SPECIAL: Arctic Ice Melt Speeding Up
Dave
"Last year was an unusual year when wind currents and other weather
conditions coincided with global warming to worsen sea ice melt, Serreze
said. Scientists wondered if last year was an unusual event or the start
of a new and disturbing trend.
This year's results suggest the latter because the ice had recovered a
bit more than usual thanks to a somewhat cooler winter, Serreze said.
Then this month, when the melting rate usually slows, it sped up
instead, he said."
-AP
cheley_b...@live.com
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/27/arctic-sea-ice-drops-to-2_n_...
>
> "Last year was an unusual year when wind currents and other weather
> conditions coincided with global warming to worsen sea ice melt, Serreze
> said. Scientists wondered if last year was an unusual event or the start
> of a new and disturbing trend.
>
> This year's results suggest the latter because the ice had recovered a
> bit more than usual thanks to a somewhat cooler winter, Serreze said.
> Then this month, when the melting rate usually slows, it sped up
> instead, he said."
> -AP
- So how does that affect me?
Does it affect the RNC up in The Twin Cities?
I don't live anywhere around the Artic..
cuh...@webtv.net
somewhere on Earth.
cuhulin
Dave
>
> - So how does that affect me?
>
> Does it affect the RNC up in The Twin Cities?
>
> I don't live anywhere around the Artic..
It affects everyone. The thermohaline circulator requires a precise mix
of cold/warm/salt/fresh water in the oceans near Greenland. If the
circulator changes famines ensue.
dxAce
Dave wrote:
More k00k fodder.
cheley_b...@live.com
Thermohaline Circulator ?
Whazzat ?
- So I go down to the Piggly Wiggly and buy Groceries..
Wheres the famine ?
FUCK the Polar Bears..
cuh...@webtv.net
Piggly Wiggly pioneered a lot of things we take for granted at the food
stores.
cuhulin
cheley_b...@live.com
70 Hour week,
low wages
No Health Benefits
Cowboy
> More k00k fodder.
Coming over tonight, stud?
Cowboy
dxAce
Cowboy wrote:
Let me guess... you live on Brokeback Mountain?
Dave
dxAce
Dave wrote:
More k00k fodder.
NoBama, no cry!
Dave
RHF
- It affects everyone.
- The thermohaline circulator requires a precise mix of
- cold/warm/salt/fresh water in the oceans near Greenland.
- If the circulator changes famines ensue.
Dave many of us await a 'famine' of your postings.
(OT) : Weather Radar Confirms . . .
Arctic Ice Melt Speeding Up - - - Vroom !
http://www.freewebs.com/airawareness/Argentina.ice_break.jpg
http://tumyeto.com/images/uploaded/vroom_opt.gif
-ps- If you really really believe in 'global warming'
why are you still exhaling ?
-pps- save the planet one breath at a time.
ka6uup
Huffington here in California
Dave
> There is a good reason Arianna Huffington is known as "airhead"
> Huffington here in California
>
I've never heard her called that. What's your super-clever name for
Steve Forbes? 'cause he published the same story:
RHF
> On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:57:41 -0700, ka6uup wrote:
- - is known as "airhead" Huffington here in California
Aria Huff-an-Puff-a-Ton
http://bp2.blogger.com/_MyrnRTwTUFk/SAWKViFh7DI/AAAAAAAAHZw/ouARv56i6Zs/s400/Arianna%
> I've never heard her called that.
- What's your super-clever name for Steve Forbes?
- 'cause he published the same story:
-
- http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/08/27/ap5364742.html
Stevy Ford Burps - The 'real' Smoking Man {Shadow}
http://www.df.lth.se/~ola/pictures/smoking.jpg
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D Peter Maus
Interesting propaganda. Like Noah Wylie whining about the
impending doom of the polar bears. 95% of which have migrated south
into the populated areas of Canada, btw. Why? Because they were all
fans of the late Sam Kinison who said, "there'd be no starvation if
everybody'd just MOVE TO WHERE THE FOOD IS!"
Notice that this polar sea ice story is about this year...the
SECOND lowest level of sea ice since records began in 1979.
No one mentioned last year that it was the LOWEST level of sea
ice since 1979.
Which suggests what even the so-called 'experts' have been
admitting now for three years is true: that the warming has stopped
and cooling has begun.
Even the global warming zealots have admitted, in the face of
their own data, there has been no warming since 1998.
And Al "I'm going to rule the goddamned country if I have to
manufacture a panic to do it" Gore has even admitted that the
warming has subsided. Now claiming that in 10 years there will be
explosive warmth, and we'll all be doomed.
For this religion, the worship never ends. Even when the mythos
has been exposed.
NOAA has said that the warmest year on record was not 1996 as had
been stated by the global warming movement, but rather 1934. When
the only SUV on the road would be the Chevy Suburban, a year away. A
point that Al "I'm not going to argue this issue, so don't EVEN
think of putting me at a table with anybody other than a sympathetic
interviewer" Gore refuses to explain.
Ice core samples from both poles as well as core samples from
every continent have been pointing to the fact that the warmest
period in Earth history was 700 years ago, when all the Hummer
dealers were closed.
Global climate, as everything on this planet, is in constant
flux. It's cyclic in nature, shows some parallels to sunspot cycles
(just like the hole in the ozone) and long trends over time show the
climate to be cooling.
Arianna "I only take private jets, but it's no big deal because
they're going that way anyway" Huffington is an airhead.
Steve Forbes is a useful idiot who's very good in business.
Dave
>
> Notice that this polar sea ice story is about this year...the SECOND
> lowest level of sea ice since records began in 1979.
>
> No one mentioned last year that it was the LOWEST level of sea ice
> since 1979.
>
> NOAA has said that the warmest year on record was not 1996 as had been
> stated by the global warming movement, but rather 1934. When the only
> SUV on the road would be the Chevy Suburban, a year away. A point that
> Al "I'm not going to argue this issue, so don't EVEN think of putting me
> at a table with anybody other than a sympathetic interviewer" Gore
> refuses to explain.
You didn't read the story very carefully. It clearly states that the
ice is still melting and this may still end up as the year with the
least ice. When GM started making their Suburban-esque vehical it was
called the Carry All. I used to drive one. When gas was 75 cents a gallon.
There are variations due to solar cycles, wars, volcanoes, but the
moving average is going up; regardless of your denials. Anybody can
excise a little piece of a trend to attempt to prove a point, and the
gullible will gladly play along.
D Peter Maus
> D Peter Maus wrote:
>>
>> Notice that this polar sea ice story is about this year...the SECOND
>> lowest level of sea ice since records began in 1979.
>>
>> No one mentioned last year that it was the LOWEST level of sea ice
>> since 1979.
>>
>
>> NOAA has said that the warmest year on record was not 1996 as had
>> been stated by the global warming movement, but rather 1934. When the
>> only SUV on the road would be the Chevy Suburban, a year away. A point
>> that Al "I'm not going to argue this issue, so don't EVEN think of
>> putting me at a table with anybody other than a sympathetic
>> interviewer" Gore refuses to explain.
>
> You didn't read the story very carefully.
Actually, yes, I did.
> When GM started making their Suburban-esque vehical it was
> called the Carry All.
The Suburban was introduced in 1935 as the Suburban CarryAll. You
may want to brush up.
> There are variations due to solar cycles, wars, volcanoes, but the
> moving average is going up; regardless of your denials. Anybody can
> excise a little piece of a trend to attempt to prove a point, and the
> gullible will gladly play along.
A little piece of a trend: from the 11th century to present. Yes,
I see your point.
Telamon
Dave <da...@dave.dave> wrote:
If you believe this global warming crap you have a lot to learn. The
time spans for climate change span many thousands of years and have
occurred throughout history cold to hot and hot to cold. These changes
have had nothing to do with man actions. Based on the record through
hundreds of thousands of years climate history we are at the end of a
warming trend and headed for the next ice age. It will be decades before
we know for sure about the current trend. This trend however it turn out
will not even be modified by what man does as the forces of nature that
control these trends dwarf anything mankind does.
Global warming is about control by the ruling elite exemplified by Al
Gore nothing more.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
cuh...@webtv.net
which year, but it dates back to the 1970s.About three months ago I
asked him if he wants to sale it.He said, Nope.
cuhulin
Dave
> If you believe this global warming crap you have a lot to learn. The
> time spans for climate change span many thousands of years and have
> occurred throughout history cold to hot and hot to cold. These changes
> have had nothing to do with man actions.
> Global warming is about control by the ruling elite exemplified by Al
> Gore nothing more.
>
"Ruling elite"? You sound like a Sandinista.
Telamon
Dave <da...@dave.dave> wrote:
Yes. A good example would be John Kerry who never misses an opportunity
to intimidate people he comes across or Al Gore that uses enough oil
resources to power a small town. These guys are just two of many that
think they are better looking, smarter, and deserving of running
roughshod over everyone else's life. Oh yeah, and they can cry
crocodile tears before the camera at the drop of a hat but still be
considered more manly than you because they comprise the elite.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
RHF
> Telamon wrote:
> > If you believe this global warming crap you have a lot to learn. The
> > time spans for climate change span many thousands of years and have
> > occurred throughout history cold to hot and hot to cold. These changes
> > have had nothing to do with man actions.
> > Global warming is about control by the ruling elite exemplified by Al
> > Gore nothing more.
- "Ruling elite"? You sound like a Sandinista.
The Oligarchy of the Masses
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_oligarchy
Dave
>> >
>> "Ruling elite"? You sound like a Sandinista.
>
> Yes. A good example would be John Kerry who never misses an opportunity
> to intimidate people he comes across or Al Gore that uses enough oil
> resources to power a small town. These guys are just two of many that
> think they are better looking, smarter, and deserving of running
> roughshod over everyone else's life. Oh yeah, and they can cry crocodile
> tears before the camera at the drop of a hat but still be considered
> more manly than you because they comprise the elite.
And why do you single out highly visible democrats for such criticism?
Are you saying the Bushes of Kennebunkport are less elitist than the
Kerrys and the Kennedys of Martha's Vineyard?
Everybody says JFK was a hero because he cut taxes on thw wealthy, so
let's go back to those glory days of 63% on the top incomes. Or just
close all the loopholes.
m II
> - "Ruling elite"? You sound like a Sandinista.
>
> The Oligarchy of the Masses
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_oligarchy
This makes sense:
==============================
Leaders that are unchecked tend to develop large salaries and a more
affluent lifestyle that makes them unwilling to go back to their
previous jobs. With a powerful out faction ready to expose profligacy,
no leaders dared create sumptuous personal remuneration.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_oligarchy
==============================
mike
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Drifter
> RHF wrote:
>
>> - "Ruling elite"? You sound like a Sandinista.
>>
>> The Oligarchy of the Masses
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_oligarchy
>
>
> This makes sense:
>
> ==============================
> Leaders that are unchecked tend to develop large salaries and a more
> affluent lifestyle that makes them unwilling to go back to their
> previous jobs. With a powerful out faction ready to expose profligacy,
> no leaders dared create sumptuous personal remuneration.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_oligarchy
> ==============================
>
> mike
>
>
opinion, it's not in stone. anyone can write to wiki or change
anything on there. that's what i tried to tell that url freak
before i put him in the bit-bucket. now i see he is coming
back with a few sockers. more room in the bucket for his
ravings.
Drifter...
cuh...@webtv.net
falsehoods too.
cuhulin
m II
You are just the man to CORRECT all those falsehoods. Show the idiots
what the FACTS are, ok? Come on, do Humanity a favour, start editing all
the offending pages.
mike
--
cuh...@webtv.net
channel.I don't have time to do any editing now.I am going back to work
in my trashy back yard right now.Do your own editing.
cuhulin
Telamon
Dave <j...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 01:05:12 -0700, Telamon wrote:
>
> >> >
> >> "Ruling elite"? You sound like a Sandinista.
> >
> > Yes. A good example would be John Kerry who never misses an opportunity
> > to intimidate people he comes across or Al Gore that uses enough oil
> > resources to power a small town. These guys are just two of many that
> > think they are better looking, smarter, and deserving of running
> > roughshod over everyone else's life. Oh yeah, and they can cry crocodile
> > tears before the camera at the drop of a hat but still be considered
> > more manly than you because they comprise the elite.
>
> And why do you single out highly visible democrats for such criticism?
> Are you saying the Bushes of Kennebunkport are less elitist than the
> Kerrys and the Kennedys of Martha's Vineyard?
< SNIP >
Because they are the most obvious.
If you met him Kerry would down his nose at you.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Dave
>
> < SNIP >
>
> Because they are the most obvious.
>
> If you met him Kerry would [look] down his nose at you.
That would be his loss, not mine.
BTW, he can't help but look down his nose at everybody; he's very tall
and has a huge nose.
Telamon
Dave <j...@somewhere.com> wrote:
The a reason for everything.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
RHF
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 01:05:12 -0700, Telamon wrote:
>
> >> "Ruling elite"? You sound like a Sandinista.
>
> > Yes. A good example would be John Kerry who never misses an opportunity
> > to intimidate people he comes across or Al Gore that uses enough oil
> > resources to power a small town. These guys are just two of many that
> > think they are better looking, smarter, and deserving of running
> > roughshod over everyone else's life. Oh yeah, and they can cry crocodile
> > tears before the camera at the drop of a hat but still be considered
> > more manly than you because they comprise the elite.
>
> And why do you single out highly visible democrats for such criticism?
> Are you saying the Bushes of Kennebunkport are less elitist than the
> Kerrys and the Kennedys of Martha's Vineyard?
- Everybody says JFK was a hero because he cut taxes
- on thw wealthy, so let's go back to those glory days of
- 63% on the top incomes. Or just close all the loopholes.
CHANGE THE WAY TAXES ARE COLLECTED :
[Make Imported Goods Pay Their Fair Share of the US Budget.]
Flat National Sales Tax (X%) for Every Family of Four (4)
with a combined Income of less-than $180K* per Year.
Result - 80% of AMERICANS PAY AS THEY SPEND
and have No Income Taxes and No Deductions.
Tier # 1 Gross Earnings Tax (X%) of for Every Family
of Four (4) with a combined Income of More-Than $180K*
and less-than $1.8M per Year.
Result - 15% of of High Income Americans Pay a Flat
Gross Earnings Tax that is Equal to the National Sales
Tax with No Deductions.
Tier # 2 Gross Earning Tax (2X%) of for Every Family
of Four (4) with a combined Income of More-Than
$1.8MK* per Year.
Result - The Top 5% of of Richist Earnings Americans
Pay a Flat Earnings Tax that is Twice to the National
Sales Tax with No Deductions.
EARINGS : Income, Interest, Dividends, Capital Gains,
Employee Benefits and Options; Rents, Royalties, etc.
* Three Times the National Average Wage using a Three
Year Running Average.
Household Income in the United States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States
Income in the United States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_in_the_United_States
Average Income in the United States (1913-2006)
http://www.visualizingeconomics.com/2008/05/04/average-income-in-the-united-states-1913-2006/
.
RHF
> On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:33:55 -0700, Telamon wrote:
>
> > < SNIP >
- - Because they are the most obvious.
- - If you met him Kerry would [look] down his nose at you.
- That would be his loss, not mine.
- BTW, he can't help but look down his nose at
- everybody; he's very tall and has a huge nose.
John 'ff' Kerry's self-imagined Mental Stature has nothing
to do with his Physical Size of the Shape of his Nose.
.