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Rob H.

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May 2, 2013, 4:06:33 AM5/2/13
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I have answers for just the first and third ones this week and need some help
with
the rest.

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob

David B

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May 2, 2013, 4:26:05 AM5/2/13
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2860 - Would stating the obvious be incorrect then, a child's canoe/coracle
paddle?

David B

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May 2, 2013, 4:29:52 AM5/2/13
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2860 - Would stating the obvious be incorrect then, a child's canoe/coracle
paddle?
In fact it's more likely to be a wort (or something similar) stirrer.

D

Rob H.

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May 2, 2013, 4:54:54 AM5/2/13
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In article <klt7ol$bbc$1...@dont-email.me>, David B says...
>
>2860 - Would stating the obvious be incorrect then, a child's canoe/coracle
>paddle?
>


The owner referred to it as a chopper and stated in his email that "the blade is
sharp" and that it weighs about four pounds. So I was thinking that most of it
was
made of metal.

Alexander Thesoso

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May 2, 2013, 6:51:52 AM5/2/13
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2857 Hmmm... I clearly don't know what this is, but... The precision
available from the globe, settings and indications are clearly
inadequate for weapons targeting or navigation. I'll guess that this is
a teaching-aid.

NamPhong

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May 2, 2013, 8:13:24 AM5/2/13
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2859 - Oil can opener. Downward push of the handle would provide pour
hole and air hole. Definitely pre spout days

Ted Schuerzinger

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May 2, 2013, 8:14:02 AM5/2/13
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I was a Russian major in college so I've got some idea on the first one.
:-) The three odomoter-like gauges, from top to bottom, read:

ПЕРИОД: period
ВИТКИ (vitki): number of orbits
УГОЛ ПОСАДКИ (ugol posadki): angle of landing

The dial on the bottom right reads "shadow" and presumably "light". The
gauge on the left is Ш for ШИРОТА (shirota), or latitude, and the one at
the top would be for longitude, which, in Russian, conveniently stats
with the Д next to the gauge: ДОЛГОТА (dolgota).

The device is, I think, used for either following satellites or
targeting nuclear missiles (although missiles don't orbit multiple
times, or once at all).

I can't figure out the other five, sorry.

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Stormin Mormon

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May 2, 2013, 9:36:11 AM5/2/13
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2857, Russian pilot's guidance system?
2858, no clue. Maybe stores a written message for the next shift?
2859, mechanical press of some kind (to mention the obvious).
2860, some kind of canoe paddle. Or, maybe blocks a sluice channel for some kind of drainage system.
2861, from the rust and paint, probably from some kind of construction equipment.
2862, this is a nutty SWAG, but maybe it's a fisherman's earth worm shocker. The round thing inside is a wet cell.

Thanks for the tile cutter update. Interesting to learn more.
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Dr Nick

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May 2, 2013, 9:54:36 AM5/2/13
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Rob H. <Rob_m...@newsguy.com> writes:

> I have answers for just the first and third ones this week and need some help
> with
> the rest.
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.

2862 - some sort of electrotherapy device?

See the photos here for something not completely dissimilar.

Leon

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May 2, 2013, 10:06:30 AM5/2/13
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On 5/2/2013 3:06 AM, Rob H. wrote:
A Globe washing machine!

Ed Huntress

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May 2, 2013, 10:10:18 AM5/2/13
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On Thu, 02 May 2013 09:06:30 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
LOL! Two points for the most creative guess of the week. <g>

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phorbin

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May 2, 2013, 11:17:56 AM5/2/13
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In article <klt6q...@drn.newsguy.com>, Rob_m...@newsguy.com says...
2857 Sure looks like a movie prop, to send the position of a fictional
Russian ship back to mother Russia.---or a death ray targeting device
(shades of Captain Video).

Dr Nick

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'57: russian- soviet era. Is it a navigation planner/computer for finding headings based on great circle path? Possibly for a bomber or for targeting an ICBM?

'58: some type of bore sighing device?

'59: can top punch for oil cans

'60: paddle for a canoe?

'61: spring compressor

'62: I don't know, but i am NOT holding those rods while you turn the knob.....


Rob H.

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May 2, 2013, 3:41:43 PM5/2/13
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>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>2859 - Oil can opener. Downward push of the handle would provide pour
>hole and air hole. Definitely pre spout days


Can opener is correct, though it was marked beer can opener for use at a bar. I
couldn't find another like it on the web, nor could I find a similar oil can
opener.

Rob H.

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May 2, 2013, 3:44:55 PM5/2/13
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>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

>
>I was a Russian major in college so I've got some idea on the first one.
>:-) The three odomoter-like gauges, from top to bottom, read:
>
>������: period
>��º� (vitki): number of orbits
>ó�� ������� (ugol posadki): angle of landing
>
>The dial on the bottom right reads "shadow" and presumably "light". The
>gauge on the left is � for ȸ��° (shirota), or latitude, and the one at
>the top would be for longitude, which, in Russian, conveniently stats
>with the � next to the gauge: �����° (dolgota).
>
>The device is, I think, used for either following satellites or
>targeting nuclear missiles (although missiles don't orbit multiple
>times, or once at all).
>
>I can't figure out the other five, sorry.


Thanks for the translations, I'll post them with my answer for it.

Rob H.

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May 2, 2013, 3:47:21 PM5/2/13
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In article <878v3xq...@temporary-address.org.uk>, Dr Nick says...
I agree that it's probably some kind of quack medical device though I haven't
been
able to prove it.

Rob H.

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May 2, 2013, 3:48:17 PM5/2/13
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In article <QLidnRbUfrtl7x_M...@giganews.com>, Leon says...
Good one Leon!

Artemus

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2861 Is a mount for temporarily attaching a hitch ball to a bumper
back when vehicles had real bumpers.
Art


Rob H.

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May 2, 2013, 4:14:49 PM5/2/13
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>
>2861 Is a mount for temporarily attaching a hitch ball to a bumper
>back when vehicles had real bumpers.
>Art


Thanks! Looks like you are correct, I just found the patent for it:

http://www.google.com/patents/US2814506

DoN. Nichols

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May 2, 2013, 4:48:50 PM5/2/13
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Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

Yes, Opera now works on the "Larger" links.

2857) Quite an interesting item.

First glance says military, based on the color, but
not quite right for US Army equipment.

Closer looks say that it is from Russia. (The lettering on the
controls, and on the globe look Cyrrilic to me.

Given the fact that there is a complete globe in it, and the
fact that it has scales marked in degrees, and at least one dial
in degrees, minutes and seconds, I suspect that it is a target
entry console for an ICBM.

In particular, I find the thick red lines at the borders between
the US and the neighboring countries to be of interest. I
suspect that the globe is in there to serve as a double-check
that the latitude and longitude were entered correctly. You
dial in the setting, then look at the map to make sure that it
looks like where you wanted to hit.

I suspect that the knob to the bottom right of the globe is the
arming switch, with a safety lock around it.

And -- it looks like it is designed to mount in a console.

I would be interrested in seeing a translation of the control
markings once the answers are all in.

2858) Hmm ... I suspect that the larger plug should also have an
O-ring in the groove between where the threads end and the
knurled knob starts.

At a guess, this was for sampling the atmosphere, for detecting
poisonous or explosive gasses which are common in coal mines.

It may hold some absorbent material, and have a pump pulling air
into it for some hours or days.

2859) My first guess was that it was to puncture cans like oil cans or
beverage cans. (No dimensions to select between the twoP.

However, the points are not sharp enough. So -- they may be to
open valves in a cylindrical object, or to hold a screw-in lid
against rotating by the pins in (perhaps blind) holes, while the
cylindrical object itself is rotated below to screw in or
unscrew a lid.

2860) A paddle for use on only one side of a canoe (one hand grips
the T-bar at the top, and the other hand grips part-way down the
handle. but it would be difficult to swap sides quickly.

Or -- it could be for stirring something being mixed, a large
amount of stew, or a paint, or fertilizer, or whatever.

2861) Looks like a tool for crimping either large electrical
terminals, or swaged fittings on the end of steel cables.

It has sockets for three different sizes -- and the chained
semi-circles could be used to adapt to two other sizes.

However -- one feature does not look right for that purpose.
The larger notches are at a greater distance from the threaded
bar which applies the force. Unless it is way undersized for the
task.

2862) The black cylindrical object is a battery -- to be filled with
acid just prior to use.

Are the wired rods in the third photo a part of the battery or
grounding rods?

At a guess, it is a portable (likely military) telegraph, hooked
to the wires, and to a headphone, while the spring-loaded button
is the sending key.

I would be interested to know what lives in the drawer.

And the three-fingered thing is another puzzle.

Time to post this, and then see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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Steve W.

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May 2, 2013, 5:05:15 PM5/2/13
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Had one like it years ago. That and a clamp on tow bar meant you could
bring 2 auction cars back to the shop at a time....

These day's you take a hauler or hope the run.


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May 3, 2013, 1:57:19 PM5/3/13
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Hi Rob,

The first one is part of a Russian (Soviet) spacecraft control panel. Specifically, these were used on the Vostock spacecraft. It allowed the cosmonauts to visually track their orbital trajectories over the Earth. It's a bit more complicated than that, but in a nutshell...
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May 3, 2013, 3:52:14 PM5/3/13
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Almost forgot, here's a link showing the difference between the Vostok and Mercury controls. (Yeah, I realize I spelled Vostok wrong on my first post)

Cheers!
Cmdrpiffle

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May 3, 2013, 3:52:33 PM5/3/13
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Rob H.

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May 3, 2013, 5:28:53 PM5/3/13
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> Are the wired rods in the third photo a part of the battery or
> grounding rods?
>
> At a guess, it is a portable (likely military) telegraph, hooked
> to the wires, and to a headphone, while the spring-loaded button
> is the sending key.
>
> I would be interested to know what lives in the drawer.
>
> And the three-fingered thing is another puzzle.


I'll ask the owner if the two probes are hooked up to anything, the cords on
them are 48" long, and will also ask about the drawer, I'm guessing that the 3
wire tool was in it.

Still not sure about two of them but the rest of the answers have been posted:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2013/05/set-491.html#answers


Rob

j Burns

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May 3, 2013, 6:07:37 PM5/3/13
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The short handle suggests an entrenching tool. The blade looks about 3"
wide, which would be good for chopping into tough soil. The long blade
would make it good for shaping a trench or foxhole. The best technique
may have been to use another implement to throw the soil out of the hole.

Edward Erbeck

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May 3, 2013, 6:04:28 PM5/3/13
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2860 - A Cheese Curd Paddle ?

Crazy Ed

Alexander Thesoso

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May 3, 2013, 6:42:26 PM5/3/13
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2860 After a little memory exercise... This looks like a peat spade /
peat cutter / peat shovel. The keys to memory are that it is heavy and
sharp on the end.

axolotl

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May 3, 2013, 6:52:47 PM5/3/13
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I believe 2860 is a slick. Probably for shipbuilding, as the "T" handle
would let you apply more force to cut trunnels flush.


Kevin Gallimore

G. Ross

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May 3, 2013, 8:12:06 PM5/3/13
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j Burns wrote: > On 5/2/13 4:54 AM, Rob H. wrote: >> In article<klt7ol$bbc$1...@dont-email.me>, David B says... >>> 2860 - Would stating the obvious be incorrect then, a child's canoe/coracle >>> paddle? >> The owner referred to it as a chopper and stated in his email that "the blade is >> sharp" and that it weighs about four pounds. So I was thinking that most of it >> was >> made of metal. > The short handle suggests an entrenching tool. The blade looks about 3" > wide, which would be good for chopping into tough soil. The long blade > would make it good for shaping a trench or foxhole. The best technique > may have been to use another implement to throw the soil out of the hole. It seems that if it was for digging into the ground it would have had horizontal shoulders on the blade for pushing with your foot. GW Ross Although I'm not Canadian, I tend to like their bacon.

woodchucker

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May 3, 2013, 8:30:20 PM5/3/13
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I think it looks like a chisel, for cleaning up framing lumber... post
and beam type... Like a slick... A slick is used by using your weight...
This looks large, but could also be used for cleaning up lumber for a
log home... or the notches.

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woodchucker

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May 3, 2013, 9:09:04 PM5/3/13
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Just read your post. I agree.. it's a slick.

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j Burns

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May 3, 2013, 9:20:12 PM5/3/13
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I believe it is a slick as you say. I was barking up the wrong tree.

If it had been an entrenching tool, it would not have been used like a
spade. For one thing, the handle is only 14". The US Model 1880
entrenching tool is somewhat similar, but it's pointed and the handle is
only 7".

Rob H.

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May 3, 2013, 10:27:41 PM5/3/13
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>
>I believe 2860 is a slick. Probably for shipbuilding, as the "T" handle
>would let you apply more force to cut trunnels flush.
>
>
>Kevin Gallimore


I think that slick is probably correct, the Dictionary of American Hand Tools
shows it as a clapboard slick, they also list a carpenters' slick but it looks a
little different. Thanks

mbuck

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May 4, 2013, 8:34:37 AM5/4/13
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On Thursday, May 2, 2013 4:06:33 PM UTC+8, Rob H. wrote:
> I have answers for just the first and third ones this week and need some help
>
> with
>
> the rest.
>
>
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>

2860 looks like a trench shovel http://www.machinemart.co.uk/images/library/product/huge/04/040211875.jpg
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