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snow

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Jan 25, 2004, 6:18:47 PM1/25/04
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I was in a Radio Shack for the first time in about a year and I notice they
no longer sell their own models but sell Grundig, etc. Did Radio Shack get
completely out of making the DX series?? There must be some good discounts
out there somewhere on the DX models if that is the case.


Robert Sillett

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Jan 25, 2004, 7:15:59 PM1/25/04
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The deep discounts were a little over a year ago, around Oct-Nov 2002. I
picked up two DX-396s for $50, a DX-402 for $50, and a DX-398 for $99.
Basically I got all four radios for the list price of the DX-398 alone.

I gave the DX-396s as gifts, but still use the DX-402 and DX-398. Both are
very good radios.

Bob


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Tony Meloche

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Jan 25, 2004, 7:42:27 PM1/25/04
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Robert Sillett wrote:
>
> The deep discounts were a little over a year ago, around Oct-Nov 2002. I
> picked up two DX-396s for $50, a DX-402 for $50, and a DX-398 for $99.
> Basically I got all four radios for the list price of the DX-398 alone.
>
> I gave the DX-396s as gifts, but still use the DX-402 and DX-398. Both are
> very good radios.
>
> Bob

Agree with Bob's response, but also think it's worth pointing out
(given the original header of the post) that, to my knowledge, Radio
Shack *never* "made" their own radios. Some of their stuff is "made to
their specifications" however you want to interpret that, but I don't
think they have their own manufacturing facility for anything, and don't
know if they ever did. The DX-402 Bob refers to, for example, was made
by Sangean.

Tony

>
> "snow" <dles...@powerlink.net> wrote in message
> news:1018jse...@corp.supernews.com...
> > I was in a Radio Shack for the first time in about a year and I notice
> they
> > no longer sell their own models but sell Grundig, etc. Did Radio Shack get
> > completely out of making the DX series?? There must be some good discounts
> > out there somewhere on the DX models if that is the case.
> >
> >


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Bill Hennessy

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Jan 26, 2004, 3:54:19 PM1/26/04
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Just about all of the DX'ers were made by someone elce other than RS.

Bill, N5NOB


Eddie Haskel

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Jan 26, 2004, 10:56:05 PM1/26/04
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The ONLY thing Radio Shack makes is "Coax and other wire/cable" And it is
*SHIT* quality.
Scanners by Uniden, Stereos are last years Pioneers with special faceplates,
and a lot of the new stuff is made by Cyberhome and even has the MFGR's
label on it. Ham stuff was made by "Maxon".
Radio-Shack is nothing more than a "Re-Badger"...Eddie

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Brenda Ann

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Jan 26, 2004, 11:02:50 PM1/26/04
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"Eddie Haskel" <wis...@clever.com> wrote in message
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> The ONLY thing Radio Shack makes is "Coax and other wire/cable" And it is
> *SHIT* quality.
> Scanners by Uniden, Stereos are last years Pioneers with special
faceplates,
> and a lot of the new stuff is made by Cyberhome and even has the MFGR's
> label on it. Ham stuff was made by "Maxon".
> Radio-Shack is nothing more than a "Re-Badger"...Eddie

Don't forget those portable cassette decks they have been having made by
Hitachi for 30+ years.. even the style hasn't changed much.. :)

RHF

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Jan 27, 2004, 3:14:35 AM1/27/04
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SNOW,

A long long time ago many of RadioShack's Radios were made by Hitachi.

Then for many years, RadioShack used to Re-Badge other manufactures
radios and equipment with there own Brand Names.

More recently, Sangean has made most of RadioShacks "DX" Series
of World Band Radios.

Today RadioShack is becoming a Brand Name Re-Saler: Grundig; RCA;
Sprint; Dish TV; Direct TV; and others. (A 'mini' Circuit City)


jm2cw ~ RHF
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georgek

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Jan 27, 2004, 9:45:06 AM1/27/04
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"snow" <dles...@powerlink.net> wrote in message news:<1018jse...@corp.supernews.com>...

Speaking of Radio Shack, I was real disappointed in their sales people
a couple of weeks ago when I purchased their SW antenna kit. I'm an
electronics dummy so I asked them some very basic questions about
hooking the antenna up to my Sony 7600GR....like hooking up the lead
in wire to a plug (which I bought from them) that has a hot pin and a
ground sleeve. They had no clue. First they said hook it up to the
ground, then the hot, and finally both! This happened at two stores.
I remember not too long ago when their commercials bragged how their
salespeople were electronics experts....well, now they don't even know
the basics of the stuff they sell.

CW

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Jan 27, 2004, 11:34:44 AM1/27/04
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"Tony Meloche" <amel...@remc11.k12.mi.us> wrote in message
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Radio Shack is owned by Tandy. Tandy does manufacture wire.

RHF

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Jan 27, 2004, 3:19:46 PM1/27/04
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FO&A,

I guess I am Going to have to 'create' a WebPage

"The RadioShack Shortwave Antenna Kit NOT!"

* Coming So To Your Nearest Search Engine !

* Bigger that a Shortwave !

* More Powerful than any Radio in your Shack !

* Watch Out You May Be Antennify !

* Yes... This Is The Whole KIT and Kabodle !

CAUTION: Batteries Not Included.

WARNING: Parental Supervision May Be Require.


Just For The Fum Of It ~ RHF
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Diverd4777

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Jan 27, 2004, 7:33:03 PM1/27/04
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geo...@volcanomail.com

Check these links out...

http://www.universal-radio.com/

http://www.grove-ent.com

http://www.ccrane.com/

http://www.ccrane.com/justice_antenna.asp

http://www.mfjenterprises.com/index.php

All these guys Know SWR; antennas, ground, Pre amps, Scanners; frequencies,
propagation, ALL of it

Radio Shack is good for Cell phones & other cheap, tacky geegaws;
- maybe batteries in a pinch

- totally useless for SWR radio stuff

Ask them what " Radio Shack" means;

you just get a spaced out stare..

Dan


In article <90294ce8.04012...@posting.google.com>,

Gray Shockley

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Jan 27, 2004, 9:40:32 PM1/27/04
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On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:33:03 -0600, Diverd4777 wrote:

> Check these links out...
>

[chomp]

>
> http://www.ccrane.com/justice_antenna.asp


The URL is still good but the product is now named:

C. Crane AM Antenna with Twin Coil Ferrite (TCF)


If anyone wants a very well-done review, throw +stinger and +"justice
antenna" into google.


I said I'd give an "informal" opinion on it.


My observations are:

1. On many frequencies - both day and night - I will be receiving
absolutely nothing but static + rushing noise with the CCRadio+. When I turn
on and tune the CC Antenna, I'll get a reasonably strong station "most of the
time" (subjective).

2. Particularly at night but - occasionally during the day - I can, by
tuning the antenna, actually get two stations on one frequency and get both
of them quite well enough for them to be "clear (or "4x4" if you like that
sort of rating).


The antenna works.

I'm in a horrible location over the river and under the hill and with only a
sealed-window facing South for an indoor antenna. I have the antenna itself
at the midpoint (where the top and bottom meet).

A very impressive antenna.

Gray Shockley
--------------------------------------------------------
Oh! There's one at CCrane on the
Orphans Page for eighty dollars.


<http://www.ccrane.com/orphans.asp>


Eric Ferguson

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Jan 27, 2004, 9:42:31 PM1/27/04
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Can't remember when I last stepped into a *Radio Shack*. Do they still sell
*radios*? <g>

"You've got questions, we have blank stares!"


CW

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Jan 27, 2004, 11:11:44 PM1/27/04
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How directional is it?

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tommyknocker

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Jan 28, 2004, 10:30:28 PM1/28/04
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RHF wrote:

> FO&A,
>
> I guess I am Going to have to 'create' a WebPage
>
> "The RadioShack Shortwave Antenna Kit NOT!"
>
> * Coming So To Your Nearest Search Engine !
>
> * Bigger that a Shortwave !
>
> * More Powerful than any Radio in your Shack !
>
> * Watch Out You May Be Antennify !
>
> * Yes... This Is The Whole KIT and Kabodle !
>
> CAUTION: Batteries Not Included.
>
> WARNING: Parental Supervision May Be Require.
>
>
> Just For The Fum Of It ~ RHF
> ..

> ..


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> > "snow" <dles...@powerlink.net> wrote in message news:<1018jse...@corp.supernews.com>...
> > > I was in a Radio Shack for the first time in about a year and I notice they
> > > no longer sell their own models but sell Grundig, etc. Did Radio Shack get
> > > completely out of making the DX series?? There must be some good discounts
> > > out there somewhere on the DX models if that is the case.
> >
> > Speaking of Radio Shack, I was real disappointed in their sales people
> > a couple of weeks ago when I purchased their SW antenna kit. I'm an
> > electronics dummy so I asked them some very basic questions about
> > hooking the antenna up to my Sony 7600GR....like hooking up the lead
> > in wire to a plug (which I bought from them) that has a hot pin and a
> > ground sleeve. They had no clue. First they said hook it up to the
> > ground, then the hot, and finally both! This happened at two stores.
> > I remember not too long ago when their commercials bragged how their
> > salespeople were electronics experts....well, now they don't even know
> > the basics of the stuff they sell.

They're only minimum wage droids who barely have enough knowledge to
flip hamburgers (their last job). I went to a RS for something and the
store was empty so I got to talking with the salesgirl clerk. She said
that she makes $7 an hour, took the job because there was nothing else
available and she didn't have a college degree (this was a few months
after the terrorist attacks), and is trained to sell cellphones. She
said that people ask her questions about "that stuff back there" (the
parts section) but she doesn't know what it is, much less what it's
meant for. She said I knew more about it than she did.


tommyknocker

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Jan 28, 2004, 10:35:31 PM1/28/04
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CW wrote:

>
> "Tony Meloche" <amel...@remc11.k12.mi.us> wrote in message
> news:40146273...@remc11.k12.mi.us...
> Radio Shack is owned by Tandy. Tandy does manufacture wire.

But the point is they didn't make radios. Most of their SW line was
rebadged Sangeans, except for the DX396 and maybe another model, which
were made by a company in China that I never did find out who it was. I
had a look at the radio line of one of the biggest RS's in my area and
they sold only two SW capable radios, the Grundig YB400 and the Grundig
windup. Shortwave must not be too popular these days, or else the
cellphones have greater profit margins.

Stinger

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Jan 28, 2004, 11:24:02 PM1/28/04
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Hi, Gray!

Yeah, the folks left at C.Crane renamed the Chris Justice Antenna (now that
he's no longer with them -- he's at RadioLabs).

I agree with everything you wrote about it. If you live in an accidental
"Faraday cage" because of metal studs or siding, it's a great way to bring
in strong AM signals.

Also, to answer another post, yes -- it is directional, but I don't find it
as quite as directional as a CCRadio+, even though it has two of the same
8-inch ferrite coils in it that the CCRadio has.

-- Stinger

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CW

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Jan 29, 2004, 12:46:42 AM1/29/04
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Your reading comprehension needs work. The claim was that RS ever made
anything (read it again, slowly). That is not the case.

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CW

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Jan 29, 2004, 12:48:53 AM1/29/04
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Finaly, someone that could answer my question. Thanks.

"Stinger" <con...@newsserveronly.com> wrote in message news:TS%Rb.4960>

RHF

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Jan 29, 2004, 7:14:54 AM1/29/04
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STINGER,

I would Agree with your assessment of the Justice AM Antenna.

"Also, to answer another post, yes -- it is directional, but I don't
find it as quite as directional as a CCRadio+, even though it has
two of the same 8-inch ferrite coils in it that the CCRadio has."

To me Justice AM Antenna by C. Crane Co. is a "Great Signal Magnet"
for those who are in locations that have very poor AM/MW Reception.

* The Justice AM Antenna is directional but not as directional
as a Select-A-Tenna Model 541-M; or a home made Box Loop Antenna
of about 15" or bigger.

* The Justice AM Antenna's 'advantage' over the Select-A-Tenna
Model 541-M; or a home made Box Loop Antenna of about 15" or bigger;
is that is an ACTIVE "Tuned AM/MW Antenna" and because of it's
built-in Amplifier the Justice AM Antenna has more Gain.
SAT=> http://www.selectatenna.com/

IMHO: When compared to the Quantum "QX" Loop Antenna or the Kiwa MW
Air Core Loop Antenna: The Justice AM Antenna is NOT as Directional
as those two.
QX=> http://www.dxtools.com/PRODUCTS.htm
KIWA=> http://www.kiwa.com/kiwaloop.html

FWIW: For me the Justice AM Antenna will Always be the "Justice
AM Antenna (JAMA) that is sold by the 'c. crane co.' .
JAMA=> http://www.ccrane.com/justice_antenna.asp

TBL: The Justice AM Antenna is the 'best' VALUE for the $100 of
any of the Commercial AM/MW Antennas on the Market Today.
- PENDING - The Release of the upcoming "PETE [KE9OA] MW Loop Antenna".


Two Messages to READ about the Justice AM Antenna:

* Remote Road Side (Mobile) AM/MW DXing from a Car
with the Justice AM Antenna.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWL-AM-FM-Antenna/message/261

* The Justice AM Loop Antenna = My Thoughts . . .
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWL-AM-FM-Antenna/message/510


iane ~ RHF
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Some Say: On A Clear Day You Can See Forever.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWL-AM-FM-Antenna/message/502
I BELIEVE: On A Clear Night... You Can Hear Forever and Beyond !
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JAMA JAMA JAMA JAMA JAMA JAMA JAMA JAMA JAMA JAMA JAMA JAMA JAMA JAMA
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Ron Hardin

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Jan 29, 2004, 7:42:50 AM1/29/04
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RHF wrote:
> * The Justice AM Antenna is directional but not as directional
> as a Select-A-Tenna Model 541-M; or a home made Box Loop Antenna
> of about 15" or bigger.

All small antennas have the same nulls, the problem being that
they all have two patterns: a magnetic field pattern (with infinitely
deep nulls), and an electric field pattern (with infinitely deep nulls)
that doesn't null anywhere near the same place.

So in the nulls of the magnetic field pattern, you hear the electric
field signal instead of silence.

Careful balance and symmetry can eliminate most of the electric
field response, and that's how you get deep magnetic nulls.

If it's on the end of a long cable, it starts picking up electric
field again.

You can make it less important by having the first amplifier at the
antenna itself.

The passive MW loops work not by gathering signal (signal magnet) but
by matching impedance. Active ones work by having a lower internal
noise level than the receiver they front for.
--
Ron Hardin
rhha...@mindspring.com

On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

CW

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Jan 29, 2004, 11:11:56 AM1/29/04
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You spreading this horseshit again?

"Ron Hardin" <rhha...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> antenna itself.
>
> The passive MW loops work not by gathering signal (signal magnet) but

> by matching impedance. > Ron Hardin

RHF

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Jan 30, 2004, 5:36:41 PM1/30/04
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RH,

Well my simply (No Theory Required) Empirical Evidence using several
small commercial AM/MW Loop Antennas: RadioShack AM Loop Antenna;
Terk AM Advantage Loop Antenna, and Select-A-Tenna Model #541-M.
That there were differences in the Peaks and Nulls of each Antenna
when used with a variety of small 'portable' radios.

Even the Kiwa MW Air Core Loop Antenna and the Quantum "QX" Loop
Antenna have different Peak and Null characteristics when I have
used them with my Kenwood R-5000 and Icom IC-R75 (R-75).

When I compared the Justice AM Antenna (JAMA) to the Select-A-Tenna
(SAT) Model 541-M the Peaks and Nulls were different.

The SAT had a relatively Sharp Peak and Normal Null.
- If you move the SAT 'off' Peak by 30* you could see the Peak fall-off.
- From 30* to 80* the Signal would taper-off uniformly.
- From 80* to 90* the Signal would decline further to the Null.

The JAMA had a Wide Peak with a Sharp Null.
- If you move the JAMA 'off' Peak by 30* you would not see the
Peak fall-off as much.
- From 30* to 80* the Signal would not change greatly.
- From 80* to 90* the Signal would dramatically fall to the Null.

This Is Why I Say: The Justice AM Antenna (JAMA) is a Good Signal
Magnet for weak AM/MW Signal Locations.


iane ~ RHF
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