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Rob H.

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Nov 3, 2011, 4:05:23 AM11/3/11
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Just posted this week's set:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob

Harry Vaderchi

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Nov 3, 2011, 4:44:42 AM11/3/11
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2389 novelty nutcracker
2390 is a cannon tamper
2391 is a fence tensioner!
2392 standard depth hole tester
2393 keeps the sheets off a burns victim?
2394 is obviously *now* a key ring!


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Michael Kenefick

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Nov 3, 2011, 7:20:32 AM11/3/11
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2389: broken spray painter
2390: wwi boot camp training tool, gun simulator
2391: pry bar
2392: leather working tool
2393: more book shelf organizers
2394: ship portal lock

Alexander Thesoso

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Nov 3, 2011, 6:26:52 AM11/3/11
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>> Rob
Guesses:

2389 Though the trigger-like thing doesn't look robust enough, I'll
guess that this is one of those stapler-like paper fasteners that cuts a
slit and folds a tongue of paper through the slit to fasten two sheets
of paper together.

2389 As there seems to be an iron rod that latches in a retracted and
extended position, I'll guess that there is a pointed piece in the upper
cylinder, and this is a pike, spear, or bayonet.

2394 I'll make a wild guess that this is a safety lock for the throttle
or other control of a piece of steam-age equipment.

Dave__67

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Nov 3, 2011, 9:54:05 AM11/3/11
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2389- if it looked 0.001% more like a saw handle I'd say it's a saw
handle.

Dave

Phil Kangas

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Nov 3, 2011, 10:06:31 AM11/3/11
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> On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:05:23 -0000, Rob H.
<rhv...@gmailnospam.com> wrote:
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>> Just posted this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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>>
>> Rob

2392 Tension spring installer



RicodJour

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Nov 3, 2011, 9:58:48 AM11/3/11
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2389. Hair spray applicator
2390. No idea of what the name would be, but it shoots a metal and
wood bolt. A crossbow without the cross or bow!
2391. A wheel or bearing removal tool.
2392. A compression tool, possibly for a spring.
2393. Line guide. For what I have no idea.
2394. Utility lockout device. Not sure of what particular service.

R

Stormin Mormon

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Nov 3, 2011, 10:24:05 AM11/3/11
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2389 Hebrew letter, to put over the door.
2390 totally no clue
2391 nail puller and joist tightener combination?
2392 seriously no clue
2393 seriously no clue
2394 might be part of an ignition lock assembly from a
vehicle?

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lektric dan

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Nov 3, 2011, 1:31:36 PM11/3/11
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Yeah, this looks a lot like a drum brake spring tool.

J Burns

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Nov 3, 2011, 3:10:35 PM11/3/11
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On 11/3/11 4:44 AM, Harry Vaderchi wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:05:23 -0000, Rob H. <rhv...@gmailnospam.com> wrote:
>
>> Just posted this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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2390 The spontoon, with an 18" blade on a 6' shaft, was a decisive
weapon in the Revolution. An American officer could signal in the noise
of battle and protect his men from bayonets as they reloaded. A quarter
of a century later, Lewis and Clark carried spontoons to Oregon.

Logically, spontoons should have been useful until officers had
revolvers and soldiers had breech loaders. I imagine 2390 could be a
spontoon with a retractable blade. That would make it safer, easier to
carry in woods, and less likely to show an enemy where the officers were.

Rob H.

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Nov 3, 2011, 4:01:59 PM11/3/11
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> 2389 As there seems to be an iron rod that latches in a retracted and
> extended position, I'll guess that there is a pointed piece in the upper
> cylinder, and this is a pike, spear, or bayonet.

The owner described it as a 'Confederate Civil War pike', there is a 15"
blade attached to the internal metal part. Not sure if there is a
difference between a pike and a spontoon, as someone else suggested.

Rob



Rob H.

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Nov 3, 2011, 4:15:27 PM11/3/11
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"Phil Kangas" <pka...@upalphacomm.net> wrote in message
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I agree that it looks like a spring tool, not sure exactly what kind though,
haven't been able to find one on the web just like it.


Rob H.

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Nov 3, 2011, 4:20:38 PM11/3/11
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> 2391 nail puller and joist tightener combination?


Nail puller is correct but it's for a certain kind of nail that was used for
a specific purpose.

Stormin Mormon

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Nov 3, 2011, 5:29:58 PM11/3/11
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I suppose that give me partial credit? Neat! Glad I got one.

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Dave Baker

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Nov 3, 2011, 6:28:26 PM11/3/11
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"Rob H." <rhv...@gmailnospam.com> wrote in message
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>> 2391 nail puller and joist tightener combination?
>
>
> Nail puller is correct but it's for a certain kind of nail that was used
> for a specific purpose.

Horsey shooey nail.


Rob H.

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Nov 3, 2011, 6:45:09 PM11/3/11
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"Dave Baker" <Nu...@null.com> wrote in message
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Nope, that patent calls it something other than a nail, but it looks like a
type of nail to me.

Michael Kenefick

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Nov 3, 2011, 9:12:12 PM11/3/11
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furniture tacks?

J Burns

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Nov 3, 2011, 9:23:34 PM11/3/11
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By golly, R E Lee had a plan in 1862 to include two companies of pikemen
in an infantry regiment! It never saw action.

I believe the Confederates misused the term "pike." A pike was 10 to 25
feet long to keep cavalry from getting close enough to use their lances.
Firearms made pikes obsolete because their unwieldiness made troops
too slow to attack or defend themselves against muskets.

DoN. Nichols

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Nov 3, 2011, 9:30:35 PM11/3/11
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On 2011-11-03, Rob H. <rhv...@gmailnospam.com> wrote:
> Just posted this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

2389) Not enough views to allow a reasonable guess, unless you are
someone who has seen one before -- and I am not. :-)

2390) At a guess, it is what the soldiers in a trench just below the
targets on a military firing range use to reach up and change
or patch the targets.

Being in the trench, they are safe from the bullets, and being
just in front of the targets, they can call out how good the
hits were -- and put up fresh target boards.

2391) At a guess -- a tool for disassembling wooden crates to allow
unpacking the contents. The hinged 'C' will allow the left hand
to pull up on the claw while the right hand uses the normal
leverage. With just the right dimensions, the free end of the
'C' could be put on the floor to allow using it as the stable
point for leverage.

2392) Perhaps a tool for removing primers from fired cartridges to
allow reloading them. In particular, perhaps for the Berdan
primers (more common in European military cartridges) instead of
the Boxer primers more common in US cartridges.

2393) Perhaps to drape pup tent halves over for drying?

2394) I presume that the key allows the ring to be separated from
the forked bottom. Perhaps something like a captive oarlock, if
there is enough play in the join of the two parts.

A more than usually puzzling set this week.

Now to post this and then see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.


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"Rob H." <rhv...@gmailnospam.com> wrote in message
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> Just posted this week's set:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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>
> Rob

2391...Nail puller for the double headed nails used in concrete forms. This
allows nails to be pulled with out damage to the wood forms. by having the
handle rotate it can get in close on both ends of the forms if the are at a
corner. WW


Rob H.

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Nov 4, 2011, 3:39:56 AM11/4/11
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> furniture tacks?


Nope, that's not it.



Rob H.

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Nov 4, 2011, 3:43:38 AM11/4/11
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>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> 2391...Nail puller for the double headed nails used in concrete forms.
> This allows nails to be pulled with out damage to the wood forms. by
> having the handle rotate it can get in close on both ends of the forms if
> the are at a corner. WW


Nope, the patent describes a different use it.

J Burns

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Nov 4, 2011, 3:42:44 PM11/4/11
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On 11/4/11 3:39 AM, Rob H. wrote:
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>> furniture tacks?
>
>
> Nope, that's not it.
>
>
>
It looks like Andrew Axleton's staple puller.

J Burns

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Nov 4, 2011, 3:43:51 PM11/4/11
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Un-oh, that's Andrew Axelton, 656711.

Rob H.

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Nov 4, 2011, 4:40:43 PM11/4/11
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>> It looks like Andrew Axleton's staple puller.
>
> Un-oh, that's Andrew Axelton, 656711.


Good job on finding the patent, the staple in the drawing looks the same as
a U nail to me, maybe in some regions they use the terms interchangeably.

Rob H.

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Nov 4, 2011, 4:49:39 PM11/4/11
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>2389- if it looked 0.001% more like a saw handle I'd say it's a saw
>handle.

>Dave


Saw handle is a good guess, it's different from most in that it can hold a
couple ounces of oil that can be slowly released with the trigger.

Still not sure about the wire item and we're lacking specifics for the
pliers but the rest of the answers have been posted here:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/11/set-413.html#answers


Rob

Rob H.

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Nov 4, 2011, 5:14:04 PM11/4/11
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> 2394) I presume that the key allows the ring to be separated from
> the forked bottom. Perhaps something like a captive oarlock, if
> there is enough play in the join of the two parts.


The ring is clamped in place on the steering column and the forked part
pivots to lock or unlock the steering wheel, although the patent shows it
operating differently. The construction of this one seems to have been
modified a lot since the patent drawings, I'd have thought they would have
gotten another patent with all of the changes they made.

Rob

Phil Kangas

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Nov 4, 2011, 5:18:36 PM11/4/11
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"Harry Vaderchi" <> wrote in message
> On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:05:23 -0000,
Rob H. <> wrote:
>
>> Just posted this week's set:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> 2389 novelty nutcracker
> 2390 is a cannon tamper
> 2391 is a fence tensioner!
> 2392 standard depth hole tester
> 2393 keeps the sheets off a burns victim?
> 2394 is obviously *now* a key ring!
>
>

r.e. 2391
Huh? You mean we _finally_ have a fence
_un_tensioner? ;>)}



J Burns

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Nov 4, 2011, 5:28:20 PM11/4/11
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I haven't figured out what good it does to throw the C clamp around the
post.

Bill

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Nov 4, 2011, 5:30:18 PM11/4/11
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#2393 It looks like (several of) these may link together end-to-end--for
what purpose I don't know.

Gerald Miller

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Nov 4, 2011, 9:19:38 PM11/4/11
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:28:20 -0400, J Burns <bur...@nowhere.com>
wrote:
he "C" shaped piece will keep the puller from sliding down the post
when you attempt to get the claws to go under the wire to pull the
staple. Otherwise you would have to hammer the claws into place.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

Harry Vaderchi

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Nov 5, 2011, 4:49:39 PM11/5/11
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 21:18:36 -0000, Phil Kangas <pka...@upalphacomm.net>
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Werll there's room for one!
>


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Rich Grise

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Nov 5, 2011, 7:48:23 PM11/5/11
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Phil Kangas wrote:
> "Harry Vaderchi" <> wrote in message
>> On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:05:23 -0000,
> Rob H. <> wrote:
>>
>>> Just posted this week's set:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> 2389 novelty nutcracker
>> 2390 is a cannon tamper
>> 2391 is a fence tensioner!
>> 2392 standard depth hole tester
>> 2393 keeps the sheets off a burns victim?
>> 2394 is obviously *now* a key ring!
>
> r.e. 2391
> Huh? You mean we _finally_ have a fence
> _un_tensioner? ;>)}

You mean, in an orderly fashion, right? Typically when someone wants to
untension a fence, they use a dikes. Or a bolt-cutter for chain-link. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

Ted Schuerzinger

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Nov 5, 2011, 10:41:46 PM11/5/11
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On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 17:18:36 -0400, Phil Kangas wrote:

> r.e. 2391
> Huh? You mean we _finally_ have a fence
> _un_tensioner? ;>)}

Just run your fense tensioner in reverse. ;-)

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Harry Vaderchi

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On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 02:41:46 -0000, Ted Schuerzinger <fe...@hughes.spam>
wrote:

> On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 17:18:36 -0400, Phil Kangas wrote:
>
>> r.e. 2391
>> Huh? You mean we _finally_ have a fence
>> _un_tensioner? ;>)}
>
> Just run your fense tensioner in reverse. ;-)
>

"Assembly is the reverse of unassembly."

Rich Grise

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Nov 6, 2011, 2:13:28 PM11/6/11
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Harry Vaderchi wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 02:41:46 -0000, Ted Schuerzinger <fe...@hughes.spam>
>> On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 17:18:36 -0400, Phil Kangas wrote:
>>
>>> r.e. 2391
>>> Huh? You mean we _finally_ have a fence
>>> _un_tensioner? ;>)}
>>
>> Just run your fense tensioner in reverse. ;-)
>
> "Assembly is the reverse of unassembly."
>
Yeah, tell that to that box of loose watch parts. ;-D

Cheers!
Rich
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Robert Bonomi

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Nov 6, 2011, 6:59:50 PM11/6/11
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In article <op.v4io1qxi1r0rdn@dell3100>,
Harry Vaderchi <ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 02:41:46 -0000, Ted Schuerzinger <fe...@hughes.spam>
>wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 17:18:36 -0400, Phil Kangas wrote:
>>
>>> r.e. 2391
>>> Huh? You mean we _finally_ have a fence
>>> _un_tensioner? ;>)}
>>
>> Just run your fense tensioner in reverse. ;-)
>>
>
>"Assembly is the reverse of unassembly."


And "disassembly is how you take apart datassembly".
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