I was in a Radio Shack for the first time in about a year and I notice they no longer sell their own models but sell Grundig, etc. Did Radio Shack get completely out of making the DX series?? There must be some good discounts out there somewhere on the DX models if that is the case.
The deep discounts were a little over a year ago, around Oct-Nov 2002. I picked up two DX-396s for $50, a DX-402 for $50, and a DX-398 for $99. Basically I got all four radios for the list price of the DX-398 alone.
I gave the DX-396s as gifts, but still use the DX-402 and DX-398. Both are very good radios.
> I was in a Radio Shack for the first time in about a year and I notice they > no longer sell their own models but sell Grundig, etc. Did Radio Shack get > completely out of making the DX series?? There must be some good discounts > out there somewhere on the DX models if that is the case.
> The deep discounts were a little over a year ago, around Oct-Nov 2002. I > picked up two DX-396s for $50, a DX-402 for $50, and a DX-398 for $99. > Basically I got all four radios for the list price of the DX-398 alone.
> I gave the DX-396s as gifts, but still use the DX-402 and DX-398. Both are > very good radios.
> Bob
Agree with Bob's response, but also think it's worth pointing out (given the original header of the post) that, to my knowledge, Radio Shack *never* "made" their own radios. Some of their stuff is "made to their specifications" however you want to interpret that, but I don't think they have their own manufacturing facility for anything, and don't know if they ever did. The DX-402 Bob refers to, for example, was made by Sangean.
Tony
> "snow" <dless...@powerlink.net> wrote in message > news:1018jse9ivpl240@corp.supernews.com... > > I was in a Radio Shack for the first time in about a year and I notice > they > > no longer sell their own models but sell Grundig, etc. Did Radio Shack get > > completely out of making the DX series?? There must be some good discounts > > out there somewhere on the DX models if that is the case.
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The ONLY thing Radio Shack makes is "Coax and other wire/cable" And it is *SHIT* quality. Scanners by Uniden, Stereos are last years Pioneers with special faceplates, and a lot of the new stuff is made by Cyberhome and even has the MFGR's label on it. Ham stuff was made by "Maxon". Radio-Shack is nothing more than a "Re-Badger"...Eddie
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> The ONLY thing Radio Shack makes is "Coax and other wire/cable" And it is > *SHIT* quality. > Scanners by Uniden, Stereos are last years Pioneers with special faceplates, > and a lot of the new stuff is made by Cyberhome and even has the MFGR's > label on it. Ham stuff was made by "Maxon". > Radio-Shack is nothing more than a "Re-Badger"...Eddie
Don't forget those portable cassette decks they have been having made by Hitachi for 30+ years.. even the style hasn't changed much.. :)
I was in a Radio Shack for the first time in about a year and I notice they no longer sell their own models but sell Grundig, etc. Did Radio Shack get completely out of making the DX series?? There must be some good discounts out there somewhere on the DX models if that is the case.
"snow" <dless...@powerlink.net> wrote in message <news:1018jse9ivpl240@corp.supernews.com>... > I was in a Radio Shack for the first time in about a year and I notice they > no longer sell their own models but sell Grundig, etc. Did Radio Shack get > completely out of making the DX series?? There must be some good discounts > out there somewhere on the DX models if that is the case.
Speaking of Radio Shack, I was real disappointed in their sales people a couple of weeks ago when I purchased their SW antenna kit. I'm an electronics dummy so I asked them some very basic questions about hooking the antenna up to my Sony 7600GR....like hooking up the lead in wire to a plug (which I bought from them) that has a hot pin and a ground sleeve. They had no clue. First they said hook it up to the ground, then the hot, and finally both! This happened at two stores. I remember not too long ago when their commercials bragged how their salespeople were electronics experts....well, now they don't even know the basics of the stuff they sell.
> Agree with Bob's response, but also think it's worth pointing out > (given the original header of the post) that, to my knowledge, Radio > Shack *never* "made" their own radios. Some of their stuff is "made to > their specifications" however you want to interpret that, but I don't > think they have their own manufacturing facility for anything, and don't > know if they ever did. The DX-402 Bob refers to, for example, was made > by Sangean.
> Tony
> > "snow" <dless...@powerlink.net> wrote in message > > news:1018jse9ivpl240@corp.supernews.com... > > > I was in a Radio Shack for the first time in about a year and I notice > > they > > > no longer sell their own models but sell Grundig, etc. Did Radio Shack get > > > completely out of making the DX series?? There must be some good discounts > > > out there somewhere on the DX models if that is the case.
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= = = wrote in message <news:90294ce8.0401270645.122760ee@posting.google.com>... > "snow" <dless...@powerlink.net> wrote in message <news:1018jse9ivpl240@corp.supernews.com>... > > I was in a Radio Shack for the first time in about a year and I notice they > > no longer sell their own models but sell Grundig, etc. Did Radio Shack get > > completely out of making the DX series?? There must be some good discounts > > out there somewhere on the DX models if that is the case.
> Speaking of Radio Shack, I was real disappointed in their sales people > a couple of weeks ago when I purchased their SW antenna kit. I'm an > electronics dummy so I asked them some very basic questions about > hooking the antenna up to my Sony 7600GR....like hooking up the lead > in wire to a plug (which I bought from them) that has a hot pin and a > ground sleeve. They had no clue. First they said hook it up to the > ground, then the hot, and finally both! This happened at two stores. > I remember not too long ago when their commercials bragged how their > salespeople were electronics experts....well, now they don't even know > the basics of the stuff they sell.
>Speaking of Radio Shack, I was real disappointed in their sales people >a couple of weeks ago when I purchased their SW antenna kit. I'm an >electronics dummy so I asked them some very basic questions about >hooking the antenna up to my Sony 7600GR....like hooking up the lead >in wire to a plug (which I bought from them) that has a hot pin and a >ground sleeve. They had no clue. First they said hook it up to the >ground, then the hot, and finally both! This happened at two stores. >I remember not too long ago when their commercials bragged how their >salespeople were electronics experts....well, now they don't even know >the basics of the stuff they sell.
The URL is still good but the product is now named:
C. Crane AM Antenna with Twin Coil Ferrite (TCF)
If anyone wants a very well-done review, throw +stinger and +"justice antenna" into google.
I said I'd give an "informal" opinion on it.
My observations are:
1. On many frequencies - both day and night - I will be receiving absolutely nothing but static + rushing noise with the CCRadio+. When I turn on and tune the CC Antenna, I'll get a reasonably strong station "most of the time" (subjective).
2. Particularly at night but - occasionally during the day - I can, by tuning the antenna, actually get two stations on one frequency and get both of them quite well enough for them to be "clear (or "4x4" if you like that sort of rating).
The antenna works.
I'm in a horrible location over the river and under the hill and with only a sealed-window facing South for an indoor antenna. I have the antenna itself at the midpoint (where the top and bottom meet).
A very impressive antenna.
Gray Shockley -------------------------------------------------------- Oh! There's one at CCrane on the Orphans Page for eighty dollars.
> The URL is still good but the product is now named:
> C. Crane AM Antenna with Twin Coil Ferrite (TCF)
> If anyone wants a very well-done review, throw +stinger and +"justice > antenna" into google.
> I said I'd give an "informal" opinion on it.
> My observations are:
> 1. On many frequencies - both day and night - I will be receiving > absolutely nothing but static + rushing noise with the CCRadio+. When I turn > on and tune the CC Antenna, I'll get a reasonably strong station "most of the > time" (subjective).
> 2. Particularly at night but - occasionally during the day - I can, by > tuning the antenna, actually get two stations on one frequency and get both > of them quite well enough for them to be "clear (or "4x4" if you like that > sort of rating).
> The antenna works.
> I'm in a horrible location over the river and under the hill and with only a > sealed-window facing South for an indoor antenna. I have the antenna itself > at the midpoint (where the top and bottom meet).
> A very impressive antenna.
> Gray Shockley > -------------------------------------------------------- > Oh! There's one at CCrane on the > Orphans Page for eighty dollars.
> I guess I am Going to have to 'create' a WebPage
> "The RadioShack Shortwave Antenna Kit NOT!"
> * Coming So To Your Nearest Search Engine !
> * Bigger that a Shortwave !
> * More Powerful than any Radio in your Shack !
> * Watch Out You May Be Antennify !
> * Yes... This Is The Whole KIT and Kabodle !
> CAUTION: Batteries Not Included.
> WARNING: Parental Supervision May Be Require.
> Just For The Fum Of It ~ RHF > .. > .. > = = = geor...@volcanomail.com (georgek) > = = = wrote in message <news:90294ce8.0401270645.122760ee@posting.google.com>... > > "snow" <dless...@powerlink.net> wrote in message <news:1018jse9ivpl240@corp.supernews.com>... > > > I was in a Radio Shack for the first time in about a year and I notice they > > > no longer sell their own models but sell Grundig, etc. Did Radio Shack get > > > completely out of making the DX series?? There must be some good discounts > > > out there somewhere on the DX models if that is the case.
> > Speaking of Radio Shack, I was real disappointed in their sales people > > a couple of weeks ago when I purchased their SW antenna kit. I'm an > > electronics dummy so I asked them some very basic questions about > > hooking the antenna up to my Sony 7600GR....like hooking up the lead > > in wire to a plug (which I bought from them) that has a hot pin and a > > ground sleeve. They had no clue. First they said hook it up to the > > ground, then the hot, and finally both! This happened at two stores. > > I remember not too long ago when their commercials bragged how their > > salespeople were electronics experts....well, now they don't even know > > the basics of the stuff they sell.
They're only minimum wage droids who barely have enough knowledge to flip hamburgers (their last job). I went to a RS for something and the store was empty so I got to talking with the salesgirl clerk. She said that she makes $7 an hour, took the job because there was nothing else available and she didn't have a college degree (this was a few months after the terrorist attacks), and is trained to sell cellphones. She said that people ask her questions about "that stuff back there" (the parts section) but she doesn't know what it is, much less what it's meant for. She said I knew more about it than she did.
> "Tony Meloche" <amelo...@remc11.k12.mi.us> wrote in message > news:40146273.BFB36D46@remc11.k12.mi.us... > Radio Shack is owned by Tandy. Tandy does manufacture wire.
But the point is they didn't make radios. Most of their SW line was rebadged Sangeans, except for the DX396 and maybe another model, which were made by a company in China that I never did find out who it was. I had a look at the radio line of one of the biggest RS's in my area and they sold only two SW capable radios, the Grundig YB400 and the Grundig windup. Shortwave must not be too popular these days, or else the cellphones have greater profit margins.
> > Agree with Bob's response, but also think it's worth pointing out > > (given the original header of the post) that, to my knowledge, Radio > > Shack *never* "made" their own radios. Some of their stuff is "made to > > their specifications" however you want to interpret that, but I don't > > think they have their own manufacturing facility for anything, and don't > > know if they ever did. The DX-402 Bob refers to, for example, was made > > by Sangean.
> > Tony
> > > "snow" <dless...@powerlink.net> wrote in message > > > news:1018jse9ivpl240@corp.supernews.com... > > > > I was in a Radio Shack for the first time in about a year and I notice > > > they > > > > no longer sell their own models but sell Grundig, etc. Did Radio Shack > get > > > > completely out of making the DX series?? There must be some good > discounts > > > > out there somewhere on the DX models if that is the case.
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Yeah, the folks left at C.Crane renamed the Chris Justice Antenna (now that he's no longer with them -- he's at RadioLabs).
I agree with everything you wrote about it. If you live in an accidental "Faraday cage" because of metal studs or siding, it's a great way to bring in strong AM signals.
Also, to answer another post, yes -- it is directional, but I don't find it as quite as directional as a CCRadio+, even though it has two of the same 8-inch ferrite coils in it that the CCRadio has.
-- Stinger
"Gray Shockley" <gray-...@cybercoffee.org> wrote in message
> The URL is still good but the product is now named:
> C. Crane AM Antenna with Twin Coil Ferrite (TCF)
> If anyone wants a very well-done review, throw +stinger and +"justice > antenna" into google.
> I said I'd give an "informal" opinion on it.
> My observations are:
> 1. On many frequencies - both day and night - I will be receiving > absolutely nothing but static + rushing noise with the CCRadio+. When I turn > on and tune the CC Antenna, I'll get a reasonably strong station "most of the > time" (subjective).
> 2. Particularly at night but - occasionally during the day - I can, by > tuning the antenna, actually get two stations on one frequency and get both > of them quite well enough for them to be "clear (or "4x4" if you like that > sort of rating).
> The antenna works.
> I'm in a horrible location over the river and under the hill and with only a > sealed-window facing South for an indoor antenna. I have the antenna itself > at the midpoint (where the top and bottom meet).
> A very impressive antenna.
> Gray Shockley > -------------------------------------------------------- > Oh! There's one at CCrane on the > Orphans Page for eighty dollars.
> > "Tony Meloche" <amelo...@remc11.k12.mi.us> wrote in message > > news:40146273.BFB36D46@remc11.k12.mi.us... > > Radio Shack is owned by Tandy. Tandy does manufacture wire.
> But the point is they didn't make radios. Most of their SW line was > rebadged Sangeans, except for the DX396 and maybe another model, which > were made by a company in China that I never did find out who it was. I > had a look at the radio line of one of the biggest RS's in my area and > they sold only two SW capable radios, the Grundig YB400 and the Grundig > windup. Shortwave must not be too popular these days, or else the > cellphones have greater profit margins.
> > > Agree with Bob's response, but also think it's worth pointing out > > > (given the original header of the post) that, to my knowledge, Radio > > > Shack *never* "made" their own radios. Some of their stuff is "made to > > > their specifications" however you want to interpret that, but I don't > > > think they have their own manufacturing facility for anything, and don't > > > know if they ever did. The DX-402 Bob refers to, for example, was made > > > by Sangean.
> > > Tony
> > > > "snow" <dless...@powerlink.net> wrote in message > > > > news:1018jse9ivpl240@corp.supernews.com... > > > > > I was in a Radio Shack for the first time in about a year and I notice > > > > they > > > > > no longer sell their own models but sell Grundig, etc. Did Radio Shack > > get > > > > > completely out of making the DX series?? There must be some good > > discounts > > > > > out there somewhere on the DX models if that is the case.
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"Stinger" <cont...@newsserveronly.com> wrote in message news:TS%Rb.4960> > Also, to answer another post, yes -- it is directional, but I don't find it > as quite as directional as a CCRadio+, even though it has two of the same > 8-inch ferrite coils in it that the CCRadio has.
> > The URL is still good but the product is now named:
> > C. Crane AM Antenna with Twin Coil Ferrite (TCF)
> > If anyone wants a very well-done review, throw +stinger and +"justice > > antenna" into google.
> > I said I'd give an "informal" opinion on it.
> > My observations are:
> > 1. On many frequencies - both day and night - I will be receiving > > absolutely nothing but static + rushing noise with the CCRadio+. When I > turn > > on and tune the CC Antenna, I'll get a reasonably strong station "most of > the > > time" (subjective).
> > 2. Particularly at night but - occasionally during the day - I can, by > > tuning the antenna, actually get two stations on one frequency and get > both > > of them quite well enough for them to be "clear (or "4x4" if you like that > > sort of rating).
> > The antenna works.
> > I'm in a horrible location over the river and under the hill and with only > a > > sealed-window facing South for an indoor antenna. I have the antenna > itself > > at the midpoint (where the top and bottom meet).
> > A very impressive antenna.
> > Gray Shockley > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > Oh! There's one at CCrane on the > > Orphans Page for eighty dollars.
I would Agree with your assessment of the Justice AM Antenna.
"Also, to answer another post, yes -- it is directional, but I don't find it as quite as directional as a CCRadio+, even though it has two of the same 8-inch ferrite coils in it that the CCRadio has."
To me Justice AM Antenna by C. Crane Co. is a "Great Signal Magnet" for those who are in locations that have very poor AM/MW Reception.
* The Justice AM Antenna is directional but not as directional as a Select-A-Tenna Model 541-M; or a home made Box Loop Antenna of about 15" or bigger.
* The Justice AM Antenna's 'advantage' over the Select-A-Tenna Model 541-M; or a home made Box Loop Antenna of about 15" or bigger; is that is an ACTIVE "Tuned AM/MW Antenna" and because of it's built-in Amplifier the Justice AM Antenna has more Gain. SAT=> http://www.selectatenna.com/
FWIW: For me the Justice AM Antenna will Always be the "Justice AM Antenna (JAMA) that is sold by the 'c. crane co.' . JAMA=> http://www.ccrane.com/justice_antenna.asp
TBL: The Justice AM Antenna is the 'best' VALUE for the $100 of any of the Commercial AM/MW Antennas on the Market Today. - PENDING - The Release of the upcoming "PETE [KE9OA] MW Loop Antenna".
Two Messages to READ about the Justice AM Antenna:
Yeah, the folks left at C.Crane renamed the Chris Justice Antenna (now that he's no longer with them -- he's at RadioLabs).
I agree with everything you wrote about it. If you live in an accidental "Faraday cage" because of metal studs or siding, it's a great way to bring in strong AM signals.
Also, to answer another post, yes -- it is directional, but I don't find it as quite as directional as a CCRadio+, even though it has two of the same 8-inch ferrite coils in it that the CCRadio has.
> > The URL is still good but the product is now named:
> > C. Crane AM Antenna with Twin Coil Ferrite (TCF)
> > If anyone wants a very well-done review, throw +stinger and +"justice > > antenna" into google.
> > I said I'd give an "informal" opinion on it.
> > My observations are:
> > 1. On many frequencies - both day and night - I will be receiving > > absolutely nothing but static + rushing noise with the CCRadio+. When I > turn > > on and tune the CC Antenna, I'll get a reasonably strong station "most of > the > > time" (subjective).
> > 2. Particularly at night but - occasionally during the day - I can, by > > tuning the antenna, actually get two stations on one frequency and get > both > > of them quite well enough for them to be "clear (or "4x4" if you like that > > sort of rating).
> > The antenna works.
> > I'm in a horrible location over the river and under the hill and with only > a > > sealed-window facing South for an indoor antenna. I have the antenna > itself > > at the midpoint (where the top and bottom meet).
> > A very impressive antenna.
> > Gray Shockley > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > Oh! There's one at CCrane on the > > Orphans Page for eighty dollars. > > <http://www.ccrane.com/orphans.asp>
RHF wrote: > * The Justice AM Antenna is directional but not as directional > as a Select-A-Tenna Model 541-M; or a home made Box Loop Antenna > of about 15" or bigger.
All small antennas have the same nulls, the problem being that they all have two patterns: a magnetic field pattern (with infinitely deep nulls), and an electric field pattern (with infinitely deep nulls) that doesn't null anywhere near the same place.
So in the nulls of the magnetic field pattern, you hear the electric field signal instead of silence.
Careful balance and symmetry can eliminate most of the electric field response, and that's how you get deep magnetic nulls.
If it's on the end of a long cable, it starts picking up electric field again.
You can make it less important by having the first amplifier at the antenna itself.
The passive MW loops work not by gathering signal (signal magnet) but by matching impedance. Active ones work by having a lower internal noise level than the receiver they front for. -- Ron Hardin rhhar...@mindspring.com
Well my simply (No Theory Required) Empirical Evidence using several small commercial AM/MW Loop Antennas: RadioShack AM Loop Antenna; Terk AM Advantage Loop Antenna, and Select-A-Tenna Model #541-M. That there were differences in the Peaks and Nulls of each Antenna when used with a variety of small 'portable' radios.
Even the Kiwa MW Air Core Loop Antenna and the Quantum "QX" Loop Antenna have different Peak and Null characteristics when I have used them with my Kenwood R-5000 and Icom IC-R75 (R-75).
When I compared the Justice AM Antenna (JAMA) to the Select-A-Tenna (SAT) Model 541-M the Peaks and Nulls were different.
The SAT had a relatively Sharp Peak and Normal Null. - If you move the SAT 'off' Peak by 30* you could see the Peak fall-off. - From 30* to 80* the Signal would taper-off uniformly. - From 80* to 90* the Signal would decline further to the Null.
The JAMA had a Wide Peak with a Sharp Null. - If you move the JAMA 'off' Peak by 30* you would not see the Peak fall-off as much. - From 30* to 80* the Signal would not change greatly. - From 80* to 90* the Signal would dramatically fall to the Null.
This Is Why I Say: The Justice AM Antenna (JAMA) is a Good Signal Magnet for weak AM/MW Signal Locations.
= = = wrote in message <news:4018FFD2.5921@mindspring.com>... > RHF wrote: > > * The Justice AM Antenna is directional but not as directional > > as a Select-A-Tenna Model 541-M; or a home made Box Loop Antenna > > of about 15" or bigger.
All small antennas have the same nulls, the problem being that they all have two patterns: a magnetic field pattern (with infinitely deep nulls), and an electric field pattern (with infinitely deep nulls) that doesn't null anywhere near the same place.
So in the nulls of the magnetic field pattern, you hear the electric field signal instead of silence.
Careful balance and symmetry can eliminate most of the electric field response, and that's how you get deep magnetic nulls.
If it's on the end of a long cable, it starts picking up electric field again.
You can make it less important by having the first amplifier at the antenna itself.
The passive MW loops work not by gathering signal (signal magnet) but by matching impedance. Active ones work by having a lower internal noise level than the receiver they front for.
