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NE7X

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Jun 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/11/98
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Does anyone have suggestions on how to stop birds from sitting on my
antennas? I'm having a real problem with bird dropping on my patio.

I have tired the plastic Owl, however the birds still site on the
antennas. I tried cats, however my cat sleeps too much. I tried
wind chimes, however here in Arizona we have lots of calm days.

Suggestion are welcome!
NE7X...

Dave Smith

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Jun 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/11/98
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On Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:13:47 -0700, NE7X <NE...@amsat.org> wrote:

>I have tired the plastic Owl, however the birds still site on the
>antennas. I tried cats, however my cat sleeps too much. I tried
>wind chimes, however here in Arizona we have lots of calm days.

Use a pellet gun, or 12 gauge.


Christopher Cox

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Jun 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/11/98
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> >I have tired the plastic Owl, however the birds still site on the
> >antennas. I tried cats, however my cat sleeps too much. I tried
> >wind chimes, however here in Arizona we have lots of calm days.
>
> Use a pellet gun, or 12 gauge.
>


Nah, just buy a big Amp! Microwave Roasted buzzard, my favorite..Um Umm
good!


Jan Allbright

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Best way I've seen was done by my next door neighbor. He had a big Yagi
that would start to show an increasing SWR as birds would land on the
elements. He tried everything and the birds just ignored him. His
solution was to mount a washing machine solenoid to his mast. Then
whenever his SWR would start to creep up he'd activate the solenoid -
which would strike the mast - which would go "BOONG" - and the birds
would fly off....

NE7X wrote:

> Does anyone have suggestions on how to stop birds from sitting on my
> antennas? I'm having a real problem with bird dropping on my patio.
>

> I have tired the plastic Owl, however the birds still site on the
> antennas. I tried cats, however my cat sleeps too much. I tried
> wind chimes, however here in Arizona we have lots of calm days.
>

> Suggestion are welcome!
> NE7X...


WA8ULX

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Jun 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/11/98
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In article <358002...@amsat.org>, NE7X <NE...@amsat.org> writes:

>Does anyone have suggestions on how to stop birds from sitting on my
>antennas? I'm having a real problem with bird dropping on my patio.
>
>I have tired the plastic Owl, however the birds still site on the
>antennas. I tried cats, however my cat sleeps too much. I tried
>wind chimes, however here in Arizona we have lots of calm days.
>
>Suggestion are welcome!
>NE7X...

Try a Gun it usually stops the problem

Ian White, G3SEK

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Jun 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/11/98
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Christopher Cox wrote:
>> >I have tired the plastic Owl, however the birds still site on the
>> >antennas. I tried cats, however my cat sleeps too much. I tried
>> >wind chimes, however here in Arizona we have lots of calm days.
>>
>> Use a pellet gun, or 12 gauge.
>>
>
>
>Nah, just buy a big Amp! Microwave Roasted buzzard, my favorite..Um Umm
>good!

Doesn't work. I tried roasting a pheasant using a kW on 432MHz and it
took no notice.

The azimuth/elevation rotators didn't work either - it rode the antenna
like a bucking bronco.

I now have full polarization rotation, and when the boom twists right
over, it has to get off.

73 from Ian G3SEK Editor, 'The VHF/UHF DX Book'
'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.demon.co.uk/g3sek

Omnor Prodlumble

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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You will need the Cowlchee. It is a flying cat with an owl face and chimes
around its neck. It lives on coffee so it almost never sleeps. The only
drawback is that it must be trained to leave its 3.7 lb droppings on the
neighbors patio. They are $129.95 + $72.15 shipping and handling from
Impromptu Corp. in Kenduva, WI.

NE7X <NE...@amsat.org> wrote in article <358002...@amsat.org>...


> Does anyone have suggestions on how to stop birds from sitting on my
> antennas? I'm having a real problem with bird dropping on my patio.
>

> I have tired the plastic Owl, however the birds still site on the
> antennas. I tried cats, however my cat sleeps too much. I tried
> wind chimes, however here in Arizona we have lots of calm days.
>

> Suggestion are welcome!
> NE7X...
>

Ron Schwartz

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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NE7X wrote:
>
> Does anyone have suggestions on how to stop birds from sitting on my
> antennas? I'm having a real problem with bird dropping on my patio.
>
> I have tired the plastic Owl, however the birds still site on the
> antennas. I tried cats, however my cat sleeps too much. I tried
> wind chimes, however here in Arizona we have lots of calm days.
>
> Suggestion are welcome!
> NE7X...

I know lots of people who've tried owls (I've sure installed enough of
them!) but it seems the birds figure out it's fake pretty quick.
Quickly snapping the brake solenoid (Hy-gain rotators) works very well.
For a few minutes anyway. Unfortunately I too wish I knew a simple,
effective method that works all the time.

VE3VN

RCrusoe

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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In article <358002...@amsat.org>, NE7X <NE...@amsat.org> writes:

>
>Does anyone have suggestions on how to stop birds from sitting on my
>antennas? I'm having a real problem with bird dropping on my patio.
>
>I have tired the plastic Owl, however the birds still site on the
>antennas. I tried cats, however my cat sleeps too much. I tried
>wind chimes, however here in Arizona we have lots of calm days.
>
>Suggestion are welcome!
>NE7X...

Try a couple of kites... one a windsock type, actually not a true kite, and the
other a more conventional kite and both flying from the mast. Shooting them
would be very satisfying, but new birds not yet shot at will still land on your
antlers requiring repeat applications. Also, even a pellet gun can punch holed
in thin aluminum tubing. If your mast is short enough, try one of those Super
Soaker water guns. They are supposed to have about a 50 foot range.

Maybe if your neghbor had a better perch er.... antenna, they would all go over
there.


73 DE AB5VH (Robinson) in San Benito Texas
A nice little town in the Beautiful Rio Grande Valley
By the Border, By the Sea

New Ham? Curious about Amateur Radio? Question about radio?
You are cordially invited to visit my website:
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for programs, diagrams, pictures, and facts relating to radio

If you can't run with the BIG dawgs, stay on the porch...
AND QUIT YER DAMN BARKING!

dit diddy dit dit


J. Young

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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Do a search on the Internet under the category of "bird control". There
are several companies that make several products, some of which are all
plastic and may be RF transparent. I've just done a similar search to keep
the little winged buggers off of outdoor sculpture! Good luck and best
73s, John, K7JY.

......................

John T. Young
Professor of Sculpture and Public Art
Assoc. Chair, Visual Arts Division
School of Art 353440
University of Washington
Seattle, Washington 98195
U.S.A.
Tel.# 206 543-0997
FAX 206 525-3380

Christopher Cox

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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> >
> >Nah, just buy a big Amp! Microwave Roasted buzzard, my favorite..Um Umm
> >good!
>
> Doesn't work. I tried roasting a pheasant using a kW on 432MHz and it
> took no notice.
>

Rats!

Oh well, back to the BBQ!........:-)


Christopher Cox
KC8FRJ Amateur Amateur


N7ZX

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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>Does anyone have suggestions on how to stop birds from sitting on my
>antennas?

Did you try the 12 gauge method?
N7ZX
Brett
http://users.aol.com/n7zx

N7ZX

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>> I have tired the plastic Owl, however the birds still site on the
>> antennas. I

Dynamite. It's the only way.
N7ZX
Brett
http://users.aol.com/n7zx

N7ZX

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>Does anyone have suggestions on how to stop birds from sitting on my
>antennas? I'm having a real problem with bird dropping on my patio.


Perhaps a life size cardboard cut-out of Burt Fisher placed on your patio would
do the trick.
N7ZX
Brett
http://users.aol.com/n7zx

RCrusoe

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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In article <358002...@amsat.org>, NE7X <NE...@amsat.org> writes:

>
>Does anyone have suggestions on how to stop birds from sitting on my
>antennas? I'm having a real problem with bird dropping on my patio.
>

>I have tired the plastic Owl, however the birds still site on the

>antennas. I tried cats, however my cat sleeps too much. I tried
>wind chimes, however here in Arizona we have lots of calm days.
>
>

Try squirrels.

R.Moroney

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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If the various firepower-based suggestions don't work, you could try
stringing strands of nylon fishing line along the elements (I assume
you're talking about beam antennas), about 1/2 inch above each element.
Or you could put the stuff perpendicular to the elements from front to
back, with a few inches between each strand, about 1/2 inch above the
elements.

The mechanics of actually doing this on your antennas could be a
challenge, but I've seen this sort of thing used effectively to keep
birds off of ledges, windowsills, etc.

The birds apparently don't care for the strands of nylon goosing them
when they try to land on the surface (well, geese might like it).

Good luck, Bob K9CMR
---------------------------------


NE7X wrote:
>
> Does anyone have suggestions on how to stop birds from sitting on my
> antennas? I'm having a real problem with bird dropping on my patio.
>
> I have tired the plastic Owl, however the birds still site on the
> antennas. I tried cats, however my cat sleeps too much. I tried
> wind chimes, however here in Arizona we have lots of calm days.
>

> Suggestion are welcome!
> NE7X...

Glenn Ashmore

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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> Does anyone have suggestions on how to stop birds from sitting on my
> antennas? I'm having a real problem with bird dropping on my patio.

Try gooping a bead of axle grease on everything that isn't virtical.
I hear birds hate getting their feet dirty.

Glenn


Cregger

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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>I'm having a real problem with bird dropping on my patio.


Feed them LOTS of cheese! <G>

Ed Cregger, NM2K
ecre...@mindspring.com

RCrusoe

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Jun 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/12/98
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In article <358002...@amsat.org>, NE7X <NE...@amsat.org> writes:

>
>Does anyone have suggestions on how to stop birds from sitting on my

>antennas? I'm having a real problem with bird dropping on my patio.
>
>I have tired the plastic Owl, however the birds still site on the
>antennas. I tried cats, however my cat sleeps too much. I tried
>wind chimes, however here in Arizona we have lots of calm days.
>
>

I got it! little birdie diapers.

Or a high-caffeine diet for kitty.

Richard Jensen

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Jun 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/13/98
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use a 22




Ron Schwartz <v...@magma.ca> wrote in article <3580A09D...@magma.ca>...


> NE7X wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have suggestions on how to stop birds from sitting on my
> > antennas? I'm having a real problem with bird dropping on my patio.
> >
> > I have tired the plastic Owl, however the birds still site on the
> > antennas. I tried cats, however my cat sleeps too much. I tried
> > wind chimes, however here in Arizona we have lots of calm days.
> >

T E I X E I R A

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Jun 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/13/98
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Spray water on the antenna..... when the birds arrive fire up the Henry
2KW d8->

dt

Richard P. Murnane

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Jun 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/13/98
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From an old QST...

Put lengths of garden hose over each element of the beam (if that's what
you're using). When the birds alight on the hose, they can't grip it hard
enough to get a hold on the element underneath, so gravity kicks in, they
end up upside down (not a favourable position for defecation! :-) and
presumeably they'll go elsewhere...

73 Richard VK2SKY

Gary Coffman

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Jun 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/13/98
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On Fri, 12 Jun 1998 13:27:03 -0400, "R.Moroney" <bob.m...@lmco.com> wrote:
>If the various firepower-based suggestions don't work, you could try
>stringing strands of nylon fishing line along the elements (I assume
>you're talking about beam antennas), about 1/2 inch above each element.
>Or you could put the stuff perpendicular to the elements from front to
>back, with a few inches between each strand, about 1/2 inch above the
>elements.

I replied to this same question over on the uk group. I'll repeat the reply
here. I've found that hard plastic tubing slipped over the elements works
wonderfully. When a bird tries to perch, the tubing just rotates and dumps
him off. It is hilarious to watch the frustrated bird try again and again to
stay on the element. They eventually give up and go elsewhere.

Gary
Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it |mail to ke...@bellsouth.net
534 Shannon Way | We break it |
Lawrenceville, GA | Guaranteed |

Dominic Baines

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Jun 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/13/98
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Chips dipped in Bicarbonate of Soda have one a hell of an effect on
Seagulls !

Cregger wrote:

> >I'm having a real problem with bird dropping on my patio.
>

Dominic Baines

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Take up falconry or clay pigeon shooting !

Dominic Baines

Alex Wiecek

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Jun 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/13/98
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Instead of the garden hose you could also use PVC tubing. Just put a
legth of it over each antenna element and just like Richard says,
gravity kicks in brids loose grip and down they go. Give it
a try.

73 Alex VE3GOP (Mississauga, Ontario)

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Gray Frierson Haertig

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VERY good, Gary. Nice simple solution to the problem.

Gray

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Reg Edwards

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Jun 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/14/98
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Just put a cork up the bottom end of the digestive tract.
--
Reg G4FGQ

Donald G. Finkel

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Jun 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/27/98
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NE7X <NE...@amsat.org> wrote:

>Does anyone have suggestions on how to stop birds from sitting on my
>antennas? I'm having a real problem with bird dropping on my patio.
>
>I have tired the plastic Owl, however the birds still site on the
>antennas. I tried cats, however my cat sleeps too much. I tried
>wind chimes, however here in Arizona we have lots of calm days.
>
>Suggestion are welcome!
>NE7X...

Hi NE7X,
I too have had the problem and instead of fixing my owls for
and aft to my Explorer -14 , I place a 3/8 eye bolt with a toggle
inside the head of the owl and put small plastic coated steel chain
through it to a swivel and eye stainless steel pipe hose clamp to the
ends of the beam, The birds ( pidgeon and all other breed don't come
near my antenna now. The slightest breeze makes the owls swing and
that's enough to scare the pests away. Remember the owls must swing
and two are better than one.

73, Don , WA2OQM

Edward M. Wright

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Jun 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/28/98
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On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 00:39:45 GMT, don...@pipeline.com (Donald G.
Finkel) wrote:

>NE7X <NE...@amsat.org> wrote:
>
>>Does anyone have suggestions on how to stop birds from sitting on my
>>antennas? I'm having a real problem with bird dropping on my patio.
>>
>>I have tired the plastic Owl, however the birds still site on the
>>antennas. I tried cats, however my cat sleeps too much. I tried
>>wind chimes, however here in Arizona we have lots of calm days.
>>
>>Suggestion are welcome!
>>NE7X...

NE7X de KA9AHQ/7

I have found that many critter problems can be solved with a suitable
application of energy.
May I suggest about a Kilowatt to smoke the little birdy feet.
In the Army we used orders of magnitude more RF and zapped em in the
air, but thats another story.
73
Ed

Dave Potter

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Jun 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/28/98
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Donald G. Finkel wrote:

> NE7X <NE...@amsat.org> wrote:
>
> >Does anyone have suggestions on how to stop birds from sitting on my
> >antennas? I'm having a real problem with bird dropping on my patio.

Original msg already gone from my ng server, but................. pellet
gun? After a few well placed shots, the rest of the birds might decide
to migrate elsewhere.

I've also often wondered if the laser pointers available everywhere
nowadays would have any effect on wildlife. Thought about trying them
out on the spiders crawling all around outside my rock
house........hmmmmmmm....sporting, if I do say so.

Dave Potter

Patrick Wilson

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Jun 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/28/98
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Get a big cat.

Dave Potter wrote in message <35965E6E...@gvtc.com>...

Frits Jensen

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Jun 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/29/98
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On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 00:39:45 GMT, don...@pipeline.com (Donald G.
Finkel) wrote:

>NE7X <NE...@amsat.org> wrote:
>
>>Does anyone have suggestions on how to stop birds from sitting on my
>>antennas? I'm having a real problem with bird dropping on my patio.
>>

>>I have tired the plastic Owl, however the birds still site on the
>>antennas. I tried cats, however my cat sleeps too much. I tried
>>wind chimes, however here in Arizona we have lots of calm days.
>>
>>Suggestion are welcome!
>>NE7X...

>Hi NE7X,

I like the stuff with kilowatts, pumpguns and cats, but if it does not
work try this one. Place a lot of plastic wirestrips ( 3-4 inch black)
in vertical position on elements and boom spaced 10 inch or so.

Birds can still land, but they dont like it, because they can't
take-off - theire wings interfere with the wirestrips. Will give you
some extra windload - but no more droppings!

Or even better. Grow some tomatoes or roses under your tower/beam.
Automatic guano supply :-)

best 73 de OZ2Q - Frits in Copenhagen-

Gary Coffman

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Jun 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/29/98
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On Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:17:04 GMT, Dave Potter <d...@gvtc.com> wrote:
>Original msg already gone from my ng server, but................. pellet
>gun? After a few well placed shots, the rest of the birds might decide
>to migrate elsewhere.

I've got a story about that (don't I always?). When I was a youngster on
the farm, a got a Daisy Red Ryder for Christmas. Come spring I had
gotten quite good with it. Birds were starting to perch along the ridge
of the barn roof, as they are wont to do. I thought to myself, "meat for
the pot", and went out to nail a few. When they saw me shoot, they
took off en mass, and it would take 30 minutes or so for them to return.
So I decided to hide. Sniping from hiding, I'd knock a bird off the ridge,
he'd slide down the roof to the ground. The others would *not* fly away.
They just watched, unable to understand what had happened. I pictured
them saying to each other, "What happened to poor old Charlie? Did
he have a heart attack or something?" I could get nearly the whole row
before they'd get wise.

The moral is that if the objective is to make the birds fly away,
make it obvious to even their pea brains what's happening.

>I've also often wondered if the laser pointers available everywhere
>nowadays would have any effect on wildlife. Thought about trying them
>out on the spiders crawling all around outside my rock
>house........hmmmmmmm....sporting, if I do say so.

Done that too. They'll *chase* the darn spot. They don't seem to tire
of the sport either. Cats and little kids also love to chase the spot.
Once at Dayton, we went out for ice cream on a Saturday night and
obviously picked the local motorcycle club's favorite ice cream
parlor. A large number of them rode up as we were sitting out on
the porch enjoying our cones. Since I'd just bought a laser pointer,
and since sometimes I forget about self preservation, I decided I'd
see if the Hell's Angels would chase the spot too. Darn if one of them
didn't. He rode all over that parking lot following that little red dot.

Tracy

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Jun 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/30/98
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I had a similar problem with birds that ate these berries off a local
tree, then dropped the seeds on the metal roof of the shop where I
worked. At about noon it sounded like a hailstorm.

We would go out to the tower and rap it a couple of times with a pipe,
and they would scurry away for a few hours, but would return.

I took a TV rotor and mounted it about halfway up the tower. I put a
inch and a half diameter tignt spring through a 2 foot piece of mast
and mounted it to the rotor. The spring was just long enough to
protrude past the legs of the tower, and when the rotor turned it
would bang against the legs of the tower. That and a thirty minute
timer and I never had problems again.

BTW, they ate the owl. Pecked it to 'death.' I had it swinging, I even
had a recorder up there one day sounding out owl sounds. Seems they
know a fake when they see one.

The other thing that worked pretty good was a static discharge. On
dry, windy days you could even hear the static building up in the
tower, and when it would 'pop' the birds took off. Too bad we couldn't
make it discharge on demand ...

Tracy Markham, N4LGH

On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 00:39:45 GMT, don...@pipeline.com (Donald G.
Finkel) wrote:

>NE7X <NE...@amsat.org> wrote:
>
>>Does anyone have suggestions on how to stop birds from sitting on my
>>antennas? I'm having a real problem with bird dropping on my patio.
>>
>>I have tired the plastic Owl, however the birds still site on the
>>antennas. I tried cats, however my cat sleeps too much. I tried
>>wind chimes, however here in Arizona we have lots of calm days.
>>
>>Suggestion are welcome!
>>NE7X...
>Hi NE7X,

Dave Potter

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Jul 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/3/98
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Gary -

Gary Coffman wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Jun 1998 15:17:04 GMT, Dave Potter <d...@gvtc.com> wrote:
> >Original msg already gone from my ng server, but................. pellet
> >gun? After a few well placed shots, the rest of the birds might decide
> >to migrate elsewhere.
>

> When they saw me shoot, they took off en mass, and it would take 30 minutes
> or so for them to return. So I decided to hide. Sniping from hiding, I'd
> knock a bird off the ridge, he'd slide down the roof to the ground. The

> others would *not* fly away. I could get nearly the whole row before they'd
> get wise.

That's probably right. Deductive reasoning isn't a bird's strong suit. Just
making jest before, but the dumber they are, the better the plinking, right?


> >I've also often wondered if the laser pointers available everywhere
> >nowadays would have any effect on wildlife. Thought about trying them
> >out on the spiders crawling all around outside my rock
> >house........hmmmmmmm....sporting, if I do say so.
>
> Done that too. They'll *chase* the darn spot.

Oh, well. At least that saves me the expense of buying one of those devices
to try it out...........

Regards,

Dave Potter
AC5LS


kmcleod

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Jul 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/6/98
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We install fiberglass owls on the microwave sites
we build. Works most everytime. You can get
them commerically from most of the ham radio outlets.

Ken McLeod

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