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On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:43:14 -0800 (PST), Lardass Lloyd Davies wrote: > On Nov 18, 6:35 am, "N0VFP" <wo...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> "Lt. Col. Azz J. McPizz" <penac...@yomomma.hot.invalid> wrote in messagenews:Xns9C87A9DF0B9CDpenachewyomommahot@127.0.0.1...> testing?
>>> -- >>> Azz Pizz Institute >>> The OFFICIAL Verbal Diarrhea Think Tank (tm) >>> Washington, DC
>> indeed i wish i wus woger who could pass the General ham exam
> La-la-la-la-la-lardass Lloyd
I didn't say that! And I am a General BTW. 11 years now (2 more when counting my Tech Plus)
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In article <28425f3b-f56a-4499-b2d5-12dd4a8d5...@p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, Happy Hammington <happy.hamming...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 19, 8:24�pm, under...@news.vrx.net (Mad as a Box of Frogs) >wrote: >> In article <360bfda3-df86-48b0-9dd0-09c3f0241...@33g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>, >> Ed Morganberg �<up.army...@gmail.com> wrote:
dancing morkiequeen wrote: > On Nov 19, 2:20 pm, Punce DeMarkie <punce.demar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Nov 18, 7:02 pm, Tood Karolstein <tood.karolst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Nov 18, 11:06 am, radioguy <radioguy...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> and speaking of legality and FCC rules, why do local cops have the >>>> authority to fine and arrest you and confiscate your legal radio >>>> equipment even though you're operating completely legally under >>>> Federal law just because you don't have any radio license to show >>>> them? >>>> I always thought you didn't have to show them your radio license >>>> since the FCC doesn't require you to carrty it. >>>> However, I have recently been informed that not only can the cop fine, >>>> arrest you and confiscate you but that he has the DUTY to do so ansd >>>> so NUST do so. >>>> So if you're a ham who gets stopped in Officer Bubba's county and >>>> Officer Bubba tears up your ham radio license because "ham radio is >>>> illegal in this county" and then y ou get stopped later in Officer >>>> Billy Bobn's county and don't have your lradio icense because Officer >>>> Bubba tore it up or you're a GMRS user who can't prove to either >>>> Officer Bubba or Officer Billy Bob that you're operating legallyu >>>> under Feederal law because you don't have a license since it's another >>>> member of your fimmediate family already thirty miles further down the >>>> road who has the radio license you're covered under, you're screwed. >>>> And filing a lawsuit just gets you another charge of interfering in >>>> the legal duty of a police officer. >>>> And even filing a lawsuit doesn't get you off the hook since one >>>> county doesn't have authority over another county. And you can't >>>> afford any appeal to the state courts or even the local court costs. >>>> So how do GMRS users travelling in a caravan using mobile GMRS radios >>>> so they can communicate further through repeaters or even further >>>> simplex (external antennas allowed) than they can through cheap little >>>> bubble pack radios (no external antenna allowed) prove to a cop >>>> they're operating legally under federal law when the cop redused to >>>> believe it unless you show and give him your radio license to look at >>>> when you don't have anything to give him in the first place since >>>> you're covered under your relative's license who has one and has just >>>> gotten out of range of your being able to call him on the radio >>>> because the cop stopped you? >>>> Or else you would have still been within radio range of each other. >>> You're as crazy as KB9RQZ- - >> I am the puppet master. See me pull the strings.- Hide quoted text -
Amateur Radio Newsline(tm) Report 1684 - November 20 2009
The following is a closed circuit advisory and is not necessarily for air. Ladies and gentlemen Here's Amateur Radio Newsline's Support Fund Administrator Andy Jarema, N6TCQ.
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Thank you Andy. Now, Amateur Radio Newsline report number 1684 with a release date of Friday, November 20th, 2009 to follow in 5-4-3-2-1.
The following is a Q-S-T. The FCC's new chairman testifies before congress on distracted driving. Is congress looking at some sort of nationwide ban? Also, BPL to disappear in Manassas Virginia, 60 meters comes to Trinadad and Tobago, a ham in India waits 13 years to get his license and radio controlled robots to hold their own Olympic like games. Find out the details on Amateur Radio Newsline(tm) report number 1684 coming your way right now.
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RADIO LAW: FCC CHAIRMAN TESTIFIES ON DISTRACTED DRIVING
Distracting driving has become a major issue in congress and could eventually impact on all communications to and from vehicles including ham and CB radio. Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF, is in our newsroom with more.
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The hot button issue of distracted driving was the reason that FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski was recently summoned to Capitol Hill to testify before the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation. This to explain where the agency he heads up could fit in if the nations legislative body eventually takes action to curb the rising tide of accidents and deaths being blamed on driving distractions such as talking on cellphones and texting while in motion.
While his October 28th testimony before the subcommittee hearing on Combating Distracted Driving never mentioned ham radio, CB or any other type of vehicular two way system, he did agree with that distracted driving endangers life and property and the current levels of injury and loss are unacceptable. He called an urgent problem that simply must be addressed.
But Genachowski said that he does not believe there is a single solution to this challenge. He said that the responsibility lies with individuals and companies in the wireless space as well as government.
He stated his belief that all individuals should take personal responsibility. Adults should drive responsibly, and families and friends should encourage each other and help each other drive responsibly. He believes that drivers of all ages should refrain from text messaging while driving. He goes so far as to say that the nation should develop a cultural norm that driving while texting is totally unacceptable.
Genachowski said that the FCC also has a role to play by helping to educate the public and supporting innovative problem-solving. He said that education is vital to any comprehensive plan addressing distracted driving.
Most important to those who operate two-way radio from their vehicles was Genachowski statement that mobile communications can be a life-saver by improving emergency response by, for example, providing stranded motorists with immediate means to reach help and by giving first responders instant access to 21st century communications networks.
Genachowski also noted that government at all levels has a role to play in ending the distracted driving problem. On the Federal level he applaud the Department of Transportation for leading an impressive, coordinated effort to increase public awareness of the dangers of distracted driving. He also said that because the FCC licenses and regulates mobile services and approves devices for use in the consumer marketplace, the agency can potentially play a useful role in enabling technology and encouraging the development of marketplace solutions.
Obviously there is a lot more to come as Federal legislators mull over the distracted driving issue. It also means that hams and other mobile two-way radio users will need to keep an eye on Congress in the coming months.
For the Amateur Radio Newsline Im Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF, in los Angeles.
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The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration reported in 2008 that driver distraction in general is the cause of 16% of all fatal crashes and 21% of crashes resulting in an injury. And according to AAA, nearly 50% of teens admit to texting while driving even though laws in some states forbid it. More is on-line at http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-294326A1.txt (FCC, published reports)
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RADIO RULES: FCC HOLDING WORKSHOP ON DISTRACTED DRIVERS
In a related development, word that the FCC is holding a holding a staff workshop on distracted driving as this newscast goes to air.
The November 20th workshop comes as the result of Chairman Julius Genachowski recent pledge to Congress that the FCC would gather data on exactly what drivers do in their vehicles. Also. To explore technology innovations and applications that may eliminate or significantly reduce the problem of distracted driving.
The commission would then be tasked with developing ways to educate the public about such dangerous behavior. The one thing that you will not see come out of this meeting is proposed rules to ban any mobile electronics that could distract drivers. Such regulation is outside of the preview of the Commission and would require congressional legislation
The workshop was to have been held at FCC's Washington headquarters and is open to the public. Its unknown if non-cellular mobile two way radio was on the agenda. (FCC)
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THE BPL WAR: MANASSAS VA TO PULL THE PLUG ON BPL
The Manassas City Council is saying goodbye to BPL. Inside Northern Virginia reports that the council is in the process of deciding whether to abandon its broadband over power line project now, or to let it die at the end of the city's fiscal year.
BPL was Manassas' attempt to bring the Internet into the homes of every resident by providing low-cost broadband service. Subscribers were told that they could access the Internet through the regular electrical outlets, but for a number of reasons it never caught on with the public. First, the connection proved to be slower than cable or DSL. It was expensive to maintain and caused massive reception interference to those using the spectrum it shared. This included the Manassas ham radio community which was highly vocal in its opposition.
The end result was that the project only garnered about 670 subscribers while costing the city hundreds of thousands of dollars in ongoing maintenance. It also faced a strong challenge from Comcast cable which claims the potential to serve the entire city and Verizon which has rapidly been expanding its FIOS service in the Manassas area. And now like a bad dream it will shortly be fading away. (InsideNoVa.com)
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RESTRUCTURING: 60 METER OPERATION IN TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
Trinidad and Tobago may by now be permitting Amateur Radio operation in a 200 kHz segment of the 60 meter band. In a posting to the Digital Radio Yahoo group Julian Dedier, 9Z4FZ, notes that his license permits operation from 5.250 to 5.450 MHz with 1.5 kilowatt maximum power output. While amateur radio operation in this band would be a welcome development although as yet no reference to the allocation could be found in the frequency allocation table issued by the Telecommunications Authority of Trinidad and Tobago. (Southgate)
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RESTRUCTURING: INDIA EXPECTED TO EXPAND 40 METER HAM BAND
Hams in India will soon have access to the spectrum from 7 point 0 to 7 point 1 MHz. This according to an e-mail being circulated by VU2JOS that says positive information coming from the official sources indicate that Indian amateur radio operators are being allocated an additional spectrum of 100 KHz on the 40 meter band.
According to the VU2JOS note, this is in line with the recommendations at WRC-2007. Since then shortwave broadcasters in India have shifted their transmitting frequencies beyond 7 point 2 KHz. In fact, in the region only 7 dot 190 MHz is still in use by the Srilanka Broadcasting Corporation.
VU2JOS says that an official notification of the 40 meter expansion is likely to be released soon. He also says that this is not the first time that hams in his nation have had access to this spectrum, He notes that Indian amateur radio operators were allowed to operate between 7 to 7 point 1 MHz, with the allowance of additional spectrum. (VU2MYH)
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RADIO DEDICATION: VU2DWA- 13 YEARS FROM EXAM TO LICENSE
And here's the story an amateur radio applicant in India has received his license. What makes this
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> In article <360bfda3-df86-48b0-9dd0-09c3f0241...@33g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>, > Ed Morganberg <up.army...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 19, 4:29 pm, under...@news.vrx.net (Mad as a Box of Frogs) > >wrote: > >> In article <n4q9g5hbehok8dv8vgut93kqvea8m34...@4ax.com>, > >> Fred Hall <fkh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:31:49 +0000 (UTC), under...@news.vrx.net (Mad > >> >as a Box of Frogs) wrote:
> >> >>nadless
> >> >You make my point for me
> >> Hold that thought Fwed.... I'm just trying to catch a few
> >> zzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
> >I wonder if Marky is going to report them to CPS like he did to some > >innocent hams? > >http://www.ve7kfm.com
> Ed. you have my full attention. Between fwed and spooge i couldn't > squeeze out enough vinegar to finish my fries.
> IOW, you can't toss me into a blockbuster screed as lengthy as that url > without elucidating.
> WTF does ham radio, Walt Cronkite, dead real estate babes and some wackjob > failed lawyer/al Qaida guy have to do with spooge and fwed?
>On Nov 18, 7:29�pm, Lamey <la...@nomail.invalid> wrote: >> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:15:13 +0000 (UTC), under...@news.vrx.net (Mad >> as a Box of Frogs) wrote:
>> >In article <te59g55tlmkj898i2igdjem6jelniki...@4ax.com>, >> >Lamey �<la...@nomail.invalid> wrote: >> >>On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:37:22 +0000 (UTC), under...@news.vrx.net (Mad >> >>as a Box of Frogs) wrote:
>> >>>In article <v629g55lv3p0ep57rjtilkdajsipe23...@4ax.com>, >> >>>Lamey �<la...@nomail.invalid> wrote: >> >>>>On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:00:35 +0000 (UTC), under...@news.vrx.net (Mad >> >>>>as a Box of Frogs) wrote: >> >>>>>You're behaving nicely Tony - I'm happy to have played a part in that.
>> >>>>Hello obsesso, I'm doing what I have always done.
>> >>>What you always done is lie and forge news.
>> >>Proof? Nope
>> >>>Now that you;ve been "outed" as you call it - by consensus - let's forgo >> >>>all the bullshit about you not wanting to give it up as per personal info.
>> >>huh?
>> >>>Since that is now global, I see no reason that you can't proceed with >> >>>proof that you "served in Viet NAM" to vindicate yourself from being a >> >>>consistent liar.
>> >>Only you seem to care Tommy. And only me is who you ever talk to. Why >> >>is that Tommy?
>> >>Oh yea, obsessed.
>> >>>We'll be watching for your typical back peddling and a monstrous pile of >> >>>excuses to that end.
>> >>I don't have to prove shit to you. You're the "net sleuth" �<snicker>
>> >>Remember you said you had all kinds of info on me? Let's see it.
>> >>Oh yea, yer a liar.
>> >snicker indeed �SPNAK!!!!
>> No wonder canada pusses out in the wars. if this is considered a >> victory...LOL-
>canada is a country full of girley-men, kind of like KB9RQZ
Holeeee shit. Grab the big net boys - I don't think my 20 pound test can land this fella. All of a sudden,[it seems] some majorness koOkery is upon us.
/Lamey yer small pitataz, gwon back to beatin' people and have a drink on me.
-- Master of Puppets Be proud of what's in your trousers DENSA Life Achievement ø Am I the only one with half a brain?
>On Nov 19, 4:29�pm, under...@news.vrx.net (Mad as a Box of Frogs) >wrote: >> In article <n4q9g5hbehok8dv8vgut93kqvea8m34...@4ax.com>, >> Fred Hall �<fkh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:31:49 +0000 (UTC), under...@news.vrx.net (Mad >> >as a Box of Frogs) wrote:
>> >>nadless
>> >You make my point for me
>> Hold that thought Fwed.... I'm just trying to catch a few
>> zzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>I wonder if Marky is going to report them to CPS like he did to some >innocent hams? >http://www.ve7kfm.com
Ed. you have my full attention. Between fwed and spooge i couldn't squeeze out enough vinegar to finish my fries.
IOW, you can't toss me into a blockbuster screed as lengthy as that url without elucidating.
WTF does ham radio, Walt Cronkite, dead real estate babes and some wackjob failed lawyer/al Qaida guy have to do with spooge and fwed?
And whois Marky?
-- Master of Puppets Be proud of what's in your trousers DENSA Life Achievement ø Am I the only one with half a brain?
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:42:29 -0500, kb9...@yahoooo.com wrote: >On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 09:36:47 -0800, John Smith ><assemblywiz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>K4YZ wrote: >>> Nope.
>>> The IP Address and servers are complete proof that I do NOT share >>> any annonymous character's "address".
>>> Sounds like Lennie, to me....
>>> Steve, K4YZ
>>To anyone with even an elementary understanding of anonymous proxies, >>anonymous remailers, zombie backdoors, etc., the ability to change ones >>IP address and header details is simplistic, indeed, with little time >>spent anyone can appear to be "coming" from anywhere in the world.
>>You waste my time. Worse, you think us all idiots here. You remind me >>of the "street smart" prosecutors and defense attorneys who stack jurys >>with members of little or no technical knowledge and then call in >>"expert witnesses" and propose arguments of technical details to boggle >>their minds.
>>You have only proven that you, yourself are either ignorant to such >>technical details, or else you are indeed street smart, I favor the >>latter in this case (however, if you in the dark about such things, 15 >>minutes on google will enlighten you.)
>>JS
>"one useless man is disgrace 2 become a law firm 3 or more become a congress" >adams
>altopia is never used by KB9RQZ >http://kb9rqz.cc.cc >http://kd8ctl.com >nor is Konst...@hotmail.com ever >btw i can be found at >17366 N River Rd >Chassel Mi
>but the cowards asking lack the gut to act
"one useless man is disgrace 2 become a law firm 3 or more become a congress" adams
>> The IP Address and servers are complete proof that I do NOT share >> any annonymous character's "address".
>> Sounds like Lennie, to me....
>> Steve, K4YZ
>To anyone with even an elementary understanding of anonymous proxies, >anonymous remailers, zombie backdoors, etc., the ability to change ones >IP address and header details is simplistic, indeed, with little time >spent anyone can appear to be "coming" from anywhere in the world.
>You waste my time. Worse, you think us all idiots here. You remind me >of the "street smart" prosecutors and defense attorneys who stack jurys >with members of little or no technical knowledge and then call in >"expert witnesses" and propose arguments of technical details to boggle >their minds.
>You have only proven that you, yourself are either ignorant to such >technical details, or else you are indeed street smart, I favor the >latter in this case (however, if you in the dark about such things, 15 >minutes on google will enlighten you.)
>JS
"one useless man is disgrace 2 become a law firm 3 or more become a congress" adams
> >> The IP Address and servers are complete proof that I do NOT share > >> any annonymous character's "address".
> >> Sounds like Lennie, to me....
> >> Steve, K4YZ
> >To anyone with even an elementary understanding of anonymous proxies, > >anonymous remailers, zombie backdoors, etc., the ability to change ones > >IP address and header details is simplistic, indeed, with little time > >spent anyone can appear to be "coming" from anywhere in the world.
> >You waste my time. Worse, you think us all idiots here. You remind me > >of the "street smart" prosecutors and defense attorneys who stack jurys > >with members of little or no technical knowledge and then call in > >"expert witnesses" and propose arguments of technical details to boggle > >their minds.
> >You have only proven that you, yourself are either ignorant to such > >technical details, or else you are indeed street smart, I favor the > >latter in this case (however, if you in the dark about such things, 15 > >minutes on google will enlighten you.)
> >JS
> "one useless man is disgrace 2 become a law firm 3 or more become a congress" > adams
> altopia is never used by KB9RQZhttp://kb9rqz.cc.cchttp://kd8ctl.com > nor is Konst...@hotmail.com ever > btw i can be found at > 17366 N River Rd > Chassel Mi
> but the cowards asking lack the gut to act- Hide quoted text -
>> > > >> >On Nov 17, 7:13?pm, Albatr?ss <Albatr...@cfl.rr.com> wrote: >> > > >> >> On Nov 17, 7:04?pm, Shorty <emmettgulle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> >> > On Nov 17, 6:05?pm, Albatr?ss <Albatr...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>> > > >> >> > > On Nov 17, 5:20?pm, Shorty <emmettgulle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> >> > > eMuT I forgot to mention that you might want to tell whom ever owns >> > > >> >> > > the RR account that you are using (rrcs-71.42.3.2.se.biz.rr.com ) that >> > > >> >> > > you seem to have a problem with getting accounts terminated with them >> > > >> >> > > by running your mouth. Especially since it is a business account. Hmmm >> > > >> >> > > I wonder if you are using the computer @ ?Pete's Pasta & Pizza here in >> > > >> >> > > Palm Bay.
>> > > >> >> > Just called pete's. NO they don't have a computer nor do they have >> > > >> >> > WiFi.
>> > > >> >> You shouldn't have had to call them emma, you said on your facebook >> > > >> >> that you worked there. But I guess you have forgotten again that I am >> > > >> >> on your friends list.
>> > > >> >Hmm.......... you on my friends list? Now that's a complete turn >> > > >> >around from when you said you didn't want me to know who you are. now >> > > >> >i'll have to go through every friend i've got until i find out who the >> > > >> >hell you are.
>> > > >> LOL see if you can find out which one of your FB 'friends' I am while >> > > >> you're at it.
>> > > >> Gawd are you stupid.
>> > > >> .....heh
>> > > >it's easy to find out who you are. But, i am not going to tell you.
>> > > Wow another one of those famous eMuT quotes. I think you have said >> > > that over 100 times in the last 10 years. I guess you can't teach an >> > > old midget fucktard new tricks
>> > why don't you unblock me from getting those videos? i have 3 already >> > and i want the last 2. you had no right to block me in the first >> > place. if you don't unblock me, i will post a complaint to you tube >> > and get your account deleted.
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>Dance marky!, DANCE!
"one useless man is disgrace 2 become a law firm 3 or more become a congress" adams
> On Nov 18, 3:37 pm, kb9rqz <m...@kb9rqz.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 18, 1:19 am, William Bosetehv <kj8qth.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Nov 17, 11:31 pm, kb9rqz <m...@kb9rqz.com> wrote:
> > > > On Nov 17, 9:02 pm, Ed HoGavDidJackMe <ed.hogavdidjac...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote:
> > > > again you need to be a man and leave my wife and my father in law out > > > > of your crap
> > > you need to be a man and cease posting about your "wife" and father-in- > > > law on blogs,newsgroups, and message boards. you should also discuss > > > your constant anti social behavior with your mental health workers. i > > > doubt they fully understand the scope of your actions. you did calm > > > down some after your latest hospital stay. are you off your meds?
> On Nov 18, 8:40 pm, kb9rqz <m...@kb9rqz.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 18, 12:06 pm, radioguy <radioguy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > and speaking of legality and FCC rules, why do local cops have the > > > authority to fine and arrest you and confiscate your legal radio > > > equipment even though you're operating completely legally under > > > Federal law just because you don't have any radio license to show > > > them?
> > > I always thought you didn't have to show them your radio license > > > since the FCC doesn't require you to carrty it.
> > > However, I have recently been informed that not only can the cop fine, > > > arrest you and confiscate you but that he has the DUTY to do so ansd > > > so NUST do so.
> > > So if you're a ham who gets stopped in Officer Bubba's county and > > > Officer Bubba tears up your ham radio license because "ham radio is > > > illegal in this county" and then y ou get stopped later in Officer > > > Billy Bobn's county and don't have your lradio icense because Officer > > > Bubba tore it up or you're a GMRS user who can't prove to either > > > Officer Bubba or Officer Billy Bob that you're operating legallyu > > > under Feederal law because you don't have a license since it's another > > > member of your fimmediate family already thirty miles further down the > > > road who has the radio license you're covered under, you're screwed.
> > > And filing a lawsuit just gets you another charge of interfering in > > > the legal duty of a police officer.
> > > And even filing a lawsuit doesn't get you off the hook since one > > > county doesn't have authority over another county. And you can't > > > afford any appeal to the state courts or even the local court costs.
> > > So how do GMRS users travelling in a caravan using mobile GMRS radios > > > so they can communicate further through repeaters or even further > > > simplex (external antennas allowed) than they can through cheap little > > > bubble pack radios (no external antenna allowed) prove to a cop > > > they're operating legally under federal law when the cop redused to > > > believe it unless you show and give him your radio license to look at > > > when you don't have anything to give him in the first place since > > > you're covered under your relative's license who has one and has just > > > gotten out of range of your being able to call him on the radio > > > because the cop stopped you?
> > > Or else you would have still been within radio range of each other.- Hide quoted text -