "war on terror" policy continuing with the obomination
> funny? I thought you were dead set against "it"?
>

I have to laugh to keep from crying.

Telamon

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Mar 14, 2009, 10:08:08 PM3/14/09

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In article <QN2dnb1QWtBBxiHU...@earthlink.com>,
dave <da...@dave.dave> wrote:

Sorry to hear that.

What do you think about the obomination doing a 180 on his campaign
promises? I fully expected it.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dave

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Mar 14, 2009, 11:03:44 PM3/14/09

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~ RHF wrote:

> .
> NEVER FORGET - "The 9/11 Attacks"
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11
> The Islam-O-Fascist have only two objectives to
> * Subjugate the American Infidels and/or
> * Kill Any and All Americans
> in the Name of Allah.

They will stop fucking with us when we stop fucking with them.

dave

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Mar 15, 2009, 8:57:13 AM3/15/09

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I didn't vote for him, because of his campaign promises.

I'm glad to see that some conservative Democrats are organizing to put
some brakes on the spending. I think the markets like that, too.

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Mar 15, 2009, 9:03:19 PM3/15/09

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They have said as much in just about every communication.

Paul Duca (tomservo56954@comcast.net)

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Mar 16, 2009, 11:05:32 PM3/16/09

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I enjoy listening to loud stupid Republicans scream I NEED TO BE
PROTECTED!!!

Paul

dave

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Mar 17, 2009, 9:34:51 AM3/17/09

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Pre-emption is a war crime. We don't throw the first punch. We do get
even.

~ RHF

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On Mar 12, 12:38 pm, OK-no-s...@oakie.net wrote:
> Don't ya just love it.
>
> OJ
>
> assassination ring
>

> Investigative reporterSeymourHershdescribes 'executive

> assassination ring'
> By Eric Black | Published Wed, Mar 11 2009 11:17 am
>
> REUTERS/Fadi Al-Assaad

> JournalistSeymourHershspeaking in Doha at an Al Jazeera forum on
> the media in 2007.
>
> At a “Great Conversations” event at the University of Minnesota last
> night, legendary investigative reporterSeymourHershmay have made a
> little more news than he intended by talking about new alleged
> instances of domestic spying by the CIA, and about an ongoing covert
> military operation that he called an “executive assassination ring.”
>
> Hershspoke with great confidence about these findings from his
> current reporting, which he hasn’t written about yet.
>
> In an email exchange afterward,Hershsaid that his statements were
> “an honest response to a question” from the event’s moderator, U of M
> Political Scientist Larry Jacobs and “not something I wanted to dwell
> about in public.”
>
> Hershdidn’t take back the statements, which he said arise from
> reporting he is doing for a book, but that it might be a year or two
> before he has what he needs on the topic to be “effective...that is,
> empirical, for even the most skeptical.”
>
> The evening of great conversation, featuring Walter Mondale andHersh,
> moderated by Jacobs and titled “America’s Constitutional Crisis,”
> looked to be a mostly historical review of events that have tested our
> Constitution, by a journalist and a high government official who had
> experience with many of the crises.
>
> And it was mostly historical, and a great conversation, in whichHersh
> and Mondale talked about the patterns by which presidents seem to get
> intoxicated by executive power, frustrated by the limitations on that
> power from Congress and the public, drawn into improper covert actions
> that exceed their constitutional powers, in the belief that they can
> get results and will never be found out. Despite a few references to
> the Founding Fathers, the history was mostly recent, starting with the
> Vietnam War with much of it arising from the George W. Bush
> administration, which both men roundly denounced.
>
> At the end of one answer byHershabout how these things tend to
> happen, Jacobs asked: “And do they continue to happen to this day?”
>
> RepliedHersh:
>
> “Yuh. After 9/11, I haven’t written about this yet, but the Central
> Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities
> against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any
> legal authority for it. They haven’t been called on it yet. That does
> happen.
>
> "Right now, today, there was a story in the New York Times that if you
> read it carefully mentioned something known as the Joint Special
> Operations Command -- JSOC it’s called. It is a special wing of our
> special operations community that is set up independently. They do not
> report to anybody, except in the Bush-Cheney days, they reported
> directly to the Cheney office. They did not report to the chairman of
> the joint chiefs of staff or to Mr. [Robert] Gates, the secretary of
> defense. They reported directly to him. ...
>
> "Congress has no oversight of it. It’s an executive assassination ring
> essentially, and it’s been going on and on and on. Just today in the
> Times there was a story that its leaders, a three star admiral named
> [William H.] McRaven, ordered a stop to it because there were so many
> collateral deaths.
>
> "Under President Bush’s authority, they’ve been going into countries,
> not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding
> people on a list and executing them and leaving. That’s been going on,
> in the name of all of us.
>
> "It’s complicated because the guys doing it are not murderers, and yet
> they are committing what we would normally call murder. It’s a very
> complicated issue. Because they are young men that went into the
> Special Forces. The Delta Forces you’ve heard about. Navy Seal teams.
> Highly specialized.
>
> "In many cases, they were the best and the brightest. Really, no
> exaggerations. Really fine guys that went in to do the kind of
> necessary jobs that they think you need to do to protect America. And
> then they find themselves torturing people.
>
> "I’ve had people say to me -- five years ago, I had one say: ‘What do
> you call it when you interrogate somebody and you leave them bleeding
> and they don’t get any medical committee and two days later he dies.
> Is that murder? What happens if I get before a committee?’
>
> "But they’re not gonna get before a committee.”
>
> Hersh, the best-known investigative reporter of his generation, writes
> about these kinds of issues for The New Yorker. He has written often
> about JSOC, including, last July that:
>
> “Under the Bush Administration’s interpretation of the law,
> clandestine military activities, unlike covert C.I.A. operations, do
> not need to be depicted in a Finding, because the President has a
> constitutional right to command combat forces in the field without
> congressional interference.”
>
> (“Finding” refers to a special document that a president must issue,
> although not make public, to authorize covert CIA actions.)
>
> Here is a tape of the full Mondale-Hersh-Jacobs colloquy, a little
> over an hour, without the audience Q and A. If you want to look for
> theHershstatement quoted above, it’s about at the 7:30 mark.
>
> The rest of the evening was, as expected, full of worry and wisdom and
> quite a bit of Bush-bashing.
>
> Jacobs walked the two elder statesmen through their experiences of:
>
> The My Lai massacre, whichHershfirst revealed publicly and which he
> last night called “the end of innocence about us and war.”
> The Pentagon Papers case, which Mondale called the best example of the
> “government’s potential for vast public deception.”
> Henry Kissinger’s secret dealings, mostly relating to the Vietnam War.
> (Hersh, who has written volumes about Kissinger, said that he will
> always believe that whereas ordinary people count sheep to fall
> asleep, Kissinger “has to count burned and maimed Cambodian babies.”)
> The Church Committee investigation of CIA and FBI abuses, in which
> Mondale played a major role. (He talked about the fact that FBI
> director J. Edgar Hoover not only spied on Martin Luther King but
> literally tried to drive him to suicide.)
> The Iran Contra scandal. (Hershsaid the Reagan administration came to
> office with a clear goal of finding a way to finance covert actions,
> such as the funding of the Nicaraguan Contras, without appropriations
> so that Congress wouldn't know about them. Mondale noted that Reagan
> had signed a law barring further aid to the Contras, then participated
> in a scheme to keep the aid flowing.Hershsaid that two key veterans
> of Iran-Contra, Dick Cheney and national security official Elliot
> Abrams, were reunited in the George W. Bush White House and decided
> that the key lesson from Iran-Contra was that too many people in the
> administration knew about it.)
> And the Bush-Cheney years. (SaidHersh: “The contempt for Congress in
> the Bush-Cheney White House was extaordinary.” Said Mondale of his
> successor, Cheney, and his inner circle: “they ran a government within
> the government.”Hershadded: “Eight or nine neoconservatives took
> over our country.” Mondale said that the precedents of abuse of vice
> presidential power by Cheney would remain "like a loaded pistol that
> you leave on the dining room table.")
> Jacobs pressed both men on the question of whether the frequent abuses
> of power show that the Constitution fails, because these things keep
> happening, or whether it works, because these things keep coming to
> light.
>
> Mondale stuck with the happy answer. “The system has come through
> again and again,” he said. Presidents always think they will get away
> with it, but eventually reporters likeHershbring things to light,
> the public “starts smelling this stuff,” the courts and the Congress
> get involved. Presidents “always, in the long run, find out that the
> system is stronger than they are.”
>
> Hershseemed more troubled by the repetitions of the pattern. The
> “beautiful thing about our system” is that eventually we get new
> leaders, he said. “The evil twosome, Cheney and Bush, left,”Hersh
> said. But he also said “it’s really amazing to me that we manage to
> get such bad leadership, so consistently.”
>
> And he added that both the press and the public let down their guard
> in the aftermath of 9/11.
>
> “The major newspapers joined the [Bush] team,”Hershsaid. Top editors
> passed the message to investigative reporters not to “pick holes” in
> what Bush was doing. Violations of the Bill of Rights happened in the
> plain sight of the public. It was not only tolerated, but Bush was re-
> elected.
>
> And even Mondale admitted that one of his greatest successes, laws
> reforming the FBI and CIA in the aftermath of the Church Committee,
> were supposed to fix the problem so that “we would never have these
> problems again in the lifetime of anyone alive at the time, but of
> course we did.”

The Rest of the Story that Seymour Hersh Did Not Tell

US Vice-President Joe Biden [for President Obama
and the White House] takes over former VP Cheney's
Role of Remotely Directing the US Government's
“Executive Assassination Ring”.
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