a couple of weeks ago I listed on eBay a broken FRG-7700 receiver. the buyer was gottahaveit1995. it was paid for and shipped to Martyn Allison. today, Radio-mart has listed that identical FRG-7700, including the CD I made and included. he made up a story that was not true that he had sold this receiver in working condition and it was returned broken. Radio-mart also happens to be Martyn Allison. and this is not the first time he bought something from me under gottahaveit1995 and sold it two weeks later as radio-mart the auctions in question are: 5837723543 and 5833316809 judge for yourself how honest this person is and if you can ever believe anything he says in his auctions.
I should have added that he did not mention that the analog dial light is burnt out and there are some bruises to the case that preclude it from being called excellent as he has done.
I have the serial number of the one I sold if anyone wants to compare what he says it is to what I sold if they want further proof.
"mike maghakian" <maghak...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>a couple of weeks ago I listed on eBay a broken FRG-7700 receiver. the >buyer was gottahaveit1995. it was paid for and shipped to Martyn Allison. > today, Radio-mart has listed that identical FRG-7700, including the CD I > made and included. he made up a story that was not true that he had sold > this receiver in working condition and it was returned broken. > Radio-mart also happens to be Martyn Allison. and this is not the first > time he bought something from me under gottahaveit1995 and sold it two > weeks later as radio-mart > the auctions in question are: 5837723543 and 5833316809 > judge for yourself how honest this person is and if you can ever believe > anything he says in his auctions.
On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 23:43:58 -0800, "mike maghakian"
<maghak...@comcast.net> wrote: >I should have added that he did not mention that the analog dial light is >burnt out and there are some bruises to the case that preclude it from being >called excellent as he has done.
>I have the serial number of the one I sold if anyone wants to compare what >he says it is to what I sold if they want further proof.
Radio-Mart is a well known and proven con artist but thanks for the heads up.
I think most people are wise to the Radio-mart scam, but it's good to post reminders for new people. I have "gottahaveit1995" on my blocked bidders list, and Radio-mart is excluded from my saved searches.
By the way, that's one of his two most common stories. The other one is about taking a radio in "as part of a parts trade", when in reality he just bought it off eBay.
"mike maghakian" <maghak...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>a couple of weeks ago I listed on eBay a broken FRG-7700 receiver. the >buyer was gottahaveit1995. it was paid for and shipped to Martyn Allison. > today, Radio-mart has listed that identical FRG-7700, including the CD I > made and included. he made up a story that was not true that he had sold > this receiver in working condition and it was returned broken. > Radio-mart also happens to be Martyn Allison. and this is not the first > time he bought something from me under gottahaveit1995 and sold it two > weeks later as radio-mart > the auctions in question are: 5837723543 and 5833316809 > judge for yourself how honest this person is and if you can ever believe > anything he says in his auctions.
> From: "mike maghakian" <maghak...@comcast.net> > Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave > Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 23:38:11 -0800 > Subject: the truth about Radio-mart on eBay, judge for yourself
> a couple of weeks ago I listed on eBay a broken FRG-7700 receiver. the buyer > was gottahaveit1995. it was paid for and shipped to Martyn Allison. > today, Radio-mart has listed that identical FRG-7700, including the CD I > made and included. he made up a story that was not true that he had sold > this receiver in working condition and it was returned broken. > Radio-mart also happens to be Martyn Allison. and this is not the first time > he bought something from me under gottahaveit1995 and sold it two weeks > later as radio-mart > the auctions in question are: 5837723543 and 5833316809 > judge for yourself how honest this person is and if you can ever believe > anything he says in his auctions.
You should contact ebay with this info, if you haven't already.
> a couple of weeks ago I listed on eBay a broken FRG-7700 receiver. the buyer > was gottahaveit1995. it was paid for and shipped to Martyn Allison. > today, Radio-mart has listed that identical FRG-7700, including the CD I > made and included. he made up a story that was not true that he had sold > this receiver in working condition and it was returned broken. > Radio-mart also happens to be Martyn Allison. and this is not the first time > he bought something from me under gottahaveit1995 and sold it two weeks > later as radio-mart > the auctions in question are: 5837723543 and 5833316809 > judge for yourself how honest this person is and if you can ever believe > anything he says in his auctions.
Yeah, I was bidding on a radio 2 weeks ago, and he tried to sneak in at the last second and win it, but was denied by someone who really really wanted that radio.
I refuse to deal with radiomart because of the private bidders, but appreciate the documentation that he is a crook. I assume the private bidders are to use shills. Ebay is really oriented in favor of the seller, not the buyer, else ebay wouldn't allow such scams. [The reserve auction is a prime example of ebay favoring the seller.]
I wonder if ebay "university" tells jerks to buy stuff on ebay from an honest seller that indicates the warts, then sell it with an ad worthy of a real estate agent lie, a better photograph, and pretend to be a store instead of an individual since a store must know what they are doing.
mike maghakian wrote: > a couple of weeks ago I listed on eBay a broken FRG-7700 receiver. the buyer > was gottahaveit1995. it was paid for and shipped to Martyn Allison. > today, Radio-mart has listed that identical FRG-7700, including the CD I > made and included. he made up a story that was not true that he had sold > this receiver in working condition and it was returned broken. > Radio-mart also happens to be Martyn Allison. and this is not the first time > he bought something from me under gottahaveit1995 and sold it two weeks > later as radio-mart > the auctions in question are: 5837723543 and 5833316809 > judge for yourself how honest this person is and if you can ever believe > anything he says in his auctions.
leanstothel...@democrat.com wrote: > I refuse to deal with radiomart because of the private bidders, but > appreciate the documentation that he is a crook. I assume the private > bidders are to use shills.
Noooooo... it's so that those who are wise to him can't alert the bidders.
>> I refuse to deal with radiomart because of the private bidders, but >> appreciate the documentation that he is a crook. I assume the private >> bidders are to use shills.
> Noooooo... it's so that those who are wise to him can't alert the bidders.
> dxAce > Michigan > USA
I imagine it's for both reasons. If you can't see whos bidding, you can't tell if your being shilled or not. He did get kicked off for that reason, if you remember.
Michael Lawson wrote: > "mike maghakian" <maghak...@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:OLmdnSmTqeH7cw7e4p2dnA@comcast.com... >> a couple of weeks ago I listed on eBay a broken FRG-7700 receiver. > the buyer >> was gottahaveit1995. it was paid for and shipped to Martyn Allison. >> today, Radio-mart has listed that identical FRG-7700, including the > CD I >> made and included. he made up a story that was not true that he had > sold >> this receiver in working condition and it was returned broken. >> Radio-mart also happens to be Martyn Allison. and this is not the > first time >> he bought something from me under gottahaveit1995 and sold it two > weeks >> later as radio-mart >> the auctions in question are: 5837723543 and 5833316809 >> judge for yourself how honest this person is and if you can ever > believe >> anything he says in his auctions.
> Yeah, I was bidding on a radio 2 weeks ago, and he tried > to sneak in at the last second and win it, but was denied > by someone who really really wanted that radio.
> --Mike L.
Both he and Radios4You regularly read this forum and adapt their practices by what they read here, resulting in things like the hidden bidders and feedback. On at least two instances after technical discussions in which I participated, I was contacted by one of them with a request to take on a project for one of their newly acquired radios. I declined both times. I'm sure I wasn't the only one contacted.
One of the things that happens when you post something to a public forum such as this, is it attracts attention from those you'd rather not have looking over your shoulder. Radio-Mart and Radios4You being only two. And when someone, as happens here, telegraphs a distaste for a vendor and suggests, as has happened here, an intent to interfere in a transaction by contacting bidders directly, such comments provoke a response.
Commenting on absurd prices, or questionable products is one thing. Not unlike telling your friends that a different vendor has better pricing, higher quality, or more diversified offerings. We do that every day in recommending Universal, HRO, Grove or any of the other vendors with whom we deal. Stating an intent to follow someone into a store and tell him/her about bad experiences, questionable ethics, or misrepresented products is quite another matter. And the vendor, no matter how shady, shifty and malintended he/she may be has the right and the power to close doors to such direct accusations, especially in their own store. eBay's analog to that is the hidden bidder/private auction.
If someone would really wish to do something effective in having an impact on these guy's business practices, stop telling the world what you're going to do. Once the intent has been stated, preemptive defense is the next step.
If neither of these guys openly state, "I'm going to buy questionable goods, put them up for sale at inflated prices and sell them as New In Box," then don't openly state what you're going to do to impact such questionable practices.
You don't win a chess game by laying out your moves in advance.
> I should have added that he did not mention that the analog dial light is > burnt out and there are some bruises to the case that preclude it from being > called excellent as he has done.
> I have the serial number of the one I sold if anyone wants to compare what > he says it is to what I sold if they want further proof.
> "mike maghakian" <maghak...@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:OLmdnSmTqeH7cw7e4p2dnA@comcast.com... > >a couple of weeks ago I listed on eBay a broken FRG-7700 receiver. the > >buyer was gottahaveit1995. it was paid for and shipped to Martyn Allison. > > today, Radio-mart has listed that identical FRG-7700, including the CD I > > made and included. he made up a story that was not true that he had sold > > this receiver in working condition and it was returned broken. > > Radio-mart also happens to be Martyn Allison. and this is not the first > > time he bought something from me under gottahaveit1995 and sold it two > > weeks later as radio-mart > > the auctions in question are: 5837723543 and 5833316809 > > judge for yourself how honest this person is and if you can ever believe > > anything he says in his auctions.
> Michael Lawson wrote: > > "mike maghakian" <maghak...@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:OLmdnSmTqeH7cw7e4p2dnA@comcast.com... > >> a couple of weeks ago I listed on eBay a broken FRG-7700 receiver. > > the buyer > >> was gottahaveit1995. it was paid for and shipped to Martyn Allison. > >> today, Radio-mart has listed that identical FRG-7700, including the > > CD I > >> made and included. he made up a story that was not true that he had > > sold > >> this receiver in working condition and it was returned broken. > >> Radio-mart also happens to be Martyn Allison. and this is not the > > first time > >> he bought something from me under gottahaveit1995 and sold it two > > weeks > >> later as radio-mart > >> the auctions in question are: 5837723543 and 5833316809 > >> judge for yourself how honest this person is and if you can ever > > believe > >> anything he says in his auctions.
> > Yeah, I was bidding on a radio 2 weeks ago, and he tried > > to sneak in at the last second and win it, but was denied > > by someone who really really wanted that radio.
> > --Mike L.
> Both he and Radios4You regularly read this forum and adapt their > practices by what they read here, resulting in things like the hidden > bidders and feedback. On at least two instances after technical > discussions in which I participated, I was contacted by one of them with > a request to take on a project for one of their newly acquired radios. I > declined both times. I'm sure I wasn't the only one contacted.
Wouldn't surprise me in the least. The best thing to do when bidding is to become knowledgeable on what you're bidding so that you know what's really going on.
> One of the things that happens when you post something to a public > forum such as this, is it attracts attention from those you'd rather not > have looking over your shoulder. Radio-Mart and Radios4You being only > two. And when someone, as happens here, telegraphs a distaste for a > vendor and suggests, as has happened here, an intent to interfere in a > transaction by contacting bidders directly, such comments provoke a > response.
In the case of these guys and eBay in general, be skeptical of anything unusual, such as private auctions. Sure, there are probably plenty of nice private auctions out there, but let's face it: if you can't see what's going on before you bid, then maybe you ought to not bid on it. After all, stuff comes up all the time.
> Commenting on absurd prices, or questionable products is one thing. > Not unlike telling your friends that a different vendor has better > pricing, higher quality, or more diversified offerings. We do that every > day in recommending Universal, HRO, Grove or any of the other vendors > with whom we deal. Stating an intent to follow someone into a store and > tell him/her about bad experiences, questionable ethics, or > misrepresented products is quite another matter. And the vendor, no > matter how shady, shifty and malintended he/she may be has the right and > the power to close doors to such direct accusations, especially in their > own store. eBay's analog to that is the hidden bidder/private auction.
> If someone would really wish to do something effective in having an > impact on these guy's business practices, stop telling the world what > you're going to do. Once the intent has been stated, preemptive defense > is the next step.
> If neither of these guys openly state, "I'm going to buy questionable > goods, put them up for sale at inflated prices and sell them as New In > Box," then don't openly state what you're going to do to impact such > questionable practices.
> You don't win a chess game by laying out your moves in advance.
Or better yet, create a budget and stick to it. Don't get sucked into bidding more than you want to, and if you can, instead of an online auction go and look at the thing at a hamfest.
The Truth About Radio-Mart is this: The root cause of this fraud is the simple fact that eBay allows it to happen.
Think of it: A seller sells gottahaveit1995 a radio. Ebay gets paid. Martyn then sells the radio as radio-mart. The same item sells again some three weeks later (usually for MORE money).....guess what: Ebay gets paid again!
What incentive is there for eBay to clean up these types of sellers? Answer: none. Remember Martyn's "Summer Vacation" away from ebay about two years ago....well, eBay did reinstate him after being caught shill bidding....what (again) does that say about the Bay?
Ebay is only as honest as the individual seller is honest. It can be as corrupt as any seller wants it to be, within eBay's broad sellers rules.
We are the real dopes, selling Mr. Martyn all of our stuff and then bidding it up when we know full well that it's trash. Take a look at some the "mint" equipment he sells...you can see the knicks and rust on the cabinets for heavens' sake.
He's been blocked as a buyer of my equipment and shall remain so, no matter how much he's willing to bid.
"mike maghakian" <maghak...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>a couple of weeks ago I listed on eBay a broken FRG-7700 receiver. the >buyer was gottahaveit1995. it was paid for and shipped to Martyn Allison. > today, Radio-mart has listed that identical FRG-7700, including the CD I > made and included. he made up a story that was not true that he had sold > this receiver in working condition and it was returned broken. > Radio-mart also happens to be Martyn Allison. and this is not the first > time he bought something from me under gottahaveit1995 and sold it two > weeks later as radio-mart > the auctions in question are: 5837723543 and 5833316809 > judge for yourself how honest this person is and if you can ever believe > anything he says in his auctions.
> >> I refuse to deal with radiomart because of the private bidders, but > >> appreciate the documentation that he is a crook. I assume the private > >> bidders are to use shills.
> > Noooooo... it's so that those who are wise to him can't alert the bidders.
> > dxAce > > Michigan > > USA
> I imagine it's for both reasons. If you can't see whos bidding, you can't > tell if your being shilled or not. He did get kicked off for that reason, if > you remember.
mike maghakian wrote: > a couple of weeks ago I listed on eBay a broken FRG-7700 receiver. the > buyer was gottahaveit1995. it was paid for and shipped to Martyn Allison. > today, Radio-mart has listed that identical FRG-7700, including the CD I > made and included. he made up a story that was not true that he had sold > this receiver in working condition and it was returned broken. > Radio-mart also happens to be Martyn Allison. and this is not the first > time he bought something from me under gottahaveit1995 and sold it two > weeks later as radio-mart > the auctions in question are: 5837723543 and 5833316809 > judge for yourself how honest this person is and if you can ever believe > anything he says in his auctions.
Thank you for the heads up on this one.
that "person: appears to have more I.D.'s than an undercover agent for the CIA. I was about to bid on that as I need a newer frg series radio to go along with the old frg-7 I now have.
I can already tell that his price on the second auction (2 at the same time for the same radio) has already gone beyond what the radio is worth in real dollars. so, I guess its time to hunt down another.
-- DE N7ZZT Eric Oyen Phoenix, Arizona e-mail: n7zzt(at)hotmail(dot)com the difference between intelligence and stupidity is that intelligence has its limits.
IonSpot wrote: > The Truth About Radio-Mart is this: The root cause of this fraud is the > simple fact that eBay allows it to happen.
> Think of it: A seller sells gottahaveit1995 a radio. Ebay gets paid. > Martyn then sells the radio as radio-mart. The same item sells again some > three weeks later (usually for MORE money).....guess what: Ebay gets paid > again!
You have just described hundreds of thousands of Ebay deals... Every sellers dream is to sell their goods for more than they paid.
> What incentive is there for eBay to clean up these types of sellers? > Answer: none. Remember Martyn's "Summer Vacation" away from ebay about two > years ago....well, eBay did reinstate him after being caught shill > bidding....what (again) does that say about the Bay?
Ebay reinstates lots of sellers after a probation...so what.
> Ebay is only as honest as the individual seller is honest. It can be as > corrupt as any seller wants it to be, within eBay's broad sellers rules.
Ebay can't police the quality of goods sold...that's up to the buyer and seller to figure out. Ebay is first and foremost a broker. If something is illegal, violates property rights, is dangerous or is on a list of banned goods then they sometimes jump in.
> We are the real dopes, selling Mr. Martyn all of our stuff and then bidding > it up when we know full well that it's trash. Take a look at some the > "mint" equipment he sells...you can see the knicks and rust on the cabinets > for heavens' sake.
I'm confused here. You know your stuff is trash and yet you sell it anyway. And then once you have sold it to Mr. Martyn you then bid it up???? If he's the crook you say he is then you are sounding more like a co-conspirator......
Ebay is full of people selling worn out rusty stuff...it's up to the seller to ask the right questions before sending in his money. Caveat emptor is the first rule of doing business on Ebay!!
> He's been blocked as a buyer of my equipment and shall remain so, no matter > how much he's willing to bid.
This and previous threads are beginning to sound more like whining from a bunch of disgruntled sellers who can't compete with a high volume dealer.
mike maghakian wrote: > a couple of weeks ago I listed on eBay a broken FRG-7700 receiver. > the buyer was gottahaveit1995. it was paid for and shipped to Martyn > Allison. today, Radio-mart has listed that identical FRG-7700, including > the > CD I made and included. he made up a story that was not true that he > had sold this receiver in working condition and it was returned > broken. Radio-mart also happens to be Martyn Allison. and this is not the > first time he bought something from me under gottahaveit1995 and sold > it two weeks later as radio-mart > the auctions in question are: 5837723543 and 5833316809 > judge for yourself how honest this person is and if you can ever > believe anything he says in his auctions.
I have purchased items on Ebay with very good results. I have also bought from RRS members with the same good results. Whle I'm sure I will sell something on Ebay someday, I prefer to sell a something I bought to someone else who will enjoy it as much as I did, or who needs a part I don't.
BTW, the flat black metal R8A knob I bought from Mike Maghakian is outstanding!.
On 5 Dec 2005 13:13:38 -0800, "John S." <hjs...@cs.com> wrote:
>You know your stuff is trash and yet you sell it >anyway. And then once you have sold it to Mr. Martyn you then bid it >up???? If he's the crook you say he is then you are sounding more like >a co-conspirator......
How does this justify his actions though? Co-conspirators or not, it's still a scam, right?
