What is it? Set 466

[Rob H.]

This week's set has been posted:

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Rob

[F Murtz]

2712 Scales?

[F Murtz]

2710 Trigger guard?

[Mike Marlow]

Rob H. wrote:
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2709 Rifle sight

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[Stormin Mormon]

2707, maybe for inserting corks in wine bottles?
2708, looks a lot like a bottle jack, except for the size.
2709, maybe a block plane?
2710, decorative door handle.
2711, probably adjustable wick for an oil lamp.
2712, maybe a tweeter speaker?

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2707: some kind of press. don't know what for

2708: This is missing accessories that grab the racks on either side. Probably toe hooks for getting under lower things, maybe body hooks for doing body work, possibly locks so that it can be used as a stand (locks ram in position to prevent bleeding down), etc. I have seen similar setups for these purposes, but not this exact one before.

'09: pencil or pen pointer? Looks like the disk used to be some type of blade
'10: no clue
'11: some kind of burner
'12: no idea.

[Robert]

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> Rob

2707 Press for table leg caps or inserts

2708 bottle jack

2709 Plane

2710 Trigger guard

2711 old chimney flue

2712 o-ring sitting on a box



Robert

[Edward Erbeck]

2709 Pencil Sharpener

Crazy Ed

[Bill]

#2710, A handle on a sword?

Bill

[Nick]

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2709

Some sort of sharpener. Possibly for artists charcoal/pencil/quill etc.
The wheel looks much like that used in can openers, before the days of
ring-pulls.

[anorton]

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I am going to guess 2712 is a Vietnamese crystal radio that is held up to
the ear.

[anorton]

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I see now it was actually a US made radio dropped on Vietnam during the war
http://www.psywarrior.com/GiftsFromAbove.html

Probably not crystal as I first supposed since one of the labels on the
switch means "shutdown" (google does not translate the other label)

[Gunner]

Thanks! Absolutely fascinating site. Some of which I knew about..but
much..much I wasnt aware of.

Gunner

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[Rob H.]

> 2708, looks a lot like a bottle jack, except for the size.

It's definitely a jack but I don't think it's a bottle jack.

[Rob H.]

>2708: This is missing accessories that grab the racks on either side.
>Probably toe hooks for getting under >lower things, maybe body hooks for
>doing body work, possibly locks so that it can be used as a stand
>(locks ram in position to prevent bleeding down), etc. I have seen similar
>setups for these purposes, but >not this exact one before.

Yes, it's missing the parts that fit under a car bumper.

'09: pencil or pen pointer? Looks like the disk used to be some type of
blade

Pencil sharpener is correct.

[Rob H.]

>> I am going to guess 2712 is a Vietnamese crystal radio that is held up to
>> the ear.
>
> I see now it was actually a US made radio dropped on Vietnam during the
> war
> http://www.psywarrior.com/GiftsFromAbove.html
>
> Probably not crystal as I first supposed since one of the labels on the
> switch means "shutdown" (google does not translate the other label)

Thanks, that's a good link, I'll use it when I post my answer.

[Lloyd E. Sponenburgh]

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> It's definitely a jack but I don't think it's a bottle jack.

Rob, it's most certainly a bottle jack. It's a "long ram" bottle jack.
Common as hens' eggs (not teeth).

However, that doesn't disclose the purpose of the rachet-like attachment
at the top -- which I suppose is for load locking, so it won't sag once
the height has been established. I think there may be a part missing.

LLoyd

[Stormin Mormon]

Must be for a very large bottle?

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[dpb]

On 11/8/2012 2:50 PM, Rob H. wrote:
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>
>> 2708, looks a lot like a bottle jack, except for the size.
>
>
> It's definitely a jack but I don't think it's a bottle jack.

I agree w/ Lloyd, Rob--it's a bt

[dpb]

On 11/8/2012 2:50 PM, Rob H. wrote:
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>

>> 2708, looks a lot like a bottle jack, except for the size.
>
>
> It's definitely a jack but I don't think it's a bottle jack.

It is a hydraulic jack of the long-ram type. "Bottle jack" to my
knowledge is at least typically applied to those of roughly the bottle
size but the principle is the same for this one.

I agree w/ Lloyd the ratchet is part of a locking mechanism the other
portion of which isn't shown. I would guess the original purpose was as
a farm equipment or similar application for the high lift...think of the
ubiquitous mechanical ones of roughly same size for the purpose...

If it was supplied w/ some specific piece of equipment, that's long
since gone unless there's a vendor mark on it somewhere. The green
looks like _could_ be old Oliver green.

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[Rob H.]

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
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Ok, I'll take your word for it, it didn't look like the bottle jacks that I
saw when I searched the term. Thanks

[Rob H.]

> 2711 old chimney flue


I don't know what this one is but I forgot to include this description from
the owner:
"Its double walled, brass I think. The knob has No 893 stamped into it. It
has an annular ring with small holes in the ID of the thru bore. It was was
found in an old dumpsite from the gold rush era, in El Dorado County, Ca."

[Lloyd E. Sponenburgh]

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That makes it the burner of a kerosene or gasoline wick-style stove.

The wick does not make it out the top, it's just at the mere bottom of
the double-walled "chimney". The gasses from vaporizing the fuel emit
from the holes, and convection up through the large internal bore adds
oxygen. The flames work right at the holes, and keep the whole affair
hot enough to keep vaporizing fuel from the top of the wick.

I used them in Viet Nam.

LLoyd

[Lloyd E. Sponenburgh]

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> The flames work right at the holes, and keep the whole affair
> hot enough to keep vaporizing fuel from the top of the wick.
>

I should have added that some work "backwards". The flames are on the
inside between the two walls, air coming in from the big middle bore, and
heat coming out the gap between the tubes. Some emit flame from both
sides of the tubes.

It was (maybe still is) a common cookstove for remote kitchens and
military field kitchens. I've seen vids of some oriental folks still
using them.

LLoyd

[Kerry Montgomery]

"dpb" <no...@non.net> wrote in message news:k7h9bt$e5i$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

The toothed sections could also be part of an extender, A number of long ram
botle jacks are available with threaded extenders.
Kerry

[DoN. Nichols]

On 2012-11-08, Rob H. <rhv...@gmailnospam.com> wrote:
> This week's set has been posted:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always -- because this
thread is cross-posted.

2707) Looking at the clamps at the bottom, I would say that it is
designed to grip a post -- square or round, depending on the
clamp faces, and then to cut away material surrounding the
center, producing a peg on the end. The diameter of the peg is
defined by the hole and the position of the plane blade shown in
"Fig 3" of the drawing.

This example in the photos is missing the clamp frame which
slides over the bottom.

Probably for making cross-bars for chairs and the like.

I'm not quite sure what the clamp at the top is for. Perhaps
for holding an alternate cutter -- or perhaps for holding a
container of glue if it is to applied immediately to the peg.

2708) An unusually tall hydraulic jack, with what looks like a safety
sleeve (the half-cylinder with the teeth) to hold it at a given
height even if the hydraulics leak.

Given the height, I suspect that it was for something like
supporting a house while posts are replaced. Is that height as
photographed, collapsed, or fully extended?

I would like to see a side photograph of the details of how the
teeth lock onto the housing. I expect that to be near the
bottom of the teeth as photographed.

Anyway -- to deal with the "how it worked" question mentioned,
like all common hydraulic jacks, it is elevated by a pipe stuck
into the socket on the bottom, and it is lowered by slipping the
pipe over the 'T' just below and to the left of the jack rod
socket. (The rod typically has a pair of slots 180 degrees
apart to slip over the crossbar of the 'T' and to allow turning
it.

Hmm ... maybe for working on the trailer of a tractor-trailer
rig? Either for changing tires at the back, or for lifting it
clear of the "fifth wheel" plate if things are giving problems?

2709) An unusually small wood plane -- likely for cutting grooves in
the wood.

Since it appears to be made from bent up sheet metal, I suspect
that it is not very precise, and may be for something like
shaving splinters off the corners of boards.

2710) Trigger guard for a firearm -- likely something like a
muzzle-loading flintlock or cap and ball firearm. I guess that
it could even be for something like a crossbow.

It is interesting how this attaches to the stock. Is there
another projection near the front (right) end?

2711) I *think* that this may be a wick holder and adjuster for
something like a kerosene (also called "coal oil") fired water
heater for a tank beside the bathtub. (I grew up with one of
these in South Texas. A very slow way to get hot water for a
bath.)

Anyway -- the wick was a cylinder, and the height is adjusted
by the knob to the right. The fitting to the lower left is
likely connected by a hose to the tank of kerosene.

Just how big is this device, anyway? The one which I remember
would have been about three to four inches in diameter.

2712) Based on the color, it is some kind of military device (real
or fake).

I don't recognize the language in the molded markings. Various
punctuation marks, some of which are familiar and some not.

Perhaps something to be left powered by batteries to broadcast
signs of someone going past?

Perhaps something intended to record or broadcast the angle of
tilt around an axis going through the center of the round ridge?

More views would help (maybe).

Now to post and then see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols" > On 2012-11-08,

Rob H. <> wrote:
>> This week's set has been posted:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
{ Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as
always -- because this
thread is cross-posted.}

You may as well stop stating this, Don, it makes
no
sense at all because you have cross-posted it too!
;>)}
It makes no difference in what group you read it,
no
one can tell which group you posted it from....
and
no one really cares.

[Steve W.]

Rob H. wrote:
>
>> 2708, looks a lot like a bottle jack, except for the size.
>
>
> It's definitely a jack but I don't think it's a bottle jack.
>

It's an older bumper jack. There should be a saddle that locks into the
grooves on the jack and fits into the notch on the older steel bumpers.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Automobile-Truck-Hydraulic-Bumper-Jack-/140734986009?nma=true&si=zn2sSWCHq5oSrp4yJASsbx5o4OU%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557


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[Rob H.]

> 2710 Trigger guard?


Trigger guard is correct, I shot the photo at a museum but they didn't say
what kind of gun if was from. They have all been correctly identified this
week, the answers have been posted here:


http://55tools.blogspot.com/2012/11/set-466.html#answers

[Rob H.]

> 2708) An unusually tall hydraulic jack, with what looks like a safety
> sleeve (the half-cylinder with the teeth) to hold it at a given
> height even if the hydraulics leak.
>
> Given the height, I suspect that it was for something like
> supporting a house while posts are replaced. Is that height as
> photographed, collapsed, or fully extended?

I'm not sure, just the one photo was sent.

> I would like to see a side photograph of the details of how the
> teeth lock onto the housing. I expect that to be near the
> bottom of the teeth as photographed.

The photos on the links show the missing part, but I don't think they show
how the teeth lock, if it was mine I'd take a some photos for you.

> 2710) Trigger guard for a firearm -- likely something like a
> muzzle-loading flintlock or cap and ball firearm. I guess that
> it could even be for something like a crossbow.
>
> It is interesting how this attaches to the stock. Is there
> another projection near the front (right) end?

Not that I know of, I shot the photo a while ago and don't remember seeing a
second one.

>
> 2711) I *think* that this may be a wick holder and adjuster for
> something like a kerosene (also called "coal oil") fired water
> heater for a tank beside the bathtub. (I grew up with one of
> these in South Texas. A very slow way to get hot water for a
> bath.)
>
> Anyway -- the wick was a cylinder, and the height is adjusted
> by the knob to the right. The fitting to the lower left is
> likely connected by a hose to the tank of kerosene.
>
> Just how big is this device, anyway? The one which I remember
> would have been about three to four inches in diameter.

I just found out the size, as I also posted on the answer page, it's 3-3/8"

diameter.



> 2712) Based on the color, it is some kind of military device (real
> or fake).
>
> I don't recognize the language in the molded markings. Various
> punctuation marks, some of which are familiar and some not.
>
> Perhaps something to be left powered by batteries to broadcast
> signs of someone going past?
>
> Perhaps something intended to record or broadcast the angle of
> tilt around an axis going through the center of the round ridge?
>
> More views would help (maybe).

It was behind glass at a museum so only one view was available.


Rob

[Stormin Mormon]

Posting from my PC in the living room, as always.

Real brain challenges, as usual. The adjustable round wick,
a stove instead of a lamp. I was close on a couple of
them.Thanks for the effort you put forth.

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