SMS?
Cecil Moore
on TV is sending SMS instead of SOS?
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73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, http://www.w5dxp.com
Bert Hyman
wrote:
> Has anyone else noticed that the Prudential commercial
> on TV is sending SMS instead of SOS?
No, but I understand that some cellphones use "SMS" in morse to signal
an incoming text message (Short Message Service); maybe that's what
you're hearing.
I guess I've never seen that commercial, so I don't know if that makes
any sense in its context.
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Jeff Liebermann
wrote:
>Has anyone else noticed that the Prudential commercial
>on TV is sending SMS instead of SOS?
Which commercial? There's quite a collection of Prudential TV
commercials on YouTube, but I can't tell which one.
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Dave Platt
Cecil Moore <nos...@w5dxp.com> wrote:
>Has anyone else noticed that the Prudential commercial
>on TV is sending SMS instead of SOS?
I recall that decades ago, there was an FCC prohibition against the
inclusion of the SOS pro-signal in commercial radio and television
broadcasts. You weren't supposed to ever transmit this signal unless
you were actually in distress.
TV shows would either just *refer* to their being an SOS in progress,
or would transit some other Morse code signal as a substitute, or
both. I remember one Star Trek episode in which the substitute signal
was actually a very-low-speed FSK signal (high and low tones, about an
octave apart).
I don't know whether the legal prohibition against transmitting SOS on
commercial radio/TV still exists today, or whether it was dropped
during the big deregulation.
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Geoffrey S. Mendelson
> I don't know whether the legal prohibition against transmitting SOS on
> commercial radio/TV still exists today, or whether it was dropped
> during the big deregulation.
Yes, it was dropped a long time ago.
To answer another posting at the same time, the brand of cell phones is Nokia.
The default SMS alert is the morse code SMS.
BTW, it was never SOS as three seperate letters, the official distress call
___
was SOS (written with a line over it) the three letters run together such as
we do for SK.
It was in marine use preceded with a long dash (I'm not a marine operator
so I don't know how long) to trigger automated monitoring equipment,
but that was a relatively modern invention. (1950's??)
That way words like Sosnow (the name of my high school auto shop teacher)
would not cause a problem.
Geoff.
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Cecil Moore
> Cecil Moore <nos...@w5dxp.com> wrote:
>> Has anyone else noticed that the Prudential commercial
>> on TV is sending SMS instead of SOS?
>
> any sense in its context.
On the screen is a dot-dot-dot, dash-dash-dash, dot-dot-dot.
But the sound is di-di-dit, dah-dah, di-di-dit.
Cecil Moore
> Cecil Moore <nos...@w5dxp.com> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone else noticed that the Prudential commercial
>> on TV is sending SMS instead of SOS?
>
> Which commercial? There's quite a collection of Prudential TV
> commercials on YouTube, but I can't tell which one.
http://www.smartbrief.com/news/aaaa/industryBW-detail.jsp?id=592E982E-169D-47E3-9D42-6B6C4495A79A
Cecil Moore
> Which commercial? There's quite a collection of Prudential TV
> commercials on YouTube, but I can't tell which one.
Referenced on the commercial:
Mike Kaliski
"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <g...@mendelson.com> wrote in message
news:slrnhf4lr...@cable.mendelson.com...
Geoff,
A series of twelve four-second dashes, spaced one second apart, was sent by
an automatic keyer on 500 kHz. Any automatic distress receiver in the
vicinity would be triggered to operate an alarm after picking up four
dashes. The extra dashes were to overcome atmospheric noise and increase the
chance of the signals being picked up. Four consecutive dashes meant that
the automatic alarm wasn't triggered too often in the tropics.
The Radio Officer would be woken in his cabin by a bell and had 2 minutes to
get to the radio room and switch the main receiver on to receive the
distress message. Sometimes the alarm would go off half a dozen times in a
night during storms around the European coast in winter. Didn't get a lot of
sleep for several days sometimes.
Regards
Mike G0ULI
tom
> Bert Hyman wrote:
>> Cecil Moore <nos...@w5dxp.com> wrote:
>>> Has anyone else noticed that the Prudential commercial
>>> on TV is sending SMS instead of SOS?
>>
>> I guess I've never seen that commercial, so I don't know if that makes
>> any sense in its context.
>
> On the screen is a dot-dot-dot, dash-dash-dash, dot-dot-dot.
>
> But the sound is di-di-dit, dah-dah, di-di-dit.
Saw it tonight for the first time and it is as you say.
tom
K0TAR
Wayne
"Cecil Moore" <nos...@w5dxp.com> wrote in message
news:9%oIm.590$Wd1...@newsfe15.iad...
Yep. But it is so poorly sent that is seems like "VTTS" to me.
--Wayne
W5GIE
Registered User
wrote:
I've been coping VMS.
>--Wayne
>W5GIE
>
JoeH
tom;692686 Wrote:
>
>
> On the screen is a dot-dot-dot, dash-dash-dash, dot-dot-dot.
>
>
>
I read it as "VTTS"
Joe
W2HFD
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Cecil Moore
> I read it as "VTTS"
Can't be - there are only two dahs.
Wayne
I copy "VTTS" also.
--Wayne
Cecil Moore
> I copy "VTTS" also.
There must be more than one version of that
commercial. On the one I viewed, there were
Ian Jackson
<mygarb...@verizon.net> writes
In the UK, the only 'SMS' morse I've ever heard is 'SMS' with no breaks
(di-di-di-dah-dah-di-di-dit). Why would it be otherwise?
--
Ian
Cecil Moore
> In the UK, the only 'SMS' morse I've ever heard is 'SMS' with no breaks
> (di-di-di-dah-dah-di-di-dit). Why would it be otherwise?
It appears that, for that Prudential commercial, the
spacing between the dahs is longer than the spacing
between the dits.
Wayne
In whatever case ....on CBS "Sunday Morning" today, I heard the commercial
with the corrected morse. It now says "S O S", with word spacing
between the characters. Wonder if they got "helpful feedback" from the ham
community. :)
--Wayne
Jack in Brighton
'Cecil Moore[_2_ Wrote:
> ;692592']Has anyone else noticed that the Prudential commercial
Yes, and I was watching the talking heads this morning when the
Prudential commercial came on with the *_corrected_* SOS audio.
I started laughing when I saw/heard the correction and said to my wife
"I wonder if anyone else notices the error, and now the correction?"
I did a google search which led me here. LOL
--
Jack in Brighton
Cecil Moore
> In whatever case ....on CBS "Sunday Morning" today, I heard the commercial
> with the corrected morse. It now says "S O S", with word spacing
> between the characters. Wonder if they got "helpful feedback" from the ham
> community. :)
I received an email from a ham saying that he had
contacted Prudential and they had promised to correct
the Morse code S O S sounds. Is the following true?
___
SOS is usually sent as a prosign, i.e. a single dit
between tones?
Wayne
I have never heard that is was sent as a prosign, but IMHO it would sound
weird.
--Wayne
David Ryeburn
"Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Cecil Moore" <nos...@w5dxp.com> wrote in message
... snip
> > SOS is usually sent as a prosign, i.e. a single dit
> > between tones?
> > --
> > 73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, http://www.w5dxp.com
> -
> I have never heard that is was sent as a prosign, but IMHO it would sound
> weird.
> --Wayne
Back in 1949-1950 when I got my first ticket as W8EZE and became the trustee
for the Walnut Hills High School amateur radio club in Cincinnati, the club
had one of those World War Two devices to be used in lifeboats, with a crank
on top, which you held between your legs while turning the crank. It had an
antenna terminal to which we attached a dummy load. It had no other controls
or terminals, just the crank and an antenna terminal. I think it only put
out a few watts. Listening on 500 kc/s (as we called them, in those days)
on I think a BC348 receiver, while turning the crank one heard
. . . _ _ _ . . . (long space) . . . _ _ _ . . . (long space), and on and
on, as if you were sending one character with nine components, over and over
again. You could write it as
___
SOS
the same way one can write
__
BT
for a double dash, or
__
DN
for a fraction bar (forward slash).
David, ex-W8EZE, who can still picture and and remember hearing the thing --
it was orange
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David Ryeburn <rye...@sfu.caz> wrote:
It was called a "Gibson Girl"
Bert Hyman
wrote:
> Has anyone else noticed that the Prudential commercial
> on TV is sending SMS instead of SOS?
Finally saw a commercial that's probably the one you're talking about.
It sounded more like "VMS" to me, but based strictly on the dots and
dashes, ignoring the timing, it was "SOS."
billm
'Cecil Moore[_2_ Wrote:
> ;692592']Has anyone else noticed that the Prudential commercial
> on TV is sending SMS instead of SOS?
> 73, Cecil, IEEE, OOTC, http://www.w5dxp.com
If you listen carefully, I think they are sending VMS. You could make
the case that it's a really bad "fist" trying to send SOS.
--
billm
Wayne
"Bert Hyman" <be...@iphouse.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9CC59B63563...@216.250.184.7...
After hearing the "corrected" version of the commercial where "S O S" was
definitely sent.....I again heard the "original" version on a different
channel. So, they have two versions now. BTW, I still copy "VTTS".
--Wayne
W5GIE
Michael Coslo
You guys beat this one to death surely!
How about a new one? Analysis of the MASH episode where the 4077th
performs a bris by Morse code.
- 73 de Mike N3LI -
John Ferrell
>After hearing the "corrected" version of the commercial where "S O S" was
>definitely sent.....I again heard the "original" version on a different
>channel. So, they have two versions now. BTW, I still copy "VTTS".
>--Wayne
>W5GIE
>
John Ferrell W8CCW
Mike, who else?
> It was called a "Gibson Girl"
Here's the link. http://wftw.nl/gibsongirl/gibsongirl.html
Very interesting
Mike
VE6HMG