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dxAce

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Dec 11, 2010, 5:57:56 AM12/11/10
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On February 11 2011 at 8 AM local time all medium wave stations carrying KNR
(Radio Greenland) - Upernavik (810 kHz), Uummannaq (900 kHz), Qeqertarsuaq
(650 kHz), Nuuk (570 kHz) og Simiutaq (720 kHz) - will be switched off for
good, and the transmitters will be dismantled. On the same day the relays of
KNR newscasts twice daily via Tasiilaq 3815 kHz will also cease.

The decision has been taken by the Ministry of Housing, Infrastructure and
Transport in the Government of Greenland.

After February 11 2011 KNR will only be available via Low Power FM-radio in
inhabited areas of Greenland. Thus no coverage of the waste country outside
the towns and villages - and KNR will no longer be available for the
fishermen at sea nor the Inuit population in Canada.

The decision was made because the transmitters were getting old and too
costly to maintain. Besides - very few people are using the MW
transmissions.

Weather forecasts will be available for fishermen and others via VHF coastal
radio.

At a point it was considered replacing the aging MW transmitters with one or
two new SW AM-transmitters near Nuuk, but it was estimated that it would
cost 4 million DKK (535.000 euro) to establish such a new SW operation. It
was also felt that few listeners would invest in a SW receiver and the
quality would be 'doubtful' - suffering from 'atmospheric phenomena'. So
these plans were given up.


Full report (in Danish) here:
http://www.radionyt.com/artikel/default.asp?id=18070


Best 73s
Stig Hartvig Nielsen
(via Hard Core DX)
=======================================

dxAce
Michigan
USA

user

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Dec 11, 2010, 7:15:00 AM12/11/10
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dxAce wrote:

> VHF coastal
> radio.
>
> At a point it was considered replacing the aging MW transmitters with one
> or two new SW AM-transmitters near Nuuk, but it was estimated that it
> would cost 4 million DKK (535.000 euro) to establish such a new SW
> operation. It was also felt that few listeners would invest in a SW
> receiver and the quality would be 'doubtful' - suffering from 'atmospheric
> phenomena'. So these plans were given up.


But they do invest in "VHF coastal radio". .?


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dave

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Dec 11, 2010, 8:23:47 AM12/11/10
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dxAce wrote:
> On February 11 2011 at 8 AM local time all medium wave stations carrying KNR
> (Radio Greenland) - Upernavik (810 kHz), Uummannaq (900 kHz), Qeqertarsuaq
> (650 kHz), Nuuk (570 kHz) og Simiutaq (720 kHz) - will be switched off for
> good, and the transmitters will be dismantled. On the same day the relays of
> KNR newscasts twice daily via Tasiilaq 3815 kHz will also cease.
>
> The decision has been taken by the Ministry of Housing, Infrastructure and
> Transport in the Government of Greenland.
>
> After February 11 2011 KNR will only be available via Low Power FM-radio in
> inhabited areas of Greenland. Thus no coverage of the waste country outside
> the towns and villages - and KNR will no longer be available for the
> fishermen at sea nor the Inuit population in Canada.
>
> The decision was made because the transmitters were getting old and too
> costly to maintain. Besides - very few people are using the MW
> transmissions.
>
> Weather forecasts will be available for fishermen and others via VHF coastal
> radio.
>
> At a point it was considered replacing the aging MW transmitters with one or
> two new SW AM-transmitters near Nuuk, but it was estimated that it would
> cost 4 million DKK (535.000 euro) to establish such a new SW operation. It
> was also felt that few listeners would invest in a SW receiver and the
> quality would be 'doubtful' - suffering from 'atmospheric phenomena'. So
> these plans were given up.
>
Reality rears its ugly head. AM radio doesn't work very well near the
poles anyway. I'm sure they have access to satellite.

dave

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Dec 11, 2010, 8:26:28 AM12/11/10
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user wrote:
> dxAce wrote:
>
>> VHF coastal
>> radio.
>>
>> At a point it was considered replacing the aging MW transmitters with one
>> or two new SW AM-transmitters near Nuuk, but it was estimated that it
>> would cost 4 million DKK (535.000 euro) to establish such a new SW
>> operation. It was also felt that few listeners would invest in a SW
>> receiver and the quality would be 'doubtful' - suffering from 'atmospheric
>> phenomena'. So these plans were given up.
>
>
> But they do invest in "VHF coastal radio". .?
>
>

Ships are required to maintain VHF watch 24/7, as are coastal rescue
stations. No such requirement regarding the whale blubber futures forecasts.

Clive

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Dec 11, 2010, 11:08:00 AM12/11/10
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Just another example of buffoon politicians making the wrong decisions. I am
sure the Danish government is
as scummy as the rest of them and will not touch their private golf courses
and leaders' private retreats. Meanwhile the "regular folk" will go without
something like basic radio and the transmitters must be shut down and
dismantled. What a crock of shit. Is THAT what they tell the people of
Greenland? Do the thinking people of Greenland really BUY that?

No, the truth is that, like too many places the politicians are running over
the people. They'd rather divert the money from serving to people to serving
themselves. The leaders like their perks.

What assholes.

But then again it is little different than what has happened here. They've
turned local radio into a joke where you no longer can get timely weather
information or find out why the main street is blocked with fire trucks. The
automated recording of an announcer keeps telling me I am listening to "home
town radio" but it is nothing more than satellite automation of the same 50
mundane musical selections cycled over and over. I listened to 40 minutes of
dead air on a 5 KW major market station six months ago. They're not even
listening AT THE STATION!

Meanwhile, in this remote area that we live our leaders forced that damned
digital TV down our throats (which has caused many other countries to point
to the US and laugh). Where we once received 6 TV channels, we now can get 1
and very occasionally 2 if we don't mind all the pixels and frozen audio.
Thank you, digital boneheads. We get shit for TV reception on one damned
channel now but, I guess, we get it in "high def." What stupidity.

So it looks like the Greenlanders are victims to the same oafish morons
running their country as ours.

RHF

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Dec 11, 2010, 11:21:12 AM12/11/10
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Kalaallit Nunaata Radio
(The Greenlandic Broadcasting Corporation)
http://knr.gl/index.php?id=13

Greenland has less that 100 Human 'Settlements' and
with 100 Watt FM Transmitters they can cover each of
them {all}; except for about 10 larger 'Settlements' which
would require 1~5 KW FM Transmitters t for full coverage
of their larger areas.

For Greenland and may Countries FM Radio is the answer
to their Over-the-Air 'Local' Broadcast Radio Future.

One simple fact is that FM Radio Transmitter Towers
for Small 'Local' Area Coverage are smaller and lower;
cheaper and easier to build; lower maintenance; and
weather better than Taller and Larger AM/MW Radio
Transmitter Towers.

For World Wide News and Information {Global Contact}
a single Satellite {Dish} Internet Land Station that is
Co-Located at the FM Radio Transmitter Towers with
'Local' WiFi a/o Cable would bring "The World" to most
of the Homes in a 'Settlement'.
-also- Co-Locate the Cellphone Transmitters on the
same FM Radio Transmitter Towers.

Finally for Marketing "Greenland" to the World an Internet
24/7 WebSite would reach more people around the World
more consistently and at a lower cost than Shortwave Radio.

While this News is not good for World Wide AM/MW
DXers and Shortwave Radio Listeners : It is a good
practical solution for the Radio Listeners of Greenland.

~ RHF
.
.

Steve

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Dec 11, 2010, 8:41:03 PM12/11/10
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> (The Greenlandic Broadcasting Corporation)http://knr.gl/index.php?id=13

The future of shortwave DXing points away from commercial broadcast
stations and has for a long time now. I don't find this depressing, as
I always preferred to DX other kinds of signals, but I know it is
depressing for some.

dxAce

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Dec 12, 2010, 6:00:36 AM12/12/10
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Steve wrote:

Some additional comments from Bruce Churchill in California:

Greenland closes SW and MW on Feb 11 2011.
Alas, indeed they are! Even the relatively recent low-power missionary
stations that brought back for a fleeting moment rare DX that HCJB and
others have supported, never really made it.witness The Cross Radio in
Pohnpei (gone), Wantok Radio Light (still on but with much reduced power
these days), Radio Peace (supposedly expanding, but not on the air these
days), Dunamis Shortwave in Uganda (rarely, if ever heard, with
transmitter problems), ELWA (gone again), Radio Veritas Liberia (gone),
CRN in PNG (gone), and on and on the list goes. The only one still
reliably operating is Radio Kahuzi in DR Congo. The story is the same in
most cases - unreliable equipment and a lack of trained staff to support
the station technical operations.
(Bruce Churchill-CA-USA, DXplorer Dec 10, Top News)
==============

I was lucky enough to hear and QSL The Cross Radio in
Pohnpei, Micronesia on 4755 in 2007.

Unfortunately a short lived operation, and most expected them to fix their antenna
problem, but they have yet to return.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

dave

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Dec 12, 2010, 7:35:22 AM12/12/10
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I'll trade HFBC for 15,000 web streams. Time marches on. At least now
you can participate in ham radio even if you don't have a license.

pskreporter.info

How does your receiver work compared to others? Have a receiver shootout
with other SWLs and Hams from your grid square. No license needed! Make
up your own SWL "call sign".

dave

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Dec 12, 2010, 7:49:57 AM12/12/10
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Right away, when you open a speech with "alas" I got to figure you are
really, really, old.

dxAce

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Dec 12, 2010, 7:55:21 AM12/12/10
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dave wrote:

Right away, when I open any of your posts, I figure on reading something by a drug addled
'tard boy.


m II

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Dec 13, 2010, 2:28:10 AM12/13/10
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On 10-12-12 05:49 AM, dave wrote:

> Right away, when you open a speech with "alas" I got to figure you are
> really, really, old.


That's the way they talk at those weekly 'respect' sessions he attends.
His favourite colour is puce. Cylindrical puce.

mike

RHF

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Dec 13, 2010, 5:19:51 AM12/13/10
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- Right away,
- when you open a speech with "alas"
- I got to figure you are really, really, old.

Alas 'Special Dave' You Are Really Really A-L-A-S . . .

to 'alas' and beyond ~ RHF
.
.

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