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Tuuk
Jan 8, 2012, 9:15:25 AM1/8/12
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Hi
I have the Yaesu FT530 handheld two meter and 70cm with battery.
The unit is very sensitive. For example, when ever I hold the unit near some
devices such as my smart meter, all frequencies show receiving massive
amounts of fuzz. When I hold near my phone (Northern Telecom phone with many
lines and displays) it also shows full strength noise. Holding too close to
the TV also, but other areas away from these things nothing.
What is this unit receiving that would cause it to go useless? Is it
measuring radiation? IMF? RF? Gama? Alpha? Sigma? Cilium? Iodine? EMF? When
I put it near the granit rocks on my sauna heater it shows a small reading
of something, I heard there is radiation in rocks.
Any ideas what the interference is that I am picking up?
It is an older unit I know, are the newer ones this sensitive to area noise?
Any ideas what this is receiving from these devices or appliances that is
making me curious?
Thanks again hams for any advice,,,
73
I have the Yaesu FT530 handheld two meter and 70cm with battery.
The unit is very sensitive. For example, when ever I hold the unit near some
devices such as my smart meter, all frequencies show receiving massive
amounts of fuzz. When I hold near my phone (Northern Telecom phone with many
lines and displays) it also shows full strength noise. Holding too close to
the TV also, but other areas away from these things nothing.
What is this unit receiving that would cause it to go useless? Is it
measuring radiation? IMF? RF? Gama? Alpha? Sigma? Cilium? Iodine? EMF? When
I put it near the granit rocks on my sauna heater it shows a small reading
of something, I heard there is radiation in rocks.
Any ideas what the interference is that I am picking up?
It is an older unit I know, are the newer ones this sensitive to area noise?
Any ideas what this is receiving from these devices or appliances that is
making me curious?
Thanks again hams for any advice,,,
73
NM5K
Jan 8, 2012, 10:43:10 AM1/8/12
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it seems to be rather open to out of band RF. Which is not too
unusual with the wide band receivers those radios have.
I bet you also get loads of intermod when in the middle of
large cities. :/
Tuuk
Jan 8, 2012, 11:08:27 AM1/8/12
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Hi
Thanks for the responding.
What RF would be causing that near my home's Smart Meter, that new meter
they installed on my home. Are they transmitting the information from that
meter? Wow, when I go near that the FT530 is useless. Should I tell the
electrical supplier to ground that thing or replace it or something? Seems
anything that goes near there is interferred with including mobile phone.
Another side question, do you know a online dealer who sells replacement
batteries for that? I would like the FNB 27 with NMHD. I did a search and
found some that were 40 or 50 dollars plus shipping. If someone knows a
trustworthy source that is economical please let me know the link, thanks
73
"NM5K" <no...@invalid.net> wrote in message
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Thanks for the responding.
What RF would be causing that near my home's Smart Meter, that new meter
they installed on my home. Are they transmitting the information from that
meter? Wow, when I go near that the FT530 is useless. Should I tell the
electrical supplier to ground that thing or replace it or something? Seems
anything that goes near there is interferred with including mobile phone.
Another side question, do you know a online dealer who sells replacement
batteries for that? I would like the FNB 27 with NMHD. I did a search and
found some that were 40 or 50 dollars plus shipping. If someone knows a
trustworthy source that is economical please let me know the link, thanks
73
"NM5K" <no...@invalid.net> wrote in message
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Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Jan 8, 2012, 11:34:04 AM1/8/12
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Tuuk wrote:
> Another side question, do you know a online dealer who sells replacement
> batteries for that? I would like the FNB 27 with NMHD. I did a search and
> found some that were 40 or 50 dollars plus shipping. If someone knows a
> trustworthy source that is economical please let me know the link, thanks
IMHO it's a moot point. Buy a battery pack that takes AA batteries. The best
> Another side question, do you know a online dealer who sells replacement
> batteries for that? I would like the FNB 27 with NMHD. I did a search and
> found some that were 40 or 50 dollars plus shipping. If someone knows a
> trustworthy source that is economical please let me know the link, thanks
ones being the slow self discharge NiMH batteries. Then you can charge
it in a charger designed for AA NiMH batteries, or use an external charger
that works with the battery but charges based on the proper way of
charging NIMH batteries.
Too many chargers of that era charge by dumping power into them until they
overheat and then shut off. The result is cooked batteries. NiMH batteries
always overheat when charged that way.
New (available at least 15 years ago), stop charging when the voltage out of
the cell dips, which indicates full charge. They can be purchased cheaply
in many places.
Geoff.
--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM
My high blood pressure medicine reduces my midichlorian count. :-(
Helmut Wabnig
Jan 8, 2012, 12:08:22 PM1/8/12
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On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 09:15:25 -0500, " Tuuk" <abr...@cadabraaaa.ca>
wrote:
The effects you describe are normal, nothing paranormal involved,
no Aliens, no brain control and no health danger.
Every radio does buzz and crackle
when brought into electromagnetic dirt.
w.
wrote:
no Aliens, no brain control and no health danger.
Every radio does buzz and crackle
when brought into electromagnetic dirt.
w.
Wayne
Jan 8, 2012, 1:53:58 PM1/8/12
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" Tuuk" wrote in message news:2cjOq.26885$d52....@newsfe22.iad...
>Hi
>Thanks for the responding.
>
>What RF would be causing that near my home's Smart Meter, that new meter
>they installed on my home. Are they transmitting the information from that
>meter? Wow, when I go near that the FT530 is useless. Should I tell the
>electrical supplier to ground that thing or replace it or something? Seems
>anything that goes near there is interferred with including mobile phone.
>
>Another side question, do you know a online dealer who sells replacement
>batteries for that? I would like the FNB 27 with NMHD. I did a search and
>found some that were 40 or 50 dollars plus shipping. If someone knows a
>trustworthy source that is economical please let me know the link, thanks
>
around that signal. The noise is supposed to be so weak that it doesn't
travel far to interfere with other devices. Your handheld is most likely
close enough to pick up that noise, and it is "in band" to the receiver.
Baron
Jan 8, 2012, 3:17:09 PM1/8/12
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Helmut Wabnig Inscribed thus:
FWIW I have a cell tower about 100ft away with an 'if' at 144.000Mhz and
can hear what are probably many conversations going on at once. The
cell operators couldn't care less that it makes the bottom of the band
unusable for me !
--
73s
Best Regards:
Baron.
can hear what are probably many conversations going on at once. The
cell operators couldn't care less that it makes the bottom of the band
unusable for me !
--
73s
Best Regards:
Baron.
Tuuk
Jan 8, 2012, 8:26:50 PM1/8/12
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Radio Frequency, a electro magnetic field from 3khz to 300ghz.
This RF is a specific freq? RF could just be a general statement, meaning
anything RF. So if your voice is about 10000 to 20,000 hz to which then dogs
pick up just higher,
RF ?? What a broad statement.
So what about the batteries? Anyone got success or bad luck with a online
dealer? I see them on ebay for about 40 bucks, shipped, seems about fair for
a 12v.
"Baron" <ba...@linuxmaniac.net> wrote in message
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This RF is a specific freq? RF could just be a general statement, meaning
anything RF. So if your voice is about 10000 to 20,000 hz to which then dogs
pick up just higher,
RF ?? What a broad statement.
So what about the batteries? Anyone got success or bad luck with a online
dealer? I see them on ebay for about 40 bucks, shipped, seems about fair for
a 12v.
"Baron" <ba...@linuxmaniac.net> wrote in message
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david
Jan 9, 2012, 12:56:57 AM1/9/12
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On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 20:26:50 -0500, Tuuk rearranged some electrons to
say:
> Radio Frequency, a electro magnetic field from 3khz to 300ghz.
>
> This RF is a specific freq? RF could just be a general statement,
> meaning anything RF. So if your voice is about 10000 to 20,000 hz to
> which then dogs pick up just higher,
>
> RF ?? What a broad statement.
How were you able to obtain an amateur radio license without knowing the
difference between acoustic energy and electromagnetic energy?
>
> So what about the batteries? Anyone got success or bad luck with a
> online dealer? I see them on ebay for about 40 bucks, shipped, seems
> about fair for a 12v.
Anyone who thinks he's picking up radiation from rocks on his HT probably
shouldn't be messing around with batteries, it might be a bit over your
head.
say:
> Radio Frequency, a electro magnetic field from 3khz to 300ghz.
>
> This RF is a specific freq? RF could just be a general statement,
> meaning anything RF. So if your voice is about 10000 to 20,000 hz to
> which then dogs pick up just higher,
>
> RF ?? What a broad statement.
difference between acoustic energy and electromagnetic energy?
>
> So what about the batteries? Anyone got success or bad luck with a
> online dealer? I see them on ebay for about 40 bucks, shipped, seems
> about fair for a 12v.
shouldn't be messing around with batteries, it might be a bit over your
head.
dave
Jan 9, 2012, 8:07:54 AM1/9/12
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be OK. If you get the battery from a Vertec industrial supplier it's
cheaper than from a ham radio supplier, so I'm told. Please let us know,
thanks.
dave
Jan 9, 2012, 8:10:22 AM1/9/12
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kd6il
Tuuk
Jan 9, 2012, 8:38:22 AM1/9/12
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Yes, Thanks for the info
Yes, rocks do emit radiation, especially if they come out of the deep
ground.
As a matter of fact, at our international boarders, when there is a truck
load shippment of granite countertops coming through, their x-ray machines
cannot scan those trucks because of that natural radiation coming from those
rocks so contrar to what you may believe, rocks do emit radiation.
The smart meters do emit a massive amout of RF now that I have learned and
it is a big problem in some states like California where groups are now
rising against it. Because of it.
While today we micro manage our health in so many ways, I like to refine
where I can. Yes, I know some old hams who worked next to 2kw linear amps
their whole life, nothing wrong with them, however I am curious to learn.
"dave" <da...@dave.dave> wrote in message
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Yes, rocks do emit radiation, especially if they come out of the deep
ground.
As a matter of fact, at our international boarders, when there is a truck
load shippment of granite countertops coming through, their x-ray machines
cannot scan those trucks because of that natural radiation coming from those
rocks so contrar to what you may believe, rocks do emit radiation.
The smart meters do emit a massive amout of RF now that I have learned and
it is a big problem in some states like California where groups are now
rising against it. Because of it.
While today we micro manage our health in so many ways, I like to refine
where I can. Yes, I know some old hams who worked next to 2kw linear amps
their whole life, nothing wrong with them, however I am curious to learn.
"dave" <da...@dave.dave> wrote in message
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Tuuk
Jan 9, 2012, 8:41:32 AM1/9/12
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Hi David
I wasn't really asking about acoustic energy, I was asking about RF energy,
frequency, radio frequency. Not sure where you came up with your assumption.
Of course I asked the question, which means I didn't know.
I hope you are not a teacher, I would be an angry taxpayer in your
community.
"david" <no...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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I wasn't really asking about acoustic energy, I was asking about RF energy,
frequency, radio frequency. Not sure where you came up with your assumption.
Of course I asked the question, which means I didn't know.
I hope you are not a teacher, I would be an angry taxpayer in your
community.
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david
Jan 11, 2012, 5:59:48 AM1/11/12
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On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 08:41:32 -0500, Tuuk rearranged some electrons to
say:
> Hi David
>
> I wasn't really asking about acoustic energy, I was asking about RF
> energy, frequency, radio frequency. Not sure where you came up with your
> assumption.
I got it from you:
>>> So if your voice is about 10000 to 20,000 hz to
>>> which then dogs pick up just higher,
Voice = acoustic.
>
> Of course I asked the question, which means I didn't know.
>
> I hope you are not a teacher, I would be an angry taxpayer in your
> community.
>
Perhaps you should go back to whoever taught you about RF and get your
money back then.
say:
> Hi David
>
> I wasn't really asking about acoustic energy, I was asking about RF
> energy, frequency, radio frequency. Not sure where you came up with your
> assumption.
>>> So if your voice is about 10000 to 20,000 hz to
>>> which then dogs pick up just higher,
>
> Of course I asked the question, which means I didn't know.
>
> I hope you are not a teacher, I would be an angry taxpayer in your
> community.
>
money back then.
Tuuk
Jan 11, 2012, 9:55:41 AM1/11/12
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David
Are you a licenced Ham Radio operator? I mean have you written the
examinations held by an accredited outfit worthy of providing you with a
certificate? I have. Enough said there because your childish mud flinging
means nothing.
I asked a question, means I wanted to learn somethings, and this group has a
lot of knowledge in it and is a wonderful resource. I guess my next question
is how to block out the trolls, the wanna bees.
I reiterate my statement, I hope you are not a teacher, very poor teaching
skills. I can almost predict with great certainty that you are not a
teacher. None of your advice or comments were constructive, or informatonal
or helpful. None.
I wouldn't even want you as an employee, with that negative do nothing, add
no value attitude, wow, I wouldn't even want to work beside you.
However, without knowing you I can estimate you have more knowledge about
electrons, protons, rayons and electronic circuitry than I do. I will give
you that David, however I can bet you dollar to donut that my list of
credentials is far longer than yours, so while I may be more versed in a
wider range of knowledge, yours is specific to your hobby. Or maybe a
profession for you, obviously you are completely knowledgable about
electronics. Completely. Not me, I have a base knowledge of electronics,
enough to keep me happy and do what I want to do with electronics like
building my own antennas and so forth, just the basics. I would need help to
repair a rig if it fried. Unless is was an older rig, then I could probably
repair, but I am sure you could repair even the latest advancements in our
technological world.
I haven't paid anyone to teach me about RF, so no need to "go back and get
my money back" so your insults at my teachers holds no water. Not sure why
you would even say such a thing.
I mean I asked a question about RF and you answered by saying "Perhaps you
That is why I said, "I hope you are not a teacher, I would be a upset
taxpayer in that community". Because if you are a teacher and the student
asks you a question, lol,,, o my,,,
Are you the ham who complained about me fixing my own furnace not long ago?
While I don't have a certificate there either however 10 years ago I
installed it myself, now I needing to replace or fix some parts, but you
said "Hire a qualified, certified technician". So I did, paid him to
diagnose the problem, he said it was the fan relay board, I bought a new
board from a friend, replaced it and exact problem remained. Turned out to
be the reset button on the high temperature limit switch control. I didn't
know there was a reset button and your qualified certified technician didn't
know it also.
Are you the same chap who said to me that rocks don't emit radiaton? Well in
fact they do, they do so much to a degree that it is a well known fact,
while I am not sure if it is gamma, alpha, etc etc or what, but I know they
do. Because you said " Anyone who thinks he's picking up radiation from
out of the ground do emit certain forms of radiation, I recommend you google
that. There you go David, you are not as smart as you set yourself out to
be.
Anyway, great group here, lots of knowledge of wide range of knowledge and I
will certainly ask future questions of this group, lots of knowledge here
and most appreciate all the help I have received, as I am simply interested
in learning, love learning, love learning new things and doing things
myself.
In the future David, if you see my post, asking a question that you have a
wealth of knowledge, instead of trying to make me look even dumber, or
trying to make you look even so much smarter than me, just ignore my post. I
suppose the proper thing to do is to add you to some kind of a filter on
this newsgroup, I suppose I could filter you out because I don't believe you
have added any value to any of my question, only critical of my level of
knowledge and critical of my teachers. So David, just ignore post made by me
if you don't mind. I have never filtered out people yet on here, I don't
filter out those smut slut advertisements, I just ignore them, I suppose I
could if I had to filter out both David and the Smut and Slut Advertisments,
but would rather you just ignore them. I suppose I could ignore your post
also David, your post have never, ever added any value that I have seen, so
I suppose I should just ignore them. I wont be trapped into any more of your
mud flinging games, I suppose it is just a bait and trap for you David. But
good luck with your wealth of knowledge, I hope you use it in a good way.
Thanks again all for your answering my questions, truly appreciate it.
73
news:jejq34$mln$1...@dont-email.me...
Are you a licenced Ham Radio operator? I mean have you written the
examinations held by an accredited outfit worthy of providing you with a
certificate? I have. Enough said there because your childish mud flinging
means nothing.
I asked a question, means I wanted to learn somethings, and this group has a
lot of knowledge in it and is a wonderful resource. I guess my next question
is how to block out the trolls, the wanna bees.
I reiterate my statement, I hope you are not a teacher, very poor teaching
skills. I can almost predict with great certainty that you are not a
teacher. None of your advice or comments were constructive, or informatonal
or helpful. None.
I wouldn't even want you as an employee, with that negative do nothing, add
no value attitude, wow, I wouldn't even want to work beside you.
However, without knowing you I can estimate you have more knowledge about
electrons, protons, rayons and electronic circuitry than I do. I will give
you that David, however I can bet you dollar to donut that my list of
credentials is far longer than yours, so while I may be more versed in a
wider range of knowledge, yours is specific to your hobby. Or maybe a
profession for you, obviously you are completely knowledgable about
electronics. Completely. Not me, I have a base knowledge of electronics,
enough to keep me happy and do what I want to do with electronics like
building my own antennas and so forth, just the basics. I would need help to
repair a rig if it fried. Unless is was an older rig, then I could probably
repair, but I am sure you could repair even the latest advancements in our
technological world.
I haven't paid anyone to teach me about RF, so no need to "go back and get
my money back" so your insults at my teachers holds no water. Not sure why
you would even say such a thing.
I mean I asked a question about RF and you answered by saying "Perhaps you
should go back to whoever taught you about RF and get your money back then".
See, I can parse you also.
That is why I said, "I hope you are not a teacher, I would be a upset
taxpayer in that community". Because if you are a teacher and the student
asks you a question, lol,,, o my,,,
Are you the ham who complained about me fixing my own furnace not long ago?
While I don't have a certificate there either however 10 years ago I
installed it myself, now I needing to replace or fix some parts, but you
said "Hire a qualified, certified technician". So I did, paid him to
diagnose the problem, he said it was the fan relay board, I bought a new
board from a friend, replaced it and exact problem remained. Turned out to
be the reset button on the high temperature limit switch control. I didn't
know there was a reset button and your qualified certified technician didn't
know it also.
Are you the same chap who said to me that rocks don't emit radiaton? Well in
fact they do, they do so much to a degree that it is a well known fact,
while I am not sure if it is gamma, alpha, etc etc or what, but I know they
do. Because you said " Anyone who thinks he's picking up radiation from
rocks on his HT
> probably shouldn't be messing around with batteries, it might be a bit
> over your head.""
That is what you said David, and you were wrong, because all rocks coming
> probably shouldn't be messing around with batteries, it might be a bit
> over your head.""
out of the ground do emit certain forms of radiation, I recommend you google
that. There you go David, you are not as smart as you set yourself out to
be.
Anyway, great group here, lots of knowledge of wide range of knowledge and I
will certainly ask future questions of this group, lots of knowledge here
and most appreciate all the help I have received, as I am simply interested
in learning, love learning, love learning new things and doing things
myself.
In the future David, if you see my post, asking a question that you have a
wealth of knowledge, instead of trying to make me look even dumber, or
trying to make you look even so much smarter than me, just ignore my post. I
suppose the proper thing to do is to add you to some kind of a filter on
this newsgroup, I suppose I could filter you out because I don't believe you
have added any value to any of my question, only critical of my level of
knowledge and critical of my teachers. So David, just ignore post made by me
if you don't mind. I have never filtered out people yet on here, I don't
filter out those smut slut advertisements, I just ignore them, I suppose I
could if I had to filter out both David and the Smut and Slut Advertisments,
but would rather you just ignore them. I suppose I could ignore your post
also David, your post have never, ever added any value that I have seen, so
I suppose I should just ignore them. I wont be trapped into any more of your
mud flinging games, I suppose it is just a bait and trap for you David. But
good luck with your wealth of knowledge, I hope you use it in a good way.
Thanks again all for your answering my questions, truly appreciate it.
73
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Jeff
Jan 11, 2012, 10:22:04 AM1/11/12
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Perhaps you should go back and re-read your initial post; it was totally
incoherent and laughable, and you now have the temerity to criticise
people who comment on that.
What are 'rayons' by the way; more modern nylons?
Jeff
Tuuk
Jan 11, 2012, 1:29:13 PM1/11/12
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Hi Jeff
Thanks for the flowers.
I guess you also are another add on to some kind of a kill file filter list.
I am going to have to learn about how to filter out what you don't want and
leave open what I do want.
Why would posters want to come back with negative mud flinging when someone
obviously hasn't the knowledge and so asks a question.
Did I say that properly Jeff? Did you understand it? Was it coherent or
laughable?
Just because some of you people have more knowledge in something than I, and
then when someone asks you a question about that topic, you feel the need to
enforce that fact that you do have more knowledge in that topic I asked
about. Then you rub it in, and grind the student (or one asking the
question). Just because it is so obvious to you, after your years learning
the topic in whatever school and you are well versed in the topic, wow, that
gives you the right to hammer down on someone who hasn't the level of
knowledge in that topic. You think because you are confident in a topic that
only an ignorant person would ask about that topic, so you must enforce that
fact that the person is ignorant in that topic.
Did I say that properly Jeff? Did you understand it? Was it coherent or
laughable? lol,,,
Wow, what happened to the Hams I know? I been around for a while and know
many many awsome hams, great people, and a lot of the most intelligent
people I know. I guess just like the education system, when you lower the
bar, this is what you get. The Jeffs, The Davids, the Einstiens who are
smarter than everyone. lol,,,
Did I say that properly Jeff? Did you understand it? Was it coherent or
laughable?
Come on Jeff, back to you,
Your first post there was pretty dramatic, pretty theatrical, but had
nothing, I repeat, nothing to do with my question. Why respond to my
question when your answer had nothing to do with the question?
Did I say that properly Jeff? Did you understand it? Was it coherent or
laughable?? lol,,, Come on Jeff,, you are just baiting me now, nobody can be
that ignorant. Nobody.
Anyway, I will learn how to use my filter on this News group,,, it seems
there are a few trouble makers within the masses. Please from now on, when I
ask a question, and I will, about something you are professor of world
knowledge on that topic, 1st in your class, top of the crop, world master in
the topic, please don't bash me because I am not knowledgable about that
topic. THAT IS WHY I ASKED!!!!
I hope you Jeff and David are not teachers, otherwise I would be an upset
taxpayer in your community.
Anyway, ya, I will just filter out the riff raff because when I ask a
question from this group, off topic or otherwise, I am thankful for all the
intellegent responses. Most thankful. I guess you get some bad with the
good. But don't criticize me because I don't have the same level of
knowledge as yourself on a certain topic, that is why I asked. And please
forgive all your students who don't have the same level of knowledge as
yourself (if you are a teacher). I hope you are not actually, but some
advice from a life time learner, don't bash your students just because they
came to you to learn, that is unprofessional.
And Jeff, you asked what a Rayon was, it is an improved version of certain
fibers, like a silk, or man made fiber. I am not sure if it is used for
nylons. Maybe.
Anyway, thanks for responding, thanks for coming out.
73
"Jeff" <je...@jsystems.com> wrote in message
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Thanks for the flowers.
I guess you also are another add on to some kind of a kill file filter list.
I am going to have to learn about how to filter out what you don't want and
leave open what I do want.
Why would posters want to come back with negative mud flinging when someone
obviously hasn't the knowledge and so asks a question.
Did I say that properly Jeff? Did you understand it? Was it coherent or
laughable?
Just because some of you people have more knowledge in something than I, and
then when someone asks you a question about that topic, you feel the need to
enforce that fact that you do have more knowledge in that topic I asked
about. Then you rub it in, and grind the student (or one asking the
question). Just because it is so obvious to you, after your years learning
the topic in whatever school and you are well versed in the topic, wow, that
gives you the right to hammer down on someone who hasn't the level of
knowledge in that topic. You think because you are confident in a topic that
only an ignorant person would ask about that topic, so you must enforce that
fact that the person is ignorant in that topic.
Did I say that properly Jeff? Did you understand it? Was it coherent or
laughable? lol,,,
Wow, what happened to the Hams I know? I been around for a while and know
many many awsome hams, great people, and a lot of the most intelligent
people I know. I guess just like the education system, when you lower the
bar, this is what you get. The Jeffs, The Davids, the Einstiens who are
smarter than everyone. lol,,,
Did I say that properly Jeff? Did you understand it? Was it coherent or
laughable?
Come on Jeff, back to you,
Your first post there was pretty dramatic, pretty theatrical, but had
nothing, I repeat, nothing to do with my question. Why respond to my
question when your answer had nothing to do with the question?
Did I say that properly Jeff? Did you understand it? Was it coherent or
laughable?? lol,,, Come on Jeff,, you are just baiting me now, nobody can be
that ignorant. Nobody.
Anyway, I will learn how to use my filter on this News group,,, it seems
there are a few trouble makers within the masses. Please from now on, when I
ask a question, and I will, about something you are professor of world
knowledge on that topic, 1st in your class, top of the crop, world master in
the topic, please don't bash me because I am not knowledgable about that
topic. THAT IS WHY I ASKED!!!!
I hope you Jeff and David are not teachers, otherwise I would be an upset
taxpayer in your community.
Anyway, ya, I will just filter out the riff raff because when I ask a
question from this group, off topic or otherwise, I am thankful for all the
intellegent responses. Most thankful. I guess you get some bad with the
good. But don't criticize me because I don't have the same level of
knowledge as yourself on a certain topic, that is why I asked. And please
forgive all your students who don't have the same level of knowledge as
yourself (if you are a teacher). I hope you are not actually, but some
advice from a life time learner, don't bash your students just because they
came to you to learn, that is unprofessional.
And Jeff, you asked what a Rayon was, it is an improved version of certain
fibers, like a silk, or man made fiber. I am not sure if it is used for
nylons. Maybe.
Anyway, thanks for responding, thanks for coming out.
73
"Jeff" <je...@jsystems.com> wrote in message
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George
Jan 11, 2012, 4:07:14 PM1/11/12
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:55:41 -0500, " Tuuk" <abr...@cadabraaaa.ca> wrote:
>Are you a licenced Ham Radio operator? I mean have you written the
>examinations held by an accredited outfit worthy of providing you with a
>certificate? I have.
Out if curiosity, what's your call? I must have missed it in your previous
>Are you a licenced Ham Radio operator? I mean have you written the
>examinations held by an accredited outfit worthy of providing you with a
>certificate? I have.
posts.
bigjohn
Jan 11, 2012, 5:07:40 PM1/11/12
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 16:07:14 -0500, George questioned:
He doesn't have one. He claims to be licensed, but it's obvious he isn't.
Just read what he writes above, and in his other posts. There is no way this
guy is licensed.
Just read what he writes above, and in his other posts. There is no way this
guy is licensed.
John S
Jan 11, 2012, 5:20:02 PM1/11/12
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John S
Jan 11, 2012, 5:23:56 PM1/11/12
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On 1/11/2012 4:07 PM, Big John wrote:
Tuuk
Jan 11, 2012, 6:58:45 PM1/11/12
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Are you kidding me?
Why would I ask about batteries for my FT530 ? Duh!!!!
I know, I know, I do use it for communication with my boat from land, I do
enjoy using it for marine band use also.
Why would I ask a question about clamping my satelite dish onto my self
supporting tower? I was curioius about gnding there as it isn't actually
yet.
Why would I ask a question about my Sauna after I built it? I mean only a
Ham would design, build their own sauna.
Why would I ask a question about my furnace? I mean only a Ham would
completely install their own high efficient furnace.
Why would I have been a long time lerker in this news group?
Are you sure you are a ham? I mean if you are simply a 2m appliance operator
simply always talking about their ailments, well that is my best guess. But
you know, I don't actually believe you are a licennsed ham. Maybe a novice,
or beginner, or CBer. Ya, I think you are a CBer. Seems your style.
To the chap who said about me "He doesn't have one, he claims to be
licensed, but it's obvious he isn't. There is NO WAY this guy is licensed"
To this chap, would you care to put your money where your mouth is?
Be a man, or I bet you are one of those CBers who hangs around on Channel 19
badmouthing the truckers.
So, do you care to or not?
Nuff said., I didn't think you would, but I am willing to put up say,,,, 1g
,,,,
hmmmmm , I didn't think so,,,,,
anyway, you guys are just baiting me, you are poking sticks at me and hiding
in the comfort behind your microphone,,, typical CBer tactic. Na,,, not my
style.
What did they call you guys on the CB again,,, I forget,,, were you CB
Heros?
Jeff and David,, lol,,, Breaker Breaker 19,,, any truckers out there? ,,,,
lol,,,,
Ya, I know you are baiting and playing with me now,,, It is ok boys,,, but
really, get your licenses,, the ham bands are much more interesting than the
CB bands.
But if that is your level then good for you and be the best you can be.
73
"Big John" wrote in message
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Why would I ask about batteries for my FT530 ? Duh!!!!
I know, I know, I do use it for communication with my boat from land, I do
enjoy using it for marine band use also.
Why would I ask a question about clamping my satelite dish onto my self
supporting tower? I was curioius about gnding there as it isn't actually
yet.
Why would I ask a question about my Sauna after I built it? I mean only a
Ham would design, build their own sauna.
Why would I ask a question about my furnace? I mean only a Ham would
completely install their own high efficient furnace.
Why would I have been a long time lerker in this news group?
Are you sure you are a ham? I mean if you are simply a 2m appliance operator
simply always talking about their ailments, well that is my best guess. But
you know, I don't actually believe you are a licennsed ham. Maybe a novice,
or beginner, or CBer. Ya, I think you are a CBer. Seems your style.
To the chap who said about me "He doesn't have one, he claims to be
licensed, but it's obvious he isn't. There is NO WAY this guy is licensed"
To this chap, would you care to put your money where your mouth is?
Be a man, or I bet you are one of those CBers who hangs around on Channel 19
badmouthing the truckers.
So, do you care to or not?
Nuff said., I didn't think you would, but I am willing to put up say,,,, 1g
,,,,
hmmmmm , I didn't think so,,,,,
anyway, you guys are just baiting me, you are poking sticks at me and hiding
in the comfort behind your microphone,,, typical CBer tactic. Na,,, not my
style.
What did they call you guys on the CB again,,, I forget,,, were you CB
Heros?
Jeff and David,, lol,,, Breaker Breaker 19,,, any truckers out there? ,,,,
lol,,,,
Ya, I know you are baiting and playing with me now,,, It is ok boys,,, but
really, get your licenses,, the ham bands are much more interesting than the
CB bands.
But if that is your level then good for you and be the best you can be.
73
"Big John" wrote in message
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John S
Jan 11, 2012, 7:05:57 PM1/11/12
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Tuuk
Jan 11, 2012, 10:48:26 PM1/11/12
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Hi again,
I am sorry for stirring up a hornets nest here, I didn't expect some of the
negative comments, maybe I will try answering my own question through
google,
Do rocks give off radiaton,
Certainly they do, to whoever it was who suggested I was ignorant or should
not work with batteries because I asked the question, I wanted to know the
type of radiation, level of harm, especially on my sauna rocks, well the
answer is yes.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Do_rocks_give_off_radiation
http://www.epa.gov/radiation/radionuclides/radium.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_ray_logging
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Do_rocks_give_off_radiation
http://www.furryelephant.com/content/radioactivity/background-radiation/
http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/progress/radiation.html
Second part of my own question was about my new smart meter they put on my
home. My FT530 goes off the chart when I am near it, I asked why and if the
radiation or RF from there was serious. I will answer my own question
through google.
Yes, Smart meters give off a lot of radiation and it is serious.
http://www.electricalpollution.com/smartmeters.html
http://electricsense.com/2225/smart-meter-radiation-3-things-you-must-know/
http://www.youaretheanswer.ca/radiation-sources/smartmeters/
But basically sometimes some of you give a wonderful rant on the topic, I
enjoy very much from a Hams point of view. Very logical, very interesting,
usually right on and usually intelligent. And usually accurate. So I asked
the question
Why some fling the mud? Maybe you just wanna argue or rag chew or whatever,
but the Hams I always knew were most eager to help, most eager to share
their knowledge on the topic, and I still know a lot who are like this.
I still would like to hear some Ham's opinion on these topics, there is no
geological newsgroup that is active, already tried, so those chunks of
beautiful granite I have on my sauna heater came from deep below the earth's
surface in Northern Ontario and my 530 does show activitiy when near them,
not near as much as the smart meter, I know it is sensitive. And I know it
is small amounts of RF, so just curious
73
" Tuuk" <abr...@cadabraaaa.ca> wrote in message
news:4yhOq.48280$2e7....@newsfe18.iad...
I am sorry for stirring up a hornets nest here, I didn't expect some of the
negative comments, maybe I will try answering my own question through
google,
Do rocks give off radiaton,
Certainly they do, to whoever it was who suggested I was ignorant or should
not work with batteries because I asked the question, I wanted to know the
type of radiation, level of harm, especially on my sauna rocks, well the
answer is yes.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Do_rocks_give_off_radiation
http://www.epa.gov/radiation/radionuclides/radium.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_ray_logging
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Do_rocks_give_off_radiation
http://www.furryelephant.com/content/radioactivity/background-radiation/
http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/progress/radiation.html
Second part of my own question was about my new smart meter they put on my
home. My FT530 goes off the chart when I am near it, I asked why and if the
radiation or RF from there was serious. I will answer my own question
through google.
Yes, Smart meters give off a lot of radiation and it is serious.
http://www.electricalpollution.com/smartmeters.html
http://electricsense.com/2225/smart-meter-radiation-3-things-you-must-know/
http://www.youaretheanswer.ca/radiation-sources/smartmeters/
But basically sometimes some of you give a wonderful rant on the topic, I
enjoy very much from a Hams point of view. Very logical, very interesting,
usually right on and usually intelligent. And usually accurate. So I asked
the question
Why some fling the mud? Maybe you just wanna argue or rag chew or whatever,
but the Hams I always knew were most eager to help, most eager to share
their knowledge on the topic, and I still know a lot who are like this.
I still would like to hear some Ham's opinion on these topics, there is no
geological newsgroup that is active, already tried, so those chunks of
beautiful granite I have on my sauna heater came from deep below the earth's
surface in Northern Ontario and my 530 does show activitiy when near them,
not near as much as the smart meter, I know it is sensitive. And I know it
is small amounts of RF, so just curious
73
" Tuuk" <abr...@cadabraaaa.ca> wrote in message
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david
Jan 12, 2012, 6:47:54 AM1/12/12
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:55:41 -0500, Tuuk rearranged some electrons to
say:
> David
>
> Are you a licenced Ham Radio operator?
In fact I took all three tests in the same day, and didn't miss any
questions on the extra exam.
>
> I asked a question, means I wanted to learn somethings, and this group
> has a lot of knowledge in it and is a wonderful resource. I guess my
> next question is how to block out the trolls, the wanna bees.
>
> I reiterate my statement, I hope you are not a teacher, very poor
> teaching skills. I can almost predict with great certainty that you are
> not a teacher. None of your advice or comments were constructive, or
> informatonal or helpful. None.
And you have very poor listening and language skills.
> I wouldn't even want to work beside you.
I can assure you that will never happen.
I would never hire someone like you.
>
> However, without knowing you I can estimate you have more knowledge
> about electrons, protons, rayons and electronic circuitry than I do.
That is a correct estimation.
> I will give you that David, however I can bet you dollar to donut that
> my list of credentials is far longer than yours,
Sure, I'll take that bet. Let's see the list.
>
> I haven't paid anyone to teach me about RF
That's obvious.
> Are you the ham who complained about me fixing my own furnace not long
> ago?
I guess you'll have to learn how to use Google to find the answer to that
question.
> Are you the same chap who said to me that rocks don't emit radiaton?
You need to go back and read my post. That isn't what I said at all.
Someone who has this much difficulty with reading comprehension shouldn't
be posting on Usenet.
> trying to make me look even dumber
You don't need my help with that, you're doing a fine job.
say:
> David
>
> Are you a licenced Ham Radio operator?
questions on the extra exam.
>
> I asked a question, means I wanted to learn somethings, and this group
> has a lot of knowledge in it and is a wonderful resource. I guess my
> next question is how to block out the trolls, the wanna bees.
>
> I reiterate my statement, I hope you are not a teacher, very poor
> teaching skills. I can almost predict with great certainty that you are
> not a teacher. None of your advice or comments were constructive, or
> informatonal or helpful. None.
> I wouldn't even want to work beside you.
I would never hire someone like you.
>
> However, without knowing you I can estimate you have more knowledge
> about electrons, protons, rayons and electronic circuitry than I do.
> I will give you that David, however I can bet you dollar to donut that
> my list of credentials is far longer than yours,
>
> I haven't paid anyone to teach me about RF
> Are you the ham who complained about me fixing my own furnace not long
> ago?
question.
> Are you the same chap who said to me that rocks don't emit radiaton?
Someone who has this much difficulty with reading comprehension shouldn't
be posting on Usenet.
> trying to make me look even dumber
tom
Jan 12, 2012, 7:23:53 PM1/12/12
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On 1/11/2012 8:55 AM, Tuuk wrote:
> David
<snip>
> Are you the same chap who said to me that rocks don't emit radiaton?
> Well in fact they do, they do so much to a degree that it is a well
> known fact, while I am not sure if it is gamma, alpha, etc etc or what,
> but I know they do. Because you said " Anyone who thinks he's picking up
> radiation from rocks on his HT
>> probably shouldn't be messing around with batteries, it might be a bit
>> over your head.""
>
> That is what you said David, and you were wrong, because all rocks
> coming out of the ground do emit certain forms of radiation, I recommend
> you google that. There you go David, you are not as smart as you set
> yourself out to be.
As all EME operators know, ok not most of the new digital only types,
dirt and rocks emit PLENTY of RF. So much that EME array design takes
it into account. On 432 and up it is a major problem.
No, an HT won't notice, but a barely halfway decent noise figure
receiver on 432 will.
tom
K0TAR
> David
<snip>
> Are you the same chap who said to me that rocks don't emit radiaton?
> Well in fact they do, they do so much to a degree that it is a well
> known fact, while I am not sure if it is gamma, alpha, etc etc or what,
> but I know they do. Because you said " Anyone who thinks he's picking up
> radiation from rocks on his HT
>> probably shouldn't be messing around with batteries, it might be a bit
>> over your head.""
>
> That is what you said David, and you were wrong, because all rocks
> coming out of the ground do emit certain forms of radiation, I recommend
> you google that. There you go David, you are not as smart as you set
> yourself out to be.
dirt and rocks emit PLENTY of RF. So much that EME array design takes
it into account. On 432 and up it is a major problem.
No, an HT won't notice, but a barely halfway decent noise figure
receiver on 432 will.
tom
K0TAR
tom
Jan 12, 2012, 7:34:34 PM1/12/12
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been missing from here for a while.
Both of whom always managed to prove that they really should stay on
their meds.
Don't leave us Tukster, we've needed some laughs for a while.
tom
K0TAR
John S
Jan 12, 2012, 9:11:57 PM1/12/12
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<snicker>
Tuuk
Jan 23, 2012, 8:14:16 AM1/23/12
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I wonder if these people need my Yaesu HT to solve the problem???
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1119366--fiorito-what-happens-when-the-light-goes-on-nothing?bn=1
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1119366--fiorito-what-happens-when-the-light-goes-on-nothing?bn=1
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